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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 9:44am On Jan 28, 2023 |
basilico: Your definition of institutional racism agrees with what I said. Below is the answer by OpenAi when I prompted "discuss institutional racism in US police departments";
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:48am On Jan 28, 2023 |
wirinet: and you are heavily brainwashed. you cannot think or reason to save your life... 1: Refer us to the part in my post i defended the murder of Tyre 2: where did i say both sides were wrong We all know GF was on drugs. you cannot change that fact even if you go to juju the bold shows everyone here that you are heavily brainwashed and it proves my point saying almost everyone here on the other side is seriously brainwashed. the same people have been saying blacks cannot be racists. institutional racism keeps blacks down but it is blacks in the case, according to your irrational response, it is blacks that are carrying out institutional racism. secondly, it shows how stupid you have become. Black men are helping white men carry out institutional racism by killing Tyre? we are talking about 5 individuals here and you are pivoting to institutional racism. what do you know other than throwing words here and there? you said the police cannot try that shit against whites. Okay, I said Tony Timpa died like Floyd long before GF, and non of you know about it. there are many cases of police brutality against whites. this white boy was killed by a white cop for nothing. he was following all commands https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 I bet you did not know about this. you are brainwashed and a professional victim. so instead of you seeing brutality, you see I am a victim of racism. Black cops kill the Black guy you still blame white people for it. you need help. trust me, the Blacks killing themselves in Chicago vote Dems and will also cry they are a victim of KKK like prideoflincoln. I am sure if they have the same mindset as the kkk they will hate whites just as the kkk hates blacks but no... lets use kkk mentality and hate ourselves and then point the fingers at white man. you really need help. lol In Nigeria there is tribalism and many don't hate black, and if they do then it is not whites that are to blame, it is they themselves. this goes back to the slave era. Ghanaian chiefs enslave blacks from other tribes and sell them to white men... but the whole slave issue is as a result of white man only. We know even blacks in the US own slaves. Slavery was a vile lifestyle that was the norm and everyone was practicing such nonsense. you have a stupid friend. some of us have friends who help their friends try to settle over there, who opened their doors to them. I also had a friend I was feeding and housing in the UK. Not just him, there is a community of people like that who even do babysitting for others so they can settle and look for work. where will you meet these people? in the church. so because your friend is bad does not mean everyone is like him. this is why I have been saying there will always be racist people and it is normal. not everyone will like or love you. that is normal human behavior. I have accepted that fact. I love my friends in the UK and they loved me too. I experience few racists, less than 4 for all the years I have spent in the UK and each time my white friends want to react and I laugh and tell them not to. they should ignore... these racists experience are not often enough to bother me. almost always I am meeting nice people and that's all that matters. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:48am On Jan 28, 2023 |
wirinet: Of a racial group. That implies a black cop is racist if he stops a black driver? Because black drivers are more likely to be stopped and that is institutional racism. Playing with words. Will not buy that. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 9:50am On Jan 28, 2023 |
basilico: he should be ashamed of himself. He said i supported the murder of Tyre from what i posted Seriously brainwashed guy who cannot handle the truth. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 9:55am On Jan 28, 2023 |
benalvino3: Media has brainwashed him plus maybe college. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 10:01am On Jan 28, 2023 |
basilico: it is sad. these media who make excuses for blacks killing themselves every day and their violent lifestyle want to deflect evil black cops in an act of police brutality to race war. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 10:04am On Jan 28, 2023 |
basilico: That's a classic definition of institutional racism. Even black cops are more likely to stop and search black drivers than white drivers. See the research by Stanford University here - https://www.nyu.edu/about/news-publications/news/2020/may/black-drivers-more-likely-to-be-stopped-by-police.html 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:15am On Jan 28, 2023 |
wirinet: Plaing with words. That makes the black cops racist. Is there a reason blacks are more likely to be stopped? |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 10:15am On Jan 28, 2023 |
benalvino3: What do you mean by "their violent lifestyles"? Are you saying we blacks are more violent that you (white guys in black skin)? Are you insinuating black guys are more violent than Arabs, Caucasians, Chinese, Mongols, etc? If you are a student of history, you will know that blacks are the least violent of all the races. In fact before slavery/colonialisation, there were no record of any violence in black Africa. The only know warring tribe was the Zulu. Blacks in America are still trying to put the violence done on them for over 400 years behind them. I visited harlem, New York in 1986 and I almost cried for the blacks in that neighbourhood. I hear its much better now. That you don't have any sympathy for what blacks had gone through and are still going through in the US shows you really hate blacks. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 10:24am On Jan 28, 2023 |
