izzou:


If a determined president cannot fix Nigeria, what exactly will fix it?

Itsrm:


Wow, that's a really good one.

ShaqFu:
We the people. When we put aside our petty and nonsense difference and decide for ourselves we want a country that works, one which we and our children that will come after us will be proud of.

izzou:


If there are no laws, how do you expect anybody to put anything aside?

Any country that you admire has its citizens confined to laws. They did not wake up to put anything aside. The laws confined them to do so.

I have been trying to understand your point, and that was why i mentioned you.

If this is your opinion of a better country, it is not possible IMO, even in the US and UK

ShaqFu:
We the people. When we put aside our petty and nonsense difference and decide for ourselves we want a country that works, one which we and our children that will come after us will be proud of.

izzou:


If there are no laws, how do you expect anybody to put anything aside?

Any country that you admire has its citizens confined to laws. They did not wake up to put anything aside. The laws confined them to do so.

I have been trying to understand your point, and that was why i mentioned you.

If this is your opinion of a better country, it is not possible IMO, even in the US and UK

GloriousGbola:


Izzou is it because of laws you are not doing yahoo yahoo?

Is it because of laws you have not committed rape?

izzou:

If there are no laws, how do you expect anybody to put anything aside?

Any country that you admire has its citizens confined to laws. They did not wake up to put anything aside. The laws confined them to do so.

I have been trying to understand your point, and that was why i mentioned you.

If this is your opinion of a better country, it is not possible IMO, even in the US and UK

GloriousGbola:


Izzou is it because of laws you are not doing yahoo yahoo?

Is it because of laws you have not committed rape?

ShaqFu:
That is among the issue. Our laws are porous, easily twisted and thwarted. It is among the things that is causing problems.

I'm sure, as you are sure, the countries we admire have religious laws enshrined in their constitution?

The countries we admire, their laws are enforced, devoid of sentiment or any religious or traditional attachment. In Nigeria, it is totally different...

ShaqFu:
you still didn't say where you visited in Anambra bro. Don't deviate. State the obvious and forget about revealing too much. If you can post your picture to buttress a point, why can't you give specifics, eh?

I reiterate. Nigeria isn't China. A determined president who wants to fix this country will end up causing problems, especially with the way our constitution is.

I wonder when causing problems now translate to causing disaster. You obidient lot really like twisting people's words and giving your own interpretations.

izzou:


Many reasons, but one of them would be the time i would spend to do the crime.

It is because of laws i won't take a one way despite the heavy traffic. Remove that law, and I'll find myself on the other side

It is because of laws that I won't forget a passport to travel abroad. When did we start expecting people to behave well outside of laws in this world?

Laws are the major reasons for sanity on earth.

Remove laws, and this whole earth would be upside down in a day.

ShaqFu:
That is among the issue. Our laws are porous, easily twisted and thwarted. It is among the things that is causing problems.

The countries we admire, their laws are enforced, devoid of sentiment or any religious or traditional attachment. In Nigeria, it is totally different...

GloriousGbola:


Definitely not true since most yahoo boys in Nigeria are literally getting away with it.

Most laws and rules are put in place to protect you

You are a smart guy - there is 0 seat belt enforcement up north. Would you drive without a seat belt up north when you know that it will increase your risk in a collision?

Lasbca is in lagos to counter building collapse. Well with or without lasbca I have supervised multiple structures that did not collapse - because I don't want something my hand is in collapsing on a person's head. Or because my common sense is outweighing my greed and telling me this is what can happen.

When the synagogue collapsed tb joshua never faced consequences, though the engineers that built the place did.

izzou:

And the bolded is what a determined president needs to fix.

That is what Disstroy has been saying to you.

Laws are what makes a society sane. Isnt it funny that the Nigerian that would by-pass his prepaid meter here, would gladly pay his electricity bill in the UK?

The Nigerian that would opt for sorting lecturers here, would study hard abroad?

Did he just change overnight? Nope. He just switched to another country with laws

We saw how the protest in the US for the slain black guy turned into another End Sars (I can't remember the guy's name again)

A whole US, and people were robbing and burgling stores.

