Dtruthspeaker:


Did you not hear, if thy father and mother (and neighbour) doth not give me peace, love, kindness, then The Lord Wil take me up and show me His loving kindnesses and peace.

And if I do no wrong, then I would not be needing forgiveness, so you see,I don't need anyone to give me my due. If they don't give me, The Lord would raise up stones and birds to give me., So I really don't need them to give me, when they fail, The Lord Himself, gives me, so I am fine either way and I win either way.



Christians are Law abiding and The Law says "DO THE GOOD" Psalm 37:3

Or as a very beautiful Old Righteous Court once beautifully described it.
"The tenants of The Law are to Live Honestly, Harm No One and to give to each their due"!

And Psalm 19:7- 9, o so beautiful.

Mat 5:44:
"But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you ,"

Mat 10:23:
" When they persecute you in one town, flee to the next ; for truly, I say to you, you will not have gone through all the towns of Israel, before the Son of man comes."


What else sir?

MaxInDHouse:
It's extremely difficult to believe (trust) Jesus' words if you're not taught by his brothers why Jesus' words makes perfect sense.
So coming here to quote Jesus when you can't inculcate in the hearts of your followers by the act of TEACHING {Matthew 28:20} will be fruitless! John 15:4

This is why you need to identify Jesus' brothers who are feeding Jesus' sheep today! John 21:15-17

If you're interested in knowing why we must forgive and even pray for those who are looking forward to killing us {Luke 6:27-28 compare to Luke 23:34 & Act 7:60} feel free to ask but if you're ok with what you're doing never mind.

Rather than pointing men to the Words and Teachings of Christ, these people will point men to their organisation.
This is exactly what is expected of Self righteous servants of some old men in New York who call themselves the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witness Organisation!

Not surprised one bit!

TenQ:

Rather than pointing men to the Words and Teachings of Christ, these people will point men to their organisation.
This is exactly what is expected of Self righteous servants of some old men in New York who call themselves the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witness Organisation!

Not surprised one bit!

Thanks for your response so since you feel there's no need learning from the older men in New York you can now help your followers to start practicing what those following the older men in New York are already practicing throughout the world. Matthew 7:16-18

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:


Thanks for your response so since you feel there's no need learning from the older men in New York you can now help your followers to start practicing what those following the older men in New York are already practicing throughout the world. Matthew 7:16-18

May you have PEACE!

I will rather Live by the Words and Teachings of Christ, than by the fabrications of any group or men.

I will rather Christ Himself commend me of my faithfulness to Him rather than acclaim to myself pass mark of good works.

Indeed according to JESUS the Christ to we His servants

Luk 17:10:
"So you also, when you have done all that is commanded you, say, 'We are unworthy servants; we have only done what was our duty.'""

Of course, you need the validation of your organisation heads to mark your report card. Please continue

If at all I am to boast of ANYTHING, I will boast only in the Lord my Saviour!

1Cor 1:31:
"therefore, as it is written, "Let him who boasts, boast of the Lord.""

Thanks

TenQ:

I will rather Live by the Words and Teachings of Christ, than by the fabrications of any group or men.

I will rather Christ Himself commend me of my faithfulness to Him rather than acclaim to myself pass mark of good works.

Indeed according to JESUS the Christ to we His servants

Luk 17:10:
"So you also, when you have done all that is commanded you, say, 'We are unworthy servants; we have only done what was our duty.'""

Of course, you need the validation of your organisation heads to mark your report card. Please continue

If at all I am to boast of ANYTHING, I will boast only in the Lord my Saviour!

1Cor 1:31:
"therefore, as it is written, "Let him who boasts, boast of the Lord.""

Thanks

"So you also,when you have done all that is commandedyou, say, 'We are unworthy servants; we have only done what was our duty"

The above quote is what i need in your post.

So Jesus wasn't talking to individuals rather to a group of people who must say:

"WE are unworthy servants; WE have only done what was our duty"

Note that Jesus never said:

"I am unworthy servant, I have only done what is my duty"

Thanks for your time, i have known and come to RECOGNIZE those older men whom Jesus is talking to as a group and i have seen the FRUITAGE {Matthew 7:16-18} of their WORKS! James 2:18-26

So you can continue your own works here since you're optimistic that you will convince your followers to obey Jesus' words as quoted to them!

Dtruthspeaker:


Off point/Change of Post!

