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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 1:48am On Jan 29, 2023
Enugurangers:

Even Africans are blaming colonialism for lack of development. They are not completely wrong. See how factories have been converted to churches all over Nigeria. Even, you could have 5 churches on a street with 20 houses.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:58am On Jan 29, 2023
benalvino3:


implicit bias and colonialism make these black women treat white infants like a bag of cement. https://twitter.com/DVATW/status/1618873903304294401?s=20&t=QOWnwuWR4gwIfnGVMDeliw discrimination is everywhere.
when you see Igbo men, Yoruba and Hausa, etc... destroy this country with madness you will blame it on 400 years of slavery.
I remember once, in a meeting at the office, our manager was openly saying he is tribalistic. The sad part is, He has a Canadian passport. his children are there but he is in Nigeria with his wife earning loads running our Port Harcourt field office. I lost a lot of respect for him after he said that.

some people here are blaming all the nonsense we are doing on colonialism. religion and tribalism does not play a role.

people don't understand that there will always be a sect, or set in life. people will identify with their kind and be biased towards others. it is normal human behavior.

Why did you "lost a lot of respect for him after he said that" if it is normal human behaviour?

It used to be "normal human behaviour" in England to not let to dogs Irish and blacks, but it isn't anymore because that stupidness was taught out of people.

It is not human behaviour to be tribalistic, racist, sexist, ageist, religoist etc etc. It is plain ignorance. The learned type.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyfoxxMadness: 4:33am On Jan 29, 2023
IjeBos:


I'm speaking of my experience driving expensive cars in Nigeria. I assumed that was the topic you were talking about. From which experience driving expensive cars are you speaking from?

Yes, I would have assumed what you thought, but I've had a couple of experiences that taught me otherwise. The only time I think you won't get stopped is when in a convoy of expensive cars w/ a Helix in front.
[/b]I've been pulled over in the East in my Dad's Mercedes SUV[b] by road safety, while an overloaded bus, with mis-matched tires spewing black smoke was in front of me and didn't get stopped. By you theory who should have road safety pulled over?
And as you've mentioned I've been in that dangerous situation (out of movie) where someone attempted to stop me at a checkpoint [/b]while I had a mopo/soldier in the passenger seat in a tinted car. They quickly let us pass as the driver slowed down and the mopo opened the window and pulled up his gun. [b]
I've been pulled over a couple of times [/b]while driving an expensive car in Lagos. I've been pulled over with my girl while she drove her expensive car in Lagos[b]. I drove to the east one year from Lagos and we took my cousin's Sienna [/b]instead of a nicer car.[b] And what was funny, though we got pulled over some (Christmas), the guy in front of us, was driving a Brand New red Mercedes GLE. And every checkpoint he would stop, roll down his window, drop cash and drive off. Lol. Because he knew it was more efficient than being forced to stop, arguing your case and saving 1or 2k. We kept laughing everything we saw him do that.
The difference from my experience is that they are somewhat more careful pulling over nicer cars. Like I can be somewhat more abusive with them [/b]esp. given my accent, because they aren't sure who I am.[b] And as to Dangote, he would most likely be in a convoy with multiple Helixes if he were traveling.




Delusions of grandeur grin grin

Small pikin talk grin grin

The musings of a broke urchin trying to feel big on the internet grin grin


Benalvino3 my guy don’t fall for his puffery. I trust you to recognize the signs of a bullshit artist and pathological liar like him. Someone that was feeling big with unopened N50k bottle of Hennessy In a cheap 2 star hotel/motel room grin grin

He’s just another broke and frustrated Akata boy living on credit like they all do while thinking he’s bigger than all home based Nigerians. He’s a con artist bro. You give him way too much time and seriousness.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyfoxxMadness: 4:57am On Jan 29, 2023
IjeBos:


I'm speaking of my experience driving expensive cars in Nigeria. I assumed that was the topic you were talking about. From which experience driving expensive cars are you speaking from?

