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Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by dazzlingd(m): 2:43pm On Jan 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


See your stupid bastard self? You thought you had something to say but now you see you have no thing. Idiot cockroach scum worthy of destruction, waste of land and space, gutter rats will even fare better than you would ever be in this life and every bad thing that can fall on a person will fall on you both in your living and in your death. Misery full idiot.



Obviously you are an homosexual pig that is why you hate The Lord, which is why you talk any how because you feel even dirtier than Aba gutters and worthy to be burnt forever. That is how you would continue sucking the joysticks of monkeys and pigs and cockroaches, till you are burnt to death filthy ragged doll.

You need to calm down so you don’t self destruct.

Do you know Jesus is coming again?

And Jesus will only cum again when you give him a blowjobb.

Now imagine his white big dkkk in your black mouth

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Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Dtruthspeaker: 2:57pm On Jan 18, 2023
dazzlingd:


You need to calm down so you don’t self destruct.

Do you know Jesus is coming again?

And Jesus will only cum again when you give him a blowjobb.

Now imagine his white big dkkk in your black mouth

Now you have shown you are a just a penis carrying penis sucker of all types, pigs, monkeys, cockroaches all have visited your mouths and dirtied your soul hence the uselessness you feel. So you already know that your life is over and one small accident, hell fire straight. No need for judgment day.

Pencils and toothpicks and toilet rolls even have more value than you, miserable bastard.
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by dazzlingd(m): 3:02pm On Jan 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Now you have shown you are a just a penis carrying penis sucker, hence your dirty filthy soul and the uselessness you feel. So you already know that your life is over and one small accident, hell fire straight. No need for judgment day.

I’ll die someday, you will die too.
So don’t bother about how it will happen or where I will go after, but aren’t u happy u will die and meet white master jesus?
I can’t just imagine the shock on your face when u finally meet Jesus to realize he is a far different picture from your fantasy. The real son of satan himself

How will you handle the shock to realize everything u lived for was a lie.

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Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:07pm On Jan 18, 2023
dazzlingd:

I’ll die someday, you will die too...

Before dying is living and I am already halfway and I have the best life and living and yet God keeps blowing my mind with new new good things weekly, monthly and yearly.

But for you, you already have a horribly life and you are not yet 30 and you have already destroyed your living. I know how your living will be by 40 and I don't think you would see 50 for even as it stands you are already praying to die as the Bibled prophecied but death will take its time so that your living is slow and painful.

You should have feared God for it is better to make man your enemy than to make God your enemy.
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by dazzlingd(m): 3:10pm On Jan 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Before dying is living and I am already halfway and I have the best life and living and yet God keeps blowing my mind with new new good things weekly, monthly and yearly.

But for you, you already have a horribly life and you are not yet 30 and you have already destroyed your living. I know how your living will be by 40 and I don't think you would see 50.


Like I said, you are weak. You may not understand.

What if I tell you that you will surely die before the end of this year. Before the end of this week, you will dream that dream of your death.
I don’t have the power of death over you, neither do you have over any free soul.
But once I put that fear into you, and a fearful soul like you begin to fear and pray against it, your brain begin to process things that are not after you, and sooner or later, the little things scare you and you may end up dead

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Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:14pm On Jan 18, 2023
dazzlingd:

What if I tell you that you will surely die before the end of this year. Before the end of this week, you will dream that dream of your death

I'll gonna abuse you next week that I am still alive and I will mark it that next year January 15-20, 2024, I am going to come back to abuse you that I am here.
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Kobojunkie: 3:24pm On Jan 18, 2023
Romanoff:
■At the cross, Jesus was carrying the sins of the world, at that point, God could not even look at him. Because God cannot stand sin. The weight of Jesus' sacrifice was so enormous that even Jesus wished it was possible for the cup to pass over him.
■ If the sin of one man makes him unfit to stand before God's presence, then imagine carrying the sins of the world.
1. That idea is of the doctrines and traditions of your pastors and mogs, and is not scriptural at all. All those many postulations are born of lies that have nothing to do with the Truth as taught by Jesus Christ. . undecided

