knowingChrist:

Good day mr Max. Nice of you to join this convo. However, kindly speak without spite pls. This part of your reply is false. Many people know the truth and fellowship without fear. Are you saying every Jehovah witness is saved? Salvation is not by association but personal.
Thank you btw. Lets discuss more openly pls

Prosper1912:


If u say that part of his reply is false,can u pls prove it.

MaxInDHouse:



Just as nobody can gain salvation except through Jesus but some of Jesus' disciples like Judas Iscariot lost their chances the same still applies today [b]there's only one organization through which we can gain salvation today [/b]but it's not all those attending our meetings will be saved.

Thank you!

knowingChrist:

What organisation might that be?

Prosper1912:


No problem

MaxInDHouse:


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION!

knowingChrist:

I poised to think you believe this - what pity! May the Lord help you Sir.

sonmvayina:
What if the Vatican decides to open their secret archives and allow researchers in...

And they found all the document from the council of Nicea up to the second Vatican council, and they show that Jesus Christ was created at the council of Ephasius and that before then the Christ was Serapis......
And it shows how the church fought to hide these facts from the common people..and how the new testament where forged
And why they added it at the end of the Jewish scriptures..

Would you still believe in Jesus.

MaxInDHouse:


The Vatican has nothing to do with Christianity!

MaxInDHouse:


But do you believe that a first century Jewish carpenter of about 33 years is the one and only man through whom people of all nations must be saved?

If so why not poise to think and pity those who believe this?

Because the young man only lived some 2,000 years ago and all you know about him is what was written in a book you're carrying up and down.

So what made you believe that but doubt what i just told you?

sonmvayina:

But they gave you the jesus you hold dear...

knowingChrist:

Do you really want to know why sir? Are you sure you want to hear the answer?

MaxInDHouse:
I know you don't have anything to say because all what makes you think you're a Christian is the conventional thought that once you're attending a religious service with those claiming Christians.

Well if you must know you're not a Christian until you can prove that the first century Jewish carpenter was truly the son of God not just by quoting word for word as written in the book you're carrying but by thorough explanation which can reach the heart of your listener. That's why most people claiming they are Christians apart from Jehovah's Witnesses are deceiving themselves!

knowingChrist:

Well with you as an example and with careful examination of your behavior on Nairaland, I'll say that Jehovah witness does not and cannot make anyone know Christ or understand the scripture. Your kinds blab too much to be taken serious so I'll ignore you and act as though i didn't see any topic you wanted to drive in your reply. There's no time to waste, i need to do my master's work. So come back after the trumpet to ask me this questions ok? Have a good life sir.

MaxInDHouse:


There's no need to ignore because i know you are not a worshiper of my own God so continue with your fellow worshipers.

Thanks for your time!

knowingChrist:


There's a difference between the word "believe" and the phrase "believe in". Just as there's a difference between "hearing" and "hearing by"

In syntheic languages, these words are pronounced but differently, but many are deceived with modern day English language bc its analytic and conveys the words very discretely. So, people who do not understand English language are deluded with ridiculous beliefs but those who have the spirit are taught enhlish language so they understand the message.

I do not "believe" jesus, i have "believed in" Jesus. The reason i know that this person called jesus is the only person that will save all is bc i have "believed in" him.

I'll advise you or anyone looking to go learn the differnece between "believe" and "believe in" so that you can see why I'm following Jesus.

Thank you.

MaxInDHouse:


But do you believe that a first century Jewish carpenter of about 33 years is the one and only man through whom people of all nations must be saved?

If so why not poise to think and pity those who believe this?

Because the young man only lived some 2,000 years ago and all you know about him is what was written in a book you're carrying up and down.

So what made you believe that but doubt what i just told you?

knowingChrist:


Well with you as an example and with careful examination of your behavior on Nairaland, I'll say that Jehovah witness does not and cannot make anyone know Christ or understand the scripture.

Your kinds blab too much to be taken serious so I'll ignore you and act as though i didn't see any topic you wanted to drive in your reply. There's no time to waste, i need to do my master's work. So come back after the trumpet to ask me this questions ok? Have a good life sir.

