Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 11:44am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Itsrm:
He should not go back to PDP because PDP has a bad history with Nigerians but he can take disgruntled members of the same PDP . Wetin con be the difference. Old wine same bottle.
I also see that Obidients have not learnt much from the just concluded elections. APC with all their bad history just won the election. He needs to leverage on PDPs structure at the National level. Buhari did the same by leveraging on ACNs structure. Any other thing is a waste of time. I didn't mean to admit but to form alliance with. Offcourse if any disgruntled PDP bigwig decides to join Labour he won't and can't impede the person. By the way, Buhari won through alliance with ACN. He needed a connection with the south. For PO to succeed, he will need to have a connection with the north, south west and middle belt. SE alone is not enough. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by reccy(m): 11:45am On Feb 28, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by rooftops: 11:47am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Joezinho:
This Oponu is experiencing the 5 stages of grief. π
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π₯ Denial π
π₯π₯ Anger π
π₯π₯π₯ Bargaining π
π₯π₯π₯π₯ Depression π
π₯π₯π₯π₯π₯ Acceptance π
I will pray for you, bro. π
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This is funny. You even dropped suicide hotline 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Joezinho: 11:49am On Feb 28, 2023 |
rooftops:
This is funny. You even dropped suicide hotline
I want him to be safe bro. He should be alive to experience tinubuβs good governance. π
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Expert17: 11:49am On Feb 28, 2023 |
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Cult following yet he lost 0sun & Lagos? Dis amala no turn He rigged the election yet lost Osun & Lagos. Dey play 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:49am On Feb 28, 2023 |
EmmanuelScott1:
https://punchng.com/just-in-protest-breaks-out-in-asaba-over-elections/?amp
Obi or nothing π The kind protest no make sense na. Which one is Obi or nothing? There's nothing that suggests Obi would've wα»n the elections on a national scale. Even me that voted Obi is still surprised he could pull the figures he did in places like Lagos , Kaduna and Plateau . Na dem PDP supposed dey spear heas this kind protest vos theu have the national spread and have a good case in plaves like Rivers , Kogi and other parts of the north . We all know there were cases of rigging and disenfranchisment and all, but me i no too really support this kind protest amd the theme jare . Obi or nothing ke ? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:51am On Feb 28, 2023 |
afrodoc2:
Do you know the funny thing. My mum was asking me this same question yesterday i.e how did things degenerate to this point between Tinubu and Aregbe. Bearing in mind that Aregbe was the most loyal and subservient of Tinubuβs followers back in the day. Its disheartening to see really, Rauf was being groomed to take over after Tinubu but it is what it is. Fashola will most likely inherit the structures or Gbaja. Yayi would've been the prime candidate but he has went to Ogun. Like Fashola said, may our loyalty not be tested. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 11:52am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Itsrm:
Chai. Even the handwriting is also different.
And this na part of the Obio Akpor I dey bank on
You even missed the main thing. If you look well, you see that on the labor party result, a paper was used to cover the original scores, then another numbers was written on it. Check the score side both number and words column, zoom in well. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 11:52am On Feb 28, 2023 |
larride:
Its disheartening to see really, Rauf was being groomed to take over after Tinubu but it is what it is. Fashola will most likely inherit the structures or Gbaja. Yayi would've been the prime candidate but he has went to Ogun.
Like Fashola said, may our loyalty not be tested. Probably for the best. Before the man takes osun debt national. And injects unnecessary religious gragra into the polity. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 11:53am On Feb 28, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:54am On Feb 28, 2023 |
patrickmuf: The most any supposed strong politician can do is deliver a polling unit or ward. A LGA or Senatorial district is a tough job so, let's stop making giants out of people who sphere of influence is within their locality...Sokoto is in the far North where APC will get votes with or without Wammako. So how was BAT spinning out votes for his party even after hanging boots since 2007?
You are just contradicting yourself, my brother.
The people who understood my post have agreed that he just rode on Buhari's wave to the top.
You can feel otherwise, but the results are there to show it.
Mallam is overrated 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 11:54am On Feb 28, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:
The kind protest no make sense na. Which one is Obi or nothing?
