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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 4:51pm On Feb 12, 2023
IMAliyu2:
That's part of education.
We teach rudimentary sex education to preteens because it's been proven to prevents sexual abuse.
And telling kids that the LGBT.. people exists doesn't harm them.

Republicans are saying Parents should have an input into what their kids are getting taught in schools. Do you as a parent oppose that?
Most parents want their kids to go to school and learn about Math, Science Geography and not how to give bloowjobs

I'd oppose explicit inappropriate stuff, but is this really as massive a problem as you're being lead to believe?

It is a massive problem is a large number of parents are worried, that singular issue decided the Governoship election in Virginia
And the Florida law that states Parental right in education also address it. Anything you are ashamed to show the parent of a child should probably not be taught to that child

No one is doing that, I explained the diagnosis and prescription process in my first reply to coolusername.


This a complex topic about hormones, puberty and body mass that I'd rather have sport scientist deal with, and create rules on, not legislatures.
Like what is the actual number of transwomen participating in female sports right now that you'd think it's much of a national issue?
The state of Idaho banned it, and turns out there was only ever one trans student that was even participates in girls sports.
But the way it's talked about one might assume it's was a massive wave.

Yes its a wave and parents are rightly concerned. All the records of female in colleagiate sports are being shattered by men who transitioned. A man who couldnt make the cut in Men swimming destroyed the women swimming records. Women are the ones complaining that their daughters are not competing fairly in sports




From the material I've looked at, I doubt this really being taught, it's parents misunderstanding the subject material and history being taught
but if a teacher was infact teaching that people were evil due to skin color, I'd support they be fired.

I don't think police brutality should ever be defended.

The Democratic party has been pushing narratives to defund the police which many Americans look as insane. No one will live in an environment without police and this affects low income households more as they live in vulnerable neighborhoods and cannot afford private security


Yeah this just dumb.
But a case could be made for the decriminalization of some drugs, resulting in better outcomes.
See my other replies.

That is whats happening in many liberal cities, there are many videos of blatant stealing and beating up chop security where the thief just get away

I really don't care about sports, if my daughter wants to compete in a sport against someone of the opposite sex, that's her decision.
Your daughter will obviously want to compete with someone of similar strength and abilities as her not in a contest where she is biologically disadvantaged

Don't get me wrong there are crazy sh!t some liberals and Dems believe that I would never support.

But you have an entire national party choosing to focus on mainly that?

These are stuff that affect peoples personal lives, Like a small business owner whose shop is getting looted and police say they cant do anything because the Democratic mayor said its no longer a crime, or their kids going to school and they are teaching them explicit sexual materials or the crime wave since police are being attacked by the liberal media

What are the republicans position on the massive cost of medical care on the American population?
What about the housing crisis?
What about the growing cost of living?
Corporate taxes?
Minimum wage?
Education?

The Republican party is one of less govt, the less govt we have the better we are. We don't need govt to dictate minimum wage for us when we have varying needs according to state. Let each local state decide their own minimum wage not FG telling us a flat rate for California and Alabama. The businessman in Alabama cannot afford what the man in California can and will eventually crush the Alabama business

Corporate taxes when businesses are able to retain more f their earnings they invest more and hire more. I will rather Amazon keep more of their money and expand businesses thereby creating jobs than hand that money over to govt, who now share to people in a welfare manner

Growing cost of living is because of the interference of govt in every area of life and putting many obstacles to doing business, once there are many obstacles it increase price and these costs get passed down to consumers
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 5:06pm On Feb 12, 2023
CoolUsername:


I disagree. I'm strongly against censorship for adults but parents should absolutely have a say in what their kids will be exposed to by the school. As a teenager, for example, not all the kids were exposed to the same stuff.

Eh, I've seen highschool aged girls get married and expected to have kids. I guess I'm not as sympathetic to this view as I should be.


Furthermore, there's a difference between things like sex education and biological illustration of sex and things like the normalization of sexual encounters between 4th graders.
This I can't argue against.
I don't know what that book was, it's targeted demographics or even the context it's in and I feel way to uncomfortable to even attempt to look up.

But there are books like Lolita which contain some yikesy sexualization and abuse of an underaged girl. While I don't like the subject materials of these books. I'm cautions of book bans in general.

