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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:09am On Mar 08, 2023
jihday:
U-20 competition o
I say make I ask ni

This guys love miracles
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:13am On Mar 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


We are talking of when building the team and as typicalgamer pointed, only few will make it. Those few will be special.

They will get groomed in camp and will flourish. The yardstick for them to breakthrough is to be better than the Professionals and academy stars.

Why take a professional player to the U20 if a street player is better than him.
It is possible to do such a project quite alright but the question is will it be done every new U20 set?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:55am On Mar 08, 2023
Odunayaw:
It is possible to do such a project quite alright but the question is will it be done every new U20 set?

Why not?

For every new U20, we keep screening and building.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Parrot69: 8:33am On Mar 08, 2023
Samueltemi337:
It may seem as though Osimhen is going to Manchester United
If they can cough out over €100million
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:55am On Mar 08, 2023
Parrot69:

If they can cough out over €100million
and it’s no money to man United unless they decide not to sign him 😎

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 9:56am On Mar 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:
Why not?
For every new U20, we keep screening and building.

I don't thing you understand his Question,
The continually process involved time Resource and Preserve,
Can it be maintained
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 9:57am On Mar 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


The problem is you failed to understand the point. Bernardo Silva plays multiple roles for City, including as a forward, creative midfielder and sometimes purely hugging the wings.

However, in some games, Guardiola deploys him as a central midfielder.

Onyedika's style of play, is similar to the way Bernardo Silva plays the central midfield role. Meaning, he hugs the ball at a high frequency and uses technical skills to break tight areas.

So try to understand the point.
oga shut up and stop spitting trash

Bernado Silva ko aguero ni!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:01am On Mar 08, 2023
do4luv14:



I don't thing you understand his Question,

The continually process involved time Resource and Preserve,

Can it be maintained

Why can't it be maintained?

The open trials will not last forever. It is actually in a tiny part of the beginning. After that, a few selected special talents will become part of the team.

It is not hard to maintain. That is if the coaches and the NFF are ready to work to build a great pool of talents.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:02am On Mar 08, 2023
charlesemeka85:
oga shut up and stop spitting trash

Bernado Silva ko aguero ni!

You are running to abuse because you do not have a point to make. When you have a point to make, let me know.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 10:33am On Mar 08, 2023
Chief please let's not go the way of insults. Goodjoe na correct guy he might drop some opinions now and then we vehemently disagree with but he doesn't deserve to be abused. Let's keep it clean.

charlesemeka85:
oga shut up and stop spitting trash

Bernado Silva ko aguero ni!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:23pm On Mar 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Why not?

For every new U20, we keep screening and building.
I don't think it is sustainable
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:03pm On Mar 08, 2023
Odunayaw:
I don't think it is sustainable

Very sustainable.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:29pm On Mar 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Very sustainable.
I'd rather investment are made into Academies and infrastructure for them.

Quality academies and good competitions/league would yield a two fold result of quality players and economic benefit

Screening and camping players the way you explained it for every tournament cycle looks alot like a philanthropy scheme

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:33pm On Mar 08, 2023
Odunayaw:
I'd rather investment are made into Academies and infrastructure for them.

Quality academies and good competitions/league would yield a two fold result of quality players and economic benefit

Screening and camping players the way you explained it for every tournament cycle looks alot like a philanthropy scheme

Funny perspective. And you feel funding academies around the nation is not philanthropic.

Even if the FG sponsors academies and raise a battalion of Footballers, when it is time for tournaments, hold open screening to see if there are gems better than those produced by the academies.

If they are better, they should be given a chance to break in. It is a win win situation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 2:44pm On Mar 08, 2023
Well, just like someone opined, street is like the feeder of academies. I.e we all started from the streets or mostly.

It’s from the streets, break time, closing time, and then we come home, drop bag somewhere and carry ball go play outside. From there, you’d hear about 1 boy going to training at a school field and you join one.

Mushin in Lagos state is a football community, almost every guy played football at one time in one academy of sort. Every public school is a training ground of an academy and we had a lot, FC Robo(currently have a female side in women’s league, oshoala, rashida ajibade, onome ebi all played here)Satech FC(Raheem lawal played here) Super force, divine fa(the guy that keshi invited and gave no10 played here) etc and more just in mushin alone.

Also, there are kids who have never trained before and are 20x better than some of us who train everyday. E.g my classmate in sec. school. Chuckwuma who is insanely good. Apart from break time, closing time and sundays, he don’t play any football as he gotta be at his brothers shop at ladipo market and was far better than all of us(minus me tho)

So there are real Talents out there for real, guys who have never worn a soccer boot before, I swear.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:42pm On Mar 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Funny perspective. And you feel funding academies around the nation is not philanthropic.

Even if the FG sponsors academies and raise a battalion of Footballers, when it is time for tournaments, hold open screening to see if there are gems better than those produced by the academies.

If they are better, they should be given a chance to break in. It is a win win situation.
One genius has just been fired in Belgium. Am talking about Scott Parker who played possession football till he got Fulham relegated. But to balance it, he got Bournemouth up into the EPL before getting fired. Unfortunately Onyedika won't be able to work with him again.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 6:16pm On Mar 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Funny perspective. And you feel funding academies around the nation is not philanthropic.

Even if the FG sponsors academies and raise a battalion of Footballers, when it is time for tournaments, hold open screening to see if there are gems better than those produced by the academies.

If they are better, they should be given a chance to break in. It is a win win situation.
Where did you read me saying FG should fund academies?

Normally shouldn't proper academies have scouts finding those "gems"
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:36pm On Mar 08, 2023
Starboytwo:
Well, just like someone opined, street is like the feeder of academies. I.e we all started from the streets or mostly.