Instead, because He hung on the cross to die, Jesus Christ was cursed and all those who are cursed by God are forsaken by God hence the reason why Jesus Christ cried out that He had been forsaken by God. undecided

2. It is God's curse that causes a man to be cast away away the presence of God. undecided
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Kobojunkie: 3:27pm On Jan 18, 2023
AntiChristian:
So this makes "And the One who sent me is with me; he did not abandon me to myself, because I always do the things pleasing to him.” John 8:29 false!
As He explained clearly in that verse to even you God does not abandon those who do that which pleases Him. Those who are cursed, however, a different story. undecided
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by dazzlingd(m): 3:30pm On Jan 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


I'll gonna abuse you next week that I am still alive and I will mark it that next year January 15-20, 2024, I am going to come back to abuse you that I am here.






This is not the first time im hearing this. Be careful the kind of people u send bad energies to so u don’t self destruct.
I’ve heard death threats from your kinds and it all failed, but often times , they ended up with with what they wished others.
I don’t know you from anywhere and you don’t know me to, I don’t wish you dead, you are only foolish. I’m not even moved one inch by all the meaningless curses because it has zero effects, all useless to me. But I fear for you it may reflect on you. You don’t want to die, do you?
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:39pm On Jan 18, 2023
dazzlingd:

This is not the first time im hearing this. Be careful the kind of people u send bad energies to so u don’t self destruct

I don't know, don't care. But what I do know is that God rules over all and evil will always fall on the evil.
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Kobojunkie: 3:45pm On Jan 18, 2023
SeeItSayIt:
■God never forsake Jesus' Christ of Nazareth our Lord & personal saviour. It was Jesus Christ who asked that question, "my father my father, why has thou forsaken me?"
■Being in human form at that time, He asked the question based on the overwhelming tribulations He faced. Clearly knowing that he's been crucified for the sin of the same people He's trying to save their souls from eternal condemnation before the Almighty God.
■If truly God had forsaken Him, He couldn't have been resurrected the third day after been buried. And, the whole people in Galilee then saw Him ascending to heaven physically afterward.
1. God's curse, a result of God's Law depicting as cursed anyone who hangs on a tree to die is the reason why Jesus Christ was forsaken by God. So, yes, Jesus Christ was forsaken by God as a result of that curse. undecided

2. That doctrine no enter at all. undecided

3. Wrong! Jesus Christ had authority to lay down His life and pick it back up again , He told you this in John 10 vs 14 - 18. undecided
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by dazzlingd(m): 3:45pm On Jan 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


I don't know, don't care. But what I do know is that God rules over all and evil will always fall on the evil.

You have to care and you need to be careful. The way the the universe works is funny. When an energy is revolving around someone, you begin to manifest it without knowing.
I’m saying this because from nowhere, you began to mention death. Is the universe telling you it is your time?
You were even speaking as if you have the keys of death and you are the owner of souls. Be careful, I won’t tell you about this again

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Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Autobot05: 3:49pm On Jan 18, 2023
AntiChristian:
In the Bible we read (in Matthew and Mark) of Jesus claiming God abandoned him on the cross:
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?”
(which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”).

Matthew 27:46

At the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, My God, why have You abandoned me?"Mark 15:34

But on the contrary, Jesus made a claim in John that God will never abandon him to himself since he does what please God.
"And the One who sent me is with me; he did not abandon me to myself, because I always do the things pleasing to him.”John 8:29

Does this mean Jesus did what displeased God hence he abandoned him?

He must have said that from the pain . Jesus was in a physical body like we humans .
If God had forsaken him .. he wouldn't have resurrected. Btw your moniker wink
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:55pm On Jan 18, 2023
dazzlingd:

You have to care and you need to be careful...

