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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Phraser: 10:25pm On Dec 21, 2022
Ibime:


When you write stuff like this you only show your ignorance

Pele was the first to dribble from his own box and score which went round the world

If I ask you to tell me about R9 similar goal against Compostela, can you?

Do you know of Saeed Al Owairan goal for Saudi Arabia against Belgium in 1994 where he dribbled the whole pitch, or do you know of George Weahs own?

Only speak within your breadth of knowledge and what your generation shares on Social Media, don't assume we didn't see things that our TVs popularised before social media

Bla, bla, bla. More condescension from someone who thinks you do not know football if you are not 150 years old. I'm a Barça fan, and you think I wouldn't know of R9's goal?

But that's not the point. The question is: which of Pele's goals remains a part of modern-day pop culture, just like Maradona's solo run against England or Zidane's volley against Bayer Leverkusen?

No one cares if he was the first to dribble on the moon. We are talking about his greatness/legacy/popularity/impact. You say he has more than Messi. So which of his goals are instantly recognizable by many in pop culture today?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:27pm On Dec 21, 2022
Arizoner:
stop mentioning the name of god in vain. pagan
Of course I’m thanking the creator for Messi’s triumphant at just concluded wc but because you are blinded by hate you couldn’t comprehend. Nor let hate kee you, take it easy on yourself.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 10:27pm On Dec 21, 2022
Phraser:


I prefer the way Iniesta played and he was better in some aspects of the game, but Zidane impacted more games than Iniesta did. So, Zidane.

Fair point although i share a completely view to yours. Andres iniesta is simply better for me.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 10:29pm On Dec 21, 2022
CAPdan21:

Show the number of goals he scored with each foot or accept you're saying nonsense...Maybe Wikipedia can help you

Watch and count yourself.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu8mh85817o

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 10:32pm On Dec 21, 2022
Phraser:


Bla, bla, bla. More condescension from someone who thinks you do not know football if you are not 150 years old. I'm a Barça fan, and you think I wouldn't know of R9's goal?

But that's not the point. The question is: which of Pele's goals remains a part of modern-day pop culture, just like Maradona's solo run against England or Zidane's volley against Bayer Leverkusen?

No one cares if he was the first to dribble on the moon. We are talking about his greatness/legacy/popularity/impact. You say he has more than Messi. So which of his goals are instantly recognizable by many in pop culture today?

Whats ibime’s metrics in rating pele ahead of Messi if I may ask? Three wc trophy which is a team success and he was carried to two. A solo goal? Talent? Impact? lol. Ibime let it go bruv.

*light weed*.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:34pm On Dec 21, 2022
forgiveness:


Watch and count yourself.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pu8mh85817o
Nah I'm not doing your work for you...Btw it says 320 goals there, where the rest of the 2000 goals your MCM scored...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 10:37pm On Dec 21, 2022
Arizoner:
messi is no goat becos its subjective. However, messi is greatest is in time
Thanks for making my point for me. Just like the best cars today are the best cars there ever was, so is it with Messi. Since he is the best of his era, he invariably is the best of all times. QED.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 10:38pm On Dec 21, 2022
hensben:
Modric was the best player of the tournament hence the works carried. Cr7 couldn’t lead his team to semi or final
I don't care about nonsense consolation polling booth awards just like the one they awarded Messi in 2014. Despite not leading the tournament in goals or assists or scoring in the knockout stage

A man that scored 1 goal in 14 matches cannot be accused of carrying a team

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 10:38pm On Dec 21, 2022
CAPdan21:

Nah I'm not doing your work for you...Btw it says 320 goals there, where the rest of the 2000 goals your MCM scored...

You no get data? Are you lazy? See and count with your eyes and stop deviating from top.

