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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:23pm On Dec 17, 2022
Emmy450:
ah!! Blueelf, na you talk this one?? I'm surprised oh.

Why are you surprised?

That's always been my take on foreign born who initially gilted us but realized they may have been wrong all along
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 7:24pm On Dec 17, 2022
Danielnino00:


It's about time we move away from Ekong as our starting CB.. Akpogunma,Awazeim, Ajayi and even Bassey are better options...

I even think Ekong's time in the national team has come to an end

I really don't see what he offers us that other players don't
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 7:46pm On Dec 17, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
cc: TheSuperNerd

You saw that second goal by Croatia. That is what I pointed out on beating a compact setup defense.

Just as in the early 90s and 2000s where people who could cross accurately from a long range and pick up strikers in the pool of defenders were a toast, people gifted in picking up angles from long range with curling shots will become hot cake.

We went to the last AFCON with a midfielder that can cross the ball, and guess what: he started only one game.
Something is definitely wrong somewhere

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 7:47pm On Dec 17, 2022
The stadia I’ll choose for the Benin/Nigeria 2025 AFCON bid would be:
Abuja
Lagos (potentially refurbished national stadium)
Uyo
Asaba
Kano

Then if Nigeria were to choose 7 venues, I’d go for Port Harcourt and Abeokuta/Teslim Balogun stadium
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 7:50pm On Dec 17, 2022
PDPGuy:
The stadia I’ll choose for the Benin/Nigeria 2025 AFCON bid would be:
Abuja
Lagos (potentially refurbished national stadium)
Uyo
Asaba
Kano

Then if Nigeria were to choose 7 venues, I’d go for Port Harcourt and Abeokuta/Teslim Balogun stadium

No stress ursef ,morroco or south Africa will win d bid

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:51pm On Dec 17, 2022
And that one game this midfielder started was the best midfield display of the Afcon by our team earlier this year but the same Nigerian fans deny it and tell you the lad is useless. Lol

Meli... the problem also extends to the fans. They don't want the truth.

Meliforme:


We went to the last AFCON with a midfielder that can cross the ball, and guess what: he started only one game.
Something is definitely wrong somewhere

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:58pm On Dec 17, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


You can't have a purpose if you can't keep the ball. I am talking about our team, the super eagles and why we find it difficult to keep the ball as a team.

It is because we do not have players who are gifted with the attributes to achieve it.
You can keep the ball and still not fulfill your purpose. It goes either way. I kinda agree with you on the super eagles. Aside Iwobi, I can't pinpoint any other midfielder that has that attribute. To make it worse, Our defenders are not good with ball playing and then there is Moses Simon, the lone ranger.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:02pm On Dec 17, 2022
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:02pm On Dec 17, 2022
TheSuperNerd:




Just too much talk. No substance. Just deliberately moving away from the central focus to things not relevant to the discourse. Just trying so hard.
In the end, you got more information from me than you could handle.

How did you misinform anyone? Here's one example....

Your claiming Garrincha missed the last game due to Injury when he was actually dropped for still injured Pele in 1966 in the last group game.

The FIFA article below laughs at you

That is just how Special Pele is. A 25% fit Pele was still far more dangerous than any other Brazillian in sight.

Pele was major key to their 1958 and 1970 WC triumphs. Facts. He was part of their success in 1962 but Garrincha was the main man in Pele's injury induced absence. Also facts. Two facts can co-exist but you won't know that ofcos.

Just all talk, no direction. Lol

Again, you are welcome. wink No one is entitled to Ignorance. grin

Just look at how he dissected your posts bit by bit and gave you a thorough response. He even ignore your jabs.
I was expecting you to follow suit but you didn't surprise me. You can't call yourself a super analyst and not know simple rules of engagement.
Make you no go dey throw blow inside studio because Dem no gree with your point.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:05pm On Dec 17, 2022
elyte89:


Sincerely speaking,dis gives me headache watching professionals who can’t string 5passes wout losing possession ,as in I taya ,even if we can have 30percent of Spain passing prowess with purpose ,I will be so glad
Coaching bro. Nothing else. Imagine playing Ndidi and Aribo in Midfield and expecting the team to keep the ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:12pm On Dec 17, 2022
mostob:
You can keep the ball and still not fulfill your purpose. It goes either way. I kinda agree with you on the super eagles. Aside Iwobi, I can't pinpoint any other midfielder that has that attribute. To make it worse, Our defenders are not good with ball playing and then there is Moses Simon, the lone ranger.

