ubunja:
if you have been following closely what's been taught on this thread you'd know that going after "20s women" is what is recommended since that's when women are at their prime. A man at his prime (30s) and a woman at her prime (20s) make a beautiful team cause they're both bringing to the table their best. Not left overs.

The teaming up of 30 something men and 20 something women is actually the very thing that older post wall women hate and are angry about. That men their age (30s/40s) want to deal with younger women while they the 30s/40s women don't get any attention is pissing them off endlessly. Isn't this what Feminists are fighting Leonardo DiCaprio over? That he refuses to deal with anything over the age of 25? Isn't this why older hags are calling men "pedophiles" cause once men get their shít together they prefer younger women, red pilled or not? This is something that men naturally choose and even blue pilled men do it. Which is the result of men's delayed peak which teaches them which women to value and which women to ignore. So men, on a natural level been doing things the right way, blue pilled or not.

AlterEgo00:
That's because Simps have made it so,and if you see this girl eh,,, Obasanjo fine pass am ...

Aaron12:
Alaye is not a lie though, they put to much significance to their puccy as if it is refined crude oil or refined gold.

ubunja:
Do you gents remember the post where I did a break down of the different ways men and women react to Emotional Cheating VS Physical Cheating, (where Emotional cheating is a heart to heart bond with an outside party and Physical Cheating is physical sex) where I said the following.......



Now, an Instagram page (@the_hoe_phase_expert) asked men and women to vote as to which kind of cheating they would each tolerate as a gender. And as I had postulated, men said they'd rather their women cheat EMOTIONALLY, while women said they'd rather their men cheat PHYSICALLY.
Here's the link:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cm7-dmlgynv/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Those on Instagram can visit the post and analyse the comments. Very interesting as both men and women are responding.

So I merged the results from the Instagram link with excerpts of my own post to make the picture below....


P/S I've been seeing the various mentions here and I'll respond later on today....

ubunja:
it's generally IMPOSSIBLE for a man to love more than 1 woman at a time. Women can do it better. Men can do it but that's a very small minority of men who can master that art. The general dynamic is that man can love only one woman at a time. While he can very well sleep with many women at the same time unaffected. To demonstrate the differences between the genders:
Men can love 1 woman at a time but can sleep with many at a time.
Women can love many men at a time but can sleep with 1 man at a time.
The implications of this dynamic are massive. And it's the difference between sexual cheating and emotional cheating.

A relationship/marriage is not threatened when a man is sleeping around, it's when he starts confiding with one woman and having heart to heart talks with one female and bonding emotionally with her that his official GF/ wife has to worry. Cause that's where the real threat is - since emotionally men can handle only one woman at a time. Him getting Emotional with a woman who's not his own wife is a much bigger risk to the relationship/marriage than him just having random sexual encounters. The random sexual encounters don't mean anything to men cause sex in itself is not an emotional experience for men. But if a man is not even sleeping with a woman but is spending time bonding emotionally with her the damage to his own relationship/marriage will be far greater than if he just slept with the woman and kept his mouth shut and heart out of it.

Men can not be affected on an emotional level by sex. No matter how sweet and delicious a pucc is, it will never be enough to push a man to break up with his GF or wife over it. No matter how good of a fuccer a side chick is, a man will never leave his GF/wife for the side chick. Men will enjoy that sweet pucc for what it is and still go back to the woman they love........ But let a side chick be gentle, sweet, caring, loving, kind, understanding, forgiving, respectful, submissive then there's a problem! Here is where a man's relationship is at risk. Cause now he's being affected on an emotional level. This is where the situation becomes dangerous. And the moment a man engages with a woman on this level, his own GF/wife will sense it right away. She'll literally feel her man's love for her drop and reduce. This is when the man will suddenly be cold and distant with his GF or wife. He'll suddenly be moody at home and start fault-finding and being irritable around his main woman. Cause his heart can only deal with one woman at a time. He has a problem spreading his love over two women. So as he falls deeper for that other woman, his main woman feels it. This is how men get caught when they start cheating, especially since k. men can only cheat with one woman at a time so in the end they end up being Emotional with her. True players always cheat with multiple women and they hit it and keep it moving so they never get invested in any one of the women. Or even if the Players do get somewhat emotionally invested, the Emotional dividend each woman gets is too small to really matter. But if all the Emotional investment is going to just one side chick then there's a problem cause that one side chick is now a real threat.

