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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 8:16am On Dec 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: You first said people who will vote LP will most likely vote LP throughout. But then said you personally will vote LP in presidential election but then vote APC in gubernatorial election, and any other party for the other elections. Why do you think other people won’t vote like you? This thing is not adding up. People need to differentiate between what they want to happen, and what is likely to happen. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 8:20am On Dec 23, 2022 |
izzou: Ahbi now. Nah the name the slowpoke's loyalists call him nah. Imagine fah! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:29am On Dec 23, 2022 |
reccy: You are always using the word "WE", and that sounds funny to me Unless you are a party man, or you are benefiting from the system, there is no "WE", IMO Nigeria's problem is similar. Don't ask what they want to do; just vote. But then, carry on. I have always known Kogi to be a very underdeveloped place (no offence abeg), but i hope to see it change in my lifetime. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:30am On Dec 23, 2022 |
afrodoc2: Same Lagos in 2019 Presidential Buhari - 580,825 Atiku - 448,015 Governorship Sanwo-Olu - 739,445 Jimi Agbaje - 206,141 Sanwo-Olu was an unknown going against a "veteran customer dada ni" Agbaje yet won with over 500k votes. You will see the other some people analyse election and you just burst out laughing. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 8:32am On Dec 23, 2022 |
afrodoc2:I said will most likely vote, also not every Obidients understand politics like i do. I don't do follow the crowd anymore, i vote for a candidate i believe will serve well at any level. In 2015 i voted for Buhari and Jimi Agbaje, in 2019 i voted for Fela Durotoye and Sanwo-Olu. I have been voting my party candidate until 2015, i voted for Agbaje cos i didn't like how Tinubu imposed Ambode on the party instead of Obafemi Hamzat. People who will vote for Obi, will most likely tumb print for LP in all the ballot papers.... |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 8:35am On Dec 23, 2022 |
izzou: Imagine praising Yahaya Bello to troll Obi. Even Tinubu wouldn't want to be associated with the misgovernance of Yahaya in Kogi. BAT has shied away from associating with him in many ways. The height of Stockholm Syndrome praising Yahaya Bello. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 8:41am On Dec 23, 2022 |
nihilistjnr: Obi and Tinubu aside, get your contacts to invest in tech founders' ideas and their startups in Nigeria. Or help facilitate their access to startup incubation and funding programmes. Just one call to your contacts in Lagos would give you a spreadsheet of some of these guys doing amazing things with tech. Y-Combinator can't serve everyone. And LAN isn't enough. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 8:42am On Dec 23, 2022 |
DissTroy: That nigga a clown. Crazy how he feels he's qualified to call Obi a "slowpoke" 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 8:50am On Dec 23, 2022 |
larride: Wishful thinking is not magic. You can’t wish a voting pattern into existence. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 9:00am On Dec 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: You saw what larride posted about the 2019 elections in Lagos? You can also check the 2019 presidential elections and 2020 gubernatorial elections in Ondo state. Your mindset is not special. People (both those knowledgeable and those ignorant about politics) have been splitting their votes for ages. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 9:02am On Dec 23, 2022 |
izzou: Bro, I need to ask " HOW"? At least, if they can't provide answer to that I can find solace in their track records............ But then, carry on. I have always known Kogi to be a very underdeveloped place (no offence abeg), but i hope to see it change in my lifetime This one is visible to the eyes now. I know this since I was 2 years. Everybody knows this and wonder why? Well the case of kogi state is similar to that of Nigeria in general - forced marriage. Where we have one region thinking Governance is their birthright and successfully turned the state to an eyesore then miraculously, the power changed to the other side and it became worse then we have the last region that have only governed for 3 days or so. It is a case of forced marriage where everybody votes base on tribe and whoever gets the opportunity chop and clean mouth. Well, we hope we overcome this soon and get to elect a credible leader based on track records. Kogiforrenewedhope! 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 9:11am On Dec 23, 2022 |
DissTroy:someone is reading my message upside down. Please show me where I praised Yeye Bello to troll Obi? 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 9:12am On Dec 23, 2022 |
DeadPresidents: and this one reading my message with his brain away. Awon werey.. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 9:38am On Dec 23, 2022 |