Modified: corrected typo and grammar

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 5:19pm On Feb 12, 2023
IMAliyu2:


Eh, I've seen highschool aged girls get married and expected to have kids. I guess I'm not as sympathetic to this view as I should be.


This I can't argue against.
I don't know what that book was, it's targeted demographics or even the context it's in and I feel way to uncomfortable to even attempt to look up.

But I know of a book like Lolita with some yikesy sexualization and abuse an of underaged girl. While I don't like the subject material I'm cautions of book bans in general.

There are books talking about 10 years old grabbing dicks and sucking dicks. Why are you trying to make a case for schools putting explicit things for Children? Should the public library start hosting Indecency magazines?

White you put out a book with a character of age 10 having sex with men and making it seem like normal behavior to other kids in the book... don't you think that is grooming?

it's weird... and funny enough, you are taking a shot at Republicans for worrying about things like this.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 7:06pm On Feb 12, 2023
benalvino3:


There are books talking about 10 years old grabbing dicks and sucking dicks. Why are you trying to make a case for schools putting explicit things for Children? Should the public library start hosting Indecency magazines?

White you put out a book with a character of age 10 having sex with men and making it seem like normal behavior to other kids in the book... don't you think that is grooming?

it's weird... and funny enough, you are taking a shot at Republicans for worrying about things like this.

I have not see a school would admit a "book with a character of age 10 having sex with men and making it seem like normal behavior", so, evidence please.

And no YouTube video by unqualified cuberjournos on this one.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:49pm On Feb 12, 2023
budaatum:


I have not see a school would admit a "book with a character of age 10 having sex with men and making it seem like normal behavior", so, evidence please.

And no YouTube video by unqualified cuberjournos on this one.

No amount of nonsense budaatum does not support from the LEFT.

you are asking for evidence of this. the Youtube videos of parents complaining are not enough. seek help.

Everyone who saw the youtube video knows the woman is at the school this book was in. No one in the school is denying it is in the school. it was approved to be in the school. The book says I was 10, 4th grader when I suck diick and it is no big deal.

How can a school approve a book that normalizes pedophilia? Why should it be in the school? how does it help their Vocabulary? all it does is curse words and profanity. So why are you coming to support the school?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHhO3SB1RWM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofAYuBcPqBA

tell me, How will those books help the children academically?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Weregonnalose: 10:50pm On Feb 12, 2023
budaatum:


I have not see a school would admit a "book with a character of age 10 having sex with men and making it seem like normal behavior", so, evidence please.

And no YouTube video by unqualified cuberjournos on this one.

Budapedo budaatum. Kikikiki
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Raskimonojendor: 11:00pm On Feb 12, 2023
I can't find any news about students being thought how to give blow jobs or anal sex. I did see one report about parents complaining about a $50,000 a year private school in America though.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Weregonnalose: 11:05pm On Feb 12, 2023
Raskimonojendor:
I can't find any news about students being thought how to give blow jobs or anal sex. I did see one report about parents complaining about a $50,000 a year private school in America though.

Gambojimeta pedo
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Raskimonojendor: 11:22pm On Feb 12, 2023
raumdeuter:

Corporate taxes when businesses are able to retain more f their earnings they invest more and hire more.
Trickle down economics. That really worked well for Liz Truss.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 12:24am On Feb 13, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Trickle down economics. That really worked well for Liz Truss.

Govt punishing job creators. We saw how that went for the Eastern bloc and USSR
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Raskimonojendor: 3:12am On Feb 13, 2023
raumdeuter:


Govt punishing job creators. We saw how that went for the Eastern bloc and USSR
Must be why the Republican party loves Putin.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Enugurangers: 3:32am On Feb 13, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Trickle down economics. That really worked well for Liz Truss.
I don't know why the Republicans love that voodoo economics though. Co-operations would rather increase their shareholders dividends (unlimited wants) rather than trickle down the new gains.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 4:16am On Feb 13, 2023
raumdeuter:


Republicans are saying Parents should have an input into what their kids are getting taught in schools. Do you as a parent oppose that?
Most parents want their kids to go to school and learn about Math, Science Geography and not how to give bloowjobs



It is a massive problem is a large number of parents are worried, that singular issue decided the Governoship election in Virginia
And the Florida law that states Parental right in education also address it. Anything you are ashamed to show the parent of a child should probably not be taught to that child

No one is doing that, I explained the diagnosis and prescription process in my first reply to coolusername.