It’s from the streets, break time, closing time, and then we come home, drop bag somewhere and carry ball go play outside. From there, you’d hear about 1 boy going to training at a school field and you join one.

Mushin in Lagos state is a football community, almost every guy played football at one time in one academy of sort. Every public school is a training ground of an academy and we had a lot, FC Robo(currently have a female side in women’s league, oshoala, rashida ajibade, onome ebi all played here)Satech FC(Raheem lawal played here) Super force, divine fa(the guy that keshi invited and gave no10 played here) etc and more just in mushin alone.

Also, there are kids who have never trained before and are 20x better than some of us who train everyday. E.g my classmate in sec. school. Chuckwuma who is insanely good. Apart from break time, closing time and sundays, he don’t play any football as he gotta be at his brothers shop at ladipo market and was far better than all of us(minus me tho)

So there are real Talents out there for real, guys who have never worn a soccer boot before, I swear.

You're totally right... There's a lot of talents on the street.. I had this senior classmate in junior secondary school who also happened to be my church member. I also had a close friend too who I was classmates with..Both of them were insanely talented players.. Funny enough,they were on the same team in school,so their team were the best of the lot.. unfortunately,they couldn't pursue a career in football..They are into "other things" now..
When we talk about the most talented football countries in the world, Nigeria would definitely be among the top 10. The talent is there but the infrastructure needed to nurture the talent isnt there... Unfortunately,talent alone can only take you to a certain extent in life...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 7:59pm On Mar 08, 2023
Ah, why you come dey vex for our mutual friend like this? cheesy grin. That thrashing wey dem give us really enter. cheesy grin
charlesemeka85:
oga shut up and stop spitting trash

Bernado Silva ko aguero ni!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 8:01pm On Mar 08, 2023
Ah, wetin dey pain me be say you seem to believe in this stuff. You are actually seriously making this point. cheesy grin
TheGoodJoe:


The problem is you failed to understand the point. Bernardo Silva plays multiple roles for City, including as a forward, creative midfielder and sometimes purely hugging the wings.

However, in some games, Guardiola deploys him as a central midfielder.

Onyedika's style of play, is similar to the way Bernardo Silva plays the central midfield role. Meaning, he hugs the ball at a high frequency and uses technical skills to break tight areas.

So try to understand the point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:10pm On Mar 08, 2023
benji93:
Ah, wetin dey pain me be say you seem to believe in this stuff. You are actually seriously making this point. cheesy grin


If you read what you posted here, you have made no point.

The point is simple, Onyedika is a skillful defensive/Central midfielder. In possession, he likes to take on players especially when in tight spaces.

This is something Bernardo Silva likes to do. It is Bernardo Silva's playing style in central midfield.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:14pm On Mar 08, 2023
AndSunGorilla:

One genius has just been fired in Belgium. Am talking about Scott Parker who played possession football till he got Fulham relegated. But to balance it, he got Bournemouth up into the EPL before getting fired. Unfortunately Onyedika won't be able to work with him again.

Getting fired is not the end of the world. He picks himself and tries again. Diego Simeone got one of the biggest teams in Argentina relegated and was fired, that did not stop him from achieving greatness.

Personally, I think the time is too short to make such decision.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:18pm On Mar 08, 2023
Odunayaw:
Where did you read me saying FG should fund academies?

Normally shouldn't proper academies have scouts finding those "gems"

If the FG is not sponsoring, then that solution is a long way to come.

We are talking of urgent fixes.

Scouts will do their work. After that, hold open trials and if the coach sees a better talent than those scouted by scouts, he brings them into the team.

Finito.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 8:47pm On Mar 08, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Getting fired is not the end of the world. He picks himself and tries again. Diego Simeone got one of the biggest teams in Argentina relegated and was fired, that did not stop him from achieving greatness.

Personally, I think the time is too short to make such decision.
Thanks for the great response. I agree with all you said.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 9:47pm On Mar 08, 2023
From street to academy to professional

I have not seen from street straight to main professional team, rather to b team of the main team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 9:54pm On Mar 08, 2023
u20 is for young professionals, u17 is for academy players.

If you go to history of u20 especially Argentina s history under Jose Pekerman [ correct his name please], the highest win by any coach, all his boys were already young professionals. Some had already played one or two games for the main team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 9:56pm On Mar 08, 2023
Olympics is for those already playing national team football but still under that 23 years. Yes, not for young professionals

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 11:44pm On Mar 08, 2023
Is his lack of trophy because he is unlucky or just too stubborn to leave spurs for a title winning team

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:27am On Mar 09, 2023
Just uploaded Victor Osimhen vs Lazio on the website for anyone interested. It is the first video you'll see there.


https://naijabiasfootball.com/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Meliforme: 1:20am On Mar 09, 2023

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:46am On Mar 09, 2023
gamaliel9:
From street to academy to professional

I have not seen from street straight to main professional team, rather to b team of the main team
Street footballer straight to European club main team or Nigeria club main team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:05am On Mar 09, 2023
gamaliel9:
u20 is for young professionals, u17 is for academy players.

If you go to history of u20 especially Argentina s history under Jose Pekerman [ correct his name please], the highest win by any coach, all his boys were already young professionals. Some had already played one or two games for the main team


Is your football development system 1/10 of Argentina? All the clubs there have quality academy and there are rich football development systems there.

Go and read about when Bielsa took over Newell's Old boys. He scouted over a thousand players. That is one club.

Until we get to that stage, we need an alternative approach that suits the situation we find ourselves with a lot of talented players not catered for.

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