Proof you have no valid counter!

You are a bigoted fool if you still don't get it.

AntiChristian:


You are a bigoted fool if you still don't get it.

See frustration of a stupid mad devil Muslim because he had nothing sensible to say

Dtruthspeaker:


See frustration of a stupid mad devil Muslim because he had nothing sensible to say

I have already said what I have to say! Na you dey look for excuse for your God sending people to be killed for worshipping other gods!

MaxInDHouse:


The above quote is what i need in your post.

So Jesus wasn't talking to individuals rather to a group of people who must say:

"WE are unworthy servants; WE have only done what was our duty"

Note that Jesus never said:

"I am unworthy servant, I have only done what is my duty"

Thanks for your time, i have known and come to RECOGNIZE those older men whom Jesus is talking to as a group and i have seen the FRUITAGE {Matthew 7:16-18} of their WORKS! James 2:18-26

So you can continue your own works here since you're optimistic that you will convince your followers to obey Jesus' words as quoted to them!

It is not about what Jesus did not say but what he said:

Was Jesus talking to Jehovah's Witnesses?
Prove it if you can!

So, We means JW or Christ's true Disciples!? LOL!!

Jesus was speaking to His disciples who are known by this
John 8:31:
"Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed;"

The condition was CONTINUING in Christ's Words.


Like I said:
I will rather Live by the Words and Teachings of Christ, than by the fabrications of any group or men.

I will rather Christ Himself commend me of my faithfulness to Him rather than acclaim to myself pass mark of good works.

Indeed according to JESUS the Christ to we His servants

Luk 17:10:
"So you also, when you have done all that is commanded you, say, 'We are unworthy servants; we have only done what was our duty.'""

Of course, you need the validation of your organisation heads to mark your report card. Please continue

If at all I am to boast of ANYTHING, I will boast only in the Lord my Saviour!

1Cor 1:31:
"therefore, as it is written, "Let him who boasts, boast of the Lord.""

AntiChristian:


I have already said what I have to say! Na you dey look for excuse for your God sending people to be killed for worshipping other gods!

Haven't I asked you to show me where the Law was applied to non-Israelites ?
Just one example would be okay!

But you have to peddle a lie to remain relevant." ...God sending people to be killed for worshipping other gods"!?

According to your warped understanding, It seems God wasn't aware that the Arabians were idolaters and seemed to miss them from the killings!

It's exactly the same way you peddled a confused understanding of Trinity in the Qur'an!

TenQ:

Haven't I asked you to show me where the Law was applied to non-Israelites ?
Just one example would be okay!

This makes no sense! Whether it was applied to the non-israelites or not! The law does exist and it was from your God!
Every other thing na excuse!

But you have to peddle a lie to remain relevant." ...God sending people to be killed for worshipping other gods"!?

According to your warped understanding, It seems God wasn't aware that the Arabians were idolaters and seemed to miss them from the killings!

It's exactly the same way you peddled a confused understanding of Trinity in the Qur'an!

Your God made a law on apostasy!
ISIS too claim they have a law on apostasy and used it.

Is it not the same thing?

As your God sanctioned killings na so theirs too sanctioned same!

Stop being an hypocrite!

TenQ:

It is not about what Jesus did not say but what he said:
Was Jesus talking to Jehovah's Witnesses?
Prove it if you can!
So, We means JW or Christ's true Disciples!? LOL!!

Jesus was speaking to His disciples who are known by this
John 8:31:
"Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If you continue in my word, then are you my disciples indeed;"

The condition was CONTINUING in Christ's Words.


Like I said:
I will rather Live by the Words and Teachings of Christ, than by the fabrications of any group or men.

I will rather Christ Himself commend me of my faithfulness to Him rather than acclaim to myself pass mark of good works.

Indeed according to JESUS the Christ to we His servants

Luk 17:10:
"So you also, when you have done all that is commanded you, say, 'We are unworthy servants; we have only done what was our duty.'""

Of course, you need the validation of your organisation heads to mark your report card. Please continue

If at all I am to boast of ANYTHING, I will boast only in the Lord my Saviour!

1Cor 1:31:
"therefore, as it is written, "Let him who boasts, boast of the Lord.""

Please continue with your group as you're using the pronouns in plural forms.
I am with my group as Jesus was directing his words to a group of people not an individual.