The point is development. The point is about team growth. A team that can keep the ball well will have to develop the next step, converting their possession to chances.

Now in our case, we can't even keep the ball, let alone have purpose with it.

So, we need to work on fixing our poor ball keeping by working towards the right composition of players.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:12pm On Dec 17, 2022
mostob:
Just look at how he dissected your posts bit by bit and gave you a thorough response. He even ignore your jabs.
I was expecting you to follow suit but you didn't surprise me. You can't call yourself a super analyst and not know simple rules of engagement.
Make you no go dey throw blow inside studio because Dem no gree with your point.

Ofcoz little attention-seeking nobodies like you call that dissection. Did you even bother looking thoroughly at my first response? Ofcoz you didn't. You are only concerned with anyone who just has an opposing view to Nerdie coz you hate Nerdie.

My first response still stands. No need to repeat myself as he practically said nothing substantial.

Your guy just dropped a bunch of irrelevant epistles... so there was no need replying such nonsense but just pick one of the many misinformations he dropped.



You guys won't know anything but will stubbornly persist with misinformation hidden in long irrelevant talks and call it "Dissection". Loolll...


By the way, Why are you so Obsessed With quoting me even when it got nothing to do with you? You always do it, you certified perv.

Always the "cock-fluffer" running in to get a piece of an action that doesn't need it. Lol

Get a life, Mr. Nothing. wink

Quoting me in here to spill nonsense everytime shouldn't be your life purpose.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 8:18pm On Dec 17, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


That is what I am explaining. Instead of hating a team because they are good at keeping the ball, boost our team to become better at keeping the ball.

This mean players with stamina, skill on the ball, intelligence in passing and ability to hit vital passes.

I am saying we need to improve our scouting and development program.

We can't keep the ball if we keep going with players that are not comfortable with the ball. If our players are not well versed in the passing game and if they lack the ability to make incisive and creative passes.
Of course, you are right, however I don't see any player out there better than the ones we have. Aribo and Iwobi can keep the ball. Both including Iheanacho can pass the ball quiet well. A National team is not a club where you can buy players. France could not really keep the ball against Morrocco cos Fofana doesn't possess that quality. Keeping the ball requires playing together and understanding one another. That's why we were able to keep the ball at AFCON cos the boys had time to play together. Even Mane said the SE plays the most exciting football in Africa.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 8:22pm On Dec 17, 2022
PDPGuy:
The stadia I’ll choose for the Benin/Nigeria 2025 AFCON bid would be:
Abuja
Lagos (potentially refurbished national stadium)
Uyo
Asaba
Kano

Then if Nigeria were to choose 7 venues, I’d go for Port Harcourt and Abeokuta/Teslim Balogun stadium
Kano will be hotter than shege at Afcon time
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:25pm On Dec 17, 2022
Let me add this:

Naija fans: We cannot pass the ball. We cannot pass the ball! We can't even string a successful passing triangle sequence through the middle!!!


>>Solution is then suggested and well analysed.... containing MF options from outside the top 5 leagues.


Same Naija Fans: Nooooooo.... Noooooo... We need players playing in the EPL and La Liga only. Players playing in the top leagues only. We cannot ignore them for midfielders in Belgium or tier 2 leagues.


Context: The Tactically imbalanced and passing-deficient Midfield we parade contain players in the EPL and co. But no... we should rather persist with them instead of seeking real-ass solutions.


Naija fans, Hypocrisy and Confusion na 1 & 2 & 3.

