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Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 9:39pm On Jan 30, 2023
Bardo:
I am God
the one that created the universe?
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 9:39pm On Jan 30, 2023
Workch:
But you said everything is possible.

I am telling you that many thing are impossible, including traveling at light speed and breaking the barrier of time

Dude quote where i said so nah or you have added lying to your repertoire? LMFAO!
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 9:41pm On Jan 30, 2023
LordReed:


Dude quote where i said so nah or you have added lying to your repertoire? LMFAO!
are somethings impossible or not?
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 9:43pm On Jan 30, 2023
LordReed:


Dude quote where i said so nah or you have added lying to your repertoire? LMFAO!
Even little things like knowing the exact speed and location of a particle in space at the simultaneously is impossible.

No one can solve it in future.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 10:17pm On Jan 30, 2023
Workch:
are somethings impossible or not?
Workch:
Even little things like knowing the exact speed and location of a particle in space at the simultaneously is impossible.

No one can solve it in future.
Are you going to admit I never said everything is possible or not? LoLz.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 10:20pm On Jan 30, 2023
LordReed:


Are you going to admit I never said everything is possible or not? LoLz.
nope I am not. You inferred that everything we cannot achieve today, we may be able to achieve them tomorrow including breaking spacetime barrier to understand how the singularity got there.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 10:38pm On Jan 30, 2023
Workch:
nope I am not. You inferred that everything we cannot achieve today, we may be able to achieve them tomorrow including breaking spacetime barrier to understand how the singularity got there.


Right. Carry on then no need to continue a conversation where you are attempting to gaslight yourself. SMH. LoLz.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 10:51pm On Jan 30, 2023
LordReed:


Right. Carry on then no need to continue a conversation where you are attempting to gaslight yourself. SMH. LoLz.
Do you runaway from every debate you feel like you can't win?
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 5:44am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
Do you runaway from every debate you feel like you can't win?

Is that what you call lying now? Wonderful. LoLz.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by maybet081: 6:17am On Jan 31, 2023
The holy bible clearly indicated that God is the creator of all things.
Genesis 1:1
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by waldigit: 7:14am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
It's the sad reality, no one will ever be able to know if God exist or not because it's scientifically impossible

Some few things are impossible in life and science, examples are

1. Attaining absolute zero temperate.
2. An object with mass traveling at the speed of light
3. Look back in time to see what happened before big bang.

No 3 is why we can never know if God exist or not, in science, there's nothing like "before big bang" because time doesn't exist before big ban hence we cannot decipher anything in that realm. There's no mathematical prove to do that, it's simple impossible. Light also didn't exist before big bang, so we cannot see anything within the singularity.

No 2 requires that we create an infinite amount of energy to move such object. It's not possible, the universe doesn't have that amount of energy. The energy in the universe is quantifiable and conserved.


No1 The reason has to do with the amount of work necessary to remove heat from a substance, which increases substantially the colder you try to go. To reach zero kelvins, you would require an infinite amount of work.


Humans will never know if God exist or not. It's as simple as that. This is specifically why I don't know if a god exist or not. I don't believe or disbelieve it

This is why science does even attempt to disprove or prove God. It's impossible, it's not what science or any person can do. Any scientist trying to do it will do it with his personal funds and not research funds.


jaephoenix KnownUnknown LordReed
It depends on scientific strategy that is being used. If you adopt "a friori" approach i.e "cause to effect" you may be right, but if you go "posteriori" i.e. "effect to cause" that may not be true. From the creation, science has established existence of systems in nature. Since every system is designed to achieve a set of objectives, logically the entity behind the systems design can be safely concluded to be God.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 7:21am On Jan 31, 2023
waldigit:

It depends on scientific strategy that is being used. If you adopt "a friori" approach i.e "cause to effect" you may be right, but if you go "posteriori" i.e. "effect to cause" that may not be true. From the creation, science has established existence of systems in nature. Since every system is designed to achieve a set of objectives, logically the entity behind the systems design can be safely concluded to be God.
concluding without testable evidence is not science.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 7:22am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


Is that what you call lying now? Wonderful. LoLz.
LordReed my man.
I have never ever seen you so defensive
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 7:24am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
LordReed my man.
I have never ever seeing you so defensive

LoLz. And I have never seen you lying so blatantly. Wtf happened to you man?
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 7:32am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


LoLz. And I have never seen you lying so blatantly. Wtf happened to you man?
Where's the lie?
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 7:33am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


LoLz. And I have never seen you lying so blatantly. Wtf happened to you man?
sincerely, are we gonna argue to win or argue to establish the truth?
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 7:40am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
Where's the lie?

I asked you to quote where I said everything is possible, you couldn't but instead of admitting you are wrong, you doubled down with the lie and said I implied it. Quote where I implied any such thing if you haven't become a shameless liar.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 7:42am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


I asked you to quote where I said everything is possible, you couldn't but instead of admitting you are wrong, you doubled down with the lie and said I implied it. Quote where I implied any such thing if you haven't become a shameless liar.
Ok my bad. I take that back.

So clarify me now, is everything ever going to be possible with science?
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 7:42am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
sincerely, are we gonna argue to win or argue to establish the truth?

LoLz. I no longer argue with liars because even when truth bites their arse they still vomit lies.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 7:42am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
Ok my bad. I take that back.

So clarify me now, is everything ever going to be possible with science?

Nope.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 7:50am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


Nope.
So on what ground do you think that we will ever break spacetime barrier or move objects at light speed when the evidence and mathematical proofs says otherwise?
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 7:51am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


LoLz. I no longer argue with liars because even when truth bites their arse they still vomit lies.
I think we already resolved this.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 7:58am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
So on what ground do you think that we will ever break spacetime barrier or move objects at light speed when the evidence and mathematical proofs says otherwise?

