Workch:
It's the said reality, no one will ever be able to know if God exist or not because it's scientifically impossible.

Some few things are impossible in science, examples are

1. Attaining absolute zero temperate.
2. An object with mass traveling at the speed of light
3. Look back in time to see what happened before big bang.

No 3 is why we can never know if God exist or not, in science, there's nothing like "before big bang" because time doesn't exist before big ban hence we cannot decipher anything in that realm. There's no mathematical prove to do that, it's simple impossible. Light also didn't exist before big bang, so we cannot see anything within the singularity.

No 2 requires that we create an infinite amount of energy to move such object. It's not possible, the universe doesn't have that amount of energy. The energy in the universe is quantifiable and conserved.


No1 The reason has to do with the amount of work necessary to remove heat from a substance, which increases substantially the colder you try to go. To reach zero kelvins, you would require an infinite amount of work.


Humans will never know if God exist or not. It's as simple as that. This is specifically why I don't know if a god exist or not. I don't believe or disbelieve it


jaephoenix

yrhuhfy113:

Next time, do your quality research before opening threads.

there are too many SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN EVIDENCES.... from WORMHOLES, TO TIME VARIATIONS, TO OUR DNA STRUCTURE, TO EVOLUTION.... etc



HERE IS ONE EVIDENCE.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuUR7v7hkOQ

yrhuhfy113:

Next time, do your quality research before opening threads.

there are too many SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN EVIDENCES.... from WORMHOLES, TO TIME VARIATIONS, TO OUR DNA STRUCTURE, TO EVOLUTION.... etc



HERE IS ONE EVIDENCE.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuUR7v7hkOQ

yrhuhfy113:

Next time, do your quality research before opening threads.

there are too many SCIENTIFICALLY PROVEN EVIDENCES.... from WORMHOLES, TO TIME VARIATIONS, TO OUR DNA STRUCTURE, TO EVOLUTION.... etc

FATHAT:

Science cannot proof the existence of God,but the only valid proof human being can understand is from the Quran

Workch:
The Quran is a storybook.

It's a claim and not evidence, it's a ridiculous story book at that

FATHAT:

I can't argue with someone who doesn't understand the Quran. But may Allah guide you to the right path

Workch:
It's the sad reality, no one will ever be able to know if God exist or not because it's scientifically impossible

Some few things are impossible in life and science, examples are

1. Attaining absolute zero temperate.
2. An object with mass traveling at the speed of light
3. Look back in time to see what happened before big bang.

No 3 is why we can never know if God exist or not, in science, there's nothing like "before big bang" because time doesn't exist before big ban hence we cannot decipher anything in that realm. There's no mathematical prove to do that, it's simple impossible. Light also didn't exist before big bang, so we cannot see anything within the singularity.

No 2 requires that we create an infinite amount of energy to move such object. It's not possible, the universe doesn't have that amount of energy. The energy in the universe is quantifiable and conserved.


No1 The reason has to do with the amount of work necessary to remove heat from a substance, which increases substantially the colder you try to go. To reach zero kelvins, you would require an infinite amount of work.


Humans will never know if God exist or not. It's as simple as that. This is specifically why I don't know if a god exist or not. I don't believe or disbelieve it

This is why science does even attempt to disprove or prove God. It's impossible, it's not what science or any person can do. Any scientist trying to do it will do it with his personal funds and not research funds.


jaephoenix KnownUnknown LordReed

LordReed:


I agree that we don't know how to do any of these 3 things but I don't agree that they are impossible. Our current limited knowledge of those subjects does not preclude the possibility of knowing them in the future. Same with the god question, that we have never seen a god or gods doesn't mean one couldn't exist or existed.

Workch:

Are you saying that it's possible for us to do an infinite amount of work or use infinite amount of energy?

Or for us to see beyond space-time?

LordReed:


Nope, I am saying we don't know how to do them doesn't mean there isn't a way to overcome the limitations. For example one possible way to overcome the FTL problem would be to be to fold space or create wormholes. There maybe a myriad of possibilities we don't know at the moment.

Workch:
from your logic, you mean that everything is possible including a human entering and living inside a a thick wall?

Seriously, there are always going to be some things that will never be possible. There's no way you are going to ever share a space with another matter, you either leave the matter in its space or replace the space the matter left.

LordReed:


Where did I say that or imply that? You mentioned 3 specific things and instead of staying on topic you move to something else, later you'll say I moved the goalposts. LoLz.

Those 3 things are limitations we don't know now how to overcome, innovative techniques might be developed in the future to overcome them, simple.

FATHAT:

Science cannot proof the existence of God,but the only valid proof human being can understand is from the Quran

yrhuhfy113:


GOD IS NOT RELIGIOUS, HIS PROOF IS EVERYWHERE.... WE ARE HIS PROOF. INTELLIGENT LIFE CAN NOT BE CREATED WITHOUT AN INTELLIGENCE. TILL NOW APES HAVE NOT EVOLVED INTO HUMAN. SO QURAN OR BIBLE WILL NEVER BE SUFFICIENT.

Workch:
he said wormholes, there's no evidence that wormholes exist.

Stop watching science fictions from YouTube

yrhuhfy113:


ITS NOT FICTION BRO....

The saddest truth in the universe is.... WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE OR CHOOSE NOT TO BELIEVE, THERE WILL ALWAYS BE EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT YOU.


As long as you can believe that INTELLIGENT LIFE FORMS CAN BE CREATED WITHOUT AN INTELLIGENT BEING.... shows how intelligent you are.

Workch:
I can't take someone who thinks evidence for warm holes exist seriously

Workch:
I am telling you that these things are impossible, they are as impossible as putting two matter in exact same space.

Workch:
I can't take someone who thinks evidence for warm holes exist seriously

LordReed:


LMAO! Did you become some how more close minded?

Workch:
I didn't say wormholes cannot exist, I am that there no evidence that they do.

There's only mathematical proof, blackholes aslo had mathematical proofs before their existence had evidence.

Do you know the difference between no evidence and cannot exist?

LordReed:


So? Are you saying definitely that they don't exist because we have no evidence right now?

Workch:
nope, I am saying that they might exisy
But there's no evidence that they do for now

There's a probability for it

LordReed:


Good. Then it is a possibility to overcome the light speed problem.

Workch:
there's a mathematical proof that it's not possible for the light problem just same as the one you showed me for the existence of wormholes.

There's no single probability that the light problem ca be solved. Not 1

LordReed:


LoLz. How is it not? How is transversing billions of light years in an instant not an overcoming of the lightspeed problem?

Workch:
it's impossible to do that because the matter will even shatter into weightless pieces before attaining that speed. There is also no energy to do it