Head-to-Head despite the obvious failure of "The White Lion" he's better than Peter Obi when it comes governance. He has legacy projects to show despite the lean resources and the dangerous situation he met the state on assumption of office. 3 Reference Hospitals across the 3Senatorial districts, several kilometres of roads reconstructed across the state, he tamed ASUU in Kogi State University, initiated Confluence University of Science And Technology, Osara, Omi Rice Mill, presently there's a PPP arrangement to build a Cement plant by Dahiru Mangal company (the name escaped my memory). He was able to keep bandits and kidnappers at bay by investing in security architecture and recruiting locals as vigilantes alongside hunters to comb the bushes and forest across the entire stretch of the state; this is a state bordering about 10 or so states including the FCT and the 13th largest in terms of landmass, this is a state that almost as big as the entire SE region. He won the best Governor on security, you can verify this claim. However, his legacy will forever be tainted by the issue of nonpayment/underpayment of salaries which he's partly responsible for. Since 1999 Kogi civil servants have had to deal with poor working conditions with the only exception being the administration of Gov Ibrahim Idris between 2003-2011, during the time of late Prince Audu workers in the state are paid using what they refer to as satanic chart and pensioners were called dead woods. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bimffo(m): 9:44am On Dec 23, 2022 |
raumdeuter: What did Teslim do? ![]() ![]() Ajimobi dealt a big blow to the APC structure in Oyo state and it is still having effect after his death. Maybe if he was still alive, he would have corrected some mistakes. The structure I am with right now have come out to say they are for Atiku, but the game they are playing is to try all their best not to go against Tinubu because a Tinubu that can walk can have influence in any election in Southwest. It is the truth and I am not shying away from it. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bimffo(m): 9:54am On Dec 23, 2022 |
Amoto94: ![]() ![]() ![]() White Lion. ![]() ![]() ![]() A Governor that opened his eyes for Bandits to take over the Lokoja-abuja highway. Someone that spent the money provided to battle covid-19, and till today we don't know where the money is. Even though I cannot confirm if he is better than PO as a Governor, you people need to stop the hype of that Lugard house tenant. He has not done anything tangible and he has deceived us with media propaganda. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 10:13am On Dec 23, 2022 |
When Shekau-lite who represents everything uncivilised agrees with you, you should be worried. Really worried. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 10:20am On Dec 23, 2022 |
afrodoc2:Yet we don't see ruling and opposition candidates winning Election in many States? I don't care what he posted, I gave a narratives of how me i will vote in 2023. From my interaction with friends, colleague, plus with what i read on social media, a lot of Obidients will not be voting for any APC candidates next year. You can't tell an illiterate person either in the South or North to vote two different Party on the same day of election, they will simply thumb print the same Party logo on all Ballot papers and leave. If ballot paper carries pictures of candidate, that would have made it easier for them to vote their choice candidate (if they had any). Lagosians have been electing Tinubu's Party candidates, until 2015 and 2019, cos some Lagos residents who hated Buhari decided to vote for Jonathan and PDP all through. February is near, i am no soothsayer to know who will win but i know most people won't vote any APC candidates and vice versa. I don stop to dey engage Party loyalist since 2019, they will always be biased in favour of their party, regardless of how useless their party has served. We saw same level of shameless arrogance from PDP party loyalist in 2015, but it ended in tears for them las las..... 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 10:34am On Dec 23, 2022 |
izzou:I agree with the bolded, but same way if PO wins, LP will most likely have won Senatorial and House of Reps seats too. Such victory can also encourage people to vote LP Candidates in State Elections too. Oghene and Obasa are still in PDP representing Amuwo Odofin and Ojo at the House of Reps, unless you are talking of Dipo, Hakeem Bello and other PDP candidate who won State House of Assembly seat but later decamp to APC and lost relevance any ways. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:35am On Dec 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: So explain to us what happened in Ondo Presidential - Atiku (PDP won) House of reps election APC won 4 seats PDP won 3 seats SDP won 2 seats Senatorial election PDP won 2 seats APC won 1 seat This election happened the same day on the same ballot. Do you want us to talk about Bauchi state also? 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 10:36am On Dec 23, 2022 |
Bimffo:Kogi has been a hotbed of criminals for a very long time in the 90s it was highway robbers terrorising motorists plying the federal highway this is due to political thuggery and large expanse of undeveloped land, I have witnessed several crises unfold before my very eyes and escaped death by the will of God. In terms of improvement in security he tried more than his predecessors. I am from Kogi lived most of my life there and I can tell you for a fact that on security he's done well compared to other states. As for the Covid money there is an isolation centre and some of the equipments bought were vandalised by criminals which lead to the erstwhile Commissioner of Health crying during an interview with reporters, I also mentioned that there are reference hospitals built across the 3 Senatorial districts. His failure is largely the issue of nonpayment/underpayment of salaries, which is quite a touchy and complex issue. The state and local governments are operating a joint account and the account was used to obtain a loan which lead to meagre amount left for the state and LGs to operate with. As at 2014-2015 civil servants are paid in percentage, on assumption of office his administration decided to embark on a screening to reduce the overbloated wage bill the screening ended up being a mess, the officials while they paused payments of salaries during the screening they were feeding fat on bailout loans and Paris Refund meant for the affected people. Though those cleared were paid including arrears in some cases but afterwards they were getting paid in percentage due to shortfall in revenue. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bimffo(m): 10:37am On Dec 23, 2022 |