TheSuperNerd:
And that one game this midfielder started was the best midfield display of the Afcon by our team earlier this year but the same Nigerian fans deny it and tell you the lad is useless. Lol

Meli... the problem also extends to the fans. They don't want the truth.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:31pm On Dec 17, 2022
charlesemeka85:
even awaziem need to be left out for the main time. Our centre options should be bassey,ekong,akpoguma and ajayi

Awazeim has been far better than Akpos in the GWG, truth be told...
In fact, Awazeim has mostly been decent in the GWG.. Seems like playing in Croatia is the problem you have with him...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:33pm On Dec 17, 2022
elyte89:



Those guys u mentioned are not better,u only prefer d names ,I have seen akpoguma enuf in eagles jersey,he’s just dere and for bassey I will prefer he maintains his. Lb position cos what I saw during Algeria,a good team with a sharp striker will punish us severely,he’s good no doubt but he’s not calm ,cbs are known for been calm and calculative in deir positioning and marking to avoid unnecessary mistakes and cards...odas mentioned too are not better Dan d poor ekong..we seriously need a new cv pairing...d only person dt gives me d confidence in dt defense is still d aging balogun.



Balogun main problem is lack of pace.. but on a normal day, he is a solid option in defence.. Also his ball playing abilities are decent...Those Joel Matip kind of run into the midfield are needed once in a while to break opposition defence...
Ekong in my opinion hasn't shown much improvement since he has been playing for us..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:34pm On Dec 17, 2022
AndSunGorilla:

Akpos hasn't come good for us yet in the 2 friendlies he played, I daresay he was weakest link in our defense on both occasions.

You're right... But I believe he would get better with time...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:35pm On Dec 17, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Watch how both sides are good at keeping the ball and moving it. With the growth of possession heavy game, you must build a team of players that are gifted in passing and keeping the ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:38pm On Dec 17, 2022
Like the Midfield, like the Defence.

TheSuperNerd:
Let me add this:

Naija fans: We cannot pass the ball. We cannot pass the ball! We can't even string a successful passing triangle sequence through the middle!!!


>>Solution is then suggested and well analysed.... containing MF options from outside the top 5 leagues.


Same Naija Fans: Nooooooo.... Noooooo... We need players playing in the EPL and La Liga only. Players playing in the top leagues only. We cannot ignore them for midfielders in Belgium or tier 2 leagues.


Context: The Tactically imbalanced and passing-deficient Midfield we parade contain players in the EPL and co. But no... we should rather persist with them instead of seeking real-ass solutions.


Naija fans, Hypocrisy and Confusion na 1 & 2 & 3.


The above scenario also applies to the Defense. Not just the midfield.

If a few good legs outside the top leagues can still help fix our Defensive issues and also raise the passing quality of our buildup plays from the back, then we should not ignore them all because their club names don't sound sweet to the tongue.


Danielnino00:


Awazeim has been far better than Akpos in the GWG, truth be told...
In fact, Awazeim has mostly been decent in the GWG.. Seems like playing in Croatia is the problem you have with him...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:38pm On Dec 17, 2022
TheGoodJoe:
Watch how both sides are good at keeping the ball and moving it. With the growth of possession heavy game, you must build a team of players that are gifted in passing and keeping the ball.

Both sides have been a delight to watch. Amarabat remains my player of the tournament. [b]So gifted with the ball in tight spaces.


We can't expect to excel if we don't field exceptional players gifted with the ball and incredible with passing.

Those managing the team need to carry out a continuous comprehensive scouting if we intend to excel.

When it comes to managing oneself in and out of tight spaces, Chidera Ejuke, is the best i have seen in the entire crop of S.E players. The ability to handle oneself in tight spaces without losing the ball and good ball passing skills is vital to keeping a team's ball possession.

No S.E forward is better than Ejuke in terms of passing skills. Imagine that Aribo and Ndidi that are used as midfielders don't possess Ejuke's passing skills. I have seen Ejuke handle himself out of tight spaces and then switch the current play with a long ball.

In the last AFCON, Ejuke started only one game and was not in the match day squad for our last game against Tunisia.
Something is definitely wrong somewhere

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:38pm On Dec 17, 2022
Danielnino00:


Awazeim has been far better than Akpos in the GWG, truth be told...
In fact, Awazeim has mostly been decent in the GWG.. Seems like playing in Croatia is the problem you have with him...