Yes, I would have assumed what you thought, but I've had a couple of experiences that taught me otherwise. The only time I think you won't get stopped is when in a convoy of expensive cars w/ a Helix in front.
I've been pulled over in the East in my Dad's Mercedes SUV by road safety, while an overloaded bus, with mis-matched tires spewing black smoke was in front of me and didn't get stopped. By you theory who should have road safety pulled over?
And as you've mentioned I've been in that dangerous situation (out of movie) where someone attempted to stop me at a checkpoint while I had a mopo/soldier in the passenger seat in a tinted car. They quickly let us pass as the driver slowed down and the mopo opened the window and pulled up his gun.
I've been pulled over a couple of times while driving an expensive car in Lagos. I've been pulled over with my girl while she drove her expensive car in Lagos. I drove to the east one year from Lagos and we took my cousin's Sienna instead of a nicer car. And what was funny, though we got pulled over some (Christmas), the guy in front of us, was driving a Brand New red Mercedes GLE. And every checkpoint he would stop, roll down his window, drop cash and drive off. Lol. Because he knew it was more efficient than being forced to stop, arguing your case and saving 1or 2k. We kept laughing everything we saw him do that.
The difference from my experience is that they are somewhat more careful pulling over nicer cars. Like I can be somewhat more abusive with them esp. given my accent, because they aren't sure who I am. And as to Dangote, he would most likely be in a convoy with multiple Helixes if he were traveling.



Only Mercedes’ SUV?? Ahn ahn guy you fall my hand ooooo. That’s all your hapless FATHER can afford?

First of all, the fact that you’re still driving your dads car when you visit Nigeria alone tells us everything we need to know about your age and level of success. I knew you were a kid bro grin grin But let’s leave that one aside…

I was expecting the father of a whole nairaland chairman like you to at least own a Bentley, Maybach, Roller or something more exotic like that. So upon all the noise you’ve been making in our ear of how stupendously rich you are it’s common Benz SUV that your FATHER is driving grin grin grin

You really have a very low estimation of the caliber of people you are taking to on this thread bro..with the kind of things you try to impress us with.
It’s a common trait among you broke Akata people I’ve noticed. Just like how 1stGenAmerican was trying to impress us with her miserly $5k savings grin grin grin grin

Bloody clowns.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyfoxxMadness: 5:35am On Jan 29, 2023
IjeBos:


I've been pulled over with my girl while she drove her expensive car in Lagos.


Who else noticed how much this fool suddenly started talking about “his girl” since the day me and weregonnalose called him out for being gay after he dropped pictures of his romantic candle-light dinner with another man? grin grin

Baba drop the act. We know you’re a batty boy. No need to feel ashamed..we are all modern here.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:40am On Jan 29, 2023
There is profiling everywhere and based on past behavior. Profiling is part of human life and everyone of us profile people based on certain characteristics and our mind believes some things about them before you even speak to them

In Nigeria if you are a middle aged 40-60yr old wearing suit or natives. Police won't stop you if they see you driving any car even a Mercedes because they believe you are old enough to have that money


But if they see a 20 or early 30 looking and dressed casually driving an expensive car, their immediate thought is that he cannot have the money to afford that life so he's likely to be involved in something illegal yahoo or drugs

In Nigeria, There are some landlords who won't rent to guys in their 20s who work from home or young ladies without a husband but they won't raise eyebrows about a young guy who leaves home at 7am everyday for work or the same young woman with a husband


Ask yourself if they say a criminal is on the lose in Yaba you see an old woman in her 60s, a young woman her 20s, an old man in his 60s, a young man in his 20s who are you likely to suspect?

If you see a young lady dressed skimpy at night in a dimly lit street around Allen Avenue, you might think this is an olosho looking for customer, while if you see the same lady dressed up in pant suit at the same spot the same time another day, you might think Oh poor Zenith Bank chic staff bus dropped her late. Hope she's safe.


Same in America there are certain lifestyle demographics and behaviors that attract cops regardless of your race.

