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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 7:40am On Mar 05, 2023
When you go deeper reading the book, Otem and his people would tell you that everything you see as reality is just your brain and sense organs playing tricks on you, Nothing or Vacuum or Void is actually all that exists.

The taoists would say you're caught in the snares of your sense organs and brain seeing something instead of Nothing.

That's deep.

To make advances in science, it's quite beneficial to be able to see the world through the eyes of these great beings.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 7:49am On Mar 05, 2023
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by monerozi5590: 7:54am On Mar 05, 2023
Bombblack and A001, are you guys Physicists or something related? If yes, you guys should respect each other and end the argument please.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 7:57am On Mar 05, 2023
monerozi5590:
Bombblack and A001, are you guys Physicists or something related? If yes, you guys should respect each other and end the argument please.
I'm a physicist. But I don't know the profession of the guy, but he's obviously not a physicist.

If not, he won't be confusing physics with metaphysics.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 8:19am On Mar 05, 2023
WhoDeyHause:

Day by day yo just keep losing the tangible respect you've managed to build up over the years in this sports section especially the Chelsea thread where this thread originated from. Fighting and wishing the worst for your fellow Nigerian who felt the all round pangs under the eight years of buhari who you voted back to back cause of a politician that can cross carpet tomorrow. When have you seen the supreme court in this 21st century overturning a presidential election result? You are actually depending on the corrupt law in this country that even buhari abuses it's judgement without restraint. My whole hood was very quiet after tinubu was announced as winner. My mind was scattered that day with me thinking of the country's future and inec's blatant failure once again. I didn't even congratulate my friends who supported him but then again that won't make me wish him to fail or his supporters the worst because I voted obi. Just try to tone down before everyone in the section sees you as a well read nutjob. It's honestly sad to see this your hot brain functioning with the manual of a bloated sponge atimes.

I honestly don't know how to respond to this because how the context of that post flew over everyone's head needs to be studied.

If you read between the lines you see I didn't outrightly threaten him harm. This is akin to 2 people hearing that a woman was raped and one person starts finding ways to blame the victim, "was her door locked", why does she wear skimpy clothes? Why does she behave like a slut? At that point, being frustrated you tell the person, let your own sister be raped, let me know if you will still see it that way.

That's the exact context of that post, infact my explicit description of robbers robbing him of his property and stabbing him in the eye should have made my point because that was a very well known incident.
And mind you, them no dey chop respect here so you can put that where it belongs.
If my post pisses you off, go and wee wee. cheesy

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 8:22am On Mar 05, 2023
Werey still wan steal my line đŸ€ŹđŸ€Ź

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 8:24am On Mar 05, 2023
Segedinho:
Wike tried to financially invade d army..

https://mobile.twitter.com/drpenking/status/1632010105326563328

Wike once accused Amaechi of using the Army to militarize and rig the elections in his favour. The Army responded with this video that it was Wike who tried to bribe them.

I believe both of were saying the truth but it's important to note that the video was made 2019.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:25am On Mar 05, 2023
liveLongNprospa:
The bigotry loading in Lagos is going to be amazing. đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł.


Called it😂😂😂
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 8:26am On Mar 05, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Most of the points noted here are not practicable in a democracy like Nigeria .

1. Labour Party has just 6 senators out of 109 senatorial seats in the National Assembly while they have about 34 out of 360 seats in the HOR. If these members choose not to align with other members in the respective houses who are members of other parties; they won’t achieve anything in the house for the next 4 years . Nobody will give the bills they sponsor any reasonable consideration and they will end up not effecting any serious change . So yes, they will just have to make do with being “OH YES “ members while trying to build working relationship with other members of the house .

2. Mandating people to go through “LP’s political school “ will only mean the party will die a natural death . In fact, the party needs political aspirants more than the aspirants need LP. If u go to areas like Northeast and some parts of Southwest where the party has no reasonable foothold and u mandate people to go through any political school, they will just avoid the party like a plague and it will never grow beyond the level it is presently .The author seem to be getting carried away with the media frenzy surrounding the Obi-Datti movement forgetting LP is first of all a political through which different politicians in different states and localities hope to use as vehicle to actualize their dreams for the people they want to represent . If they try to force any ideology on people , they will help populate parties like YPP, SDP, ADC where such people will be forced to move to.