If you wan see the rest, finish your assignment first before you can pass to another class. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 10:41pm On Dec 21, 2022
Pele worked for all his goals. No bi one person wey dem dey feed pass for Barcelona tap in we dey here oooo. angry grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Arizoner: 10:46pm On Dec 21, 2022
hensben:
Of course I’m thanking the creator for Messi’s triumphant at just concluded wc but because you are blinded by hate you couldn’t comprehend. Nor let hate kee you, take it easy on yourself.
next time leave god out of this. God doesn't watch football. He has pressing issues to attend to.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 10:49pm On Dec 21, 2022
forgiveness:


You no get data? Are you lazy? See and count with your eyes and stop deviating from top.

If you wan see the rest, finish your assignment first before you can pass to another class. grin
Oga it's up to you to prove your baseless claim not the other way around...Na me go dey strain my eyes for your black and white graphics to prop up your MCM Abi...Show the goals scored by each foot or accept you're pulling arguments out of your arse...

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Arizoner: 10:57pm On Dec 21, 2022
forgiveness:
Pele worked for all his goals. No bi one person wey dem dey feed pass for Barcelona tap in we dey here oooo. angry grin

list of players that made messi

Ronaldinho
Eto
Henry
Larsson,
Iniesta,
Deco,
Xavi
busquet
Guily
Marquez
Alves
Neymar
Abidal
Villa
Pedro

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibunkun1(m): 10:58pm On Dec 21, 2022
forgiveness:
Pele worked for all his goals. No bi one person wey dem dey feed pass for Barcelona tap in we dey here oooo. angry grin


Wetin be this, na Messi dem dey feed tap in? grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:59pm On Dec 21, 2022
Phraser:


Bla, bla, bla. More condescension from someone who thinks you do not know football if you are not 150 years old. I'm a Barça fan, and you think I wouldn't know of R9's goal?

But that's not the point. The question is: which of Pele's goals remains a part of modern-day pop culture, just like Maradona's solo run against England or Zidane's volley against Bayer Leverkusen?

No one cares if he was the first to dribble on the moon. We are talking about his greatness/legacy/popularity/impact. You say he has more than Messi. So which of his goals are instantly recognizable by many in pop culture today?


Peles header against Italy, his round the keeper move, Gordon Banks save from Pele header and Brazil's team goal against Italy for which Pele provided the assist and is lauded as the greatest team goal ever. These are what are iconic on my TV screen, not no Getafe goal

Like I said the more you talk, the more you expose your myopia and ignorance and what your social media algorithms feed you

I named some goals I have seen a few times on a par with Messi goal against Getafe. I have only seen that goal against Getafe maybe twice. One of them was even forced on me by a gif Airmark posted here. Talk about your algorithms that occur to you Messi dickrydas that go looking for that shyt, it has never appeared on my feed. But I go looking for the goals I mentioned. When World Cup is starting this Italy team goal is always played over here in UK, nobody is playing Getafe goal on my TV, never seen it on TV. Super sports should do better in Africa with historical reviews when World Cup is about to start so some clown won't tell me about Getafe goal, when I've seen the goal below on my TV dozens of times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5HbmeNKino


This Pele header in 1970 WC final is more iconic than any of Messi goals. This is what they shown my TV. What have they shown for Messi in World Cup, a man who had no World Cup history?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPzNStFGgno


Then you have the Pele round the world miss. Miss that is more iconic than any goal they have ever showed for Messi when World Cup is starting. I guess they can now show the tapin against France going forward.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzRsvCsC4c

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 10:59pm On Dec 21, 2022
CAPdan21:

Oga it's up to you to prove your baseless claim not the other way around...Na me go dey strain my eyes for your black and white graphics to prop up your MCM Abi...Show the goals scored by each foot or accept you're pulling arguments out of your arse...

Fact is staring at you but still asking for proof. grin

No wonder this country bi as e bi. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimmarlykay(m): 10:59pm On Dec 21, 2022
Ibime:


If someone can be dragging with you 60 years later, just know he is eternal

Give it ten years, all the euphoria will be gone and they will be putting Messi in his proper position, assessing his contributions clinically in relation to others

When Iniesta was winning WC and Euros, he was the greatest AM ever according to the euphoria of the day, just 5 years later he was being dragged for Modric and others

Messi that won just last week with high in-game emotions is dragging with Pele. What of 60 years from now when no one gives a fúck about the minute details of the game. Pele is eternal

You are a clown if you think Peeps won't talk about Messi in the next 60years.

