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Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 8:17am On Mar 12, 2023
Now let's begin with the definition of Almighty.
It simply means having all power. So does Jesus Christ have all power?
Matthew 28. 18
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
The bible teaches that he has all power and that makes him Almighty.
Sometimes modern Christians try to differentiate between Jesus Christ and our Father in heaven by saying only our Father in heaven is Almighty. But from this one verse, we learn that it is not true. Jesus Christ is also Almighty.
Again, there is the argument that Isaiah called him the mighty God and not the Almighty God.
Well even Jesus Christ himself did not claim to be Almighty until after his resurrection. He became Almighty only after he had overcome all things.

Revelation 21:7

“He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
It was only after he overcame all things that he inherited all powers.

Revelation 3:21

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 8:47am On Mar 12, 2023
Jesus wasn't almighty as you said. He was protected by his parents from the evil king at birth! Such helplessness!

He was said to have prayed to a higher authority many times!

He even fasted!

He acknowledged he had a God who sent him.

He was asked about the hour and he said he doesn't know it. Only God knows it.

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by sulakishop(m): 8:47am On Mar 12, 2023
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Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 9:20am On Mar 12, 2023
AntiChristian:
Jesus wasn't almighty as you said. He was protected by his parents from the evil king at birth! Such helplessness!

He was said to have prayed to a higher authority many times!

He even fasted!

He acknowledged he had a God who sent him.

He was asked about the hour and he said he doesn't know it. Only God knows it.

I am not sure you understood what I wrote. Jesus became Almighty when he overcame all. That was when all power was given to him

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 9:23am On Mar 12, 2023
AntiChristian:
Jesus wasn't almighty as you said. He was protected by his parents from the evil king at birth! Such helplessness!

He was said to have prayed to a higher authority many times!

He even fasted!

He acknowledged he had a God who sent him.

He was asked about the hour and he said he doesn't know it. Only God knows it.

Power and perfection did not come to Jesus Christ from day one.
Hebrews 5:8-9
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
It took learning, Obidence and work
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:25am On Mar 12, 2023
Yes He is because The All Mighty of all All Mighties, His Father, gave it to Him!
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:29am On Mar 12, 2023
AntiChristian:
Jesus wasn't almighty as you said. He was protected by his parents from the evil king at birth! Such helplessness!..

You are very stupid person else you would have known that when A soldier wants to catch you, he would not wear his uniform.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 9:41am On Mar 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


You are very stupid person else you would have known that when A soldier wants to catch you, he would not wear his uniform.
Guy the purpose of the internet is not to insult everyone that disagrees with your position. We don't all have to agree but we can all be respectful. You owe Antichristian an apology.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 9:42am On Mar 12, 2023
tctrills:

Power and perfection did not come to Jesus Christ from day one.
Hebrews 5:8-9
8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; 9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
It took learning, Obidence and work

So your aclaimed Jesus gradually got his God mojo!

I thought same Hebrews said Jesus Christ was the same yesterday today and forever!

All na lie!
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 9:45am On Mar 12, 2023
tctrills:

I am not sure you understood what I wrote. Jesus became Almighty when he overcame all. That was when all power was given to him

Who gave him all powers?
Does that person now becomes powerless?

How is Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and forever?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:46am On Mar 12, 2023
tctrills:

Guy the purpose of the internet is not to insult everyone that disagrees with your position. We don't all have to agree but we can all be respectful. You owe Antichristian an apology.

No one relates with stupid people offline or online. That clearly tells us all that stupidity is not allowed in a social environment.

We are allowed to have contrary opinions but please stupidity is not allowed.

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 9:52am On Mar 12, 2023
AntiChristian:


So your aclaimed Jesus gradually got his God mojo!

I thought same Hebrews said Jesus Christ was the same yesterday today and forever!

All na lie!
Yes he is the same. Please quote the entire verse. That verse was speaking about the teachings and consistency of Christ. It never said he did not need to learn.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine you are a teacher and you have a kid that has been the best in class from primary 1 to 6. Speaking about his consistency,You could say, "John has been the same from primary 1 to 6. It does not mean that John did not learn and grow.
Do you understand it now?

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 9:56am On Mar 12, 2023
AntiChristian:


Who gave him all powers?
Does that person now becomes powerless?

How is Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and forever?
Now you have asked a very good question.
God's power does not reduce when he gives it to you.
God gave power to all the prophets but his power never decreased.
To your second question.
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine you are a teacher and you have a kid that has been the best in class from primary 1 to 6. Speaking about his consistency,You could say, "John has been the same from primary 1 to 6. It does not mean that John did not learn and grow.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 9:59am On Mar 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


No one relates with stupid people offline or online. That clearly tells us all that stupidity is not allowed in a social environment.