MaxInDHouse:


Please continue with your group as you're using the pronouns in plural forms.
I am with my group as Jesus was directing his words to a group of people not an individual.

I don't have a group like you o!
I belong to the Body of Christ: and Christ Jesus words rule over my entire existence.

But you belong to the group of impostures and replacement for Christ (those old men), please continue in your group o!

AntiChristian:
This makes no sense! Whether it was applied to the non-israelites or not! The law does exist and it was from your God!
Every other thing na excuse!



Your God made a law on apostasy!
ISIS too claim they have a law on apostasy and used it.

Is it not the same thing?

As your God sanctioned killings na so theirs too sanctioned same!

Stop being an hypocrite!

It is a shame despite all your mouth you cannot find just one example where the law of Moses was applied on non-Israelites. You cannot even find one evidence to show that the Jews ever waged a Jihad against their neighbours.

Too bad!

1. It is apparent that the God of Muslims is totally different from the God of Christians otherwise, Christians would have been safe from slaughter by Muslims
2. Muslims enforce their own laws of rape and pillage on non-Muslims especially Christians and Jews who should pay heavy tax to stay alive.


Let me ask you a Question:
Why is it that Allah is willing to accept Money from Christians and Jews rather than force them to convert to Islam?
I assume Allah is more interested in saving Christians and Jews from their ERROR so that they can enter Al-Jannah

AntiChristian:

I have already said what I have to say! Na you dey look for excuse for your God sending people to be killed for worshipping other gods!

Now you are confessing that you know that you are guilty of worshipping other gods, hence your lamentation hahahaha even if nobody kill you, you don already die! hahahaha

TenQ:

I don't have a group like you o!
I belong to the Body of Christ: and Christ Jesus words rule over my entire existence.

But you belong to the group of impostures and replacement for Christ (those old men), please continue in your group o!

Of course i must continue with my group since it's evident that Jesus was addressing a group not an individual that body you know go and work with them.

MaxInDHouse:


Of course i must continue with my group since it's evident that Jesus was addressing a group not an individual that body you know go and work with them.

Stop being a LIAR!
Jesus was addressing His disciples NOT JW organisation.

Even though I know that even with the evidence in front of your eyes, you still will not see, I show you the full scripture for you to read.

Luk 17:1-10:
"Then said he to the disciples , It is impossible but that offenses will come: but woe to him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. Take heed to yourselves : If your brother trespass against you, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to you, saying, I repent; you shall forgive him. And the apostles said to the Lord, Increase our faith. And the Lord said, If you had faith as a grain of mustard seed, you might say to this sycamine tree, Be you plucked up by the root, and be you planted in the sea; and it should obey you. But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say to him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat? And will not rather say to him, Make ready with which I may sup, and gird yourself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward you shall eat and drink? Does he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not. So likewise you, when you shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do."



Follow your old men to perdition if you want but It isn't because you weren't warned and corrected.

TenQ:

Stop being a LIAR!
Jesus was addressing His disciples NOT JW organisation...

Aren't Jw devils, thieves?

They won't be thieves if they didn't steal another person's property!

And they won't be devils if they did not lie and steal and destroy.

Dtruthspeaker:


Aren't Jw devils, thieves?

They won't be thieves if they steal another person's property!

And they won't be devils if they did not lie and steal and destroy.

They can twist ANY scripture for Africa!

TenQ:

They can twist ANY scripture for Africa!

They can twist a pawpaw tree if it is against them. Big time devils are they and the jws here especially Maxdidiot, have only made me hate them more and more for, he shows all the dirt and filth in their hearts.

Whereas I first thought that most of them were not too bad when I relate with them when they come visiting but now I angrily drive them away, since max has shown all the evil filths that is in their hearts.

TenQ:

Stop being a LIAR!
Jesus was addressing His disciples NOT JW organisation.

Even though I know that even with the evidence in front of your eyes, you still will not see, I show you the full scripture for you to read.

Luk 17:1-10:
"Then said he to the disciples , It is impossible but that offenses will come: but woe to him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. Take heed to yourselves : If your brother trespass against you, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. And if he trespass against you seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to you, saying, I repent; you shall forgive him. And the apostles said to the Lord, Increase our faith. And the Lord said, If you had faith as a grain of mustard seed, you might say to this sycamine tree, Be you plucked up by the root, and be you planted in the sea; and it should obey you. But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say to him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat? And will not rather say to him, Make ready with which I may sup, and gird yourself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken; and afterward you shall eat and drink? Does he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not. So likewise you, when you shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do."