Guy rest you're in pains but disguising, the reason people still troll Iniesta is because he was not all about stat deep you know INi is clear..That said,you can't use that metric against Messi he has written his name on FIFA'S book,his resúmé surpasses Pkele He has more goal for a single club and is even about to obliterate Pkele's pitiful 7 balon d or.


Messi has more personal achievements or you think peeps won't talk about that?So they won't talk about 92 goals in a calendar year?They won't talk about 2 golden ball?They won't talk about being the best player of all the NT trophies he won?No yawa i will revisit you once Messi wins his 8th balon d Or.. then God's willing, in the next 5years i will still check up on you meanwhile. tongue

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 11:01pm On Dec 21, 2022
Arizoner:
list of players that made messi

Ronaldinho
Eto
Henry
Larsson,
Iniesta,
Deco,
Xavi
busquet
Guily
Marquez
Alves
Neymar
Abidal
Villa
Pedro

Without these aforementioned players, person for no reach this level. cheesy

Na tap in bros sabi.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 11:02pm On Dec 21, 2022
Ibunkun1:


Wetin be this, na Messi dem dey feed tap in? grin

No bi me talk am ooooo. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 11:02pm On Dec 21, 2022
forgiveness:


Fact is staring at you but still asking for proof. grin

No wonder this country bi as e bi. cheesy
Which fact...If you think say to scroll through 2 hr black and white highlight na beans, why you nor do am..Nor be me go provide proof for your MCM
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 11:03pm On Dec 21, 2022
CAPdan21:

You're the one sounding foolish...dembele is two footed, guess he's a more rounded player than Mbappe...What of Son and Kane, Perisic and modric nkor


Santi Carzola is ambidextrous, i bet he is better than zidane.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:04pm On Dec 21, 2022
Arizoner:
next time leave god out of this. God doesn't watch football. He has pressing issues to attend to.
See God PA. Lol
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 11:06pm On Dec 21, 2022
Ibime:


Peles header against Italy, his round the keeper move in that final, Gordon Banks save from Pele header and Brazil's team goal against Italy for which Pele provided the assist and is lauded as the greatest team goal ever

Like I said the more you talk, the more you expose your myopia and ignorance and what your social media algorithms feed you

I named some goals I have seen a few times on a par with Messi goal against Getafe. I have only seen that goal against Getafe maybe twice. One of them was even forced on me by a gif Airmark posted here. Talk about your algorithms that occur to you Messi dicksúckers that go looking for that shyt, it has never appeared on my feed. But I go looking for the goals I mentioned. When World Cup is starting this Italy team goal is always played over here in UK, nobody is playing Getafe goal on my TV, never seen it on TV. Super sports should do better in Africa with historical reviews when World Cup is about to start so some clown won't tell me about Getafe goal, when I've seen the goal below on my TV dozens of times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5HbmeNKino


This Pele header in 1979 WC final is more iconic than any of Messi goals. This is what they shown my TV. What have they shown for Messi in World Cup, a man who had no World Cup history?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPzNStFGgno


Then you have the Pele round the world miss. Miss that is more iconic than any goal they have ever showed for Messi when World Cup is starting. I guess they can now show the tapin against France going forward.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzRsvCsC4c

Chaiiiii! grin take am easy on the boy.. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 11:07pm On Dec 21, 2022
popizaino:



Santi Carzola is ambidextrous, i bet he is better than zidane.
The guy logic sha...na two footedness dey make player more rounded, all the midfielders wey turn Cazorla to water carrier in Spanish NT maybe them dey use three legs..

