Napata77:
1. I believe in the Divine, or the Source, or Creator, and I speak to him/her, because I know there is more to life than our 5 sense reality reveals.

2. I choose not to be in a religion, as I see no need for it. But for those who DO decide to be religious, they owe it as a responsibility to society to not disrupt our peace by making outrageous claims about their religious exclusiveness and the hell-bound destiny of non-converts.

1. So you already access your divine without inhibition? So what do you mean by saying the religious folks invalidate your access to your divine?

2. You are not religious but you think it your place to mind the business of the religious? If they disrupt society then shouldn't you report them to the police if crime is committed by them then?

Kobojunkiee:
1. So you already access your divine without inhibition? So what do you mean by saying the religious folks invalidate your access to your divine?

My words were: ''They are invalidating all other cultural approaches to engaging the Divine, save theirs.''

Do you know what to invalidate means?

2. You are not religious but you think it your place to mind the business of the religious? If they disrupt society then shouldn't you report them to the police if crime is committed by them then?

How old are you?

You think this is about crime and the police?

I think I'm done with you.

Napata77:
1. My words were: ''They are invalidating all other cultural approaches to engaging the Divine, save theirs.'' Do you know what to invalidate means?

2. How old are you? You think this is about crime and the police? I think I'm done with you.

1. What I don't understand is how they invalidate all these other cultural approaches to accessing your divine by their preaching. Are you of the mind that their beliefs are factual or what? .

2. If no crime has been committed by them then why do you accuse them to be barbaric in their beliefs?

The day of judgement has nothing to do with religion because by then all the earth will be a family under one organization practicing the same faith so each person will be judged based on his/her deeds not religion! Revelations 20:13

Prophets are humans sent to warn people about the things God will not permit when death, OLDAGE and sickness is no more.
So before that time each person needs to try all he could to get closer to God and do away with bad behaviours. Luke 13:24

What role will Jesus play in all of these?
Jesus is one of God's Spirit sons (angels) in heaven {Job 38:7} out of all the angels he is the only one God created directly {Proverbs 8:22} and he worked with his father during the creation of all other things {Proverbs 8:30; John 1:2; Colossians 1:15-16} but out of all the things God used this mighty spirit being to create Jesus loves man the most! Proverbs 8:31

So after man's fall in the garden of Eden the need for a perfect human to save mankind arises {Genesis 3:15} no descendant of Adam can take up this task {Psalms 49:7-9; Romans 3:23} that's why an angel is needed to do it and since Jesus already love humans so much he surrendered himself for the huge task after all it's just to put on human flesh, set up a model for obedient mankind to follow and die a sacrificial death which will cleanse all obedient humans from Adamic sin and afterwards he may return to his spirit life again.
God vowed in His anger that since Jesus the only heir to all His properties surrendered himself to go and save mankind whoever turn a deaf ear to Jesus' teachings will not be shown any mercy such a person is doomed. John 3:16-18
As the heir to all God's properties who humbled himself to take up the task of a slave Jesus was given all the authority both in heaven and on earth {Matthew 28:18} so soon he will remove all human governments {Daniel 2:44} and kill all disobedient humans {Luke 19:27} after which he will give his disciples the support they need to preach and teach all those who must hear these good news when he raise up all faithful servants of God of ancient times (RIGHTEOUS) and people who never heard of God's standard but lived their lives by conscience (UNRIGHTEOUS) Act 24:15

For 1,000 years a global educational program will ensue through which all inhabitants of the earth will become perfect and it's all about the perfect role model Jesus set when he walked on earth! Revelations 20:1-6

So Jesus is going to play a vital role in the salvation of OBEDIENT mankind that's why the scriptures told us to seek righteousness and meekness {Zephaniah 2:3} because only the meek mill benefits from God's salvation plan and live forever in Paradise on earth! Matthew 5:5 compare to Psalms 37:9-11; 29

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

Kobojunkiee:
By this,I take it to mean that you suppose that you have said something substantive here?