We are allowed to have contrary opinions but please stupidity is not allowed.
So you insult someone and he insults you back and you insult him more. Oga there is more to life. But you are an adult, you know what's best for you.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 10:05am On Mar 12, 2023
tctrills:

Now you have asked a very good question.
God's power does not reduce when he gives it to you.
God gave power to all the prophets but his power never decreased.
To your second question.
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine you are a teacher and you have a kid that has been the best in class from primary 1 to 6. Speaking about his consistency,You could say, "John has been the same from primary 1 to 6. It does not mean that John did not learn and grow.

You have not explained "all" powers given to Jesus.

What does "all" mean to you?

Does it mean "some"?

How is Jesus the same yesterday without power today and tomorrow after getting power?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:05am On Mar 12, 2023
tctrills:

So you insult someone and he insults you back and you insult him more. Oga there is more to life. But you are an adult, you know what's best for you.

He is not supposed to insult me back for he supposed to know that what he is said is completely unacceptable in social discuss

And actually if he insults me back, depending on the type of insult, I may walk away from the room.

And that is why off line is better than online discussions because offline, we won't talk to such people and they would be casted out .
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 10:09am On Mar 12, 2023
tctrills:

Yes he is the same. Please quote the entire verse. That verse was speaking about the teachings and consistency of Christ. It never said he did not need to learn.
Let me give you an example.
Imagine you are a teacher and you have a kid that has been the best in class from primary 1 to 6. Speaking about his consistency,You could say, "John has been the same from primary 1 to 6. It does not mean that John did not learn and grow.
Do you understand it now?

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.
When do you guys started quoting contextully?
Even at this, God was learning till a stage right?

When did his learning stopped?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 10:09am On Mar 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


He is not supposed to insult me back for he supposed to know that what he is said is completely unacceptable in social discuss

And actually if he insults me back, depending on the type of insult, I may walk away from the room.

And that is why off line is better than online discussions because offline, we won't talk to such people and they would be casted out .
You call someone stupid but you expect a stupid person not to insult you back. Brilliant.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 10:10am On Mar 12, 2023
AntiChristian:

When do you guys started quoting contextully?
Even at this, God was learning till a stage right?

When did his learning stopped?
It stopped when he learnt all. When he became Almighty.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:14am On Mar 12, 2023
tctrills:

You call someone stupid but you expect a stupid person not to insult you back. Brilliant.

Many have been called stupid and they did not insult because they were wise. The wise learn from correction and when they come back, no will call them stupid validly
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 10:16am On Mar 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Many have been called stupid and they did not insult because they were wise. The wise learn from correction and when they come back, no will call them stupid validly
Lol stupid is the opposite of wise
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 10:20am On Mar 12, 2023
Dtruthspeaker:


Many have been called stupid and they did not insult because they were wise. The wise learn from correction and when they come back, no will call them stupid validly
Also, I trust you, you would never hold back if anyone called you stupid online. Do into others as you want them to do unto you. The Golden rule.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 9:36am On Mar 13, 2023
tctrills:

It stopped when he learnt all. When he became Almighty.

God was learning!
God became almighty then died!
Mention another God who gradually acquired his godship before dying?

This is funny!
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 9:58am On Mar 13, 2023
AntiChristian:


God was learning!
God became almighty then died!
Mention another God who gradually acquired his godship before dying?

This is funny!
Why is it funny?
Jesus Christ has set that same path for everyone.
So I don't believe in other God's so I don't see why I should mention other God's to you.
Now for your correction, I did not say Jesus Christ gradually acquired his Godship. I said he gradually obtained perfection and became Almighty.
I understand you don't believe it but that the truth.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by AntiChristian: 10:45am On Mar 13, 2023
tctrills:

Why is it funny?
Jesus Christ has set that same path for everyone.
So I don't believe in other God's so I don't see why I should mention other God's to you.
Now for your correction, I did not say Jesus Christ gradually acquired his Godship. I said he gradually obtained perfection and became Almighty.
I understand you don't believe it but that the truth.
Your claims are funny!
When someone that was born by a human becomes God in your sight! Is that clownish?
That's the truth because you believed it right or because Paul said it?

Anyways Let me stick with my points!

1. “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Matthew 24:36

“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32

From the above we see that only the father is omniscient! Jesus (both his divine and human part) do not know all things! Even the Holy Spirit is not Omniscient!

2. Jesus said " the Father is greater than I” (John 14:28)
How can the father be greater than Jesus when they are supposed to be co-equal in Trinity? Jesus is 100% human and 100% God remember? How can the father who is 100% God be greater than Jesus?
Makes no sense!

3.For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5

This was Timothy speaking calling Jesus a (100%) man not God!

4. In John 1:18, No one has ever seen God....!

What about Jesus? Is he not God anymore?