Yes its a wave and parents are rightly concerned. All the records of female in colleagiate sports are being shattered by men who transitioned. A man who couldnt make the cut in Men swimming destroyed the women swimming records. Women are the ones complaining that their daughters are not competing fairly in sports




The Democratic party has been pushing narratives to defund the police which many Americans look as insane. No one will live in an environment without police and this affects low income households more as they live in vulnerable neighborhoods and cannot afford private security




That is whats happening in many liberal cities, there are many videos of blatant stealing and beating up chop security where the thief just get away


Your daughter will obviously want to compete with someone of similar strength and abilities as her not in a contest where she is biologically disadvantaged



These are stuff that affect peoples personal lives, Like a small business owner whose shop is getting looted and police say they cant do anything because the Democratic mayor said its no longer a crime, or their kids going to school and they are teaching them explicit sexual materials or the crime wave since police are being attacked by the liberal media



I doubt any K-12 library in US with any such books!

All parents want their children to go learn math, English, science and geo.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 5:09am On Feb 13, 2023
armyofone:


I doubt any K-12 library in US with any such books!

All parents want their children to go learn math, English, science and geo.

Then watch this video of a parent complaining about a book her son picked from the school library Lawn Boy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsYsndQ9w2E
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 8:14am On Feb 13, 2023
armyofone:


I doubt any K-12 library in US with any such books!

All parents want their children to go learn math, English, science and geo.

The meeting was hours and hours long, this is just a small clip. (May 14th 2019) The parents' voices were in vain because of course the school board followed through with approving the controversial new curriculum framework to be implemented in K-12.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuSYN4BCO04
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:59pm On Feb 13, 2023
benalvino3:


So why are you coming to support the school?

I do not support such books being in schools, and neither does the school once they knew its content.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 2:13pm On Feb 13, 2023
budaatum:


I do not support such books being in schools, and neither does the school once they knew its content.

Do you know what they call Approval? Do you feel someone just broke into the school and planted such books?
So the schools do not know the books that are in their Schools for children to pick up and read? Are you Kidding?

Look at this video of parents pleading not to school boards about what they are exposing kids to.
Stop making excuses for the schools, you know they know what they put in their school.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuSYN4BCO04

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:18pm On Feb 13, 2023
benalvino3:


Do you know what they call Approval? Do you feel someone just broke into the school and planted such books?
So the schools do not know the books that are in their Schools for children to pick up and read? Are you Kidding?

It is possible. Fact is, the school is not supporting nor defending that the book remain in its library.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 2:35pm On Feb 13, 2023
budaatum:


It s possible. Fact is, the school is not supporting nor defending that the book remain in its library.

Your own fact, because they got caught and they put out a statement saying they will review their approval process does not mean they are not supporting such. you can be here making excuses for schools that are grooming Children... I am not shocked when you do this. you are Budaatum, you have no problem with the grooming of kids.

It is disgusting... You are supposed to be asking what are the books doing in there in the first place, not posting their statement saying they will change how they review books after they got caught.

Schools have even Organised Drag queen shows for children as young as 7 in schools. will you come and make excuses for them too?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:40pm On Feb 13, 2023
benalvino3:

...... schools that are grooming Children...

I've told you you should be more concerned with your children's education instead of leaving it entirely to others.

Perhaps now, you'd heed my warning for when you have children.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by benalvino3: 2:55pm On Feb 13, 2023
budaatum:


I've told you you should be more concerned with your children's education instead of leaving it entirely to others.

Perhaps now, you'd heed my warning for when you have children.


the Mothers that are there are not concerned? Like you see them voice their anger to the schools on what they expose their children to and the School Board wants to just shout Time so they parents can go away already.

So why make excuses for schools? those books did not appear there magically. a lot of gay stuff happening in the schools,
they are putting explicit books in the schools,
they are inviting drag queens to perform for children in the schools.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:02pm On Feb 13, 2023
budaatum:
I do not support such books being in schools, and neither does the school once they knew its content.