basilico:I said institutional racism and not individual racism. Learn to read and decipher. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:30am On Jan 28, 2023 |
wirinet: The way CNN put it is that they were driven by racism. Black on black racism is what their screaming headline implies. 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 10:45am On Jan 28, 2023 |
wirinet: From what you said, you are just showing this discussion is way too advance for your brain. You have no understanding of anything. Go to Chicago and find out who is committing all the crimes killing brothers and why dems are quiet about it or excuse it. Why BLM never shows up for all the young black men dying before age 18. “In New York City alone, blacks are 23% [of the population]; they make up 75% of all shootings, 70% of all robberies, 60% of all violent crimes. White only 3%. That is why there are more blacks in jail than there are whites.” Now when you isolate women, and children as well as other ethnic groups like Nigerians and maybe Kenyans, you will realize that the numbers are even worse per capita. What stupid history have you learned? What does colonialism have to do with the violence going on in Chicago or the police brutality or the state of the black man in the US today? The Vikings were violent, or maybe more violent than the kingdom of Wakanda in 1820 so we can use that to compare today's America? Blacks killing themselves today you find a way to link it to 1984. 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 12:04pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 3:06pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
wirinet: Blacks kill themselves up and down instead of you to call them out for killing fellow brothers you make excuses for them that they are trying to put the violence done on them over 400years ago behind them. Violence non of them witness. Only professional victims make such statement. Ones that blames everything on something else and they are never responsible. If white man puts blacks down how do you fight? Bond together and support each other. Killing each other is not how you put bad history behind you. Also, how far back do they want to go? Will they reach the black people who enslave them and sold them to white men? 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 3:24pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
benalvino3: Have blacks been denied the opportunity to sel actualize? No I think they are even more favoured I recently started interacting with OpenAI what are the benefits that have been afforded to black people in America. Affirmative action does favour them, but what else In addition to affirmative action, there are a number of other benefits that have been afforded to black people in America. These include access to social welfare programs, such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and Social Security; access to educational opportunities, such as scholarships and grants; access to housing assistance programs; and access to employment opportunities, such as job training and job placement services. Additionally, black people in America have been afforded access to civil rights protections, such as the right to vote and the right to equal protection under the law. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 4:11pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Some of these posters. These cops are a good example of implicit bias. Many studies have been done on it in the health care industry. Speaks to why African Americans get more sub-standard health care than their white counterparts even from African American Doctors. It's part in Parcel of how African Americans are portrayed in the US by largely White media . https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/the-state-of-healthcare-in-the-united-states/racial-disparities-in-health-care/ Basilico and benalvino3 are perfect examples of this. They have never stepped foot in the US, don't really know US history but have a bias/angst against Black people because of the all conservative media they consume. It's actually very sad. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 4:37pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
IjeBos: Is it a question of having stepped foot in America. I will do it in the metaverse The author of that article is a privelleged black but has to justify why African Americans are lagging behind just like you using 400 years of slavely as an excuse. Basically implicit bias is inbuilt, or wired into the brain. Sexxed up with terms like micro-aggressions. In that case you need a re-education camp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSguud-t1kc 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 4:41pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