If you drive certain type of cars - A pimped up Cadillac escalade is likely to be picked up than a Mercedes S550,

a young black man in his 20s in likely to be pulled over than an older 50yr old black man

Young white kids decked up like a Rockstar or a rapper you're likely to get profiled than the same young white kid dressed up like he's resuming at an IT job or catching the train to his accounting job

I have been pulled up by police three times in America one I was speeding in a construction zone, at night and he gave me a ticket.

second I was using cell phone while driving in New Jersey (which is illegal) i didnt know as I came from out of town for a project. He gave me a ticket

third my registration had expired. The cop checked my papers and gave me the location of a store where I can renew the registration without giving me a ticket
All the cops I faced were white

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyfoxxMadness: 5:45am On Jan 29, 2023
basilico:
This liberal. à man of Asia kills 10 in a shooting
She blames whiteys


https://twitter.com/LeftismForU/status/1617221336048230400/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1617221336048230400&currentTweetUser=LeftismForU

Did you see this one? She had to lock her account after the news revealed the shooter was Asian.

These people are genuinely heartless and evil people. They act like they are grieved but they really care nothing about the people who died. Every tragedy is just an opportunity for them to attack Trump and score political points against republicans.

It’s not a joke when we say these people are sick.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:39am On Jan 29, 2023
budaatum:


Why did you "lost a lot of respect for him after he said that" if it is normal human behaviour?

It used to be "normal human behaviour" in England to not let to dogs Irish and blacks, but it isn't anymore because that stupidness was taught out of people.

It is not human behaviour to be tribalistic, racist, sexist, ageist, religoist etc etc. It is plain ignorance. The learned type.

Dude, being ignorant is part of human behvavior. Killing stealing and jealousy, cheating lying etc are all part of human behavior. You cannot eliminate those things. Now some are crimes, but it is not a crime to be racist or hate someone. It is not a crime for people to he jealous or cheat on their spouse. Even if all are crimes, it is still things humans do.

I lost respect for him because it was disappointing to say the least. Because it is a normal human behavior to go to war or be tribalistic does not mean I should not be disappointed.

You budaatum often side with people who support your political views, even if they are lying or say rubbish, you tend to support them. That's a set or people you identify with.

Your hate for trump is implicit bias. Your hate for racist is implicit bias, your hate for the white man is implicit bias. Your love for abortion is implicit bias. Since black people killing themselves is the fault of a WHITE man because of colonialism and implicit bias, anything you do is as a result of the words said above.

You are no longer responsible grin for your actions. 400 years of slavery and the trauma you are facing is to blame.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 7:45am On Jan 29, 2023
SlyfoxxMadness:



Delusions of grandeur grin grin

Small pikin talk grin grin

The musings of a broke urchin trying to feel big on the internet grin grin


Benalvino3 my guy don’t fall for his puffery. I trust you to recognize the signs of a bullshit artist and pathological liar like him. Someone that was feeling big with unopened N50k bottle of Hennessy In a cheap 2 star hotel/motel room grin grin

He’s just another broke and frustrated Akata boy living on credit like they all do while thinking he’s bigger than all home based Nigerians. He’s a con artist bro. You give him way too much time and seriousness.

You see as I stopped responding to him and how basilico summarize his bs. I have never seen someone like him in my life.

We were talking about police profiling and the fear they have for different class of people. Dude turns it into I am rich, dada is rich, babe is filthy rich. Why does someone feel they can't help themselves and brag up and down. The other day, I did not ask him o. He started showing off stuff to the point he embarrassed himself in a car. Na wao

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyfoxxMadness: 8:25am On Jan 29, 2023
benalvino3:


You see as I stopped responding to him and how basilico summarize his bs. I have never seen someone like him in my life.

We were talking about police profiling and the fear they have for different class of people. Dude turns it into I am rich, dada is rich, babe is filthy rich. Why does someone feel they can't help themselves and brag up and down. The other day, I did not ask him o. He started showing off stuff to the point he embarrassed himself in a car. Na wao


I’ve been observing your back and forth with him for a while. You are way too mature for him so there’s really no point. Dude cannot even hold his own in a strictly ideological debate and defend his positions without getting personal and going on a tirade about how rich he is in America and how you’re suffering in Nigeria LMAO. What does that have to do with anything?