Obviously, you just want to have the last word so keep it for I have said all that I should say.
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Kobojunkie: 3:57pm On Jan 18, 2023
SeeItSayIt:
His/her soul might still be useful to God which is why HE still keep him/her alive.
God doesn't keep a person alive simply because a one is still of use to Him, God. undecided
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Dtruthspeaker: 3:58pm On Jan 18, 2023
Autobot05:
..Btw your moniker wink

That is him confessing so that on sight you would know you are dealing with a devil who is a Muslim.
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Kobojunkie: 4:05pm On Jan 18, 2023
AntiChristian:
In the Bible we read (in Matthew and Mark) of Jesus claiming God abandoned him on the cross:
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?”
(which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”).

Matthew 27:46

At the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, My God, why have You abandoned me?"Mark 15:34

But on the contrary, Jesus made a claim in John that God will never abandon him to himself since he does what please God.
"And the One who sent me is with me; he did not abandon me to myself, because I always do the things pleasing to him.”John 8:29

Does this mean Jesus did what displeased God hence he abandoned him?
When Jesus Christ said, on the cross, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?", He, Jesus Christ, was not crying out for help at all. Jesus Christ was sentenced to die a cursed death— he was hung on the tree to die—, by His own people. And what that meant was that He was condemned/forsaken by the Almighty as a result of hanging on the cross to die— to be cursed is to be forsaken. However, He, Jesus Christ, had previously explained in John 10 vs 14 - 18 that not only did He volunteer to be put to death — a lamb led to slaughter—, but it was also by His authority, His power, that He laid down His life only to pick it back up on the third day. undecided
14 I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me,
15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father; and I lay down my life for the sheep.
16 And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd.
17 For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I may take it up again.
18 No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have [the] authority to lay it down, and I have [the] authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from my Father.” - John 10 vs 14 - 18
And as Jesus Christ explained in the passage above, He did it all -- He obeyed His Father--- in order that He might receive the glory in store for Him. That was the deal He had with the Father. So, the narrative that speaks of Jesus Christ as helpless on the cross, and crying out for help from the Father is a lie. Instead, He is written to have overcome the curse and death by the third day when He rose. So, Jesus Christ didn't ask the father for help, nor did the Father have any need to help Him since, as He said, it was all by His own authority that He underwent it all in order to obtain glory. undecided
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by dazzlingd(m): 4:06pm On Jan 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Obviously, you just want to have the last word so keep it for I have said all that I should say.

lol, last word.

But do u know jesus is a thief
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:25pm On Jan 18, 2023
Three persons are the most concerned that faithful day:

JEHOVAH the only true God!
JESUS God's chosen Messiah
SATAN the ruler of the world!

JESUS is about to sacrifice his perfect human life to pay the corresponding ransom which will save mankind and JEHOVAH is sending angels to encourage JESUS to finish the task {Luke 22:43} SATAN on the other hand stood firm watching JESUS bear the pain so he complained that JESUS is using supernatural powers to suppress the pain so that he couldn't feel the agonizing torture.
So God withdrew all the supernatural powers in Jesus' body that's why Jesus cried out because he realized power has gone out of his body! Read Luke 8:46 smiley
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by TenQ: 4:51pm On Jan 18, 2023
AntiChristian:
In the Bible we read (in Matthew and Mark) of Jesus claiming God abandoned him on the cross:
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?”
(which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”).

Matthew 27:46

At the ninth hour, Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?" which means, "My God, My God, why have You abandoned me?"Mark 15:34

But on the contrary, Jesus made a claim in John that God will never abandon him to himself since he does what please God.
"And the One who sent me is with me; he did not abandon me to myself, because I always do the things pleasing to him.”John 8:29

Does this mean Jesus did what displeased God hence he abandoned him?
Jesus was Quoting the book of Psalm to remind the people about the prophecy of the Messiah's death. When the Messiah comes, he would quote this Psalm.

Ps 22:1,16-21:
"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why do you refuse to help me or even to listen to my groans? …
The enemy, this gang of evil men, circles me like a pack of dogs; they have pierced my hands and feet. I can count every bone in my body. See these men of evil gloat and stare; they divide my clothes among themselves by a toss of the dice. O Lord, don't stay away. O God my Strength, hurry to my aid. Rescue me from death; spare my precious life from all these evil men. Save me from these lions' jaws and from the horns of these wild oxen. Yes, God will answer me and rescue me."




