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Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by MuttleyLaff: 8:08pm On Jan 17, 2020 |
CaveAdullam:[img]https://s2/images/MuttleyDriveLaff.gif[/img] How did I not notice that the "other" teasing comment, lol, |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 11:15pm On Feb 01, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:Lol |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 7:41am On Jul 24, 2022 |
Amen |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 4:22am On Mar 05, 2023 |
ichuka:1. Christ is God because ■ cursed is a man who puts His trust(and obedience) in another man, making flesh and blood His strength - Jeremiah 17 vs 5 - 11 ■ God's plan from the beginning has always been to sit as God and ruler over the people of Israel along with all the Nations of the world — as a shepherd, Guide, Helper, Teacher, Judge, etc.,— Himself As for the second part of your question, well, not only did He have to be a man, but he also had to be born of the bloodline of David because ■ God promised the people of Israel a king from the line of David to rule over Israel forever - Jeremiah 33 vs 14 - 22 ■ God promised the people of Israel prophets from among their brethren alone - Deuteronomy 18 ■ God's special Kingdom of Priests — the Kingdom of God — God specifically said He would make of the children of Israel. - Exodus 19 vs 6 |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 5:34am On Mar 05, 2023 |
respect80:That makes no sense of any kind. Did you read the question at all? You are asked why... not to give vague soundbites which mean next to nothing where God's plan is involved. As for living a holy life. John the Baptist was a holy man — who lived sinlessly— who lived a holy life and died a righteous man of the Old Law. All of the prophets of the Old Covenant, along with all the people who died in righteousness, also live holy lives in accordance with God's Law. Before Jesus Christ showed up, humans were able to live a holy life, so the purpose of Jesus Christ has so much more to it than showcasing a possibility — which is instead a fact. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 7:13pm On Mar 05, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:To you maybe, but many believes. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 7:46pm On Mar 05, 2023 |
ichuka:Who cares what they believe. If it ain't the truth of God it means nothing. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 9:55pm On Mar 06, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Truth means different things to so many people |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 9:57pm On Mar 06, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:Ok,tried . keep it up |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 9:57pm On Mar 06, 2023 |
ichuka:In the Kingdom of God, there is only one meaning to Truth and it is Jesus Christ, the National Constitution and Gospel in God's Special Kingdom of Priests — Exodus 19 vs 6 — aka the Kingdom of God. There is no other Truth that should exist to those who are of that nation. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 10:03pm On Mar 06, 2023 |
missjo:I am afraid the one you responded to was actually wrong in his assertion. Animal sacrifices were quite sufficient for the purpose that God meant them for in the Old Covenant and Law of Moses. The Sin offering and the guilt offering were instituted by God as a way of erasing the sins and guilt of the people in the land once every year. One thing which most who pretend that by sullying the Old Law and its rituals, they can obtain glory for Jesus Christ don't even realize is that when Jesus Christ returns during the time of the resurrection, He is to bring back the sacrificing of animals as defined in the Old Law at the time God makes His city of Jerusalem Holy again. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 10:22pm On Mar 06, 2023 |
missjo:1. When was this "glory" put on them in the first place? 2. This story of yours does not add up at all. First of all, God did look upon Adam and Eve when He came to where they were hiding, only their shame kept them from revealing themselves to God in their naked state. Second, God killed the animals in order to cover the unclothedness of Adam and Eve, not because God couldn't stand it but because Adam and Eve couldn't stand their own unclothedness. So why did you have to twist that around to assert instead that it was God who had a problem with Adam and Eve in their naked state? Also, given that blood was supposedly shed yet no redemption was made available to Adam and Eve by God, doesn't this basically render of no value your assertions regarding what you claim is spiritual unclothedness, blood becoming a necessity, etc? |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 7:25pm On Mar 09, 2023 |