3. Charging political office holders money monthly will never work ; even if does it will be counter productive . Here is why : There’s no law either in the Nigerian constitution , electoral act or the party’s constitution that makes provision for such charges on the income of political office holders under the party. If LP decides to then amend its constitution to mandate people to make such payments to the party’s account monthly , it will only push members to dip their hands into the cookie jar; something we criticize APC and PDP house of assembly members for daily .

Look at it this way, u remember the NDDC off ur mic saga right ? U know the members of house committee on Niger Delta affairs have their hands serious dipped in corruption such that when Akpabio began naming names they had to shush him ? If the party takes a chunk of a LP house of assembly member’s income , they will have no choice but to make the shortfall through other means like receiving bribes for overseeing projects/contracts awarded by the executive and the whole corruption cycle continues . Nothing changes !

4. Lastly I don’t think political parties should be on the street protesting . It doesn’t look good ; let’s say there’s something like ENDSARS and u go there to find out it’s just LP as a party that is protesting it. It will make room for the ruling party to dismiss such protests as lacking merit . They will just see it as a party trying to take control of government through forceful means instead of the ballot box . Just one executive order and the party can even be deregistered ; the party leaders charged for treason and things will go south .

In order for labor party to consolidate on the success it has achieved thus far, it requires serious strategic thinking and not just 90% emotions, 10% thinking .

Very strong rebuttal and I agree. I saw that post and shared it here because I thought it interesting.

But yes, I know that our democracy isn't ripe enough for strong ideological differences between parties.

However I do think that the labor party can carve out a niche for themselves, both at the national assembly and state governments when they win some governorships and state assemblies.

I am hoping obi would be a firm leader of the party that puts all party men in line and shapes them to be the kind of political leaders we desire.

Even if the bills they sponsor won't pass, labor party has become the party of the youths and the actions of the members would be put under the microscope.we would like to see labor party members in national assembly sponsoring bills to reduce their salaries and try and reduce the cost of governance any way they can. That elected labor party governors can be the first to cancel these heavy governorship Post tenure benefits.

Just let them try as much to be seen as leading by example and their appeal would spread organically. I know it's just my idealism at work but one can dream.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 8:26am On Mar 05, 2023
raumdeuter:


just ignore them

An juwon o shey wi lejo.
Omo, you be real omoluabi ooo.

From one YorĂčbĂĄ proverb to another.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 8:29am On Mar 05, 2023
GrammarNazi1:

Omo, you be real omoluabi ooo.

From one YorĂčbĂĄ proverb to another.

Is this what a real "omoluabi" will say?

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 8:30am On Mar 05, 2023
Segedinho:
Wike tried to financially invade d army..

https://mobile.twitter.com/drpenking/status/1632010105326563328

Very bad of him if true but not unexpected.



This video is 4 years old though. I am not sure how relevant it is to this current situation apart from causing more confusion and chaos.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 8:32am On Mar 05, 2023
FBS:
ÈéfĂ­n ni ĂŹwĂ , kĂČ áčŁeĂ© fi pamọ́


Owe Yoruba.
You must be an omolĂșĂ bĂ­.

Nice YorĂčbĂĄ proverb there.

You even included the accent/tonal marks.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GrammarNazi1(m): 8:34am On Mar 05, 2023
Donjazet2:


Is this what a real "omoluabi" will say?
An omolĂșĂ bĂ­ retaliates only when pushed to the wall!

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 8:35am On Mar 05, 2023
People of enugu are seriously confused on who to vote for. Many of them are linked to chimaroke and chimaroke has become political poison in the state. His endorsement is now a kiss of death. cheesy

I think Obi has to make to make an endorsement here. People are torn between nweke of apga and edeoga of Labor and if that confusion gets to the polls, PDP will definitely win again.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 8:35am On Mar 05, 2023
Itsrm:


Wike once accused Amaechi of using the Army to militarize and rig the elections in his favour. The Army responded with this video that it was Wike who tried to bribe them.

