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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 9:32am On Jan 27, 2023
NL1960:


Is Gas business that really better?. In Lagos, so many filling stations are now dispensing gas. You buy the amount or KG you want. People now prefer to go to such because it is dispensing and not weighing that small gas outlets do. I cannot remember the last time in the past 5years that i bought gas in a gas outlet, I refill from filling stations. 8
everything Lagos na war ! No space to even set up properly! The small gas store now used a compressor to refill too is powered with gen or light. with electronic wigh. He sold target a location where the income is average and a walking distance to the refill shop ! A man on a budget will not drive with 350 per litre petrol to buy Gas of 3k . he need to target a particular market (neighbourhood ) as a small player .

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 10:10am On Jan 27, 2023
emmanuelewumi:

te author=ahiboilandgas post=120415218]like i said bro you are Missing out due to your dislike for illiquid asset ( I also don't like illiquid asset ) investors then to learn ! Am surprised dangote still buys asset! In kano Mudasir bought the large union home and union bank building on igbo road for 300m . I taught he was stupid what will a textile Merchant do with such large building (rents =bullshit) he converted and remodel it to Mudasir plaza a 1 stop plaza for everything a bride's needs from furniture! To textile , kitchens items. He change the textile markets narrative .From going to crowded markets to buy textile in dust and sum now he shop in a nice ,aircondition well plan Mall and plaza . His sale quadriple and the 300m used to purchase the union home is back ! Due to this upgraded by him several banks also follow suits Taj bank ,SunTrust, union bank and now tenate in the plaza .So instead of selling you grandma property In Lagos as an investor you could have improved on the land by building a plaza with shops and selling example land plus 100m to build a plaza of 20 shops ( 170m) the sell each for 18m ×20 shops =360m .



As per my grandma's property we are 8 and we have different interests.


The investor who bought the property can't do anything on the land for the next 12 months, i am currently assisting him to procure a letter of administration as mama did not have a will, this will take minimum of 6 months.Tenants want a payout of N4 million for compensation and settlement. Who does that?

Apart from that the income is not predictable coupled with a low rental yield of just 5%.

My share from the property was invested immediately and will give me a minimum predictable cash flow of 13.5% per annum

In Lagos, most landlords are only sure of the first rent when the tenant is moving in. After the first year, it is war to get the tenant to pay. Some tenants will be paying piecemeal.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 10:20am On Jan 27, 2023
ahiboilandgas:
everything Lagos na war ! No space to even set up properly! The small gas store now used a compressor to refill too is powered with gen or light. with electronic wigh. He sold target a location where the income is average and a walking distance to the refill shop ! A man on a budget will not drive with 350 per litre petrol to buy Gas of 3k . he need to target a particular market (neighbourhood ) as a small player .


And then sue the property owner. The expected rent from the property I sold was about N3.5 million but less than 40% of the tenants were up to date with their rent

Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by mymadam(m): 12:09pm On Jan 27, 2023
NL1960:


In Lagos, most landlords are only sure of the first rent when the tenant is moving in. After the first year, it is war to get the tenant to pay. Some tenants will be paying piecemeal.

Gbam 💯
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by cutedharmee: 12:48am On Jan 28, 2023
Pls is buying gold ornaments a good investment?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by unite4real: 6:06am On Jan 28, 2023
emmanuelewumi:

te author=ahiboilandgas post=120415218]like i said bro you are Missing out due to your dislike for illiquid asset ( I also don't like illiquid asset ) investors then to learn ! Am surprised dangote still buys asset! In kano Mudasir bought the large union home and union bank building on igbo road for 300m . I taught he was stupid what will a textile Merchant do with such large building (rents =bullshit) he converted and remodel it to Mudasir plaza a 1 stop plaza for everything a bride's needs from furniture! To textile , kitchens items. He change the textile markets narrative .From going to crowded markets to buy textile in dust and sum now he shop in a nice ,aircondition well plan Mall and plaza . His sale quadriple and the 300m used to purchase the union home is back ! Due to this upgraded by him several banks also follow suits Taj bank ,SunTrust, union bank and now tenate in the plaza .So instead of selling you grandma property In Lagos as an investor you could have improved on the land by building a plaza with shops and selling example land plus 100m to build a plaza of 20 shops ( 170m) the sell each for 18m ×20 shops =360m .



As per my grandma's property we are 8 and we have different interests.