For women its the opposite.
A woman can be romantically involved with even up to 5 men and none of the men will ever sense it. There'll be no diminishing of love for one man as it all flows to the other men. Generally a man will not sense anything. That's why women are always chatting with strange men in their DMs who are promising her heaven and earth and doing her all acts of kindness and love but she'll be in a fully fledged relationship or marriage all the time. And her husband not feel a thing. However the moment she fuccs another man her BF or husband will sense it. Cause the way a woman moves around her BF and husband after another man has rearranged her guts and fucced her brains out will always be different. There's bound to be a reduction in respect, awe, understanding, kindness and submission inside the relationship and marriage. Many men can sense it, cause their gut feeling is finely tuned to pick these things up. Even without evidence. There's always a change. Even though a man can't quite put his finger on it but he'll know something's up. Most men just won't speak up or do anything cause of the lack of evidence. But in their heart and soul they're picking up the vibe that their woman is riding another dicc. But that vibe won't be there if it's merely the woman bonding emotionally with other dudes in DMs or at work etc.

The opposite for women being that for women their system is optimised to watch out for Emotional cheating,, while a man's system is optimised to watch out for sexual cheating. A woman's sexual cheating endangers a man's legacy far more than Emotional cheating cause if his woman is sleeping around, while she may end up leaving him, the greatest danger is that she may cheat and stay, thereby making it possible for the man to raise another man's offspring. Which is the greatest of betrayals. Meanwhile a man's Emotional Cheating endangers a woman's security cause where a man's heart goes his money will soon follow.

Hence a man who discovers his wife been messing with another man will ask only one question: "did you have sex with him?". Cause to men cheating is not really cheating until the legs open. This is why even to men, a relationship is not really a relationship until the woman's legs open.

Meanwhile to women, if a GF/wife discovers her man has been cheating, what does she ask? Does she ask if her man has slept with that woman? Nope! A GF/Wife's pressing question is always: "Do you love that woman?" Because women understand until you get a man to open his heart you have not got got him. This is why even to women, a relationship is not really a relationship until the man's heart opens. This is all to say a woman will forgive easier real sex but will struggle to forgive emotional cheating.

To better explain this concept...
If your GF discovers that you fucced Maria she may forgive you. But if she discovers you sat down with Maria and shared with her a bond, whereby you were so deep in it that you shared with Maria your life struggles, your life pains, your successes and failures, your hopes and dreams, your anxieties and worries --- this will hurt your GF far more than if you had just fucced Maria and kept it going. Cause see, now you've engaged with Maria on an EMOTIONAL LEVEL.
That level of engagement is only for your main GF.

And the moment you give it to another someone, your GF will sense it immediately. Cause that's the part where your Emotions for your GF will start dropping cause another someone is also getting those Emotions as well. That's the cheating that hurts a woman beyond imagination. The Emotional investment via sharing. Cause that part of you is as important to her as her own puccy is important to you. And no woman wants to share that with anybody else. She wants that deeper knowledge about you to remain exclusive only to her. This is what the first Pic below is about. See Pic 1.
The sharing of deep information must not be done lightly. Cause that deep information is the real you, it is your core, that every woman must work to decipher. You never give it to any woman on a silver platter. When a woman asks you "tell me about yourself", always be vague about your core. Don't straight up dish it out. While you continue to relentlessly diick her down and rearrange her guts, refuse to lay bare to her your dreams and aspirations, your fears and anxieties, your triumphs and losses, your joys and sorrows, your pains and pleasures,,, make her work for it. Your dicc must be easy to get, but your core must be hard to get. It is by controlling this aspect of yourself that you remain Emotionally Unavailable (read: interesting and high value)

A woman must forever be pressed to understand the man who's fuccing her brains out. Keep feeding her crumbs of information to keep her keen. But never the full gourmet. She must always be working to understand you. Remember INFORMATION IS POWER.