…You have not once revealed anything about your own personal life even though I can tell from your engagements that you are an educated, exposed and well traveled person. They just automatically assume once you’re Naija based you must be suffering here and have never travelled LMAO. Even the fool admitted his father is Naija based so is the man suffering too? Such a childish mentality.

Baba this is how you know the person you’re debating cannot match you intellectually.. when they are quick to turn it personal and try to diminish you materially. Thats what he always does and thats why I stopped taking him and 1stGenAmerican seriously and started trolling them instead. They are both the same in this regard. It’s an intellectual mismatch whenever I debate them. I feel like I’m schooling little kids.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyfoxxMadness: 9:03am On Jan 29, 2023
basilico:


When I studied literature I was taught to summarize which I will do to your post
You are rich,your girlfriend has money and your parents are well off.

Gbam! That’s all he really wanted to say in that long epistle he wrote grin grin

“I’m rich don’t argue with me”

Such a snotty little child that guy.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 10:43am On Jan 29, 2023
Enugurangers:

I think you are easily deceived. That's why you fall to all sort of fake news and conspiracy. The tanks are yet to be delivered.

Satire. Babylon Bee is a satire site.
They are making fun of the US going so much into LBGTQ that they even hang gay pride flags on the battle tanks on the front lines .
Looks like you dont know what satire is. Maybe you should get a refund from your high school. smiley smiley

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 11:08am On Jan 29, 2023
benalvino3:


maybe it has to do with class than colonialism.
Dress up a black man from the gutter and put in a tuxedo and in a Lamborghini and send him to a place where you have both white and black workers.

then do the reverse on a white man who lives in a mansion but is not known, dresses him in a rag and sends him to the same location, and tells me who they will show more respect to.
most of the issues we have in this world today are based on class rather than racism. that's not to say racism is not a problem, I am saying we should not blame everything on racism.

This i agree with.

The thing is black Americans have a disproportionately higher rate of poverty.
So the line between the racism and classism gets blurred.

But a tell for systematic racism would be if you had a black and white guy who were equally dressed and equally poor/rich, and you trow them in the same situation, would there be a more of less favorable treatment to one person over the other?
And how consistent is that difference in treatment?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 11:35am On Jan 29, 2023
SlyfoxxMadness:


Did you see this one? She had to lock her account after the news revealed the shooter was Asian.

These people are genuinely heartless and evil people. They act like they are grieved but they really care nothing about the people who died. Every tragedy is just an opportunity for them to attack Trump and score political points against republicans.

It’s not a joke when we say these people are sick.

Leftists knowingly spread lies to advance their agenda. They seek to divide the population. Their end game is to consolidate power and they have useful idiots like this one advancing their cause.
How do they divide the people. By breaking up family unit , getting rid of God , affirmative action agitation, bringing up race, playing victim every little chance they get,
The minions are sick. They are being used by those in power .

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 11:44am On Jan 29, 2023
basilico:


Leftists knowingly spread lies to advance their agenda. They seek to divide the population. Their end game is to consolidate power and they have useful idiots like this one advancing their cause.
How do they divide the people. By breaking up family unit , getting rid of God , affirmative action agitation, bringing up race, playing victim every little chance they get,
The minions are sick. They are being used by those in power .

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by SlyfoxxMadness: 1:32pm On Jan 29, 2023
basilico:


Satire. Babylon Bee is a satire site.
They are making fun of the US going so much into LBGTQ that they even hang gay pride flags on the battle tanks on the front lines .
Looks like you dont know what satire is. Maybe you should get a refund from your high school. smiley smiley

Lol this happens all the time. They are so deranged by politics that they don’t even recognize satire or when conservatives are blatantly just trolling them. grin
Everything is war to them. Such unhappy people these liberals are.