So we currently have 8 LP HORs. So I am going to break down the 8 members. Parties they defected from and I will also state members that have left LP as HORs. 1) Darlington Nwokocha from Abia. Defected from PDP on the 2nd of June 2022. 2) Kpam Sokpo from Benue. Defected from PDP on 2nd of July 2022. 3) Mark Gbillah from Benue. Defected from PDP in July 2022. 4) Herman Hembe from Benue. Defected from APC in June 2022. 5) Daniel Asuoque from Cross River. Defected from PDP in July 2022. 6) Dennis Amandi from Enugu. Defected from PDP in August 2022. 7) Pascal Obi from Imo State. Defected from Action Aliance to APC then to PDP before getting to LP in August 2022. 8 ) Jide Olatunbonsun from Oyo state. Defected from APC in July 2022. Facts We have 2 HORs that have Defected to other parties and LP only won 1 seat in 2019. And the HOR has defected to APC. Now let's look at the HORs that Defected. All of them defected because the couldn't secure a return ticket from their former party. All of them defected after party primary election or around the time and the people of their constituency rejected them. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 10:38am On Dec 23, 2022 |
larride:What is so difficult in understanding the phrase( most likely vote for )? I didn't say they will vote LP definitely, i even gave a narrative of Lagos in 2015 and how i intend to vote next year. Show us result of Rivers, Delta, Kano, Katsina, Bayelsa, Zamfara and many other State. I don't see how that phrase is an issue to be honest, it was an assumption and not definite statement. I am not saying people don't split votes in Election, but majority voters expecially the illiterates (no abuse intended) don't split votes and that is fact. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 10:44am On Dec 23, 2022 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 10:44am On Dec 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: I wasn’t talking about just APC. What about PDP? People have been splitting their votes for years. Being literate or illiterate has nothing to do with it. Unless only literate Nigerians were voting all those years. These are facts that do not care about your emotions or wishful thinking. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 10:45am On Dec 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp: The koko is that voters are capable of easily voting for different candidate on the same ballot. The evidence abound. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 10:54am On Dec 23, 2022 |
afrodoc2:I agree but seriously how many Market women, bus drivers, artisans really split their votes? How many Almajiri Northerners split their votes? Majority of State have been electing their Party candidates in all positions, leaving nothing for opposition, bar some few States in the SouthWest mostly. People split votes in States like Rivers, Delta, Bayelsa, Kano, Katsina and Many more, but the final results doesn't show it. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 10:59am On Dec 23, 2022 |
larride:Are child voters in the North (Almajiri's) capable of voting different candidate on a ballot? Many people in that part of the country vote for whoever they are told to vote for and that is fact. Split votes works in mostly SouthWest State... 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 11:11am On Dec 23, 2022 |
TrebleChamp:Wasn't not in Kano that APC nearly lost the Gubernatorial election to PDP before they rigged massively for Ganduje? In Kaduna 1 of the 3 Senators is from PDP. This has negated your of saying almajiri voters don't vote differently |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 11:20am On Dec 23, 2022 |
I was a party man until 2016, i was part of the staff that organised the 2014 Presidential Party primary Election. On that night at Teslim Balogun Stadium, i made ₦1.3m from people who wanted to enter delegate list my fire by force. I was in Osun State in same 2014 to capture delegate for the Primary Election, i and my colleague met Governor Aregbesola at Government House and all his cabinet members. All Senators and House of Rep members from the State including party people like Adeboye Onigbinde (former Super Eagles Technical Adviser). The Capturing was done at Prince Famodun (APC State Party Chairman's) residence, cos their was war at the Party Secretariat over the State Primary election result outcome. I was in Osogbo for 5 days and the State paid for our hotel and assigned a Prado SUV to us for movement to places like Ede to capture Senator Isiaka Adeleke who could not come to Osogbo, and i made plenty money their too. I am saying this so people who were in Osogbo can confirm some of my Statement or debunk it. It was the same period that Osun State Election Petition Tribunal was to deliver its judgement, so the State was politically tensed. I don make money as a party man, and i have no regret leaving APC.... 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 11:35am On Dec 23, 2022 |
Bimffo:it is defected. This deflected dey sound somehow for ear. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 11:37am On Dec 23, 2022 |
A party man seeking redemption, how poetic. When it was favouring you, there's no harm done but when you lost in the power tussle then you want to pitch your tent in the labourers camp. Save us the talk of wanting a change, the only people here who have shown high level of integrity in their partial and impartial support for the labourers camp are Disstroy and Blueyraydick even though I disagree with them I salute their principle they're people of conviction with skin in the game. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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