Mujtahida:


This is precisely how you argue cyclically. Let me break my points me down for you:
Compared to the top nations, Spain is poor.
Compared to their own records, Spain is poor.


I made the first point before I made the second to buttress and emphasize the first point. Think logically, no just dey argue.

So stop going on and on talking about beggarly like you've hit a jackpot.

andrewbaba44:


Rest with your agenda against the Spanish team

Mujtahida:

If you read well, you'd see that my argument is not really against the Spanish team but against tiki taka.

Which has been proven null. Even your Morocco coach is taking tiki taka lessons.

TheGoodJoe:


He definitely learnt but in this game, Arteta accepted a tactical defeat and went for a strategic win. He also lacks the players to imprint his ideas. However, i feel Arteta is adulterated due to him playing too long in the EPL.

I am actually glad he left. I felt he was a poor influence on Guardiola. We became more fluid after his departure.

TheGoodJoe:


Which has been proven null? Even your Morocco coach is taking tiki taka lessons.

mostob:
Dem Luxembourg, Iceland, Ireland fit sneak in too sef.
Funny enough, we might be seeing the like of Zambia and Angola I'm world cup very soon.

jihday:
one semifinal in euro, a tournament where they won only 1 game in normal time, drew 2 games in their group, won second round 5-3 AET, won the quarters by Pk and lost semi by pk

Mujtahida:

Morocco plays tiki taka? Odiegwu.
I thought you said they play park the bus? You are just grasping at straws. Abeg let's argue like men and intelligent people.

Mujtahida:

Morocco plays tiki taka? Odiegwu.
I thought you said they play park the bus? You are just grasping at straws. Abeg let's argue like men and intelligent people.

Mujtahida:

Goodjoe see your fantastic team. Tiki taka go finish Spain oo.

elyte89:



Unfortunately for eguavoen ,he lost two most important matches,to forgive him will b very hard base on our impatience record.

Had it been Dey were just friendly games those matches he lost,he would still b d eagles coach


Do u think ppu won’t have come for paisero heads too with d way he’s losing games if Dey were “important” matches

andrewbaba44:

Na me oo

daveP:


It was an insult to bring a 94 tactics to the fore at such a crucial moment of our football identity, one with bitter archrivals again. Like, who does that? Was he thinking the match was a 6game thing or what? Like caretaker capacity and you dey do like say no be emergency??

Danielnino00:


The funny thing is that the two games he lost weren't entirely his fault..
Sure,he got some of his tactics and selection wrong..But if Okoye and Uzoho brought their A games on both occasion,we could be talking a different thing...
This world cup has really shown the importance of having a good goalkeeper...
In 2010, Largerback actually tried with the team we had, but Kaita and Yakubu cost us... Enyeama saved us .

mostob:
Please house, I need answers to a particular question.

Do referees stay till tournament end or leave for home before the final.

Like, can they just go home after the group stage (for example) or all of them must stay till the final match has been played?

joelsteron:
Local coaches have levels

TheGoodJoe:


That is why I laugh when people try to mock tiki-taka and the Spanish football philosophers. They are changing the game of football.

Guardiola, Enrique, thanks for this lovely post, now Arteta are spreading their ideas.

They have helped coaches catch up with their tactics and leveled the playing ground a bit.

Guardiola released a full dvd of his coaching methods.

Tomorrow people will start laughing if they lose few games.

TheGoodJoe:


The coach has his philosophy and got the team playing well. Our failures came from goalkeeping errors.

TheGoodJoe:


Na wa O. How does taking tiki taka lessons, equate to play tiki taka. Attacking me will not help.

jihday:
we can’t set standard, we don’t have the funds for it

daveP:
Lol

Stop it na. So Arteta style is Tiki Taka now? Inference!!

Okay.

Mujtahida:

Walahi it is becoming ridiculous. Once a team strings one or two passes, that's tiki taka.

Once a person and Arteta are talking, it's tiki taka as if there aren't a thousand and one things in football that Arteta can teach besides tiki taka.

TheGoodJoe:


Let me help you.

Coaches study tiki taka to broaden their understanding of the game and improve their plays.

I pointed out how good Bono of Morocco is good with his feet and also how well they built from back in the game against Spain.

Those are adaptations from tiki taka he adopted.

Watching him, I could see the adaptations. That is why when you were talking bad of tiki taka, I said you have no clue what you were talking about.

It is transforming football.

So, I never insinuated Morocco plays tiki taka.

daveP:
If Arteta own na Tiki Taka, wetin we go kon call Wenger own?

andrewbaba44:

Na me oo

daveP:
If Arteta own na Tiki Taka, wetin we go kon call Wenger own?

Mujtahida:

So long as Morocco does not play tiki taka, they can take all the lessons they want. They are wise enough to know that that is a dead system of football. Even from an idiot, a wise man will learn how not to be a fool. Working parts can be gotten from a dead car. Still the car is dead. Incorporating elements of a style does not make the style itself faultless. Building play from behind belongs to possession football of which tiki taka is a lifeless branch ( as far as international football is concerned)

If you want to know the merit or demerit of Tiki taka on the international stage you won't look at Morocco, you'd look at Spain. And Spain has been labeled boring, predictable and poor.

Mujtahida:

That is precisely the point. He took the lessons and played differently. And the point is not about lessons but how teams play. You even do not have any evidence that the lessons was about tiki taka. That's why I said we should argue like men because it appears to me that you are arguing for arguing sake. This is not an attack. Arguing for arguments sake is beneath me. I don't indulge in such.

daveP:
and the 1st leg? If that is definition of playing well, then I'm shockering.

daveP:
Lol

Stop it na. So Arteta style is Tiki Taka now? Inference!!

Okay.

TheGoodJoe:


I already told you from watching him, I could see the variations. Later showed where he even noted it. So all this argue like men talk does not add up.

The point is simple. You do not even understand the gravity of what you are debating. You do not understand the impact of the tiki-taka philosophy. You do not understand how coaches travel to learn from it.

Yet, you want call such system dead. The reason is because you do not understand anything about it.

Some of you didn't even know the basic of the importance of a sweeper keeper but you are ready to debate about it.