That’s how the old Twitter management kept suspending the Babylon bee and other parody accounts for spreading “disinformation” when anybody with a normal functioning brain could tell their content were obviously parody and not meant to be taken seriously. Lol

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:04pm On Jan 29, 2023
IMAliyu2:

This i agree with.

The thing is black Americans have a disproportionately higher rate of poverty.
So the line between the racism and classism gets blurred.

But a tell for systematic racism would be if you had a black and white guy who were equally dressed and equally poor/rich, and you trow them in the same situation, would there be a more of less favorable treatment to one person over the other?
And how consistent is that difference in treatment?
Even among poor people there are patterns of behavior that are likely to be shown by one group vs the other

These 3 crimes below were committed by poor people in a US city from your little knowledge which race do you think is likely to have committed each of the below between a white, black or Hispanic

1. Gangs shooting
2. School shooting
3. Cartel related shooting

Another 3 below
1. Cooking and selling meth or fentanyl
2. Selling Crack by the roadside
3. Smuggling and selling cocaine across border

If your mind without more information than the above is already thinking hmm this is likely to be a white guy, a black guy or a Hispanic guy then that's the same way many people including law enforcement would have seen the situation too
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:31pm On Jan 29, 2023
IMAliyu2:

This i agree with.

The thing is black Americans have a disproportionately higher rate of poverty.
So the line between the racism and classism gets blurred.

But a tell for systematic racism would be if you had a black and white guy who were equally dressed and equally poor/rich, and you trow them in the same situation, would there be a more of less favorable treatment to one person over the other?
And how consistent is that difference in treatment?

Yes, two equally dressed people (you can't really tell rich/poor by appearance if equally dressed and manicured) are in the same situation, the black person will get treated worse in the US. Happens to me all the time. I was in a Staples picking up supplies in a dress shirt and slacks with other white people near me dressed the same way. Some white lady walked up to where I was and asked me if they had some item in stock as if I worked there. Lol.

Another perspective. Tribalism is still alive and well in the Nigeria (edited) in this generation. Why wouldn't the same racial tribalism still be around in the US, less than 60 years after the civil rights act was passed.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 3:35pm On Jan 29, 2023
benalvino3:


You see as I stopped responding to him and how basilico summarize his bs. I have never seen someone like him in my life.

We were talking about police profiling and the fear they have for different class of people. Dude turns it into I am rich, dada is rich, babe is filthy rich. Why does someone feel they can't help themselves and brag up and down. The other day, I did not ask him o. He started showing off stuff to the point he embarrassed himself in a car. Na wao

Stop this silliness. I came to this topic and didn't discuss my personal life. Stayed away from where I went to school, what I do, where I work etc.. When did I start releasing some personal details? When you and your "idiot crew" decided you couldn't make rational arguments and thought ad hominin attacks were easier. I told you then you don't know my type and I would embarrass you with details of my life, if you continued. And yet here we are and here you continue. I'm not like Sly.. who lies with every breath… maybe that's what you're used to. The stuff I say I can verify.

And the topic we were discussing were police profiling people driving expensive cars. All the examples I gave were police profiling me and stopping/attempting to stop me while driving an expensive car. I thought the examples perfectly made my point. You should explore maybe with a counselor why someone discussing details like that seems like "showing off" to you.

And Honestly, you should reevaluate the people you seek affirmation from. The fact, you seek affirmation from someone who makes usernames and gets banned like he sips water, who viciously attacks people and their families in crude, depraved and disgusting ways, speaks more of you then them. And clearly, you've tried to walk in his shadow; how is that working out for you? But continue talking about my education, or what I do in my spare time, or how much money I have and we'll continue to have conversations when you feel like I'm "showing off". FYI, no amount of gaslighting/revisionist history will change how this began. Your posts are saved here.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 3:41pm On Jan 29, 2023
raumdeuter:

Even among poor people there are patterns of behavior that are likely to be shown by one group vs the other