The investor who bought the property can't do anything on the land for the next 12 months, i am currently assisting him to procure a letter of administration as mama did not have a will, this will take minimum of 6 months.Tenants want a payout of N4 million for compensation and settlement. Who does that?

Apart from that the income is not predictable coupled with a low rental yield of just 5%.

My share from the property was invested immediately and will give me a minimum predictable cash flow of 13.5% per annum

Your effective yield could top 15% when you compound this
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Wiseman456: 12:37pm On Jan 28, 2023
unite4real:


Your effective yield could top 15% when you compound this

Please in filling a form for a Commercial paper, what do they use the TIN (tax number) for? Apart from remitting the 10% WHT to government, is there any other use for it especially if one is a civil servant.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Wiseman456: 12:39pm On Jan 28, 2023
Wiseman456:


Please in filling a form for a Commercial paper, what do they use the TIN (tax number) for? Apart from remitting the 10% WHT to government, is there any other use for it especially if one is a civil servant.

Oga Emma, please also comment.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Neverlosemoney: 4:52pm On Jan 28, 2023
emmanuelewumi:




90% of the property in Nigeria don't have certificate of occupancy, deed of conveyance and other valid titles.


Cash flow is the Koko, while waiting for 10 years for the land to appreciate you need money to harness other opportunities and create more wealth.


The man who bought my late grandma's property I sold few weeks ago for N70 million, made his money from the stock market and profit from his business.

He actually made a 4 bagger from Guinness within 5 years ie bought at N15 and sold at over N60. Planning to build a warehouse on the land with the plan to recover his capital in less than 10 years.
Within every asset class, there are good assets and there are bad assets. With certainty; Good assets are always liquid.

When people dream of making fast, huge return by investing in land, all that they imagine is buying land in one hole in some part of Nigeria, probably buying land in a place where no one as ever heard of before, buying this lands for peanuts and hoping some day development will come there and their investment will yield great fortunes. A naive way of losing money, they tie their money down to hope and this is where liquidity comes in. No one would like to pay a premium or even less to acquire trash.

Land is a great investment. If not the best, it one of the best. I once witnessed an event back when I was in Akure, this was around 2009, a land that was purchased in 1970s for less than 5,000 Naira was sold for 10 million Naira in 2009. Just a bit like your story, this people inherited the land from their Dad. The shocking part, the man who brought this land sold a large portion of the land, not all; for 80 million Naira in 2017. The real owner's children are all still regretting their decision for selling the land till this very Day.

When a land is located in a developed environment, where things are bubbling. You will be surprised how much some people are willing to put up to acquire such lands. The numbers can be Crazy!
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by skydiver01: 5:08am On Jan 31, 2023
Kindly find below the NTB auction results for 25 Jan 2023

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Plus10(m): 8:15am On Jan 31, 2023
skydiver01:
Kindly find below the NTB auction results for 25 Jan 2023
This rate is damed poor even after raising MPR rate to 17?

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 9:49am On Jan 31, 2023
Plus10:

This rate is damed poor even after raising MPR rate to 17?
effect of Naira redesign. Over 2.5 trillion has found it ways back to the bank only 700 bn left now ! So it a better tool to control money in circulation than high t.b rates which only captures around 20 percent ! After the deadline and money starting circulating again rate will go up .

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmanuelewumi(m): 11:01am On Jan 31, 2023
Iquote author=ahiboilandgas post=120519364]effect of Naira redesign. Over 2.5 trillion has found it ways back to the bank only 700 bn left now ! So it a better tool to control money in circulation than high t.b rates which only captures around 20 percent ! After the deadline and money starting circulating again rate will go up .[/quote]



I think the cashless policy has come to stay. I doubt if the Naira outside the banking sector will be higher than 25% again

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Oyindamolah: 11:31am On Jan 31, 2023
Thank you for your response. I appreciate.
ahiboilandgas:
Gas business better ! The keke is a depreciating assets and need money from the cash flow to maintain! GAS returns the capital and profits back to you the Gas have expansion potentials , easy to manage . If you make 100k from keke .just know that 30k will go back to the keke .
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Oyindamolah: 11:32am On Jan 31, 2023
I will most likely employ someone for the Gas business but keke Never! I run it myself
emmanuelewumi:




Will you be the one running the business or you want to employ people to manage it for you
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ahiboilandgas: 11:32am On Jan 31, 2023
emmanuelewumi:



Iquote author=ahiboilandgas post=120519364]effect of Naira redesign. Over 2.5 trillion has found it ways back to the bank only 700 bn left now ! So it a better tool to control money in circulation than high t.b rates which only captures around 20 percent ! After the deadline and money starting circulating again rate will go up .