I believe both of were saying the truth but it's important to note that the video was made 2019.
Thanks for d clarity

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 8:35am On Mar 05, 2023
afrodoc2:


Very bad of him if true but not unexpected.



This video is 4 years old though. I am not sure how relevant it is to this current situation apart from causing more confusion and chaos.

I shared as seen.
Thanks for d info

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:40am On Mar 05, 2023
The Atheist's Prayer {thanks to IamSabrina}.
Let us pray...

our brains, Which art in our head, Treasured be thy name. Thy reasoning come. Thy best you can do be done on earth as it is. Give us this day new insight to help us resolve conflicts & ease pain.
And lead us not into supernatural explanations; Deliver us from denial of logic, For thine is the kingdom of reason, And even though thy powers are limited, And you're not always glorious, You are the best evolutionary adaption we have for helping this earth. now and forever and ever, So be it!


A blissfull Sunday to you all.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 8:44am On Mar 05, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
The Atheist's Prayer {thanks to IamSabrina}.

Let us pray...


our brains,
Which art in our head,
Treasured be thy name.
Thy reasoning come.
Thy best you can do be done on earth as it is.
Give us this day new insight to help us resolve conflicts & ease pain.

And lead us not into supernatural explanations;
Deliver us from denial of logic,
For thine is the kingdom of reason,
And even though thy powers are limited,
And you're not always glorious,
You are the best evolutionary adaption we have for helping this earth.
now and forever and ever,
So be it!



A blissfull Sunday to you all.
Lols, is Yahweh an atheist? Sounds like a prayer an entity like Yahweh would recite.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 8:52am On Mar 05, 2023
Segedinho:
I shared as seen.
Thanks for d info

You are welcome. It is good to try to verify that kind of incendiary info before passing it on. Things are dicey and dangerous enough as it is.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Bombblacks: 8:55am On Mar 05, 2023
A001:

Yea, I don't know the difference between actual science and metaphysics as a physicist, just like award-winning physicists that wrote books on Nothing.

But you, an ignorant person, that doesn't what cosmology and quantum physics are and doesn't know jack about Physics, do.

Ignorance is your problem, and you're even arrogant about it, which is why you assume matter (everything you see) has always existed like that even before the Big Bang.

Your knowledge of the subject is very limited. I don't have time to waste with you.

If you're not just rambling, you'd have a presented a solid argument against Nothing (yes, there's actually one) other than metaphysics mumbo-jumbo.

Maybe you just learned that term.

Anyway, you'll find proponents for Nothing among scientists that study the beginning and history of the Universe — cosmologists and astrophysicists.

They're just telling you before space, time, and matter were created by the Big Bang, a Vacuum or Nothing existed.

If you feel otherwise, tell me exactly what existed before space, time, and matter were created by the Big Bang.

Anyway, I don't expect someone that doesn't know who a cosmologist is to know. Your ignorance is legendary, the stuff of comedy.

* There's no argument for the concept of nothing so why should I give you anything to refute it. This is like asking me to give you a solid argument against Unicorn or fairies. Come on do better and stop wasting both of our time .


* You are adding things I never said and calling me arrogant lol. Just come out and admit you don't know the meaning of metaphysics because it obvious. Cosmologist, ontologist and others are all part of physical metaphysics which involves the real nature of Time, Space, Laws of Nature, Matter etc. Sir You are actually the ignorant one here.


*There's no difference between you believing in a mystical metaphysical notion and those religious folks.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 8:56am On Mar 05, 2023
afrodoc2:


You are welcome. It is good to try to verify that kind of incendiary info before passing it on. Things are dicey and dangerous enough as it is.
I think verification can be done anywhere including here.....
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 8:59am On Mar 05, 2023
Donjazet2:
People of enugu are seriously confused on who to vote for. Many of them are linked to chimaroke and chimaroke has become political poison in the state. His endorsement is now a kiss of death. cheesy

I think Obi has to make to make an endorsement here. People are torn between nweke of apga and edeoga of Labor and if that confusion gets to the polls, PDP will definitely win again.




Very important. Though I believe Edeoga will get the win. Frank nweke & Peter mba are 4rm nkanu...nkanu v0tes dey divided already. Peter's deputy is 4rm udenu lga & u know Ugwuanyi is 4rm udenu. 0ther lga in nsukka won't support udenu 2 g0 back 2 g0vt house after doing 8yrs as governor.