Follow your old men to perdition if you want but It isn't because you weren't warned and corrected.

The highlighted is really simple and that's what i believe.

Jesus was addressing a GROUP not an individual!

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is really simple and that's what i believe.

Jesus was addressing a GROUP not an individual!

And Olē, thief thief, it was not your group o. Olē group!

Dtruthspeaker:

And Olē, thief thief, it was not your group o. Olē group!

All i'm saying is that Jesus' utterances their is for a group not an individual so if you say it's not my group that's another case but do you agree that Jesus was addressing a GROUP?

Dtruthspeaker:


They can twist a pawpaw tree if it is against them. Big time devils are they and the jws here especially Maxdidiot, have only made me hate them more and more for, he shows all the dirt and filth in their hearts.

Whereas I first thought that most of them were not too bad when I relate with them when they come visiting but now I angrily drive them away, since max has shown all the evil filths that is in their hearts.

There is no point hating them else you'll not be different from them. You can understand that they are under the influence of lying spirits who has given them something that looks like the Light but not. They are thoroughly convinced about their position and even the Light of the Scriptures doesn't free them from the lies from their headquarters

MaxInDHouse:


The highlighted is really simple and that's what i believe.

Jesus was addressing a GROUP not an individual!

No sir,
You don't believe in the highlighted.

This is what you believe:

MaxInDHouse:


Thanks for your response so since you feel there's no need learning from the older men in New York you can now help your followers to start practicing what those following the older men in New York are already practicing throughout the world. Matthew 7:16-18

May you have PEACE!

MaxInDHouse:

...
Thanks for your time, i have known and come to RECOGNIZE those older men whom Jesus is talking to as a group and i have seen the FRUITAGE {Matthew 7:16-18} of their WORKS! James 2:18-26

So you can continue your own works here since you're optimistic that you will convince your followers to obey Jesus' words as quoted to them!

Rather than pointing men to the Words and Teachings of Christ, these people will point men to their organisation.
This is exactly what is expected of Self righteous servants of some old men in New York who call themselves the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witness Organisation!

Not surprised one bit!

TenQ:

There is no point hating them else you'll not be different from them. ..

I am different cos I do no evil and you are supposed to hate evil. Proverbs 6;16; 2 Chronicles 19:2

Dtruthspeaker:


I am different cos I do no evil and you are supposed to hate evil. Proverbs 6;16; 2 Chronicles 19:2

Of course, we are to hate Evil and Expose it.

We are to love even our Enemies as long as they are human: that we might be sons of our Father in heaven

TenQ:

Of course, we are to hate Evil and Expose it.

We are to love even our Enemies as long as they are human: that we might be sons of our Father in heaven

That is because you have not yet figured out what love is and I have given you the hints in this thread when you said this.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is because you have not yet figured out what love is and I have given you the hints in this thread when you said this.

Love is Selflessly Doing Everything at ones own expense to Help and Build the Recipient to become the BEST, FULFILLED and SUCCESSFUL version of themselves.

1Cor 13:4-7:
"Love is patient. Love shows-kindness. Love does not envy, does not brag, is not puffed-up, does not behave-dishonorably, does not seek its own things, is not provoked, does not count the bad, does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices-with the truth, bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."

TenQ:


1Cor 13:4-7:
"Love is patient. Love shows-kindness. Love does not envy, does not brag, is not puffed-up, does not behave-dishonorably, does not seek its own things, is not provoked, does not count the bad, does not rejoice over unrighteousness, but rejoices-with the truth, bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."

Also rendering "just is' to the wicked and destruction to the evil, is love in Motion

We have already gone through this.

Dtruthspeaker:


Also rendering "just is' to the wicked and destruction to the evil, is love in Motion

We have already gone through this.

Of course, God HIMSELF does the Justice.

Rom 12:19 NLV
"Christian brothers, never pay back someone for the bad he has done to you. Let the anger of God take care of the other person. The Holy Writings say, "I will pay back to them what they should get, says the Lord.""

TenQ:

Of course, God HIMSELF does the Justice...

Then no wahala. Let me continue hating the workers of iniquity and the doers of evil, calling on The Lord to give me Just is, because of the wickedness and evil they do!