As irritating as it is to watch the religiously gullible folks around here, it is also irritating to watch equally ignorant non-religious zealots who come by often to attack them.

why do you always want to teach every1 when u urself is in great error and blindness...remove the beam in ur eyes first cos you are a blind man

It is a lie! Jesus Christ is instead the Truth of God! It is a lie! Jesus Christ is instead the Truth of God! ...

bobestman:
why do you always want to teach every1 when u urself is in great error and blindness...remove the beam in ur eyes first cos you are a blind man

isn't the blind man where it comes to belief the one who can't clearly express whatever it is he claims to believe him without putting his foot in his mouth everytime he makes an attempt to explain his belief, that is?

Kobojunkiee:
isn't the blind man where it comes to belief the one who can't clearly express whatever it is he claims to believe him without putting his foot in his mouth everytime he makes an attempt to explain his belief, that is?

teach what you know and leave others to what know. Every1 has their truth and errors. God is not interested in any religion. All are hogwash to him with their many lies and abomination. He shall make a statement 4 all to know him and the son psalm 2. Rejecting them is what brings wrath. Your religion, bible, doctrines etc are full of errors cos they are works of men. A statement must be made 4 all to know the truth that set free. What many know is the lie. He is right. Other religions will follow what they believe untill shiloh comes to make it clear and show the right way. All are in blindness till that day for all are in sin and their is no one righteous bf the father

bobestman:
teach what you know and leave others to what know. Every1 has their truth and errors. God is not interested in any religion. All are hogwash to him with their many lies and abomination. He shall make a statement 4 all to know him and the son psalm 2. Rejecting them is what brings wrath. Your religion, bible, doctrines etc are full of errors cos they are works of men. A statement must be made 4 all to know the truth that set free. What many know is the lie. He is right. Other religions will follow what they believe untill shiloh comes to make it clear and show the right way. All are in blindness till that day for all are in sin and their is no one righteous bf the father

Again.... isn't the blind man where it comes to belief the one who can't clearly express whatever it is he claims to believe him without putting his foot in his mouth everytime he makes an attempt to explain his belief, that is?

Kobojunkiee:
Again.... isn't the blind man where it comes to belief the one who can't clearly express whatever it is he claims to believe him without putting his foot in his mouth everytime he makes an attempt to explain his belief, that is?

You can believe a lie and be bold in expressing it, that is what u all do here, that is not knowledge for truth speaks in silence and riddles, only the pure will see and understand. Continue ur iberebe

bobestman:
You can believe a lie and be bold in expressing it, that is what u all do here, that is not knowledge for truth speaks in silence and riddles, only the pure will see and understand. Continue ur iberebe

Again.. isn't the blind man where it comes to belief the one who can't clearly express whatever it is he claims to believe him without putting his foot in his mouth everytime he makes an attempt to explain his belief, that is?

Fairy Tales
Hellfire us a fictional place in that exist in delusional minds, I refused to be threatened by this bullsht

OgaNightmare:
Fairy Tales
Hellfire us a fictional place in that exist in delusional minds, I refused to be threatened by this bullsht

Go and tell all your friends what Jehovah's Witnesses told you about the fictional HellFire then come back and start criticizing those that opened your eyes to the empty threat of Hellfire!

Jamestaiwo:
"Nobody goes to hell for sinning, you only go to hell for rejecting Jesus."

— Apostle Joshua Selman.


Click the link below to watch the Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arhJlZweCC8

Hmm, what he said is in context which many don't understand.
There is a principle of Sin which is the root cause of the many sins we commit. when the principle of Sin is dealt with which is the original sin, then the many sins wouldn't be an issue cause we will stop committing them as we have anew nature when we accept Christ sincerely (Emphasis mine)
But for those who run after knowledge without encounter, the many sins committed is still an issue cos they deny Christ with their sinful nature which invariable leads to Hell.

NB. To put it straight, denying Christ is not just by speech alone but also action, so by extension even the many sins committed can lead to Hell.

Stay blessed and remain rapturable

MaxInDHouse:


Go and tell all your friends what Jehovah's Witnesses told you about the fictional HellFire then come back and start criticizing those that opened your eyes to the empty threat of Hellfire!

Oga rest, Christadelpians, SDA and a host of others do not each Hellfire.
You better thank SDA, cus the forerunner of JW was a firm believer in eternal torment that he even had to go around with chalk writing how people will roast in hell
Untill he met Adventist preacher, Jonas Wendell..........
This is the age of critical thinking
Any sane adult that believes in a afterlife of pain and suffering in a fiery place is indulging in self-delusion.
Matter of fact I'm stripping off every bit of religious indoctrination, Science so far has freed a lot of people from superstition.

