sooperrescue:

I did the research and it is either 25k kms or the equivalent in miles. Cars made in the USA go through stringent regulations that it will be very difficult to make cars that are not fit for their market. Every 15k miles, for some motorists, they might never get to the mileage in 2 years and for the transporters, it can be before 6 months. Do a survey on the Sienna that has been changed from 13 to 10 pins, majority are commercial

ariesbull:
I know but Toyota fears have high tendency to spoil

Benz fear has protective mechanism called Emergency mode which Toyota doesn't ...Benz fear rarely spoil

Toyota is over hyped

sooperrescue:


We know that it is overhyped and it is giving us headache but are there no solutions ? Buying a a used gear box for a 2018 Highlander for 2.5m is scary. The said car is very clean and nothing was done on the body and yet the gear failed. What should be the advice for the owners? Any real experts for Toyota cars should help resolve this issue. Money is scarce and car repairs are low and no one is smiling.

ariesbull:
I know but Toyota fears have high tendency to spoil

Benz fear has protective mechanism called Emergency mode which Toyota doesn't ...Benz fear rarely spoil

Toyota is over hyped

nurey:


Yes toyota is overpriced in Nigeria compared to other competitors.

As a seasoned technician that you are. You should rather investigate the reason for the failure a working gear box with no known defect won't pack up.

The said a replacement gear cost 2.5m for a car that cost close to 15m + I think that price is fair considering the vehicle is still less than 5years and a replacement gear will certainly have low miles.

Before you complain though concerning replacement cost, let's know what the competition replacement cost would be for cars in same category.

Nigerians want to buy expensive cars but don't want to pay for the expensive cost of maintenance and fix

sooperrescue:


We know that it is overhyped and it is giving us headache but are there no solutions ? Buying a a used gear box for a 2018 Highlander for 2.5m is scary. The said car is very clean and nothing was done on the body and yet the gear failed. What should be the advice for the owners? Any real experts for Toyota cars should help resolve this issue. Money is scarce and car repairs are low and no one is smiling.

sooperrescue:


Bros, this is experience talking. But your Sienna is not equipped with a manual transmission. All the transport companies that were using Sienna folded up. There is something that we always forget, that we are supposed to change the ATF every 15k miles. So if I ply Lagos Abuja, I should be changing the ATF every 3 months. No one is doing that and it is another reason for the gear failures. I guess it's one of the reasons why Toyota went to Ghana because they won't be able to handle the litigations if they were to be here. As we are analysing the faults and reasons of the faults, let us find a solution to this problem. I don't even want to talk about the ABS that cost over 1m on a GX 470 talkless of on the 2017 model of the highlander. Why will I buy an 18 year old 4 cylinder car for 4m? What am expecting to gain from it? If you are on the road, almost 80% are Toyota brand, it means that our motorists are suffering and smiling.

LaSenior:
all this transporters using seinna doesn't use ATF anymore on their gearbox they used visco 2000 as transmission fluid I asked them they said because they cover more miles a week that the normal ATF oil can't stand the heat, I remember when I used oando ATF for my gear box just little distance it heated up the oil starts burning and smell then it gets dark so I had to change it to seahorse and ever since then there has been difference

9icetoo:

They are known for being reliable and they actually are. No one hypes them. They do not claim to be what they are not.
https://www.waltersmercedesbenzofriverside.com/mercedes-benz-transmission-repair-and-service-in-riverside/

According to the site above, benz transmissions are good for 150k to 200k miles. After that, you are on your own. A vast majority of Toyotas and hondas on our roads today are way past these mileage and going strong. How many people can afford low mileage accident free toyotas?

Several have gone on to 500k miles on the same transmission.

Go and find out why transmissions are failing (perform proper investigations and diagnosis starting with the highlander trans you want to replace). I suggest you start with the writeup from Nurey. I am also here to help if you need me cos i can see research is not your thing.
Maybe, just maybe, you will open up a new market front for yourself.

I really don't get the whole toyota this toyota that. if toyota transmissions were that bad, they wouldn't score so high on the reliability index.

9icetoo:

I am waiting for him

Smartguyboy:


Emergency mood in benz you said it’s same like CHECK
in Avalon 2014 I know once you On your engine it will check if there’s any fault if there’s any it will indicate.

ariesbull:
it isn't not ....Benz has check


You can't compare Benz with Toyota ...who does that

Smartguyboy:


Only a fool does that
I am not comparing the two just telling you the emergency mood you are talking about Avalon have it too I know of. Once you start the car it will scan and tell you if there’s any problem.

sooperrescue:


Let us not go to Benz because that is another problem without solution. I am not changing any Toyota gear but it is a question on my mind. I saw a 13 pin Sienna being converted into 10 pin and in doing that, a lot of things are taken out of the car and it will be like that till it finally dies. I have a 2014 Corolla South Africa type and it's been with me for over a year and my parts seller would not want to sell another gear to me because he said it will not work, unless I buy engine and gear together. That the SA and the US models are different. The aim of the thread is to find a solution. Nor be everything be money 🤑

sooperrescue:


We know that it is overhyped and it is giving us headache but are there no solutions ? Buying a a used gear box for a 2018 Highlander for 2.5m is scary. The said car is very clean and nothing was done on the body and yet the gear failed. What should be the advice for the owners? Any real experts for Toyota cars should help resolve this issue. Money is scarce and car repairs are low and no one is smiling.