These 3 crimes below were committed by poor people in a US city from your little knowledge which race do you think is likely to have committed each of the below between a white, black or Hispanic

1. Gangs shooting
2. School shooting
3. Cartel related shooting

Another 3 below
1. Cooking and selling meth or fentanyl
2. Selling Crack by the roadside
3. Smuggling and selling cocaine across border

If your mind without more information than the above is already thinking hmm this is likely to be a white guy, a black guy or a Hispanic guy then that's the same way many people including law enforcement would have seen the situation too
True, but isn't this the thing sociological analysis calls "Implicit Bias"?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 3:48pm On Jan 29, 2023
IjeBos:


Stop this silliness. I came to this topic and didn't discuss my personal life. Stayed away from where I went to school, what I do, where I work etc.. When did I start releasing some personal details? When you and your "idiot crew" decided you couldn't make rational arguments and thought ad hominin attacks were easier. I told you then you don't know my type and I would embarrass you with details of my life, if you continued. And yet here we are and here you continue. I'm not like Sly.. who lies with every breath… maybe that's what you're used to. The stuff I say I can verify.

And the topic we were discussing were police profiling people driving expensive cars. All the examples I gave were police profiling me and stopping/attempting to stop me while driving an expensive car. I thought the examples perfectly made my point. You should explore maybe with a counselor why someone discussing details like that seems like "showing off" to you.

And Honestly, you should reevaluate the people you seek affirmation from. The fact, you seek affirmation from someone who makes usernames and gets banned like he sips water, who viciously attacks people and their families in crude, depraved and disgusting ways, speaks more of you then them. And clearly, you've tried to walk in his shadow; how is that working out for you? But continue talking about my education, or what I do in my spare time, or how much money I have and we'll continue to have conversations when you feel like I'm "showing off". FYI, no amount of gaslighting/revisionist history will change how this began. Your posts are saved here.

You are so immature I wonder if you have stop being breast fed.

First of all, you came here with poop mentality saying anyone who disagree with you and has not been to the US can't have an opinion. Because of that mentality, I said you sound like ode... Professional notice me. And you might not be in the US because you don't behave like someone over there. You put out a passport after our exchange. Okay, confirmed, since then you started using every little avenue to brag. The other time I didn't ask you. You brag about your certificates. I did not respond to you. You went on to brag you are eating crap I don't know and drinking crap someone gave you. I did not respond, then you post a meal you are having, I did not respond and you still went on to post a car which you were dragged and belittled for bragging with someone's car. I did not respond. Now we were talking about Nigeria and the police don't risk stopping a big man that may land them in trouble. You turned it into car contest. My paps this, my this, my girlfriend this.

By now you should know I don't give a blip about you. Even if you have 8 private jets, it does not affect my life in positive or negative way. I don't care, most people here don't care. Your enjoyment means nothing to me. Try to grow up.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:50pm On Jan 29, 2023
IMAliyu2:

True, but isn't this the thing sociological analysis calls "Implicit Bias"?

You can call it implicit bias but I don't even think it is because most times your initial hunch is right

If you are a police officer you are about solving crimes and not writing sociology theories. You want to catch a criminal quickly not to appear correct

You are told that a bank robbery just happened, will you go or send your sheriff's to the next retirement home or pre teen girls dormitory just to appear to be unbiased or you send them to where some young men are known to gather?

All these scenarios you already made your initial opinion with little information, does that make you a racist?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:02pm On Jan 29, 2023
IMAliyu2:

True, but isn't this the thing sociological analysis calls "Implicit Bias"?

When and antelope goes to drink, it will be fine when it sees and elephant beside it. But when it's a lion it will be spooked. That is an implicit bias?

No one is born with implicit bias for certain people. The way you dress when you enter a car dealership will determine how serious they will take you. This has nothing to do with race.

If a certain group is known for certain kind of behavior, then you will have a preconceived or have some kind of prejudice against that group of people.

When we hear of school shooting, we hardly think it's could be a black man. But when we hear of street shooting we hardly think it could be a white man.