There's nothing that suggests Obi would've wα»n the elections on a national scale. Even me that voted Obi is still surprised he could pull the figures he did in places like Lagos , Kaduna and Plateau .
Na dem PDP supposed dey spear heas this kind protest vos theu have the national spread and have a good case in plaves like Rivers , Kogi and other parts of the north .
We all know there were cases of rigging and disenfranchisment and all, but me i no too really support this kind protest amd the theme jare . Obi or nothing ke ? Blueray you are missing the point. The protest is not about Obi but on making the people's votes count. These people are manipulating the results up and down and stealing the people's mandate. Let them protest!!! 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 11:54am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Ellexy: That he stood up to the presidency means nothing, they are the same people and he has nothing to lose.
By the way if the only way a politician can show his might is through rigging, that says a lot about the type of politician he is. If after governing a state for 8yrs and the people of the state can't support you or your candidate in a free and fair election, it means you failed simple.
You have succeeded in adding nothing to the discourse...So by your logic, Jigawa State governor has performed better than Sanwoo Olu? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by EmmanuelScott1(m): 11:54am On Feb 28, 2023 |
BlueRayDick:
The kind protest no make sense na. Which one is Obi or nothing?
There's nothing that suggests Obi would've wα»n the elections on a national scale. Even me that voted Obi is still surprised he could pull the figures he did in places like Lagos , Kaduna and Plateau .
Na dem PDP supposed dey spear heas this kind protest vos theu have the national spread and have a good case in plaves like Rivers , Kogi and other parts of the north .
We all know there were cases of rigging and disenfranchisment and all, but me i no too really support this kind protest amd the theme jare . Obi or nothing ke ? Leave the tag I drop π I'm joking The protest is about the rigging, INEC should stop the ongoing rigging. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ibkayee(f): 11:54am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Ibime:
You're kidding right? No o, I come from a very tall family 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ToyinDipo(m): 11:56am On Feb 28, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ribbit: 11:56am On Feb 28, 2023 |
larride:
Is Oshiomole not a first time Senator?
It will most likely be Akpabio. But is there a rule that says a first time senator cannot be senate president in the consistution or is that one of those gentlemen agreements? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emmynator(m): 11:56am On Feb 28, 2023 |
larride:
Its disheartening to see really, Rauf was being groomed to take over after Tinubu but it is what it is. Fashola will most likely inherit the structures or Gbaja. Yayi would've been the prime candidate but he has went to Ogun.
Like Fashola said, may our loyalty not be tested. What's your take on APC not getting 25% in fct? Isn't it constitutionally required? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by 47c3ee: 11:57am On Feb 28, 2023 |
FBS:
Obi totally smashed that one. Congratulations.
How many states remaining? Inec is yet to announce about 11 states |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 11:57am On Feb 28, 2023 |
ibkayee:
No o, I come from a very tall family No wonder chic2pimp dey fear work Like I always say, if you want tall kids, marry a tall lady |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 11:58am On Feb 28, 2023 |
izzou:
So how was BAT spinning out votes for his party even after hanging boots since 2007?
You are just contradicting yourself, my brother.
The people who understood my post have agreed that he just rode on Buhari's wave to the top.
You can feel otherwise, but the results are there to show it.