ChinemeremFidel:
This is the truth

It's an overstatement.

Those who have accepted Jesus and commit sins worthy of judgment will also go to hell if they do not repent of it.

There are too many scriptures pointing to that.

OgaNightmare:

Oga rest, Christadelpians, SDA and a host of others do not each Hellfire.
You better thank SDA, cus the forerunner of JW was a firm believer in eternal torment that he even had to go around with chalk writing how people will roast in hell
Untill he met Adventist preacher, Jonas Wendell..........
This is the age of critical thinking
Any sane adult that believes in a afterlife of pain and suffering in a fiery place is indulging in self-delusion.
Matter of fact I'm stripping off every bit of religious indoctrination, Science so far has freed a lot of people from superstition.

The highlighted is a lie!

Meanwhile it's JWs that's preaching zealously against hellfire that's why most churchgoers hate us!

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is a lie!

Meanwhile it's JWs that's preaching zealously against hellfire that's why most churchgoers hate us!

You don't know your History bro, sorry
C.T Russell was raised a Calvinist in the Presbyterian Church, he was a firm believer in eternal torment before pastor Wendel changed his mind

Watch OUT OF DARKNESS PART 1
And Russell's Autobiography.
Also check THE PROCLAIMERS BOOK

Kobojunkie:
See Foolishness! These rats are always attempting to skew the narrative in order to keep the gullible thoroughly deceived.

Jesus Christ said those who love Him are those who obey His commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 - and His friends are those who do as He says - John 15 vs 14. What this means is that anyone who claims to love Jesus Christ and is born-again as a result, but chooses to disobey Jesus Christ's teachings and commandments does not love Jesus Christ, and is hence an enemy of Jesus Christ. Sin, as explained by Jesus Christ is disobedience of His teachings and commandments. So clearly, those who live in sin, are not of Him and make themselves His enemy by their sins; they are those who are bound for hell in the Kingdom of God.

Point of Correction. No believer can live in Sin.
Living in Sin means Christ's death is futile. Cos the Death of Christ has destroyed the Nature of Sin. So living in Sin is impossible for believer.

However, By Implication that Sin Nature is disarmed and Destroyed forever, The Act of Sin exists due to unavailability to renew the mind.

The Act of Sin reduces in Man as long as He feed and being taught by the Word of God.

There is no A Man that doesn't sin, but because we believed in Christ. We are Righteous in Christ.

Once you accepted Christ, you are Saved
John 3:16
[16]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

What do you understand by Everlasting Life?

As Man renew is mind, he gets rid of act of sin.
2 Corinthians 3:18
[18]But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Napata77:


Think like a grown-up.

''My ideas'' are about religious tolerance, and ending the stupidity of thinking there is only one 'right way' to observe religion in a multicultural world.

It is that stupidity, practiced principally by christianity and islam, that has led to so much death, hatred and strife on the Earth, so it's a DAMN GOOD IDEA TO ditch it.

What you said here is Meaningless.

You are just contradicting the scripture.

There is no bases to chat with you cos you are an agnostic.

OgaNightmare:

You don't know your History bro, sorry
C.T Russell was raised a Calvinist in the Presbyterian Church, he was a firm believer in eternal torment before pastor Wendel changed his mind

Watch OUT OF DARKNESS PART 1
And Russell's Autobiography.
Also check THE PROCLAIMERS BOOK

Go and read his story and stop deceiving yourself!

He stopped attending church after his mother's death and all the priest could say is "God took her"

Jamestaiwo:
1. Point of Correction. No believer can live in Sin.
2. Living in Sin means Christ's death is futile. Cos the Death of Christ has destroyed the Nature of Sin. So living in Sin is impossible for believer.

3. However, By Implication that Sin Nature is disarmed and Destroyed forever, The Act of Sin exists due to unavailability to renew the mind.The Act of Sin reduces in Man as long as He feed and being taught by the Word of God.