A determined president will enforce laws. When laws are enforced, people will gladly fall in line

Donjazet2:


Yahoo yahoo and rape are crimes committed all over the world. Like it's a crime present in all countries of the world because every human being has some sort of "bad quality" in them. This is still inconsequential to the quality of governance they experience in their country.

Brazil has a healthy democracy with a fairly strong economy but still has a high rate of individual crime, same with India.
What does individual crime have to do with the political system and quality of governance of a country?

You guys seem soo adept at painting Nigerians as worse than others which is why we have bad politicians. Bit that is simply not true.

Nigeria has bad politicians because a vast majority of it's population are not voter educated. And by that I mean that even the literate and educated populace are not yet fully informed as to the design and method of our political system, or desire to participate in them so our politics is merely relegated to a game of the minority in the society. In other words, many people simply ignore politics leading to the worst being elected.

Donjazet2:


So simple question, who are in charge of setting or making the laws that make society better?

izzou:


Laws are not effected here, and that is what your examples are showing

But saying everybody would be well behaved without laws is not correct, sir

Even in saner climes, remove laws and they will turn to beasts immediately.

ShaqFu:
the legislature make the law, the executive enforce it.

DissTroy:

Just because I post my pictures or I have my phone and WhatsApp number up, and my portfolio doesn't mean I want to share my itinerary.
Even on Facebook, I don't share my itinerary or people I hobnob with. I barely ever even post pictures with people or tag them if I ever do. Nor do I mention new adventures I am up to. And I never respond to personal or invasive questions even on the comments posted on my posts.

Focus on the topic which is the 2023 presidential election and the candidates running for office. That's the topic. Don't get too nosy.

ShaqFu:
Lmao. How will a determined president fix our porous laws?

Is the determined president responsible for making our porous laws? Once again, how will he fix it? By enforcing it? Once again, how will he enforce it when the agencies that are suppose to enforce the laws are corrupt to the brim.

In Nigeria, when laws are enforced, Nigerians groan and lament. They complain and attach religious and tribal sentiment to it.

So tell me, is it this police force, that is full of illiterates and halfwits, who expect to enforce laws?

Izzou, you and disstroy are idealists and idealists don't prosper in Nigeria.

Donjazet2:

Good, so who elects the legislature? Is it not the masses who elects the legislature?

And I am telling you that the reason we have terrible politicians is because the vast majority of the masses so not care about democracy or elections and it's importance.
I can almost swear that more than half of the readers of my post right now have never voted for any politician before.

Not knowing just how powerful the politicians are and how powerful they themselves as individuals are in deciding who gets elected.

ShaqFu:
Lmao. How will a determined president fix our porous laws?

Is the determined president responsible for making our porous laws? Once again, how will he fix it? By enforcing it? Once again, how will he enforce it when the agencies that are suppose to enforce the laws are corrupt to the brim.

In Nigeria, when laws are enforced, Nigerians groan and lament. They complain and attach religious and tribal sentiment to it.

So tell me, is it this police force, that is full of illiterates and halfwits, who expect to enforce laws?

Izz.ou, you and dis.stroy are idealists and idealists don't prosper in Nigeria.

GloriousGbola:


I am sure you have seen pictures of Japanese and brits queueing without any enforcement. We even saw this during the queen's funeral.

Can the average Nigerian wait patiently in a queue till his turn?

It starts from the way Nigerians are brought up, and the values instilled in them by society

izzou:

You are just here and there sir.

You have identified the problem we have as porous laws, and you are still asking how anybody can enforce it.

So, the people will wake up one morning and start paying electricity bills without tampering with the meters? This is laughable.

Remove the laws in UK and US, and they will bypass anything and cut corners.

I don't know if I am an idealist, but your solution can never work anywhere on earth. Maybe in another planet, though

izzou:


Is it allowed to jump the queue during the Queen's funeral?

Why not answer that first?

ShaqFu:
You know me well to know getting nosy is my stock in trade. I deal with specifics, first hand experience and the likes.

ShaqFu:
well, one way or the other, we are somehow saying the same thing.

ShaqFu:
abegi. So how do you think our laws can be enforced?