Mallam is overrated Is Tinubu overrated? Maybe we should conclude that only Buhari should be rated because only he commands numbers when on the ballot irrespective of the platform... See you talking about Tinubu spinning out votes, no be rigging him dey rig again abi? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ToyinDipo(m): 11:58am On Feb 28, 2023 |
raumdeuter:
He needed the right time and this was the perfect time This is The Tinubu Chess game
Opening move decided to go a conservative Sicilian opening In 1999 he won Lagos State governor
In 2003 when OBJ deceived all SW governors and the AD to not float their candidate that they should support him and in turn he will ensure they retain their seat, Tinubu disagreed with AD leaders on that arrangement. tsunami swept all AD governors only Tinubu survived
Queens gambit declined
He left AD, formed his own party AC and he was the only governor
By 2007 to grow the party he reached out to Oshiomole offered him the AC ticket in Edo vs Prof Osunbor. Oshiomole lost
Atiku and OBJ got into a fight a major fight, Atiku was in charge of PDM he was the strongest Northern politician and as the heir to Yar Adua, OBJ used YarAdua younger brother Umaru to break Atikus hold on PDM Tinubu saw an opportunity to woo a powerful politician and get on his good side, he gave Atiku a platform to contest the 2007 election obviously Atiku had no path to win. He made Ben Obi Atikus vice. They lost but Tinubus profile started rising Short side castling
He sponsored candidates in AC all over Nigeria. He brought many politicians treated badly and denied a ticket into his fold e.g Ngige Akume
He brought Fashola a technocrat as governor but didn't hand over the political keys to him Fasholas performance became the standard for ACN to campaign and win many hearts across the nation Knight advance
The criminal elections of 2007 conducted by Obasanjo which was reputed to be the worst election in Nigerian history handed Tinubu a huge opportunity He found an ally in Justice Salami of the appeal court who was instrumental in restoring the Oshiomole and Fayemi and Aregbesola into power AC grew into 4 states. Open file Bishop
Mimiko of Labour Party who was denied the ticket was also in tribunal vs Agagu. Tinubu approached him to provide logistic support with belief that Mimiko will decamp into ACN. Mimiko won but declined to join ACN
By 2011 Tinubu spread beyond the SW approached strong politicians who were denied a ticket or chased out of strong parties but knew he couldn't take on the FG alone at this time. He was the 3rd force in 2011
Buhari controlled all Northern states with his new CPC, Jonathan and PDP controlled most SE NC and SS states
CPC and PDP were stalemate here comes tie breaker Tinubu.
Buhari in his idealistic thinking felt he could do by picking Bakare a Pastor with zero structures. He didn't agree to Tinubus terms.
GEJ saw the opportunity approached Tinubu who tactically floated a dummy Ribadu and Fola Adeola(2 moslems who had zero political structures and were barely politicians) he knew weren't going anywhere. Tinubu stepped down all ACN machinery in the SW and allowed the PDP a free ride. Knight fork Now he has become a major power broker who tactically made Jonathan president without appearing to.
Buhari lost again and started crying on TV and was hopeless. As a man of strategy Tinubu knew Buhari was at his low and vulnerable, he approached Buhari this time Bubu was more than willing
After winning in 2011, Jonathan started some aggressive moves to break Tinubu so he won't have to beg everytime. One of such moves was to make a SW Mulikat Adeola Speaker, Jonathan thinking was to raise a powerful SW politician that will be an alternative to Tinubu.
Tinubu knew this was an act of aggression on their gentleman handshake and he mobilized the ACN reps to reject Mulikat and support Tambuwal, Another gambit. Bishop sacrifice to gain a strong position
Tinubu started the cleanup of Buharis image from a clueless out of touch military religious extremist guy to this misunderstood charming, introvert, gap toothed, strong man that Nigeria needed at this critical time to get rid of corruption and PDP in discipline
Thus APC was birthed with the plan to use Buharis popularity with Tinubus money and skilled politicking to push Buhari into power but this time Tinubu was to pick Buharis vice.
APC also won over Atiku after he lost out in PDP and breakaway PDP governors. Atiku came into the convention ground hoping to buy the ticket as usual Buhari has never done any real competitive primary in a party everyone didn't worship him. Primary ground Buhari was stunned about how Atiku was about to steal the ticket right there with money . Until Tinubu matched Atiku dollar for dollar and Buhari won the ticket
Now the deal was for Tinubu ACN to provide the Vice. Buhari asked Tinubu to give him 3 options.