Was the Messiah mocked by people?
Mark 15:29:
"And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days,"


Mark 15:19-20:
"And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him. And when they had mocked him, they took off the purple from him, and put his own clothes on him, and led him out to crucify him."


Was the Messiah crucified on the cross by nailing his hands and feet?
Matt 27:35:
"And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots."


Luke 24:39:
"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."


Luke 24:40:
"And when he had thus spoken, he showed them his hands and his feet."



Was the Messiah's cloth shared or divided by lottery?
Mat 27:35:
"After the crucifixion, the soldiers threw dice to divide up his clothes among themselves."


John 19:23-24:
"Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout. They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the Scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did."

Was the Messiah's life saved?
Luk 24:40:
"As he spoke, he held out his hands for them to see the marks of the nails, and showed them the wounds in his feet."
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Kobojunkie: 5:00pm On Jan 18, 2023
TenQ:
■Jesus was Quoting the book of Psalm to remind the people about the prophecy of the Messiah's death. When the Messiah comes, he would quote this Psalm.
1. Why in the world would Jesus Christ think to recite Psalm 22 just cause this just as He was about to give up His last breath? undecided
...22 I will tell my people about you. I will praise you in the great assembly.
23 Praise the Lord, all you who worship him! Honor him, you descendants of Jacob! Fear and respect him, all you people of Israel!
24 He does not ignore those who need help. He does not hate them. He does not turn away from them. He listens when they cry for help.
25 Lord, because of you I offer praise in the great assembly. In front of all these worshipers, I will do all that I promised.
26 Poor people, come eat and be satisfied. You who have come looking for the Lord, praise him! May your hearts be happy[h] forever.
27 May those in faraway countries remember the Lord and come back to him. May those in distant lands worship him,
28 because the Lord is the King. He rules all nations.
29 The people have eaten all they wanted and bowed down to worship him. Yes, everyone will bow down to him— all who are on the way to the grave, unable to hold on to life.
30 Our descendants will serve him. Those who are not yet born will be told about him.
31 Each generation will tell their children about the good things the Lord has done. - Psalm 22 vs 22 - 30
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by TenQ: 5:16pm On Jan 18, 2023
Kobojunkie:
1. Why in the world would Jesus Christ think to recite Psalm 22 just as He was about to give up His last breath? undecided
Check verse 31
31 Each generation will tell their children about the good things the Lord has done
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Kobojunkie: 5:35pm On Jan 18, 2023
TenQ:
Check verse 31
31 Each generation will tell their children about the good things the Lord has done
Generations applied to the Old Covenant where parents were tasked with teaching their children the Law. That is not the case in the New Covenant where all pretty much exist as if Eunuchs. undecided
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by AntiChristian: 5:37pm On Jan 18, 2023
TenQ:

Jesus was Quoting the book of Psalm to remind the people about the prophecy of the Messiah's death. When the Messiah comes, he would quote this Psalm.

Ps 22:1,16-21:
"My God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Why do you refuse to help me or even to listen to my groans? …
The enemy, this gang of evil men, circles me like a pack of dogs; they have pierced my hands and feet. I can count every bone in my body. See these men of evil gloat and stare; they divide my clothes among themselves by a toss of the dice. O Lord, don't stay away. O God my Strength, hurry to my aid. Rescue me from death; spare my precious life from all these evil men. Save me from these lions' jaws and from the horns of these wild oxen. Yes, God will answer me and rescue me."




Was the Messiah mocked by people?
Mark 15:29:
"And they that passed by railed on him, wagging their heads, and saying, Ah, thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days,"


Mark 15:19-20:
"And they smote him on the head with a reed, and did spit upon him, and bowing their knees worshipped him. And when they had mocked him, they took off the purple from him, and put his own clothes on him, and led him out to crucify him."


Was the Messiah crucified on the cross by nailing his hands and feet?
Matt 27:35:
"And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots."


Luke 24:39:
"Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."


Luke 24:40:
"And when he had thus spoken, he showed them his hands and his feet."