9icetoo:

They are known for being reliable and they actually are. No one hypes them. They do not claim to be what they are not.
https://www.waltersmercedesbenzofriverside.com/mercedes-benz-transmission-repair-and-service-in-riverside/

According to the site above, benz transmissions are good for 150k to 200k miles. After that, you are on your own. A vast majority of Toyotas and hondas on our roads today are way past these mileage and going strong. How many people can afford low mileage accident free toyotas?

Several have gone on to 500k miles on the same transmission.

Go and find out why transmissions are failing (perform proper investigations and diagnosis starting with the highlander trans you want to replace). I suggest you start with the writeup from Nurey. I am also here to help if you need me cos i can see research is not your thing.
Maybe, just maybe, you will open up a new market front for yourself.

I really don't get the whole toyota this toyota that. if toyota transmissions were that bad, they wouldn't score so high on the reliability index.

ariesbull:
that isn't what you get in benz

I have driven two benz I drove a C class and I drive a ML 4matic

Benz gear is designed that if anything happened to the gear such as low oil or broken sump ! The gear will enter the emergency mode and this mode means that the gear will not move more than gear 1 and the car will never speed even if you eev it highest ...it is a mechanism to protect the gear

You rarely see benz owners talking about buying new transmission. In short it is rare even in mechanics ! ...

That is why it is rare to see a benz owner changing gear unless it is flooded even if it was. My car has been flooded when I was driving C class..the flood in ikeja messed the C class up and swallowed the car yet the gear was still in tact

The car will be beeping until you fix the emergency mode

I have never had a problem with gear in benz for the past 10yrs I have been driving benz

Just like overheating...the ML can't overheat cos there is a sensor in the radiator that tells you when the water or coolant is very low and you need to top it ...even before the temperature goes up

My first car was a Japanese,very trashy car, since I have been driving benz I get rest of mind in short from last year till now I never visit mechanic apart from changing oil


But when I was driving Japanese ,my mech na my friend

Smartguyboy:

That was how one radio mechanic 👨‍🔧 was finding it very difficult to open my car dashboard because my reverse camera wasn’t working I have to stop him and give him either 1500 or 2k and left the place .

Smartguyboy:

Respect 🫡
I wanted to go for E350 as my first car they advised me not to use such big car to start driving that why I went for avalone. My next whip will be E350.

dangervu:
Uuuhm Glad i found this thread,i am not mech professional like most of those who have contributed, but out rightly condemning a Toyota as over rate is what i disagree with, my first choice of car was honda, honda showed me whinnny until i switch to Toyota from orobo to pencil light big daddy 2005,2006 ,i have only had issues with my 2006 big daddy gears,the others where fantastic durable cars ,i had no cause to open the the engine or gear before it was sold.....

ariesbull:
lol

Madness says who! Avalon and E 350 is same size...it is like Avalon is even longer than E 350 that is why they call Avalon (Long John ) and no secondhand value ....na Chief and Baale car

Are you a Baale that sells land ? Good lock with that car ! That car transmission na like 700k and engine (V6 2GR Toyota engine ) is about 800k

Smartguyboy:


Lol 😝

Forget Benz na Benz
Though Avalon 2014 is machine

ariesbull:
you still ended up saying the same thing...Gear problem in your Toyota


As of Honda ...that one is notorious for 2 things ...Gears and legs (I don't even touch that Aboki car)

Orobo, pencil light are Toyota that they tried to build to last those 2000 series aren't built to last obsolescence is the principal they use to build these cars

ariesbull:


Many benz trans have done oner 300k and still strong and I have driven benz pass those and sold them never had a single trans issue for the past 10yrs plus

The truth is that Toyota build with cheap materials and also most of their gears are CVT and we know that CVT gears don't last ! Benz rarely built CVT even bmw or Volvo


Asian car producers love cutting corners and doing lots of recalls

dangervu:



if not for the weaken naira to dollar toyota is still the best at that given price compare to other vehicle

diportivo:

9icetoo:

Let him be.

No teach am. No tell am. Watch the film cumrade.

ariesbull:
that isn't what you get in benz

I have driven two benz I drove a C class and I drive a ML 4matic

Benz gear is designed that if anything happened to the gear such as low oil or broken sump ! The gear will enter the emergency mode and this mode means that the gear will not move more than gear 1 and the car will never speed even if you eev it highest ...it is a mechanism to protect the gear

You rarely see benz owners talking about buying new transmission. In short it is rare even in mechanics ! ...

That is why it is rare to see a benz owner changing gear unless it is flooded even if it was. My car has been flooded when I was driving C class..the flood in ikeja messed the C class up and swallowed the car yet the gear was still in tact

The car will be beeping until you fix the emergency mode

I have never had a problem with gear in benz for the past 10yrs I have been driving benz

Just like overheating...the ML can't overheat cos there is a sensor in the radiator that tells you when the water or coolant is very low and you need to top it ...even before the temperature goes up

My first car was a Japanese,very trashy car, since I have been driving benz I get rest of mind in short from last year till now I never visit mechanic apart from changing oil


But when I was driving Japanese ,my mech na my friend