LP is VERY VERY strong in nsukka
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Tataffo: 9:00am On Mar 05, 2023
Bombblacks:


* There's no argument for the concept of nothing so why should I give you anything to refute it. This is like asking me to give you a solid argument against Unicorn or fairies. Come on do better and stop wasting both of our time .


* You are adding things I never said and calling me arrogant lol. Just come out and admit you don't know the meaning of metaphysics because it obvious. Cosmologist, ontologist and others are all part of physical metaphysics which involves the real nature of Time, Space, Laws of Nature, Matter etc. Sir You are actually the ignorant one here.


*There's no difference between you believing in a mystical metaphysical notion and those religious folks. lipsrsealed

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 9:06am On Mar 05, 2023
Segedinho:

I think verification can be done anywhere including here.....




Ok. Keep up your good work.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 9:07am On Mar 05, 2023
Good point.

Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 9:10am On Mar 05, 2023
Bombblacks:


* There's no argument for the concept of nothing so why should I give you anything to refute it. This is like asking me to give you a solid argument against Unicorn or fairies. Come on do better and stop wasting both of our time .


* You are adding things I never said and calling me arrogant lol. Just come out and admit you don't know the meaning of metaphysics because it obvious. Cosmologist, ontologist and others are all part of physical metaphysics which involves the real nature of Time, Space, Laws of Nature, Matter etc. Sir You are actually the ignorant one here.


*There's no difference between you believing in a mystical metaphysical notion and those religious folks.
Lols, you're very confused and ignorant. I don't have time to waste with someone that doesn't have basic knowledge about science.

There's physics and there's metaphysics. I can see your quality of education is so shallow calling experts in Physics metaphysicists.

There's nothing special in award-winning physicists that have written their names on the sands of time through their works, but there's something special about a nonentity like you.

Tell me another joke. He doesn't even know what cosmology, a branch of Physics, is.

Better you keep quiet when you don't jack about a topic of discussion before embarrassing yourself in public.

Confusing cosmology in metaphysics with cosmology in Physics, when everyone familiar with the history of Physics and the history of science knows all the fields and disciplines came from philosophy including science.

Your IQ and education are questionable when you mix up cosmology in metaphysics with cosmology in Physics even after seeing a renowned scientist like Prof Krauss mentioned.

Anyway, you've not said anything tangible other than metaphysical mumbo-jumbo.

Facts don't care about your emotions and your fixed world-view based on ignorance and shallow thinking.

The concept of Nothing or Vacuum is a solid explanation on the Beginning of the Universe, which could even have no beginning as some philosophers and scientists say.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 9:10am On Mar 05, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:


Very important. Though I believe Edeoga will get the win. Frank nweke & Peter mba are 4rm nkanu...nkanu v0tes dey divided already. Peter's deputy is 4rm udenu lga & u know Ugwuanyi is 4rm udenu. 0ther lga in nsukka won't support udenu 2 g0 back 2 g0vt house after doing 8yrs as governor.

LP is VERY VERY strong in nsukka

Yeah, obi has to be step in here for Enugu. He is now a kingmaker in the region. Soludo in Anambra can kiss second tenure goodbye.


Now, Whenever I hear all these things about region a candidate comes from, especially within states, I just shake my head. cheesy cheesy

Normally this should be the last thing considered but it's such a big deal. Micro zoning inside micro zoning. cheesy

Even local government chairman, people will still be talking about it going between villages. Is not as if when the leaders go there, they remember their region sef. They are usually all as bad for everybody..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OkpaNsukkaisBae(m): 9:11am On Mar 05, 2023
A001:

Lols, is Yahweh an atheist? Sounds like a prayer an entity like Yahweh would recite.




Have you forgotten that his ways are mysterious?..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 9:12am On Mar 05, 2023
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 9:12am On Mar 05, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:





Have you forgotten that his ways are mysterious?..
Lols.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 9:14am On Mar 05, 2023
Omoo, this Rhodes family no be here oo. cheesy

This GVR guy actually comes from Lagos founding fathers bloodline. grin cheesy

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