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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 6:49pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Ibime: Alright I don hear you. 9 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FirstbornWds: 6:51pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Messi is set to be eternalized on Pele's playground. You can't force these things. It's just GOAT doings 11 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 6:55pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
popizaino: Do the players in Argentina and Brazil national squad play in their local leagues? 3 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibukzy: 6:59pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Brazil and Italy were Olympic and European champions, respectively too, what did they end up with at this World cup finals Ibime: |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 7:00pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Itsrm: All students in a class have access to the same Lecturer, materials, etc... but they won't graduate with the same grades. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 7:02pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
someone please check or Trever012 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 7:05pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Expert17: The same Blatter who "helped" Messi win 4 balon d'ors consecutively 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:06pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
hensben: In the days of Maradona vs Pele GOAT argument I used to support and argue for Maradona being greater than Pele And my arguments stem from Pele being part of a Galactico all star team vs Maradona who was part of a mediocre team Now Messi has now surpassed Maradona. So how can I twist to say Pele who I argued was less than Maradona is now greater than Messi? 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 7:08pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Joezinho: Oya sorry don't cry. Chill with this one. 9 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 7:11pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Skimpledawg: These Penduists must collect! 3 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Expert17: 7:11pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Just dey play 13 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Afobear: 7:14pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
oliverano: I go float ... E too salty |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 7:26pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Messi’s sleeping with world cup Instagram post is at 49M likes. He’s going to defeat the egg twice. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 7:28pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
The only record penaldo hold which Messi will never break is; 1 goal in Europa. 11 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 7:29pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Ballzproblem2:Thunder will fire tuchel every gw do you know this guy?
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:29pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Phraser: You talk too much without saying anything. You said you have been following my arguments and nothing I have shown shows Pele greater than Messi when everything I have shown shows Pele bodying Messi from stats to achievements to trophies on a like for like comparative basis Your problem as above is that you want to conflate greatness with who was better Who compares who is better over different eras with different sets of conditions? Greatness is about how dominant you are over your peers and your achievements and stats and Pele is miles above Messi in that respect. I'm not interested in who is better which is a frankly foolish argument Mohammed Ali is greater than Tyson Fury but Tyson Fury will beat him today Moussa Dembele of Spurs is better by far than Jorginho of Chelsea but Jorginho is greater by virtue of achievements and trophies So don't waste our time with too much words on nonsensical arguments Players are to be compared in relation to their era, we are not interested in time travel to see who is better. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:39pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Bluelines69: If Oliver Khan a goalkeeper could win golden ball over Ronaldo in 2002 for making few saves Vs Ronaldo who tore the tournament down with 8 goals scoring the only two goals in the final, the only goal in the semi, and in the second round also. . . . Why would Neuer who revolutionised goalkeeping in the 2014 world cup lose to someone without a single goal contribution in the knockout stage Neuer also won the tournament with decisive contribution in the final Vs Oliver Khan who lost the final You can see the playing field is not equal We haven't come to Rodriguez, Robben or even Neymar or the German midfielders or Philip Lahm who deserved it more. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:46pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Phraser: 7:46pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Ibime: Since your argument is about who is greater and not who is better, how then can something as subjective as greatness be measured? You say by team trophies and stats, which I don't think is a good benchmark for measuring greatness. But to indulge you: How many stats does Pele have more than Messi? (reasonable ones, I mean; not that non-penalty goals strawman). Besides the World Cup, does Pele have more trophies than Messi? Did you add freekick goals, individual awards, Olympic gold medal and Copa America? Under-20 World Cup? Greatness is simply popularity/influence. And yes, Messi (and CR7) is the far more popular and influential footballer. He currently has the most liked photo in social media history and nearly half a billion followers on Instagram. Of course, playing in the social media era helped, as I said earlier. Now I hear Argentina wants to put Messi's face on one of their banknotes. How many people in the street do you see wearing Pele's jersey today? Pele is the GOAT my foot. 15 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 7:48pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Ibime: Go and check who assisted Argentina's only goal by Di Maria against Switzerland in the RO 16. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 7:52pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
donstan18:we will see how the Argentina keeper will carry Aston villa to the league this season.. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OhBritannia(m): 7:53pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
How the argument went from messi must win the world cup first to be the greatest of all time To Pele has three world cups so he is greater than Messi This is how GOD confuses haters 12 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:00pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Phraser: I can see you know your football very well and i will like to ask you a question that is totally unrelated to messi and Pele debate. Pls who is better between Zidane and iniesta? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Phraser: 8:00pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Ibime, Also, speaking of influence/legacy, how many of Pele's goals are instantly recognizable in popular culture? People know Messi's run against Getafe and Athletic Bilbao, his header against United and the out-of-the-box goal he scored against them in '11, his freekick goal against Liverpool, his solo run against Real Madrid on receiving a pass in the midfield from Busquets. And now I think the long-range shot he scored against Mexico in this World Cup and the assist he provided in the Netherlands game will enjoy that pop culture status. So popular are these goals that they have become memes. Which of Pele's goals is in the popular imagination like any of the ones cited above? At least Maradona has the Hand of God goal and the famous run against England. 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:02pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
TLona1: They play in Europe. So how is what Mbappe said there disrespectful? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Phraser: 8:04pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
popizaino: I prefer the way Iniesta played and he was better in some aspects of the game, but Zidane impacted more games than Iniesta did. So, Zidane. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OhBritannia(m): 8:07pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
I am particularly surprised as to how Americans are celebrating Lionel Messi. All their major news channels have all being about Messi, Messi and Messi from CNN to Fox and many more. I've never seen them talk about any sports Star except in the sporting segments but they have included Lionel Messi In their News schedule for every minute for 24 hours. It's like all soccer fans in America are fans of Lionel Messi. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:08pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
raumdeuter:Good clarification from you baba, I got your message. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 8:08pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
raumdeuter: Dayokanu at his very best... 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:09pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Can't wait for Mount, Havertz and Jorginho to sanitize this thread 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 8:11pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Everything nor be nostalgia. I have great respect for the legendary Pele he is an icon, but Messi is the greatest football player of all time. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:11pm On Dec 21, 2022 |
Brazilian wonder kid Andrey Santos�� is on his way to Chelsea.The Club intended to formalize the proposal for the midfielder after the World Cup and it arrived this week.Manchester City and Newcastle also made offers, but the boy chose Chelsea. ( @pedrosa Chelsea have closed the signing of Vasco da gama's 18-year old Brazilian midfielder Andrey Santos. He is expected to undergo medical tests and sign the contract The project offered by the London club weighed above all else.✍️��� #CFC (via @UOLEsporte ) |
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