That's why women love gossip. While men only have to sleep with a woman and they'll know about her. A man can understand decades about a woman just by one round of sex with her. It's why in the Bible when it talks about a man having sex with a woman it says "...and so and so KNEW his wife", - sex was equated with knowledge. A woman has to study a man and have him expose himself but a man only has to spend a night with a woman and he'll know just what type of woman she has been. Cause a woman's body will always betray her history. That's why women are fighting tooth and nail to have men ignore the state of a woman's body and to never associate how a woman's body is with her sexual history: hence all the talk about "boys don't sag boobs, it's gravity and genes" and "promiscuity don't loosen the vagina". All of which is a lie. A woman's body is the scene of her crimes. And she carries that scene everywhere she goes.

No man wants a woman who has no self control, just as no woman wants a man who has no self control.
But in intergender dynamics self control means different things to different genders: A man has self control if he can fucc without falling in love and a woman has self control if she can love without fuccing. That is why a high body count on a woman is a bad thing cause it betrays a lack of self control. But Feminists sell the idea of a high body count to women as representing sexual freedom and liberty. Which of course women enthusiastically buy into. Cause they need every excuse to whóré. Cause let's face it, sex is nice. And by extension whóring is nice. Which in itself wouldn't be a problem except that women are prone to falling in love via sex and if they have too much sex they end up losing the ability to fall in love via sex, which means sex stops being a bonding experience for them,which further devalues sex to a point that women don't really care who they have it with and where and how. At that level a woman is no longer of any use for a man and has become toxic and is just one step away from finding more joy in diildos and vibrators than real one on one sex with a man. This is the reason why diildos and vibrators are becoming more and more popular as women whóré more and more cause what is happening is that these women are hitting the sex "ceiling" more and more: they're quickly reaching that space where they've fucced too many men the sex has lost its magic and is no longer satisfying. They now need more. A lot of women have reached this level in the West and are now Surviving on toys. Their condition may as well be incurable and hopeless.

Caveat: This "Men can fucc many but can only love 1 and Women can love many but can only fucc 1" dynamic doesn't however hold true when a man and a woman are single.
A single woman is much better able to push multiple sexual setups than a woman in a relationship. Hence for women being single = whóring. And it's the reason why women are easily sold the idea of being single. Cause women can tolerate NO LOVE if they're getting all the sex they want. And they can even tolerate NO BABIES if they're getting good neverending sex. Which brings us to that shocking American statistic that close to 50% of all women will be single and childless by 2030. Which is the single most strongest argument against Feminism and Women's Empowerment yet.

That "45% of all women will be single and childless by 2030" has spooked governments around the world. And the first tentative steps to stripping women of their rights have started in earnest... beginning with Indonesia and South Korea. Indonesia's ban on premarital sex is a preemptive strike against this statistic. And South Korea's president Yoon Suk-yeol (overwhelmingly voted for by young men who expressly pointed out they don't want women empowered) is already working to abolish the country's Women's ministry and is busy doing away with gender parity laws declaring no one will be promoted cause of gender but only cause if merit. Something the West would consider akin to blasphemy. see Pic 2,3,4 below.

But this analysis will need a seperate presentation....


South Korean link: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-63905490

Indonesian link:
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/05/asia/indonesia-new-code-passed-sex-cohabitation-intl-hnk/index.html

ubunja:
For the guys interested in tracking down how people are dying suddenly from Heart attacks, strokes and in their sleep in rising numbers [presumably] from those kovid vakkcinez visit the Instagram page: https://instagram.com/diedsuddenlyworldwide?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


And for a chilling full length documentary of how embalmers in US funeral homes are finding blood clots in dead vaxxed people download the "Died Suddenly" Documentary here:
https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/o/b/I/1/obI1g.caa.rec.mp4?u=4&b=0
(Almost 400mb- total 1hour long)

Stay safe.