These things are shaped by the media we consumed and what we experience as we grow.

Some people here make the argument that blacks killing blacks are as a result of poverty. No. Blacks robbing are as a result of poverty and its not even all. To some its a culture. You have folks who have made it in life, some make money through rapping, but they want that culture and they want to get involved in crimes. They glorify the culture through their music and what happens? People, some of them who are supposed to be in school will drop out to take a short cut. Notorious, jay-z etc. I believe have rapped about dropping out of school to hustle. Hustling involve many illegal behavior.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 4:02pm On Jan 29, 2023
benalvino3:


You are so immature I wonder if you have stop being breast fed.

First of all, you came here with poop mentality saying anyone who disagree with you and has not been to the US can't have an opinion. Because of that mentality, I said you sound like ode... Professional notice me. And you might not be in the US because you don't behave like someone over there. You put out a passport after our exchange. Okay, confirmed, since then you started using every little avenue to brag. The other time I didn't ask you. You brag about your certificates. I did not respond to you. You went on to brag you are eating crap I don't know and drinking crap someone gave you. I did not respond, then you post a meal you are having, I did not respond and you still went on to post a car which you were dragged and belittled for bragging with someone's car. I did not respond. Now we were talking about Nigeria and the police don't risk stopping a big man that may land them in trouble. You turned it into car contest. My paps this, my this, my girlfriend this.

By now you should know I don't give a blip about you. Even if you have 8 private jets, it does not affect my life in positive or negative way. I don't care, most people here don't care. Your enjoyment means nothing to me. Try to grow up.

Again, you, basilico and sly, speak with authority about and inundate this board with nonsense about topics like US politics, US racial bias, US racism and what black people face in the US. You don't have a US history degree, have never studied the US and have been to nor live in the US. Where does this authority come from? Nowhere that is. And yet you are trying to tell Nigerians living in the US what their lives are like and disqualify the issues they face. Humble yourself.

And as I said. This post below is how it all started. You and your ad hominems and of course your chickens (you see, if I chose to I could be nasty to you, but what does what you do in your spare time have to do with this thread?).

benalvino3:


You are allergic but you are almost here 247 looking for attention from those you claimed to be allergic to. poor you. No friends and family to spend your time with. You are more like the sonoflincoln grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:04pm On Jan 29, 2023
IjeBos:

Again, you speak with authority about politics, racial bias, racism and what black people face in the US. You don't have a US history degree, have never studied the US and have been nor visitied to the US. Where does this authority come from? Nowhere that is. And yet you are trying to tell Nigerians living in the US what their lives are like and disqualify the issues they face. Humble yourself.

And as I said. This post below is how it all started. You and your ad hominems and of course your chickens (you see, if I chose to I could be nasty to you, but I haven't chosen to, what would what you do in your spare time have to do with this thread?).


You can't tell me how to speak. Also, I don't need history to know that 5black cops killing an innocent black man has nothing to do with 400years ago and the negros who were in the plantation. It has nothing to do with the trauma of slavery they did not witness.

You don't need history to have common sense

Also, no family and friends spend time with you does not invite you to start sending me photos of Benz.

I said that because of the time you were spending here was more than all of us combined. It is nice that you don't spend much time here anymore.

Leave the thread if you cannot handle basilico and I. You know the title of the thread right?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 4:12pm On Jan 29, 2023
benalvino3:


You can't tell me how to speak. Also, I don't need history to know that 5black cops killing an innocent black man has nothing to do with 400years ago and the negros who were in the plantation. It has nothing to do with the trauma of slavery they did not witness.

You don't need history to have common sense

Also, no family and friends spend time with you does not invite you to start sending me photos of Benz.

I said that because of the time you were spending here was more than all of us combined. It is nice that you don't spend much time here anymore.

Leave the thread if you cannot handle basilico and I. You know the title of the thread right?

Any you know that how? From what experience or understanding are you speaking? None. So everyone who studies topics in University or cultural anthropologists who go live in a place to understand the culture are mumus because they should be like you and just pick up things by osmosis? In your quest to assuage your ego, you make yourself sound uneducated.