So the school did not review the books before putting in the library? Do random books just land on the school library shelves? What of the numerous kids who have read this book already?

Parents trusted the schools will know better than to put sexual stuffs in the library for minors
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:07pm On Feb 13, 2023
benalvino3:


the Mothers that are there are not concerned? Like you see them voice their anger to the schools on what they expose their children to and the School Board wants to just shout Time so they parents can go away already.

So why make excuses for schools? those books did not appear there magically. a lot of gay stuff happening in the schools,
they are putting explicit books in the schools,
they are inviting drag queens to perform for children in the schools.

What you are seeing is parents finally getting involved in what their children are taught in schools and which they neglected to be concerned about in the past. Good on them, I say.

It is your duty as a parent to be involved in the education your child gets in school. Where I live, there are boards of governors and parent associations that concern themselves with what children are taught in schools, and you can't invite drag queens without parental approval.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:11pm On Feb 13, 2023
raumdeuter:


So the school did not review the books before putting in the library? Do random books just land on the school library shelves? What of the numerous kids who have read this book already?

Parents trusted the schools will know better than to put sexual stuffs in the library for minors

Schools can not review all the books in their library, and yes, random books can just land on the school library shelves. A student or rogue teacher can very easily put a book on a library shelf.

In a previous life I worked in bookshops and caught authors putting their self published books on our shelves. We often only found out when a customer wanted to buy the book and it could not be scanned for price.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Raskimonojendor: 3:13pm On Feb 13, 2023
raumdeuter:


So the school did not review the books before putting in the library? Do random books just land on the school library shelves? What of the numerous kids who have read this book already?

Parents trusted the schools will know better than to put sexual stuffs in the library for minors
Leander where the book (Lawn Boy) in your video was discovered is a Republican city, the county (Williamson) is a strong Republican county as well.

What is going on?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:16pm On Feb 13, 2023
budaatum:


Schools can not review all the books in their library, and yes, random books can just land on the school library shelves. A student or rogue teacher can very easily put a book on a library shelf.

In a previous life I worked in bookshops and caught authors putting their self published books on our shelves. We often only found out when a customer wanted to buy the book and it could not be scanned for price.

A school is not open to everyone and school libraries have librarians where books are checked in and checked out.

All the books on the shelves are accounted for, when they were brought in, who borrowed which book and when its due for return

A school library is not just a car park where free and unsupervised entry and exit is possible
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:17pm On Feb 13, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Leander where the book (Lawn Boy) in your video was discovered is a Republican city, the county is a strong Republican county as well.

raumdeuter, when I dip into conspiracy territory, even a troublemaking parent might arrange for the book to be in the library just so they can complain about it.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:19pm On Feb 13, 2023
Raskimonojendor:

Leander where the book (Lawn Boy) in your video was discovered is a Republican city, the county (Williamson) is a strong Republican county as well.

What is going on?

Leander is a suburb of Austin a heavily Democratic city
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Raskimonojendor: 3:19pm On Feb 13, 2023
budaatum:


Schools can not review all the books in their library, and yes, random books can just land on the school library shelves. A student or rogue teacher can very easily put a book on a library shelf.

In a previous life I worked in bookshops and caught authors putting their self published books on our shelves. We often only found out when a customer wanted to buy the book and it could not be scanned for price.

Jonathan Evison, the author of the Lawn Boy said the book was not never meant for school libraries.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Raskimonojendor: 3:20pm On Feb 13, 2023
raumdeuter:


Leander is a suburb of Austin a heavily Democratic city
At a more more microscopic level. It is a Republican city with a strong Republican county.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 3:20pm On Feb 13, 2023
raumdeuter:


A school is not open to everyone and school libraries have librarians where books are checked in and checked out.

All the books on the shelves are accounted for, when they were brought in, who borrowed which book and when its due for return

A school library is not just a car park where free and unsupervised entry and exit is possible

So, you'd check if I enter the library with a book in my school bag then put the book on a shelf? You'd know if a teacher has an agenda too?

Guess you don't know how devious some can be.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 3:23pm On Feb 13, 2023
budaatum:


ramdeuter, when I dip into conspiracy territory, even a troublemaking parent might arrange for the book to be in the library just so they can complain about it.


How will a parent sneak a book past the Librarian

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