Kobojunkie:You are ofcourse as usual |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 7:46pm On Mar 09, 2023 |
Auki:1. Why is it blasphemy? 2. The God you quote there is the God of Israel and this is from the Law of Moses which happens to be the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan — Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 3. How do you know this for a fact? |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 8:05pm On Mar 09, 2023 |
kkins25:YHWH aka Jehovah is the God of Israel — the National Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Land of Canaan. That Name applies specifically to that agreement as God made known in Exodus 3 vs 1 - 8 and Exodus 6 vs 1 - 6. Jesus Christ is Lord over God's special Nation of Priests — the National Constitution of the Kingdom of Priests - Exodus 19 vs 6 - which God constituted of the people of Israel aka the Kingdom of God. That is the agreement that Jesus Christ represents. i.e. is Lord of. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 8:07pm On Mar 09, 2023 |
Hairyrapunzel:Sure, Paul can lie that is why Jesus Christ warned you to cross-check everything against His, Jesus Christ's own Words. However, In the Kingdom of God, there is one Lord and His name is Jesus Christ. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 8:19pm On Mar 09, 2023 |
kkins25:Where do you get that YHWH is in Heaven though? |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by Kobojunkie: 8:45pm On Mar 09, 2023 |
shalom4eva:Jesus Christ rightly didn't refer to Himself as God but He implied it from many of what He did in fact say. And no, this is definitely not an endorsement of man's doctrine of trinity which is just a bunch of lies cobbled together by false teachers and false prophets to deceive people with. As is written in Scripture, Jesus Christ is God, and God(the Father) is God, but God(the Father) is not Jesus Christ. This, a logical case of A is B but B is not A. And this is what is clearly explained in all of scripture to all those who will KNOW the Truth of God from the lies of men. In Scripture, beginning in the Old Testament, we learn the following of God : ▪︎ God is God of Wrath ▪︎ God is God of Laws ▪︎ God is Good/Righteous ▪︎ God is Faithful ▪︎ God is Love ▪︎ God is True (Word) ▪︎ God is Life ▪︎ All Wisdom, Knowledge, and Understanding are of God ..... And of Jesus Christ, we are informed by Him, particularly in John 14 vs 6, that He is ▪︎ God's Truth (Word) ▪︎ God's Life ▪︎ God's Law (one of many) aka The Way So as indicated, Jesus Christ is born from some of the very same essences that is God(Father) - they are both in synch as far as that which they share. And this explains much of what Jesus Christ said of His relationship to the Father ■ The Father is greater than He, Jesus Christ, ■ He, Jesus Christ, is in the Father, and the Father is in Him(Jesus Christ), ■ All that Jesus Christ gives to you, His follower, is that which the Father gives Him, ■ He, Jesus Christ does only that which His Father bids Him do, ■ He, Jesus Christ cannot do anything apart from the Father, ■ He, Jesus Christ said," “My Father never stops working, and so I work too.” ■ He, Jesus Christ also said, “I assure you that the Son can do nothing alone. He does only what he sees his Father doing. The Son does the same things that the Father does. The Father loves the Son and shows him everything he does." ....etc. So, Jesus Christ is God. However, since Jesus Christ doesn't possess all of the essences of God inside of Him, God isn't Jesus Christ. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 6:09am On Mar 12, 2023 |
Amen |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by orisa37: 6:47am On Mar 12, 2023 |
THAT'S THE WAY OF GOD AND IT IS DIFFERENT FROM THE WAY OF MAN. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by orisa37: 6:49am On Mar 12, 2023 |
PRAY THAT YOU MAY NOT ENTER INTO TEMPTATION. |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 4:20pm On Mar 12, 2023 |
orisa37:Amen |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by orisa37: 4:26am On Mar 17, 2023 |
ichuka: GOD IS REDEMPTION!!! |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 12:10pm On Mar 19, 2023 |
orisa37:Amen bro Blessed Sunday to you 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Is Christ Both God And Man In Gods Redemptive Plan? by ichuka(m): 8:27pm On Oct 05 |
Bless Jesus |
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