You shouldn't attack someone then if you can't handle what comes next. But, you're problem seems to be I can afford nicer things. Again, go talk to someone about that.

And the time I spent here more than you combined? Lol. Do I need to put up my chart of your online usage again?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 4:16pm On Jan 29, 2023
IjeBos:


Any you know that how? From what experience or understanding are you speaking? None. So everyone who studies topics in University or cultural anthropologists who go live in a place to understand the culture are mumus because they should be like you and just pick up things by osmosis? In your quest to assuage your ego, you make yourself sound uneducated.

Because I have not been to the US so when I say Tyre was killed by 5cops, it must not be true even if I read in on the news, social media or see it on TV. For it to be true, I have to get a visa and come to the US first.

Were you alive 400 years ago? Did you experience slavery or both of us are at the mercy of the historians?
This is why I said you have poop mentality and you need to grow up.

In the US, you are in Boston. You can't have opinion on what's going on in Memphis because you are Not there.

University professors today cannot define what a woman is, they are claiming men can have babies and period and you are happy they are brainwashing you.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:29pm On Jan 29, 2023
benalvino3:


When and antelope goes to drink, it will be fine when it sees and elephant beside it. But when it's a lion it will be spooked. That is an implicit bias?

No one is born with implicit bias for certain people. The way you dress when you enter a car dealership will determine how serious they will take you. This has nothing to do with race.

If a certain group is known for certain kind of behavior, then you will have a preconceived or have some kind of prejudice against that group of people.

When we hear of school shooting, we hardly think it's could be a black man. But when we hear of street shooting we hardly think it could be a white man.

These things are shaped by the media we consumed and what we experience as we grow.

I remember there was a workplace shooting somewhere around Virginia some years back. Many immediately thought oh another white guy later turned out to be a black.

Like the example you gave about the antelope that's a good one too. Which was based on previous experience

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 4:33pm On Jan 29, 2023
benalvino3:


Because I have not been to the US so when I say Tyre was killed by 5cops, it must not be true even if I read in on the news, social media or see it on TV. For it to be true, I have to get a visa and come to the US first.

Were you alive 400 years ago? Did you experience slavery or both of us are at the mercy of the historians?
This is why I said you have poop mentality and you need to grow up.

In the US, you are in Boston. You can't have opinion on what's going on in Memphis because you are Not there.

University professors today cannot define what a woman is, they are claiming men can have babies and period and you are happy they are brainwashing you.

That post was a stream of nonsense. Until you explain why cultural anthropologists go live in the place they are studying, everything else you say sounds silly.

One more thing. You regularly post about the chickens you raised. Regularly post about how you give most of them away. So, regularly, I asked you about them. Let me ask you, how is that not showing off esp. given this isn't a chicken topic. Esp. for those that in this time of Nigerian economic distress and food insecurity, those who probably can't afford a chicken? Again how is that not showing off that not only you have so many but that you are so benevolent you can give them out? Again, figure out why me talking about my experience with Naija police has you triggered and feels like me showing off while you talking about all the chickens you have and give away is not. I know the answer.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 4:51pm On Jan 29, 2023
raumdeuter:


You can call it implicit bias but I don't even think it is because most times your initial hunch is right

If you are a police officer you are about solving crimes and not writing sociology theories. You want to catch a criminal quickly not to appear correct

You are told that a bank robbery just happened, will you go or send your sheriff's to the next retirement home or pre teen girls dormitory just to appear to be unbiased or you send them to where some criminals are known to gather?

All these scenarios you already made your initial opinion with little information, does that make you a racist?
If I were an officer I'd like to catch the actual criminal, and I'd prefer if I could do it quickly. By working with the available evidence and witness reports, to pursue the lead.

A cop following a lead and having an opinion based off experience and evidence, this isn't racist. That's just part of the job.

But a cop assuming guilt, from their initial opinion, especially if there's very little evidence is by definition prejudice.

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