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:18pm On Dec 21, 2022
This is the greatest banter in football history, I mean everywhere you go cr7 fan are being molested with bants. Lol

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 11:18pm On Dec 21, 2022
donstan18:

Ok, I want to troll him against Ronaldo with UCL success.

You got what? Number of trophies? Goals in finals? Knockout goals? What exactly? UCL with different clubs? UCL without Busquet? 8-2 Bayern? Getting mudded and outplayed by Mbappe each time they meet?

Infact! I no value National trophies again, can we see Ronaldo vs Messi stats in the highest club trophy ever?? undecided

Omoh see come back LMAO!!!

Chai grin grin grin grin grin grin

1 world cup>>>>>>Infinity stones

Oya see below....

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimmarlykay(m): 11:24pm On Dec 21, 2022
Phraser:


You didn't watch Pele play live, neither did you see him play in many games. What you rely on are "many Pele documentaries" and statistics (which is hardly a reliable way of gauging a footballer's ability), meaning you have no true first-hand empirical knowledge about his ability, and yet you are fully convinced he is the greatest footballer of all time?

Doesn't seem like sound reasoning to me. (At any rate, you are in the minority. Most people choose Messi).

That aside, you said all the "euphoria" around Messi would die down in ten years time. I don't think any right-minded person believes that. Have you seen the man's digital footprint and cultural influence?

If anything, it's Pele's legacy that's at stake—maybe that's why he keeps tinkering with his records on his Instagram page, aware that the world is moving on. The likes of Messi and CR7 were lucky to have played in the social media era, and there are billions of clips of them online, unlike Pele whose legacy is solely hinged on word of mouth. 50 more years or so and no one would bother about a player that played in the black-and-white era.

Seems to me like Pele was your football hero growing up and you are stubbornly clinging to the past, because I have read your comments on this thread and have not seen any good arguments from you to back up your claims.

Ibeme can't be above 50, hence he never watched Pele play only clips which mostly tells good side of a story. No disrespect to Pele, i watched few clips of him and trust me Pele was the originator most of the skills we see today Pele did.But as it stands now Messi is the new Pele believe me you.


His reasoning is one sided and flawed. A jealous Pele/fan's changing goal stat is already a red flag.

I don't know Pele but i know Messi and believe me you,Messi has trounced almost all Pele's footballing
achievements.

Pele's football legacy is truly at stake and even Pele himself know these, reason he envy's Messi.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 11:25pm On Dec 21, 2022
oliverano:


Omoh see come back LMAO!!!

Chai grin grin grin grin grin grin

1 world cup>>>>>>Infinity stones

Oya see below....

Haven't you noticed that there are some people who are not man enough to have their own minds and stay on a lane. Anything Ibeme points at, they follow. If Ibeme says Yakubu is better than Messi, they'll asslick him immediately.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 11:36pm On Dec 21, 2022
forgiveness:
Pele worked for all his goals. No bi one person wey dem dey feed pass for Barcelona tap in we dey here oooo. angry grin


Dem Dey feed am pass ,but e get most assist for the team and the most creative player

At this point you need a piers Morgan to back up your trash

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 11:43pm On Dec 21, 2022
Debroslink:


Haven't you noticed that there are some people who are not man enough to have their own minds and stay on a lane. Anything Ibeme points at, they follow. If Ibeme says Yakubu is better than Messi, they'll asslick him immediately.

bingo! grin, Wonder when someone will point it out, seriously that is so high school stuff grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimmarlykay(m): 11:52pm On Dec 21, 2022
Emi is GOATED. kiss

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:01am On Dec 22, 2022
Bimmarlykay:


Ibeme can't be above 50, hence he never watched Pele play only clips which mostly tells good side of a story. No disrespect to Pele, i watched few clips of him and trust me Pele was the originator most of the skills we see today Pele did.But as it stands now Messi is the new Pele believe me you.

I am far from that age. I have many seniors on here. 1994 was the first time I watched football with my senses of what I was watching, though I watched 1993 Under-17, 1992 Nations Cup and parts of 1990 WC without my full senses. So you can guess my age approximately

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