benalvino3: I know the long term effect of abuse is beyond the understanding of you guys. Only few people like Fela Kuti, Marcus Garvey, Mandela, Nkrumah, Patrice Lulumba, and a few others recognised the past and continuous abuse of Black Africans. Psychologists recognised the effects of early childhood trauma and dysfunctional family background on the future success of individuals and societies. African Americans watched their parents and grand parents suffer the discrimination/lunching/ racism that occured up to the 60s. Their own fathers and grandfather's experienced slavery. Even those that did not experience the racial crimes against blacks were told graphic stories by their parents and grand parents. This helps infect the next generation with the trauma and becomes a generational curse. Igbo youths who never experienced the Nigerian civil war still feel traumatised by the civil war and are more radicalised than their fathers who actually experienced the war. Another good example of this generational trauma/ curse is the black Arab relationship. Arabs having enslaved blacks for thousands of years will never accept black africans as equal. If you see the way they treat our brothers and sisters in Arab countries, you will weep for the black man. Africans (both at home and in diaspora) cannot Bond together and support each other, because the brotherhood bond was broken by slavery and colonalisation. The white man recuited other blacks (tribes, Kings, chiefs) to do his dirty work for material gains. This is why most neighbouring tribes/clans don't trust each other till today. Egbas don't trust ijebus, Ijaws don't trust Itsekiris, Arochukwu and Ibibio don't trust each other, and we are not even talking about tribes in Northern Nigeria yet. Please watch this video to have a glimpse of how we are still being exploited by the west and now China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaqgQvLn5sQ&feature=shares 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyfoxxMadness: 5:49pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
IjeBos: It’s the way you automatically assume everyone’s travel history that will never stop amazing me. Lmao. This fool really thinks it’s such an unfathomable thing that complete strangers he knows nothing about on an anonymous Internet forum have been to the US. Like I said it’s indicative of your poverty mentality the way you think you’re the only one on this forum to have entered America. Becuase it’s the biggest achievement of your otherwise miserable and pathetic life. Complete loser. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:52pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
SlyfoxxMadness: What do you expect from someone who has 9 certificates from Havard university? 9 certs from different levels of brainwashing. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:59pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
IjeBos: I have been here complaining about how No one says anything when Blacks kill each other, How they sweep it under the rug and how it is a bigger problem for the black community than anything they face today. I have always been very vocal in calling out blacks who kill brothers, calling out whites who kill brothers and I am also calling out entities who try to deflect responsibility to other races especially when it has nothing to do with race. By your stupid analogy that has nothing to do with this inhumane killing of Tyre, as you say black doctors discriminate against blacks as well... one could argue the Victim here Tyre would have loved to die in the hands of a white man. he is biased against his killers as they are biased against him. unless you start to call a spade a spade, the black community in the US will be hell for blacks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ0QfLkjujY 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyfoxxMadness: 6:01pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
benalvino3: The boy is such a fool I swear. I’ve told him multiple times he talks like a primary school kid. Going to America is such a big thing to him LMAO. I don’t really have time I would have made a collage of all his posts assuming or outright asserting that the person he is speaking to has never been to America lol. The only evidence he needs to convince himself a person has never been to the US is if they don’t agree with his garbage liberal political views or see the world through skewed leftist lenses lol. Such a retardd I swear. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 6:32pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
benalvino3: To begin, you don't know what I've done or what organizations or programs I've started or am involved in trying to reduce/intervene in black on black/inner city violence. And if you did, you'd probably shut your mouth. But the issue of Black on Black violence is different than violence based on institutional bias/racism. And your argument seems to be, we should be quiet about institutional racism until we wipe out Black on Black violence. How is that different than we should have been quiet about Institutionalized segregation until we had wiped out black on black violence? Or we should have been quiet about slavery until we wiped out black on black violence? Fortunately for you, you and your ilk didn't have that say. Tell me this, Nigeria has been independent for 60 years. Why isn't at the same place (economically and technologically as Western Countries?) It must mean Black Nigerians are not as smart as Westerners right? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:32pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
SlyfoxxMadness: As I said, he is not new here. he really has a childish mentality. 5 black men killed another black man... they are here claiming they did it because of the white men. 400 years ago, white men went to Africa and bought black men black people were captured as slaves and as a result, anything they do is not their fault, they were slaves at some point, I mean their ancestors were slaves. you got to wonder how the Normans were living with England back in the day. 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 6:50pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