5. Jesus was protected by his human parents from birth! God had to send an Angel to warn them to flee!
Now when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Rise, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you, for Herod is about to search for the child, to destroy him.”Matthew 2:13

Was God afraid he would be killed by the evil king that he had to warn his parent to protect him?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 10:58am On Mar 13, 2023
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Your claims are funny! Anyone can find anything funny.
When someone that was born by a human becomes God in your sight! Is that clownish? I understand it's funny to you only because you don't believe it. But the truth is that it is God's promise to all the faithful. Is it also funny to you that an egg can develop into a butterfly? We see these things in nature every day so I wonder why you find it funny. I guess you would be laughing all the time because nature is filled with examples of organisms growing to their full potential.
That's the truth because you believed it right or because Paul said it? No because God said so.

Anyways Let me stick with my points!

1. “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Matthew 24:36


How can the father be greater than Jesus when they are supposed to be co-equal in Trinity? Jesus is 100% human and 100% God remember? How can the father who is 100% God be greater than Jesus?
The verses you quoted only makes my point that Jesus Christ did not start out with all knowledge and power.

For there is one God[/color] and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus. 1 Timothy 2:5

[i]This was Timothy speaking calling Jesus a (100%) man, not God!
Timothy did not call Jesus Christ a man.

4. In John 1:18,
No one has ever seen God.
[i][color=#000099]What about Jesus? Is he not God anymore?
You ask great questions. I could give you several verses in the bible where Jesus Christ is called God. Would that help you?


Jesus was protected by his human parents from birth! God had to send an Angel to warn them to flee!
[b][color=#000099]Now when they had departed, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream and said, “Rise, take the child and his mother, and flee to Egypt, and remain there until I tell you, for Herod is about to search for the child, to destroy him.
What is your point here?

Was God afraid he would be killed by the evil king that he had to warn his parent to protect him? God protected him, how is that a problem? what exactly is the question here? God warns and protects people how is that a bad thing?
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by 43Ronin: 11:01am On Mar 13, 2023
tctrills:

I am not sure you understood what I wrote. Jesus became Almighty when he overcame all. That was when all power was given to him
The one who gave him power is his superior not equal.

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 11:06am On Mar 13, 2023
43Ronin:

The one who gave him power is his superior not equal.
Superior could mean many things. It was only after Jesus Christ overcame all that he inherited all of God's powers. So yes, all the verses you quoted are correct but you could also add the verses where Christ was given all power to tell the complete story. Even if you don't believe it, that is the bible's position.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by 43Ronin: 12:32pm On Mar 13, 2023
tctrills:
Superior could mean many things. It was only after Jesus Christ overcame all that he inherited all of God's powers. So yes, all the verses you quoted are correct but you could also add the verses where Christ was given all power to tell the complete story. Even if you don't believe it, that is the bible's position.
He is seated at the right hand of God, not on God's throne.... they are 2 dft things. Right hand signifies power & authority which was bequeathed doesn't mean that the one who gave him the power is now powerless or equal in power. Look at this way, the police have to power & authority to maintain law & order. Who gave the police the power? The state(the people) that means no matter the authority the police have they are still answerable to the people. All this misconceptions about Jesus is because thr bible most of you posses is not complete. The complete Bible Jesus talks about how his name will be corrupted by Christian dom, how he doesn't need to offer sacrifices to any God because the hod he comes from doesn't need sacrifices to show you love or to forgive, being that sin is a result of lack of knowledge(gnosis).

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 1:13pm On Mar 13, 2023
43Ronin:

He is seated at the right hand of God, not on God's throne.... they are 2 dft things. Right hand signifies power & authority which was bequeathed doesn't mean that the one who gave him the power is now powerless or equal in power. Look at this way, the police have to power & authority to maintain law & order. Who gave the police the power? The state(the people) that means no matter the authority the police have they are still answerable to the people. All this misconceptions about Jesus is because thr bible most of you posses is not complete. The complete Bible Jesus talks about how his name will be corrupted by Christian dom, how he doesn't need to offer sacrifices to any God because the hod he comes from doesn't need sacrifices to show you love or to forgive, being that sin is a result of lack of knowledge(gnosis).
Revelation 3:21

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

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Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by MightySparrow: 2:37pm On Mar 13, 2023
tctrills:

I am not sure you understood what I wrote. Jesus became Almighty when he overcame all. That was when all power was given to him

He is an Antichrist. Don't mind him.
Re: Is Jesus Christ Almighty? by tctrills: 10:32pm On Mar 13, 2023
AntiChristian:


God was learning!
God became almighty then died!
Mention another God who gradually acquired his godship before dying?

This is funny!
You got a few things wrong here. Christ became Almighty after he overcame death.
Now Christ had always been a God. The cub of a lion is a lion but it needs to grow into it's full measure.
Christ grew into the measure of his father and because of him, the rest of us can grow into that measure.
It's the most natural law.

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