CaveAdullam:


I agree.

But just to add some clarification:

1. Men and women enjoy casual mating.

But the emphasis has always been on who engages/loves casual mating MORE.

Or, to rephrase it, who's HIGHER on the scale when it comes to being promiscuous? This has been the bone of contention.

2. Are men tall? Yes.
Are women tall? Yes.
But between males and females who's more taller?

Do men have high IQs? Yes.
Do women have high IQs? Yes.
But whose IQ is higher on gender, population, and demographic scale?

3. You are only looking at it at the average/mean side. That's men and women share almost the same average height and intelligence.

Meanwhile, on the right side of the curve, men are the shortest and dumbest and on the left side, men are of the higher IQ and tallest.

I don't know, but if you are familiar with the bell curve you'll understand better.

4. Now, if women love sex as much as men (which I don't agree with completely) or even more than men, then why same women are not fúcking the bottom men?

Take note: Only <20% of 100% of men are at the apex. >80% of men are dispersed at the middle and bottom unequally.

So, if you say "women don't fvck bottom men" how come they still enjoy sex as much as men? Hope you get what I'm pointing at here.
(I'm not talking about the pleasure side of sex per se but the quantity of sex).

5. Now, men don't have a problem fúcking any kind of woman. As far as she is a woman (aside from his close genetic line) a man will fúck.

Men are not selective when it comes to sex. But women are selective.

Men are selective because they have a shorter life span (ràpe, paedophiliá stems from these reasons - though I'm not in support of it as is illegal and a criminal act). But I'm just trying to point you to the evolutionary details behind it.

Production of millions of sperms also finds its root here.

Women are selective because the cost of pregnancy is high. Raising and nurturing is a difficult game for women. That's why ova is short in supply. And also the reason women are in charge of reproduction and only allocate pússy to the top men.

6. Do women love sex? Yes of course.
Do men love sex? Yes. Yes.

But how do we know who loves sex more?

Without data and statistics as I have provided in a few pages backward, the sex/gender that will fúck at any time is the one that loves sex more.

That man will fúck high, middle, and low women.

And women desire to fúck and reproduce for the top men only. (Women only settle for the men at the middle or bottom level when they don't have any reserving option. It is an internal and eternal punishment for her).

8. So, you can't say women love sex as much as men or even more than when same women will not fúck >80% of the men population.

Meanwhile, all men desire to fúck every woman in the world.


DAY 358, REDPILL 2022

Authority: Up your game. Elevate yourself.

CaveAdullam:
If you are interested in a long-term relationship, you must know this.

heartofcity12:
A quick observation about modern dating;
Calling now seems to be going out of style. Ppl now prefer to be texted than being called. I personally prefer calling to texting but things are changing at a fast pace.. Some get really nervous to pick a call.. You can get a girl wet for you and make her come over that same day through text alone nowadays, you can also easily set a date through text alone, same girl might not even pick up your phone if you had started with calling.. Times are changing. There are always few exceptions tho..

CrystalTiger:


The rare exceptions are those who truly want you...Spoken words are extremely powerful, any girl who wants you genuinely wouldn't mind talking to you for hours..

For me, texting zone=friend zone..

ashewoboy:




I just finished watching the movie.

They reiterated ubunja's stance. "Sex first"

She had sex with him first before they proceeded into a relationship. There was no where he asked her out. She was at the fore front. She was even the person who suggested that they should elope. She chose him.

It's all her fault. She is to be blamed. The red flags were there but she was ignoring it. Later they will say men are scum but women are the people who make wrong choices.

Ketapu:


You are one of the few people on this thread I still enjoy reading their posts.

Based on my experience, your illustration described my experience cold approaching ladies, especially using "Mode One" as taught by Alan Roger Currie (rip ).

