Mujtahida:

The same person who will argue to no end that Spain plays spectacular football is the one saying that France plays bland football.

I thought we could discuss objectively but I see he's driven by his preferences. Until yesterday I never liked Mbappe. I saw him more as an athlete than a footballer but yesterday I saw that Mbappe is not just a footballer, he is a great footballer. I put my prejudice aside.

Person reach finals and even though from the onset he got his tactics right, he course corrected and gave us the world cup finals of our lives. Yet a theoretical analyst (yes, we all theoretical analysts) say he lacks tactical acumen but he's a good coach. How person one take be good coach if he lacks tactical acumen?

benji93:
Why do you like constructing unverifiably uninteresting hypotheticals possible only on Fifa? If he had? The players wey him get no be players? And he still got kicked out by Morocco, despite having a superior team.
Shame no dey catch you. . A team plays at the finals and lost narrowly on penalties, but you still get mind to tell us they played bland footie.

andrewbaba44:
Good morning if your goat is a world champion

daveP:


You know we will. We never miss two world cups b2b

Mujtahida:

The same person who will argue to no end that Spain plays spectacular football is the one saying that France plays bland football.

I thought we could discuss objectively but I see he's driven by his preferences. Until yesterday I never liked Mbappe. I saw him more as an athlete than a footballer but yesterday I saw that Mbappe is not just a footballer, he is a great footballer. I put my prejudice aside.

Person reach finals and even though from the onset he got his tactics wrong, he course corrected and gave us the world cup finals of our lives. Yet a theoretical analyst (yes, we all theoretical analysts) say he lacks tactical acumen but he's a good coach. How person one take be good coach if he lacks tactical acumen?

mostob:
Mourinho? You wan make Osimehn dey play CDM

Mujtahida:
France under Deschamps:
Euro 2016 finalist
World cup winners 2018
Euro 2021 second round
Qatar WC 2022 finalists

Frank Lebeouf said that the head of the French FA told Deschamps if he gets to the Semi, it's on him to decide if he wants to continue as head coach.

But my brother thegoodjoe wey me and him dey naija hia say Deschamps should be excused.

Julien Laurens, a French journalist who is a regular on ESPN with Frank Lebeouf mentioned all the young players in the French team with great future and said that is why Deschamps will stay, that if Deschamps is not stupid (his exact words) he can see that with all players missing(he mentions Pogba, Kante, Benzema) , France was still the second best team of the tournament.

The French are wiser. They know better. A man is judged by results not theories.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAhBOkTqop0

Mujtahida:
France under Deschamps:
Euro 2016 finalist
World cup winners 2018
Euro 2021 second round
Qatar WC 2022 finalists

Frank Lebeouf said that the head of the French FA told Deschamps if he gets to the Semi, it's on him to decide if he wants to continue as head coach.

But my brother thegoodjoe wey me and him dey naija hia say Deschamps should be excused.

Julien Laurens, a French journalist who is a regular on ESPN with Frank Lebeouf mentioned all the young players in the French team with great future and said that is why Deschamps will stay, that if Deschamps is not stupid (his exact words) he can see that with all players missing(he mentions Pogba, Kante, Benzema) , France was still the second best team of the tournament.

The French are wiser. They know better. A man is judged by results not theories.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAhBOkTqop0

TheGoodJoe:


Nigeria legend Ifeanyi Udeze has explained why France lost in the final of the 2022 World Cup against Argentina on Sunday.

“France’s approach, in the beginning, was wrong. They could have started the game with the intensity with which they played the second half,” he told Brila FM as quoted by Daily Post.

“The solution was to attack, attack, and attack the Argentines. They were not supposed to relax if there was to be a change in fortunes earlier. They were playing ‘serere’ football and that wouldn’t help you.

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/world-cup-why-france-lost-to-argentina-in-the-final-udeze/blt3a4402577421c194

TheGoodJoe:

France has always been a team that have a huge pool of players. In France 98, Aime Jacquet went without Ginola, Cantona and some key French players and won the World Cup.

The point is his approach was weak. From Udeze's statement, Deschamps was weak in his attacking approach in the first part of the game, which led to France taking the lead.

When the went to attack, they put two past Argentina and equalized. From my observation, he then went back to his weak attacking setup and Argentina led again.

My point is, with a more formidable attacking setup, this French team can become lethal and better.

Mujtahida:

Of course I agree with Udeze but there were extenuating factors. Giroud was in doubt for the match and I read it here on Nairaland the case of the strange virus that infected the French.

Bottom line Udeze never said that Deschamps lacks tactical acumen.


The irony is that the same you who crowns Enrique whose team is internationally certified as boring is saying that Deschamps lacks tactical acumen.

TheGoodJoe:

France has always been a team that have a huge pool of players. In France 98, Aime Jacquet went without Ginola, Cantona and some key French players and won the World Cup.

The point is his approach was weak. From Udeze's statement, Deschamps was weak in his attacking approach in the first part of the game, which led to France taking the lead.

When the went to attack, they put two past Argentina and equalized. From my observation, he then went back to his weak attacking setup and Argentina led again.

My point is, with a more formidable attacking setup, this French team can become lethal and better.

TheGoodJoe:

France has always been a team that have a huge pool of players. In France 98, Aime Jacquet went without Ginola, Cantona and some key French players and won the World Cup.

The point is his approach was weak. From Udeze's statement, Deschamps was weak in his attacking approach in the first part of the game, which led to France taking the lead.