U shld knw Charles by now,once u re not playing in d top 6 elite European leagues...if u like score 1000goals,u no sabi be dt

And dt has been nerdie and philosophy preaching here dt we shld start looking beyond where dis guys play alone but also look at what u will bring differently to d team irrespective of where u play

But baba charles no go gree, I heard Croatia keeper sef ,plays in deir local league and look at aw good he’s in dis tournament

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:38pm On Dec 17, 2022
PDPGuy:
The stadia I’ll choose for the Benin/Nigeria 2025 AFCON bid would be:
Abuja
Lagos (potentially refurbished national stadium)
Uyo
Asaba
Kano

Then if Nigeria were to choose 7 venues, I’d go for Port Harcourt and Abeokuta/Teslim Balogun stadium
Only reason Kano can be selected is because of quota system... The stadium capacity is small and the pitch us artificial, although last time I checked,it was undergoing a renovation... Also remove Abeokuta and replace with Ibadan or Enugu..

But then, Morocco or Algeria will most likely win the bid...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:41pm On Dec 17, 2022
elyte89:


U shld knw Charles by now,once u re not playing in d top 6 elite European leagues...if u like score 1000goals,u no sabi be dt

And dt has been nerdie and philosophy preaching here dt we shld start looking beyond where dis guys play alone but also look at what u will bring differently to d team irrespective of where u play

But baba charles no go gree, I heard Croatia keeper sef ,plays in deir local league and look at aw good he’s in dis tournament
If Awazeim was foreign born, Emeka won't have much issue with where he plays... shebi he was hyping Josh Maja and Aribo when they were playing in the English league 1..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:41pm On Dec 17, 2022
maidaboi:
shey Eze don agree to play for Nigeria?

Nigeria has remembered him that song, "Know me when I'm poor , not when I'm rich" comes to mind.

After inviting Eberechi Eze to the SE March 2017 we forgot he existed, there was a chance to invite him to several friendlies including the inconsequential Athletico Madrid game but we didn't.

Now he has blown , we have finally remembered him. Actually Rohr was very keen to invite him but was not able to.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:42pm On Dec 17, 2022
Marjoribanks:
Of course, you are right, however I don't see any player out there better than the ones we have. Aribo and Iwobi can keep the ball. Both including Iheanacho can pass the ball quiet well. A National team is not a club where you can buy players. France could not really keep the ball against Morrocco cos Fofana doesn't possess that quality. Keeping the ball requires playing together and understanding one another. That's why we were able to keep the ball at AFCON cos the boys had time to play together. Even Mane said the SE plays the most exciting football in Africa.

That is why it boils down to comprehensive scouting. We need to develop a thorough way to search and pick players with the right attributes.

We also need to take our age grade programs more seriously. Stop cutting corners.

Good Footballers are not only in the quality leagues in Europe.

We need to appreciate Keshi's mindset, where the likes of Oboabona and a young Omeruo helped us clinch the AFCON.

We need to remember how Keshi scouted Aaron Samuel from China.

However, it has to do with the scouting team having the eye to site gems. Just like Westerhof saw Amokachi playing for Ranchers Bees as a 16 years old and new he found a quality talent.

How Babawo Mohammed saw Mikel playing on the street and took him to Kashimawo Laloko and Laloko called Mikel (a teenager in secondary school) the best player in the country.

We need to scout comprehensively and not wait for players to breakthrough in clubs in Europe.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 8:46pm On Dec 17, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
And that one game this midfielder started was the best midfield display of the Afcon by our team earlier this year but the same Nigerian fans deny it and tell you the lad is useless. Lol

Meli... the problem also extends to the fans. They don't want the truth.