I will never forget the first time Mode One worked for me. The lady was surprised I told her my romantic interest during our first conversation. She was surprised a guy would be bold enough to say such a thing but she agreed and the rest is history. Prior to that day, I have had some sad rejections but I never gave up. The other ladies I have encountered since then have also expressed similar surprise.

As a guy that want romantic success with as many ladies as he wants, you will get a lot of rejections from ladies especially if they don't instantly see you as a high value man. However, if you don't give up and approach other ladies that interest you, you will overcome your fear of rejections and eventually meet ladies that will share similar interests with you. Those are the ladies you should spend your time, money, and resources on.

This lesson also apply to any other profitable endeavors one embarks on.

luvyaself95:


I still prefer calling to text because many guys are in all these girls DM.
You meet them the first time, create interest of you in them collect number.
Call when you want to

Dabronze:
To go deep in the underworld game of women is not for the faint hearted
It strong mind to go deep in the rabbit hole
I have couple of friends that I've introduced to this thread but at some stage they withdrew from this thread because they can't handle the truth
Not everybody want the truth

heartofcity12:


You have a point, however it all still depends on the interest level of the girl. Even if you use sms, a girl with genuine desire wouldn’t mind and you’ll have your way with her, and if you call a girl not interested for hours, that doesn’t mean her decision will change. I believe it all depends on the girl’s interest level..

CaveAdullam:
1. All that I pray daily is to get relief from work and have time to be chatting and chasing women on their DMs. Because you guys got a lot of time at hand, and become bothered that a lady doesn't pay you enough attention. Gosh!

They aren't as jobless as you man. They are busy hustling either by hook or crook. You are a distraction.

2. All women have that 1 man they have a genuine desire for. Or, strong romantic feelings for. The man may be poor, broke, rich, tall, short, ugly, handsome et al. That's their business, not yours.

3. Even virgin women and prostitutes have a crush/boyfriends. Immediately puberty sets in, estrogen and progesterone start doing the Lord's work.

4. You can cajole her by being seductive or throwing wads of cash on her roofs. She'll fall for you depending on the amount of pressure you applied and how well you used it.

5. However, she'll never feel you. She'll never go the extra mile for you. She'll never be submissive to you. She'll take a walk out the door when your leaves turn brown.

6. Of course, sex is what you wanted and you got it. But what about the resources, time, and energy you used in chasing and fvcking her? In the end, if you're truthful to yourself, and do a proper analysis you'll discover that you wasted your time chasing the wind.

7. This is the same woman that will use her two legs to go to her lover's house without being invited and get fvcked mercilessly. And after the tryst, will thank him. But here you are acting like a little puppy.

8. It's easier to get beautiful women. But you guys want to see down in your ghettos and get one for yourselves. If wishes were horses.

How do you get them?

It is simple.

For you to get women and not get frightened in interacting and dealing with them put yourself in a place women are abundant.

If you want beautiful hot women frequent the club.
Intelligent women; visit the library often.
Religious women; don't fail to attend Jumaat or Sunday service.

Anywhere women are plentiful position yourself there and 1 woman will choose you.

And make sure you do your homework.

9. Jumping from DM to DM trying to force words out of women is a contributing factor to their entitlement mentality and mono-syllabic reply. The woman that chooses you and finds you interesting will be all over you.

You guys have much time to waste. Precious time that makes me envious.

Mtcheeeew.

Martinez39s:
My bad. I thought you were seeking guidance on what to do next after the redpill. I thought you assumed upping your game with the redpill was automatically the next step, and I was merely pointing out that it isn't.

MGTOW is a lifestyle that shuns marriage, cohabitation with women, and romantic relationships with women (short and long term). Such lifestyle doesn't fault or forbid men from using escorts, prostitutes, and porn. A mgtow man can have sex with anyone he wants as long as the sex is consensual. Such a man can have sex with prostitutes, his neighbor's grown daughter(s) (or any girl next door), his course mates (or any Bleep buddy) etc. It is not limited to prostitutes, porn and escorts. Personally, I find paying for sex to a foolish thing, but any mgtow man is free to do such if they want... it's their money. It also doesn't condemn a man for being sexually aroused and having sex.