Nelidee:


This is where you would have ended the discussion. Very beautiful write-up. You psychoanalysed the guy and as for the bolded, 100% fact. The good news is God is pulling those that belong to him out of that masonic organisation.

knowingChrist:


I don't think it's the organisation. There's no single organisation where the truth is being preached; they've all gone astray.

There are denominational spirits controlling the different kinds of church. Each person who desires to know the truth must see beyond the denominations. For the denominational spirit seek to enslave people through separation and common sense. I like to think that there are actually saved Christians in Jehovah witness bc you can't tell where God has hidden his people.

I just hope Mr max overcomes the denominational spirit that makes him think Johovah witness is the only portal for salvation and not the truth of the gospel.

So dear friend, i think salvation is a personal walk and it's wise not to enter into denominational warfare or talk bad about any denomination. My other comment was based on Mr Max's observed behavior on here. It will definitely change when i find another Jehovah witness member who understands Christ.

MaxInDHouse:


But do you believe that a first century Jewish carpenter of about 33 years is the one and only man through whom people of all nations must be saved?

If so why not poise to think and pity those who believe this?

Because the young man only lived some 2,000 years ago and all you know about him is what was written in a book you're carrying up and down.

So what made you believe that but doubt what i just told you?

MaxInDHouse:


Behold the questions:



As for JWs you can never ever find throughout the whole earth that will agree with your own type of Jesus!

sonmvayina:

You know why that is so...?
Because the new testament is so ambiguous..
That tells you it has nothing to do with God...

knowingChrist:


I don't think it's the organisation. There's no single organisation where the truth is being preached; they've all gone astray.

There are denominational spirits controlling the different kinds of church. Each person who desires to know the truth must see beyond the denominations. For the denominational spirit seek to enslave people through separation and common sense. I like to think that there are actually saved Christians in Jehovah witness bc you can't tell where God has hidden his people.

I just hope Mr max overcomes the denominational spirit that makes him think Johovah witness is the only portal for salvation and not the truth of the gospel.

So dear friend, i think salvation is a personal walk and it's wise not to enter into denominational warfare or talk bad about any denomination. My other comment was based on Mr Max's observed behavior on here. It will definitely change when i find another Jehovah witness member who understands Christ.

Nelidee:


We are saying the same thing brother. Salvation is personal. It has nothing to do with belonging to any group or denomination or organisation.

I grew up in a JW home so I literally understand everything about Jehovah's witnesses. There's no way a witness will listen or understand a thing you are preaching to them because they render exclusive devotion to the organisation first and then God second.

If the organisation tells them today to stop preaching they will obey that command as if it came from God. My point is they listen to the organisation rather than listen to God through his word the bible.

The only way a witness can listen and understand any explanation from you is by first leaving the organisation that brainwashes them and tells them that they are God's mouthpiece and the only means by which they can be saved.

knowingChrist:


Like i said, it's not wise to discus certain establishment. I believe God has his own people everywhere irrespective of the establishment just like the time where all israel was lost yet some remained faithful. Its not about Johovah witness or catholic or Redeemed, its about christ and we should talk only christ.

Those who are trapped in denominationism are enslaved by the spirit of the denomination. We should preach Christ not establishment. If we're preaching Christ then lets not mention any establishments pls.

Thank you btw. You can follow my youtube and twitter pages. I have more important teaching session coming up soon.

Prosper1912:
the organization is just like a moving train heading to a destination, so the moment u are out u can keep up with it.

Nelidee:


You misunderstood me. Am not saying he should leave JW to become any of what you mentioned above.

I don't attend any present day church myself. I sit down in my house and discuss the bible with people in my household. If there's any correction or understanding that I need to learn I do research and prayerfully make a decision.

My point on JW organisation is this...

Don’t team up with those who are unbelievers. How can righteousness be a partner with wickedness? How can light live with darkness? 2 Corinthians 6:14.

If the JW organisation twists and water-down Gods word the bible, then a true believer in Christ should have no business with such an organisation. Like I said I grew up in a JW home so I know alot of what they teach that is not only wrong but blasphemous. A true believer in Christ should have no dealings with a blasphemous organisation, denomination or group.

Yeah, sure. I'll check your channel out...your welcome.

Prosper1912:
Nilidee prove that jw twist the bible.