IjeBos:Whatever program you have started, if you come here making excuses for black men who kill other black men by blaming whites then your Organisation is stupid as Bleep. Ibime has been dragged and cursed for siding with a white cop who shoot and killed a black girl in the process of killing another black girl. Your kind here were calling the cop racist for saving the life of a black girl from another black girl. James responded to the shooting nearly 24 hours after it happened and after body camera footage had already been released by tweeting a photograph of the police officer who shot the girl and writing, “YOU’RE NEXT. #ACCOUNTABILITY.” James included an emoji of an hour glass, which is used to signify that time is running out. Everything is racism. LeBron is a good example of that. he has all the information, he knows what happened in Ohio, it is not just acceptable that a white man should use deadly force on a black person who wants to kill another black person. in other words, Blacks should kill each other up and down. it is okay as long as it's not whites that are doing it. IjeBos:Five black men killed a black man, you are coming to tell me it is institutional bias. Are you saying it is normal? because these 5 black men are men the institution is biased against as well. just as you know the institution is biased against you, they should know it is biased against them as well. and just as you convinced yourself that the white man is putting you down and other blacks, they should know the same and bond together to stand against the institution. but they have killed a man and you are tying it to the white man. IjeBos: what does this have to do with the dude that died? you said the bold not me and this is unrelated to what we are discussing. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 7:10pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
wirinet:They kept striking him repeatedly till he began screaming for his mother, and if Mr. Nichols was white, they (the cops) would likely be more lenient. A white man in Nigeria would even get much better treatment. Effects of colonialism. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:28pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Enugurangers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OflGwyWcft8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQFEodxMZOQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZES6s4tBJM this one documents one officer brutalizing both blacks and white. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izxNzd_0SvQ this are just few in so many police brutality on white people. you never hear about them. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 7:56pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
benalvino3:In your videos, the police doing the brutality are white. But Let me rephrase my previous post: 1. And if that Mr. Nichols was white, they (the Black cops) would likely be more lenient. 2. A white man in Nigeria would even get much better treatment. Effects of COLONIALISM. White people get preferential treatment in Nigeria and that's a FACT. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 8:01pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Enugurangers: Should I laugh or cry, In reality more whites are killed by police than blacks. Last yea 32% whites Vs 23% blacks. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 8:02pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
basilico:This is a different topic entirely. Stay on the topic please. Ps: There are more white people in the USA, and If I dig into rates, I might even start finding loopholes in your claim on this different topic. 0.32 x population of whites in the USA. 0.24 x population of blacks in the USA. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:11pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
Enugurangers: laugh wan kill me. Blacks complain white people are putting them down, systemic racism here and there, then turn around and treat the white man better than they with treat their brother and then blame the white man for it 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 8:22pm On Jan 28, 2023 |
benalvino3: Let's be clear this discussion is about the police involved killing of a black man. You brought up the issue of black on black violence as a deflection from that topic. The fact that you think the implicit bias shown by black doctors is not related to why black cops would brutally beat a black man shows your lack of depth of this issue. I'll post a clip of a peer reviewed study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4843483/ Lastly, let me put this in a more as$holy perspective. I live in an affluent neighborhood 15 minutes from the downtown in my city. 9/10 of my neighbors are white. We don't have significant issues of violence, crime etc. What issue effects me more? Being pulled over/beat up driving my "nice" car or some other African Americans killing themselves in the inner city? That's the asshole way of really thinking about it. Simply, why should my ability to protest to the government, issues that most affect my liberties depend on someone else and what they do? And what other community has to argue for their whole community for their rights? The fact you keep making the argument "why aren't we talking about other black on black violence" is in fact an implicit bias you've been trained to believe. 2 Likes 1 Share
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