Men don't NEED sex. A man won't die if he doesn't have sex. In accordance with tenets of self-improvement, a man must reach a level where his sexual desires, which will always be there, cannot influence him against his will and always dictate for him. Such a level is possible as every man is ultimately responsible for his actions even when Hot. Can a man stay for many decades without having sex with a woman? Yes. If I can do it, what's anyone's excuse?

Stop this misinformation. Being sexually aroused doesn't mean you must find a release [with a woman]; and sexual starvation isn't the driving force of rapists. I have never had sex in my entire life, I never plan to, and I have never thought of raping any woman. Konji are like waves— they always come and go. Sexual desires will always be there, but it's up to you to determine whether you succumb to them or not. Even when Hot, you are still responsible for your actions. What kind of life would a man live if he succumbs and seeks release to every fine pùssy and konji that rises in his body? Too bad males are not taught the vital discipline of mastering themselves and maintain their ground during sexual arousal; instead, males are praised for their high body count.

Whether one likes it or not, konji will always come once in a while, but it will die down shortly (usually when you have made up your mind not to succumb and let the little man lead). The longer you have practiced being in control of your decisions even when on heat, the lesser the grip of your sexual desires on your decisions; I speak out of experience. A man need not be a slave to his inherent sexual impulses. If men can learn to master themselves during heat (a act that is very possible), and stop being smitten by any fine pùssy, part of his problems with women will be eliminated.

As far as I can tell, no one (at least not mgtow men) shame men for being Hot. Being Hot is something that will always happen once in while. Higher testosterone levels is not an excuse to let your sexual desires be your master. Sexual desires will always be there, but a man must be the master of his decisions and resolutions even when on heat. I ask again, what kind of life would a man lead if he succumbs to every fine pùssy and seeks release for every konji that rises in his body?

NB: I am not against men being involved in the game. However, let's not be misinformed and be slaves to something (our sexual desires) that we are supposed to be masters of. Cheers.

JESHAL:
The girl you are paying sex too or simping with money and gifts for is giving it to someone for free let this always burn in your skull and heart, transactional sex is easy but it's worthless and pathetic, always remember that your sexual thirstiness ( horniness) must not control you, it makes you weak and you will always loose frame and compromise because you are too desperate to satisfy it. How will you sacrifice cash ( data for porn, cash for prostitutes) that's of value for pussy that's worthless

Pussy is worthless
Pussy is a useless nasty hole
Pussy is worth $0.00
What's there in the breast
The breast is just fat
Degrade her beauty because that's the main means to manipulation

heartofcity12:
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monerozi5590:



Thanks for constantly reminding us. We forget this things easily but thank you sir for always bringing this to our minds always.

JESHAL:
This simps are ruining are our society, the redpill is working but the rate of simp men in the society is still 90%.we need to do something, our society is falling apart. Where is the pride and dignity of the men folks?

A guy doing a public proposal to marry a girl and even publicly begging her to accept his proposal. Men have lost it, the F gender folks are now so entiletled because the knows simps are everywhere.

One just posted this morning about what to do about his double dating girlfriend, I felt like smatching my phone on the floor then I remember its a 50k phone. Men has lost control, the f gender has taken over. We now do the complain while the do the control. In that same thread one useless guy told him to just stick around and enjoy the punna, WTF!!! Is this how low the men folks have been reduce to?

How can a man spend his time schooling and hustling and after he succeded and meet a girl will now tell the girl “Am lucky to find a girl like you", what nonsense, she suppose to be lucky to find and not the other way round. I see men hustling and sweating just to bring the spoils of war of their hustle at the feet of a woman. A man will succeed and abandon his parents and siblings but all his hustling is going to a bitch. What is happening?

A girl will post on social media and the simp cartel will give her 1000 comment and like within 5 minute with comments like you are pretty, bla bla bla even flooding their inbox with useless messages. Where have the pride and dignity of men gone to? What happened to the dignity of manhood? What is happening?