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Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by jesusjnr2020(m): 4:17pm On Mar 14, 2023
SmellingAnus:
Yeah I agree with you nothing wrong with the wealth you just described above
If you only agree with the wealth part, then we don't really agree. I agree with the apostles and prophets who said "not my will but God's Will be done" as Jesus did.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 5:30pm On Mar 14, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
If you only agree with the wealth part, then we don't really agree. I agree with the apostles and prophets who said "not my will but God's Will be done" as Jesus did.
Most important thing is that there is a part we agreed that wealth/riches from God is not bad ... Or is wealth from God bad?
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by jesusjnr2020(m): 6:22pm On Mar 14, 2023
SmellingAnus:
Most important thing is that there is a part we agreed that wealth/riches from God is not bad ... Or is wealth from God bad?
It's unchristlike to seek only the wealth part from God, so i'm not with you on that. I'm with Christ.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 7:33pm On Mar 14, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
It's unchristlike to seek only the wealth part from God, so i'm not with you on that. I'm with Christ.
I never said one should seek only wealth... What we agreed on is that wealth from God is not bad or is it bad?
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by QQIA: 7:35pm On Mar 14, 2023
SmellingAnus:
I never said one should seek only wealth... What we agreed on is that wealth from God is not bad or is it bad?
Have you started seeking wealth with your smelling anus? grin
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 7:37pm On Mar 14, 2023
QQIA:

Have you started seeking wealth with your smelling anus? grin
Lol... Everyone has a smelly anus especially after defecation... The joke is on you cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by QQIA: 7:40pm On Mar 14, 2023
SmellingAnus:
Lol... Everyone has a smelling anus especially after defecation... The joke is on you cheesy cheesy cheesy
It's no joke oh! grin

I want to link you up with a guy that likes anus.

His name is fman grin
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 7:53pm On Mar 14, 2023
QQIA:

It's no joke oh! grin

I want to link you up with a guy that likes anus.

His name is fman grin
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Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by QQIA: 7:56pm On Mar 14, 2023
SmellingAnus:
cheesy cheesy cheesy bye
Why tell me bye? grin grin grin