Tinubu knew he was interested in succeeding Buhari. And giving a strong vice would build up the Vice politically over 8yrs and might build enough goodwill to succeed Buhari This was Tinubus biggest masterstroke. He gave Buhari an Osinbajo who was smart but has the political clout of a 13yr old girl. Osinbajo was a very safe choice, he was not popular nor charismatic enough to gather the clout to state Jagaban in the face
There were other options like Fashola and Fayemi but they were risky and could get ambitious and endear themselves to people
Buhari asked Tinubu for 3 choices, Tinubu returned with one choice an unknown Yemi Osinbajo who will complete 8yrs and have less to nothing in political power to challenge for the seat Queen advance
Buhari won election and Tinubu is in a good position Nationall acknowledged as the brain behind the success, thus issues started cropping up, fissures grew in the hurriedly assembled APC. Saraki wanted more than he was offered and broke the party, Buharis packaging has now begun to fall off, the makeup was beginning to melt and the man behind the mascara was beginning to show and its not pretty, Tinubu was schemed out by Buharis CPC friends including Abba Kyari and ElRufai, Things were not going to plan Should he pull out of the APC, blurt out or maintain status quo and reach out to enemies The Queen beat a tactical retreat
Comes 2022, Tinubu has broken into the ranks of governors in his party and showing loyalty to them in times of trials won him a lot of die hard loyalists like Oshiomole and Ganduje who will lay their lives for him By now Tinubu had taken control of all the APC structures and wanted the party to go for a direct primary, Some felt there was no way they could match the network of Tinubu in a direct primary and pushed for indirect where only chosen delegates voted Tinubu called upon his network of Governors and allies when Buhari wanted to anoint Lawan, they stood up and insisted it goes to the South He won the primary and cleared the road for an eventual checkmate
Rook to center
You can see it was a gradual ascension filled with scheming gambit which he lost some but won many
I can write a book on this man called Jagaban who many people do not like but smart people deeply respect
He understands politics. He is smart enough not to fight anyone thus always leaving the room for reconciliation open, the power of compromise give & take, persuasion and when to use the power of money
Most times those who fight Tinubu can only do it on the pages of paper By the time you meet him, His humor, his slow thick voice, his offer he will give you, You most likely will leave him calm and ready to compromise
You play chess that much egbon, you already analyzed the first WC game between Nepo and Ding 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 11:58am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Expert17:
He rigged the election yet lost Osun & Lagos. Dey play
We're talking abt cult followings. I never menti0ned rigging. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 11:58am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Meanwhile Obi is still on track the win the highest number of states of all the candidates.
Someone said tinubu understands political calculations and I just laughed. You mean calculations where the results are rigged, like im portharcourt, akwaibom, crossriver, imo and ebonyi.
Meanwhile this same tinubu is losing soo many buhari states to atiku..
The funniest thing that would happen in this election is for the person with the least amount of states to win the presidency. That would indeed be funny. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ibkayee(f): 11:58am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Ibime:
No wonder chic2pimp dey fear work
Like I always say, if you want tall kids, marry a tall lady Lool chic2pimp is tall himself But don't mind me I was only joking I'm definitely not 6'4 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by 47c3ee: 11:58am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Expert17:
He rigged the election yet lost Osun & Lagos. Dey play Only a fool will type this 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 11:59am On Feb 28, 2023 |
Emmynator:
What's your take on APC not getting 25% in fct? Isn't it constitutionally required? Nope. Simple majority and 25% in 2/3 of the state. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:00pm On Feb 28, 2023 |
ribbit:
But is there a rule that says a first time senator cannot be senate president in the consistution or is that one of those gentlemen agreements?
I think its part of National Assembly standing order. Except a new standing order is used, no way a first time senator will be Senate President when there are older colleagues there. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ribbit: 12:00pm On Feb 28, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:01pm On Feb 28, 2023 |
patrickmuf: Is Tinubu overrated?
Maybe we should conclude that only Buhari should be rated because only he commands numbers when on the ballot irrespective of the platform...
My point, and whatever you are trying to prove are two parallel lines
Rest, brother |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ishilove: 12:01pm On Feb 28, 2023 |
Oasis003:
If you're a twitter user, that's smallie. I'm a twitter user but I don't know anyone called smallie |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 12:02pm On Feb 28, 2023 |
Itsrm Rivers collation don turn to drama o. Prof wey dey handle the collation don adjourn the matter until further notice sey people dey threaten him life. Police beg, agents beg him no gree Naija and drama. 1 Like 1 Share |