I think the cashless policy has come to stay. I doubt if the Naira outside the banking sector will be higher than 25% again
yes possible but the cashless funds will be on stand by cannot be lock in any short term investment scheme.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Franky826: 11:57am On Feb 03, 2023
Oga ahib and oga Emma are back?
I'm definitely returning here too grin cheesy

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Rizin: 2:07pm On Feb 03, 2023
Franky826:
Oga ahib and oga Emma are back?
I'm definitely returning here too grin cheesy

Please come back after election not now. 🏃🏃🏃🏃🏃

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Tohmey(m): 11:58am On Feb 04, 2023
Good day to you all, please help and recomend a legit fixed deposit platform that can yield up 15%-18% per annum with a minimum of 1,000,000
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by DigitalMallam: 12:37pm On Feb 04, 2023
Tohmey:
Good day to you all, please help and recomend a legit fixed deposit platform that can yield up 15%-18% per annum with a minimum of 1,000,000
None that is legit.
Your best option for now is to go for commercial papers

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Tohmey(m): 1:07pm On Feb 04, 2023
DigitalMallam:
None that is legit. Your best option for now is to go for commercial papers
Bro, which one is commercial paper
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ibechris(m): 4:10pm On Feb 04, 2023
Tohmey:

Bro, which one is commercial paper

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RayRay06677(m): 6:49pm On Feb 04, 2023
DigitalMallam:

None that is legit.
Your best option for now is to go for commercial papers

Minimum investment in CP is 5m

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Tohmey(m): 10:00pm On Feb 04, 2023
[quote author=ibechris post=120632498][/quote]Have you invested on it before
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Tohmey(m): 10:00pm On Feb 04, 2023
RayRay06677:


Minimum investment in CP is 5m
E choke oooo

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by asskush: 7:49am On Feb 05, 2023
Hello Folks,

Now that starlink is in Nigeria, is it the right time to offload MTN shares ?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by LordAdam16: 8:53am On Feb 05, 2023
asskush:
Hello Folks,

Now that starlink is in Nigeria, is it the right time to offload MTN shares ?


No.

-Lord
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by emmasoft(m): 4:58pm On Feb 05, 2023
asskush:
Hello Folks,

Now that starlink is in Nigeria, is it the right time to offload MTN shares ?


ISPs and other competitors have been in Nigeria all this while and they could not stop MTN to soar and attain greater heights.
The coming of starlink will not pose any issue for MTN the market is large enough.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by FEGEITOK: 5:05pm On Feb 05, 2023
emmasoft:


ISPs and other competitors have been in Nigeria all this while and they could not stop MTN to soar and attain greater heights.
The coming of starlink will not pose any issue for MTN the market is large enough.


.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by FEGEITOK: 5:06pm On Feb 05, 2023
asskush:
Hello Folks,

Now that starlink is in Nigeria, is it the right time to offload MTN shares ?

MTN 5G requires a 50,000.00 capital outlay to use.

Starlink requires ( I am told, but I haven't independently verified, a N240,000.00 capital outlay to activate.

Not many Nigerians can afford the later.

Hope this analysis is useful.

There is a market for both companies.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by GloriousGbola: 5:13pm On Feb 05, 2023
FEGEITOK:

MTN 5G requires a 50,000.00 capital outlay to use.

Starlink requires ( I am told, but I haven't independently verified, a N240,000.00 capital outlay to activate.

Not many Nigerians can afford the later.

Hope this analysis is useful.

There is a market for both companies.

Early adopters are unpaid beta testers

The best thing is to watch and Wait for 3 to 6 months

Then we will actually know how reliable the entire system is and how well it will fare in our peculiar environment

Also the service caveats and traps in the fine print.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by richforever123: 5:13pm On Feb 05, 2023
FEGEITOK:

MTN 5G requires a 50,000.00 capital outlay to use.

Starlink requires ( I am told, but I haven't independently verified, a N240,000.00 capital outlay to activate.

Not many Nigerians can afford the later.

Hope this analysis is useful.

There is a market for both companies.

You are correct with the Starlink requirement price, I have already ordered mine

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