4. There is no A Man that doesn't sin, but because we believed in Christ. We are Righteous in Christ.

5. Once you accepted Christ, you are Saved. What do you understand by Everlasting Life?

1. That happens to be a special lie that your false prophets and false teachers feed you in order to keep you blind to God's Truth. According to Jesus Christ, those who become born-again gain access to the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1-8 -either through the broad gate which leads to destruction(eternal damnation)or through the narrow gate which leads to true life(eternal reward) - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30 - meaning that all of those who will end up condemned by Jesus Christ when He returns and judges His flock - the sheep and goats - are all of them born again - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. That is, everyone who will end up condemned by Jesus Christ to eternal damnation also believes in Jesus Christ and is also born-again, the only way to enter into the Kingdom of God where eternal damnation is a possible fate. Pay attention to the fact that this here is as declared by the one who is King and Law, in the Kingdom of God, Himself.

2. All that na meaningless soundbites wey your pastors and mogs feed you in order to sweeten their lies. Jesus Christ instead said, "No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down, and I have authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.” What that means is His death is His own and His choice which He made of His own.

3. Yet more meaningless soundbites! Look, sin simply means disobedience of God's direct commandments.

4. God's commandments aren't unlimited in number so it is very much possible to not disobey the limited commandments and teaching. What this means is when God said to the Israelites of Old, "Be ye holy, for I the Lord am Holy", God was not being dubious by His command to His people. The same thing when Jesus Christ commanded, "Be ye Holy even as your Father in Heaven is Holy", Jesus Christ was not given to His followers the impossible but that which is not only possible but has already been accomplished by Him, the Helper to those who belong to Him. So when you say it is impossible for a man not to sin against God, not only do you perpetuate the delusions of the ones who feed you these lies, but you also admit that you willingly abide in Sin against the Almighty somehow expecting Him to turn a blind eye to your willful sins against Him.

5. Jesus Christ never said you are saved once you accept Him. On the contrary, He declared that only those who stand faithful --- those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to HIs teachings and commandments --- will be saved at the end - Matthew 24 vs 12 - 13 & Mark 13 vs 13 . So, are you insinuating that Jesus Christ lied to you and that you are instead only saved when you accept Him at the beginning?

P.S. those who will be damned to eternal damnation by Jesus Christ also have eternal life which you claim there. Jesus Christ clearly explained that eternal life simply saves you from God's curse of death - John 3 vs 16. He never said it, eternal life aka grace saves you from God's judgment of those who are in the Kingdom of God.

Kobojunkie:
That is a lie fed to you by these lying men you call pastors and mogs. The greatest sin isn't rejecting Jesus Christ. First of all, Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear in His teachings that not everyone can have him, to begin with, so rejecting Him-- refusing to believe in Jesus Christ - is not a sin.

Really? Please provide evidence for all you said in the Bible

Ekrenji:

Really? Please provide evidence for all you said in the Bible

Jesus Christ never taught His followers that there exists a greatest sin to begin with. There is an unforgivable sin but not a greatest sin.

MaxInDHouse:

Go and read his story and stop deceiving yourself!

He stopped attending church after his mother's death and all the priest could say is "God took her"

Don't mind the ignoramus
He is referring to another video that only he himself knows cos I've watched that video several times

Kobojunkiee:
Jesus Christ never taught His followers that there exists a greatest sin to begin with. There is an unforgivable sin but not a greatest sin.

Isn’t an unforgivable sin the greatest sin?

What other sin can be greater than an unforgivable sin?

Ekrenji:

Isn’t an unforgivable sin the greatest sin?

What other sin can be greater than an unforgivable sin?

The unforgivable sin is not born of rejection of Jesus Christ as He, Jesus Christ made clear to His followers.

Kobojunkiee:
The unforgivable sin is not born of rejection of Jesus Christ as He, Jesus Christ made clear to His followers.

What other sin can be greater than an unforgivable sin?

Ekrenji:
What other sin can be greater than an unforgivable sin?

Again, there is no such thing as the greatest sin because all sins lead to the same end —an eternal life to be spent in eternal damnation. The unforgivable sin is instead sin that denies one God's forgiveness but the end for all who live in sin is the same.

JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH IS A MUST!!!

SilasIBB:
JESUS CHRIST OF NAZARETH IS A MUST!!!

Not according to Jesus Christ.