LordReed:


LoLz. The wormhole doesn't require you to accelerate to lightspeed!

Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 8:03am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


But humans cannot hypothetical survive a trip through a warmhole assuming it exist.
Do you know about this or should I clarify?

This is why I am urging you to separate sci-fi from reality
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 8:16am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
But humans cannot hypothetical survive a trip through a warmhole assuming it exist.
Do you know about this or should I clarify?

This is why I am urging you to separate sci-fi from reality

Why would we not be able to survive a trip through a wormhole?

What part of this is sci fi? I am pointing out a possibility that is based on established science. It conforms to Einstein's relativity equations and even Stephen Hawking theorised that wormholes may potentially exist yet you are calling it sci fi. It was not dreamed up by sci fi authors if that is what you mean. LoLz.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 8:29am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


Why would we not be able to survive a trip through a wormhole?

What part of this is sci fi? I am pointing out a possibility that is based on established science. It conforms to Einstein's relativity equations and even Stephen Hawking theorised that wormholes may potentially exist yet you are calling it sci fi. It was not dreamed up by sci fi authors if that is what you mean. LoLz.
A human will not be able to survive a trip through warmholes.

Secondly, warmholes technically doesn't break the universal speed-limit of light. What it does is that it makes you transverse great distances in a short time, thereby making you travel to the future. You may have traveled faster than light in your own perspective, but universally, you didn't.

Travelling at the speed of a photon means that, time will cease to exist or will stop according to theory of relativity. For a photon, there's no time. A photon is everywhere at the same time from its frame of reference.
The time it takes For a photon to travel from the sun to earth is 8 minutes to us, but from a photo's perspective, it took no time at all. It was in the sun and at the same time on earth.

That's what happens when you travel at the speed of light, warmholes are just hypothetical vaccums in spaces that can help objects transverse great distance withing little time. It technically doesn't break the light speed barrier.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 8:32am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


Why would we not be able to survive a trip through a wormhole?

What part of this is sci fi? I am pointing out a possibility that is based on established science. It conforms to Einstein's relativity equations and even Stephen Hawking theorised that wormholes may potentially exist yet you are calling it sci fi. It was not dreamed up by sci fi authors if that is what you mean. LoLz.
No matter how you want to do it, you can never be faster than light.
At the speed of light, a photon is at the position of wherever you started entering the warmhole, that same photon is also at where that warmhole takes you to simultaneously.

This is true because of That's theory of special relativity and superpositions in quantum mechanics. Let's stop science fiction and be real
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 9:00am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
No matter how you want to do it, you can never be faster than light.
At the speed of light, a photon is at the position of wherever you started entering the warmhole, that same photon is also at where that warmhole takes you to simultaneously.

This is true because of That's theory of special relativity and superpositions in quantum mechanics. Let's stop science fiction and be real

Good grief! Are you even paying attention ffs!

LordReed:


LoLz. The wormhole doesn't require you to accelerate to lightspeed!

What part of this are you not understanding??
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 9:02am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


Good grief! Are you even paying attention ffs!

good, it technically doesn't break the universal speed limit then.

You didn't travel faster than light
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 9:09am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
A human will not be able to survive a trip through warmholes.

Secondly, warmholes technically doesn't break the universal speed-limit of light. What it does is that it makes you transverse great distances in a short time, thereby making you travel to the future. You may have traveled faster than light in your own perspective, but universally, you didn't.

Travelling at the speed of a photon means that, time will cease to exist or will stop according to theory of relativity. For a photon, there's no time. A photon is everywhere at the same time from its frame of reference.
The time it takes For a photon to travel from the sun to earth is 8 minutes to us, but from a photo's perspective, it took no time at all. It was in the sun and at the same time on earth.

That's what happens when you travel at the speed of light, warmholes are just hypothetical vaccums in spaces that can help objects transverse great distance withing little time. It technically doesn't break the light speed barrier.

Asked for WHY. You justed repeated your statement without saying WHY!

Wtf is going on here. LoLz. How many times do I have to repeat: The wormhole doesn't require you to accelerate to lightspeed!

The reason why it is called faster than light travel is not because you are actually moving FTL but because you are traveling the same distance in less time than light would. Did you not read in the screenshot that if light was to travel in the wormhole with you it will still be faster than you? For Andromeda's sake. If you don't understand why not say you don't understand instead of mindlessly repeating the same thing I have clarified over and over again.
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by Workch: 9:10am On Jan 31, 2023
LordReed:


Asked for WHY. You justed repeated your statement without saying WHY!

Wtf is going on here. LoLz. How many times do I have to repeat: The wormhole doesn't require you to accelerate to lightspeed!

The reason why it is called faster than light travel is not because you are actually moving FTL but because you are traveling the same distance in less time than light would. Did you not read in the screenshot that if light was to travel in the wormhole with you it will still be faster than you? For Andromeda's sake. If you don't understand why not say you don't understand instead of mindlessly repeating the same thing I have clarified over and over again.
this is true at your own reference frame.
From a photons reference frame, you didn't travel faster than light.

I hope you understand
Re: Science Will Never Be Able To Find Evidence For Or Against God. by LordReed(m): 9:14am On Jan 31, 2023
Workch:
good, it technically doesn't break the universal speed limit then.

You didn't travel faster than light

LoLz. Let's illustrate. For example a wormhole connects a region of space near earth's orbit and a region of space 1 lightyear away. The light from our sun will take one year to traverse the distance normally. A person in a space ship uses that wormhole and arrives at the end point after 10mins. Which is faster, the person in the space ship or the light from the sun?

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