Is it a crime to source fine fine sisters from people? grin
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:20pm On Mar 14, 2023
SmellingAnus:
I never said one should seek only wealth... What we agreed on is that wealth from God is not bad or is it bad?
You've only clearly agreed on the part of wealth, but never that of "not my will but the Will of God be done" as Jesus did and also all His disciples, hence we can't agree.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 9:27pm On Mar 14, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
You've only clearly agreed on the part of wealth, but never that of "not my will but the Will of God be done" as Jesus did and also all His disciples, hence we can't agree.
I believe in the will of God ... I never told you I am against the will of God , even if his will may be to bring wealth on some persons, I am not against it...
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by jesusjnr2020(m): 8:25am On Mar 15, 2023
SmellingAnus:
I believe in the will of God ... I never told you I am against the will of God , even if his will may be to bring wealth on some persons, I am not against it...
Anyone could claim to believe in the Will of God, but at the same time not be willing for the God's Will to be done in their lives whatever it may be as in the example Jesus gave to us, and that which the disciples followed, so that doesn't change anything. You have every right to chose how you want to follow God though. I have decided to follow the example of Christ and that which His disciples followed where it is, "not my will, but the Will of God be done". That's why I view the 'prosperity' gospel which teaches people to only follow the wealth aspect as antichrist, because it goes against the example given to us by Christ.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 8:43am On Mar 15, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
Anyone could claim to believe in the Will of God, but at the same time not be willing for the God's Will to be done in their lives whatever it may be as in the example Jesus gave to us, and that which the disciples followed, so that doesn't change anything. You have every right to chose how you want to follow God though. I have decided to follow the example of Christ and that which His disciples followed where it is, "not my will, but the Will of God be done". That's why I view the 'prosperity' gospel which teaches people to only follow the wealth aspect as antichrist, because it goes against the example given to us by Christ.
likewise anyone can claim to follow the examples/ways of Christ in words but in reality they just select some lifestyle of Christ and abandon the rest.. If God gave wealth to people like Job , David , Solomon etc who am I not acknowledge that the wealth given by God is good and he still gives out wealth. I still believe in the One that said , give and it shall be given unto you...
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by jesusjnr2020(m): 9:13am On Mar 15, 2023
SmellingAnus:
likewise anyone can claim to follow the examples/ways of Christ in words but in reality they just select some lifestyle of Christ and abandon the rest.. If God gave wealth to people like Job , David , Solomon etc who am I not acknowledge that the wealth given by God is good and he still gives out wealth. I still believe in the One that said , give and it shall be given unto you...
The Gospel of Christ in a nutshell is, "Not my will but God's Will be done" which encompasses everything, including poverty, wealth, suffering, persecutions, death etc., but the 'prosperity' gospel only preaches about money, wealth, riches, etc and against poverty, suffering, persecutions and death, which is clearly antichrist. No wonder the rise of covetousness, greed and corruption etc among Christians. Nobody wants to remain poor anymore even if they have to steal or kill to become rich because the 'prosperity' gospel has taught them it's a curse. Nobody wants to suffer for the sake of Christ because the 'prosperity' gospel has taught them they don't have to suffer as Christ followers. It has turned the church into a den of thieves, criminals, ritual killers, corrupt person, looters, among others. The 'prosperity' gospel has indeed been a curse to the church. It hasn't even made those who believe it more prosperous overall to prove it's nothing but a scam. That's why preachers of the gospel as Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar among others have come to realize overtime. I believe more would still come to this realization in time to come. The church didn't need the 'prosperity' gospel to prosper in the beginning. The Gospel of Christ which includes everything was more than enough for the church.
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by SmellingAnus(m): 10:41am On Mar 15, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
The Gospel of Christ in a nutshell is, "Not my will but God's Will be done" which encompasses everything, including poverty, wealth, suffering, persecutions, death etc., but the 'prosperity' gospel only preaches about money, wealth, riches, etc and against poverty, suffering, persecutions and death, which is clearly antichrist. No wonder the rise of covetousness, greed and corruption etc among Christians. Nobody wants to remain poor anymore even if they have to steal or kill to become rich because the 'prosperity' gospel has taught them it's a curse. Nobody wants to suffer for the sake of Christ because the 'prosperity' gospel has taught them they don't have to suffer as Christ followers. It has turned the church into a den of thieves, criminals, ritual killers, corrupt person, looters, among others. The 'prosperity' gospel has indeed been a curse to the church. It hasn't even made those who believe it more prosperous overall to prove it's nothing but a scam. That's why preachers of the gospel as Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar among others have come to realize overtime. I believe more would still come to this realization in time to come. The church didn't need the 'prosperity' gospel to prosper in the beginning. The Gospel of Christ which includes everything was more than enough for the church.
you are right the will of God includes wealth and others ..

As for the prosperity doctrine, from the beginning of this conversation I have maintained that many christians have been scammed through this ... Preaching prosperity is very important but how it is preached by some of the religious leaders is what I have problem against... I think you and I have a different interpretation of the prosperity doctrine you are talking about...
Re: Paying For Prayer: I Went Into Debt, Trying To Secure A Miracle by UgoFly: 1:01pm On Mar 15, 2023
jesusjnr2020:
The Gospel of Christ in a nutshell is, "Not my will but God's Will be done" which encompasses everything, including poverty, wealth, suffering, persecutions, death etc., but the 'prosperity' gospel only preaches about money, wealth, riches, etc and against poverty, suffering, persecutions and death, which is clearly antichrist. No wonder the rise of covetousness, greed and corruption etc among Christians. Nobody wants to remain poor anymore even if they have to steal or kill to become rich because the 'prosperity' gospel has taught them it's a curse. Nobody wants to suffer for the sake of Christ because the 'prosperity' gospel has taught them they don't have to suffer as Christ followers. It has turned the church into a den of thieves, criminals, ritual killers, corrupt person, looters, among others. The 'prosperity' gospel has indeed been a curse to the church. It hasn't even made those who believe it more prosperous overall to prove it's nothing but a scam. That's why preachers of the gospel as Benny Hinn, Creflo Dollar among others have come to realize overtime. I believe more would still come to this realization in time to come. The church didn't need the 'prosperity' gospel to prosper in the beginning. The Gospel of Christ which includes everything was more than enough for the church.

How do you then interpret this scripture

"..he was made poor so we could become rich" in 2 Cor 8:9🥺

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