When the went to attack, they put two past Argentina and equalized. From my observation, he then went back to his weak attacking setup and Argentina led again.

My point is, with a more formidable attacking setup, this French team can become lethal and better.

forgiveness:


1 wc can't make Messi displace Pele. Fact.

He wasn't even the best in tournament but because FIFA see him an a Italian descent of Argentine, dem dash a motm and best player of the tournament.

Even the game against Croatia, he was not the best player but dem dash am.

Napoleon55:
Mbape still have the likes of Ronaldo De Lima,Ronaldinho,Zidan to catch up to and surpass their achievements before joining the GOAT club.
He is still yet to win ballon d'or and champions league.
World Cup or no world ,C.Ronaldo is still far ahead of him in GOAT conversation .

Messi
Pele
Maradona
C.Ronaldo

charlesemeka85:
Vinicius not near to osimhen and moffi?

Una don start again abi?

TheGoodJoe:


The point is very simple. France had enough ammunition to take out Argentina. At the time they equalized 2-2, it was time to go for the jugular.

Unless you will say France were solid after the equalizer, you are arguing against plain facts.

France were poor after the equalizer. Their build up plays were awful. They gave away possession to Argentina carelessly. Despite the quality in the French side, Deschamps could not get them to attack.

The point is simple.

Telling us he reached Finals is known by the whole world. Unless you are disagreeing with a simple point that France were poor after their equalizer, your argument is not in line with the point. It is incoherent.

AndSunGorilla:

Don't be surprised if some right wing french guys blame the defeat on the black players. Recall that for the 98 WC, there was a prominent politician who came out to say the 98 team wasn't French enough, that they had too many blacks and arabs.

Mujtahida:

What you said from the onset that riled me is different from what you are saying now.

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Deschamps lacks tactical acumen. He should be excused. His team plays bland football. The way he set up the French the team in the final is criminal.

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Please show me your criticism of gaudiola when his tactical errors in the champion's league final was widely acknowledged. Did you call for him to leave Man City? No! Your biases will not let you.

I bet if France were to play the drudgery of your preferred tiki taka, no matter how boring it is, you'd be here hailing Deschamps.

You are the champion of boring football aka tiki taka and you no suppose label France as boring.

typicalgamer:


His approach was weak

Some una enh make me they shame with una statements

Mujtahida:

Then you put your point across poorly when you say that the coach lacks tactical acumen and he should be excused. Every once in a while good coaches flip. It has happened to gaudiola more than once. Would you then say he's lacks tactical acumen.

Criticize Deschamps approach. That's fair given the game we saw but going overboard to say he lacks tactical acumen and that he should be removed is to demean his achievements.

France had a good pool of players but were knocked out first round of the 2002 world cup. They had a good pool of players but Domenech did not achieve anything with them. England since the mid 2002s has had a good pool of players. They've even been coached by illustrious coaches like Capello. Their achievements are nowhere near the French.

So having a good pool of players is one side of the coin. The other side is getting CONSISTENT results with them. Deschamps record is consistent with great results. The French know better.

elyte89:



Ogbeni,gbenu soun , wc approach was weak

Person Dey class Dey carry 1st(2018),2nd (2022)position ,u wey no even Dey class,u Dey advise am say him approach to achieve those positions Dey weak,if e easy do am na


Let’s assume he heeds to ur advise or approach,no b d same 1st or 2nd he will attain,wc oda position is better Dan dis

ChrisKels:


No doubt about his talent but this boy is already 24 and he is older than Osimhen, Mbappe, Harland and even Raphael Leao

TheGoodJoe:


You have made no point here.

Mujtahida:

Of course I agree with Udeze but there were extenuating factors. Giroud was in doubt for the match and I read it here on Nairaland the case of the strange virus that infected the French.

Bottom line Udeze never said that Deschamps lacks tactical acumen.


The irony is that the same you who crowns Enrique whose team is internationally certified as boring is saying that Deschamps lacks tactical acumen.

typicalgamer:


Bro i they shame for you

Never expected you to type for just typing sake

His approach was weak
Like come on man

TheGoodJoe:


Even Deschamps knows they were poor but here are people like you attacking me for pointing out plain facts. Take time to watch games and stop arguing against something you can tell by watching the match.

TheGoodJoe:


You are literally just attacking and not analysing. I have broken the points down for you and you have not addressed one point.

The point is simple. Deschamps was docile as soon as France equalized and had enough ammunition to take out Argentina. They need someone with a sharper acumen to make the most of the offensive firepower of France.

This is not about a game but inability to make the team fire on all cylinders. Guardiola has had the team creating the most chances in Europe. So tell me how you can criticize that.

typicalgamer:


It was deschamps fault that more than half of his players had an off game

His approach was weak !!!

Same approach he’s been using since group stage ?

Mujtahida:

Show me where I attacked. I am making my points forcefully albeit . So make your points without You didn't break down any points.

You'd say a goat is a cow. When it's pointed out to you that a goat cannot possibly be a cow, you'd say no, it's simple that a cow is a goat.

This is the point: from the way France played yesterday, you went over and beyond criticizing his tactics for that particular match(which is justified) to saying that he lacks tactical acumen and that it's time for him to go.

Haba. If another person puts forward this statement, I might not contest it but it should not come from you. It shouldn't.


Thank God, Julien Laurient says that Deschamps will be stupid to go away.