The truth doesn't rock their ego.
Could this be low self esteem.
They obviously don't want to associate with someone who they believe is in the low places, not minding the beauty in such person.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:49pm On Dec 17, 2022
Blueelf:
The only reason Ebere Eze may make a u-turn and decide to play for us is because he knows that his chances of making the english team are next to nothing

There's no loyalty in that and TBH, I am wary of such players

What's loyalty got to do with it ❓

What is this LOYALTY, we talking about ❓❓,is it a PATRIOTIC sense of duty , what does it mean ❓❓❓

For instance 95% of our political leaders are loyal to themselves and consider self interest over national interest. We have President who almost took up permanent residence in the UK ��, Presidential candidates with principal residence in Dubai along with the current presidents wife.

We have the highest paid legislators in the entire world. Yet we are poverty striken. And they are loyal honourable Nigerians.

If Nigerian born players could change allegiance to other countries how many would do so ❓❓

Commitment to excellence is the issue, and you can only do that with quality. Commitment to loyalty without quality is equal to MEDIOCRITY.

It's simplistic.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:50pm On Dec 17, 2022
Meliforme:


When it comes to managing oneself in and out of tight spaces, Chidera Ejuke, is the best i have seen in the entire crop of S.E players. The ability to handle oneself in tight spaces without losing the ball and good ball passing skills is vital to keeping a team's ball possession.

No S.E forward is better than Ejuke in terms of passing skills. Imagine that Aribo and Ndidi that are used as midfielders don't possess Ejuke's passing skills. I have seen Ejuke handle himself out of tight spaces and then switch the current play with a long ball.

In the last AFCON, Ejuke started only one game and was not in the match day squad for our last game against Tunisia.
Something is definitely wrong somewhere



I am just speechless. Don't know where to start from. It is so glaring that there is a lot of issues with our team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 8:51pm On Dec 17, 2022
elyte89:


U shld knw Charles by now,once u re not playing in d top 6 elite European leagues...if u like score 1000goals,u no sabi be dt

And dt has been nerdie and philosophy preaching here dt we shld start looking beyond where dis guys play alone but also look at what u will bring differently to d team irrespective of where u play

But baba charles no go gree, I heard Croatia keeper sef ,plays in deir local league and look at aw good he’s in dis tournament
those that play in top 6 leagues in europe were favoured because of how handsome and glamorous they re akwaya abi no be their quality and talent carry them go such leagues?

Continue! grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:53pm On Dec 17, 2022
Honestly that kind of thinking is the reason many of them can't identify the "diamond in the rough" or pick out the "pearls among stones" in other life aspects outside of football.

They think everything good and effective is always obvious. Well, sometimes it is not always obvious/apparent. One has to look closer.

The way they reason in here tells me most of what I need to know about their mindsets towards life itself.

It only takes a man or woman with deep and open-minded perception and insight to look beyond certain walls and identify the central element.

Meliforme:


The truth doesn't rock their ego.
Could this be low self esteem.
They obviously don't want to associate with someone who they believe is in the low places, not minding the beauty in such person.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:57pm On Dec 17, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
A Reminder: Dominic Livakovic is a GK based in Croatia, a backwater league.

Dominik Livakovic, 27 yrs, plays for Dinamo Zagreb, the only side in Croatia sitting above Awaziem's Hajduk Split.

He has been there for 6 seasons. And he kept goal ahead of Atletico Madrid's Ivo Grbic.

A backwater league GK showing quality even with a Top 5 leagues GK in the team.

Again, my point rings.

Quality is quality as long as what you bring uplifts the NT. It doesn't matter where you play. That criterion is secondary.... the number 1 and primary check is your quality level and if you have what the team needs.

Football is first about players quality & Tactical sync before where a player plies his trade.

Well done Livakovic. PSO and GK Demon.

#Qatar2022DiariesMD.

Truth dey always get enemy. grin

elyte89:


U shld knw Charles by now,once u re not playing in d top 6 elite European leagues...if u like score 1000goals,u no sabi be dt

And dt has been nerdie and philosophy preaching here dt we shld start looking beyond where dis guys play alone but also look at what u will bring differently to d team irrespective of where u play

But baba charles no go gree, I heard Croatia keeper sef ,plays in deir local league and look at aw good he’s in dis tournament

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