Was the Messiah's cloth shared or divided by lottery?
Mat 27:35:
"After the crucifixion, the soldiers threw dice to divide up his clothes among themselves."


John 19:23-24:
"Then the soldiers, when they had crucified Jesus, took his garments, and made four parts, to every soldier a part; and also his coat: now the coat was without seam, woven from the top throughout. They said therefore among themselves, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the Scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my raiment among them, and for my vesture they did cast lots. These things therefore the soldiers did."

Was the Messiah's life saved?
Luk 24:40:
"As he spoke, he held out his hands for them to see the marks of the nails, and showed them the wounds in his feet."


How does all these answer the OP?
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by AntiChristian: 5:38pm On Jan 18, 2023
Kobojunkie:
When Jesus Christ said, on the cross, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?", He, Jesus Christ, was not crying out for help at all. Jesus Christ was sentenced to die a cursed death— he was hung on the tree to die—, by His own people. And what that meant was that He was condemned/forsaken by the Almighty as a result of hanging on the cross to die— to be cursed is to be forsaken. However, He, Jesus Christ, had previously explained in John 10 vs 14 - 18 that not only did He volunteer to be put to death — a lamb led to slaughter—, but it was also by His authority, His power, that He laid down His life only to pick it back up on the third day. undecided
And as Jesus Christ explained in the passage above, He did it all -- He obeyed His Father--- in order that He might receive the glory in store for Him. That was the deal He had with the Father. So, the narrative that speaks of Jesus Christ as helpless on the cross, and crying out for help from the Father is a lie. Instead, He is written to have overcome the curse and death by the third day when He rose. So, Jesus Christ didn't ask the father for help, nor did the Father have any need to help Him since, as He said, it was all by His own authority that He underwent it all in order to obtain glory. undecided

Where is John 8:29 in all this?
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by AntiChristian: 5:39pm On Jan 18, 2023
Autobot05:


He must have said that from the pain . Jesus was in a physical body like we humans .
If God had forsaken him .. he wouldn't have resurrected. Btw your moniker wink

He was in Physical body, so can a physical body die for all humans?
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Kobojunkie: 5:41pm On Jan 18, 2023
AntiChristian:
Where is John 8:29 in all this?
If you read John 8 vs 29 with your glasses on, you would see that Jesus Christ made clear that only applied as long as He was not in violation of God- Deuteronomy 21:22–23. undecided
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Kobojunkie: 5:43pm On Jan 18, 2023
Autobot05:
■He must have said that from the pain . Jesus was in a physical body like we humans .
■If God had forsaken him .. he wouldn't have resurrected. Btw your moniker wink
1. That isn't true. Yes, He was in pain but He was also Jesus Christ. undecided

2. Wrong! Jesus Christ died by His own authority and rose by His own authority - John 10 vs 14 - 18 undecided
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by TenQ: 5:53pm On Jan 18, 2023
AntiChristian:


How does all these answer the OP?
Except the OP is Dumb and is under the bondage of Satan!
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Banilla: 5:54pm On Jan 18, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


I'll gonna abuse you next week that I am still alive and I will mark it that next year January 15-20, 2024, I am going to come back to abuse you that I am here.





You are obnoxious! Toxic! Hateful! Ignorant! Anti-christian!

You think you would make heaven with this bad character of yours? undecided

You behave like a spawn of satan.

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Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by TenQ: 5:55pm On Jan 18, 2023
Kobojunkie:
Generations applied to the Old Covenant where parents were tasked with teaching their children the Law. That is not the case in the New Covenant where all pretty much exist as if Eunuchs. undecided
Open a new thread as this is not the appropriate place for such a discuss!
Re: Why Did God Forsake Jesus? by Banilla: 5:58pm On Jan 18, 2023
Kobojunkie:
If you read John 8 vs 29 with your glasses on, you would see that Jesus Christ made clear that only applied as long as He was not in violation of God- Deuteronomy 21:22–23. undecided
Do you think maybe Jesus was settling an example? That as christains bear their crosses, it's not a sin to believe they have been forsaken by God? Like, he was human when he was killed. Maybe he acted like one.

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