IyaebeTheGreat:
if some of you meet me physically you'll lose your self esteem, I'm just playing with you people here. Enjoy the privilege of a faceless forum

Madam abeg go and sit down. Even if you be Rishi Sunak or Joe Biden, we go still blast you if you dey wrong.

PureFace1:



It happened in the United State not Nigeria

In US the law enforcement agencies can seize your asset without filing criminal charges against you.

If it was truly the case of civil forfeiture in the United State without the law enforcement agency charging him for any crime then it mean the case would be thrown out of court because he wasn't charged for any crime in the first place. This is 80% likely what is going to happen .

US state of Chicago where Tinubu committed the crime says hello to you via the link below:


https://www.srhunterlaw.com/Drug-Crime-Penalties-in-Illinois

franchasofficia:
US state of Chicago where Tinubu committed the crime says hello to you via the link below:


https://www.srhunterlaw.com/Drug-Crime-Penalties-in-Illinois

You still don't get it

There are at least 3 type of forfeiture in the US

I'm sure the one that most likely happened to Tinubu was civil forfeiture.

If he was truly charge for drug dealing in the US there is no way he would be able to avoid jail term or just lost half of his confiscated money. The total money affected was 1.4 million but he lost just 460k and they released the rest.

You think the US will let a guilty drug dealer get away with most of his money after they freezed his account and confiscated it ?

AstroG:



Taa,Shutup🙄. See this product of local and unplanned hookup talking, werey dy disguise

jeez

Faber:


Okay, now that he is the CJN, his definition of forefeiture will change abi? I thought you were only useless before, I never knew you no get brain join...wetin full your head na used baby diapers



I no want slap you, na waste of slap. The slap way I get now, are reserved for IyaebeTheGreat and other shameless, hopeless, homeless and broke urchins

. Ara agbala Faber: fatality

nonhuman:
in tinubu case what's applicable is crime

It's a civil defence!

Bashet:
Breach of obligation or neglect of duty.

It's not about crime. It can be civil offence

Ok, if you are saying that forfeiture in Tinubu's case does not relate to crime, then tell us the civil obligation he breach or the civil duty he neglected so as to make the forfeiture civil related and not criminal related.

Okay, we don hear oh.

IyaebeTheGreat:
if some of you meet me physically you'll lose your self esteem, I'm just playing with you people here. Enjoy the privilege of a faceless forum

I understand the sentiment but
You rather diminish your self by saying this
It does not enhance you in any way.

Preserve that anonymity and restrain egotism no matter the provocation that is the real strength

ganisucks:
ABACHA v. FRN (2014) LPELR-22014(SC)



https://twitter.com/OkpakoFergus/status/1639090981487226883

What does this tell us that is new?What we have not already heard

By the way Ariwoola did not define. Forfeiture

That is untrue
He reproduced verbatim with citation an already existing legal dictionary definition
There is nothing new.
One cannot establish working backward that there was a conviction because there was a forfeiture
One has to establish what the conviction was for.
Forfeiture can happen between individuals and or businesses in every day transactions.

If you leave your suitcase unattended at the airport or some public places it is liable to be removed a d destroyed
Same with parking your car on private land
If you buy land and don't develop you may forfeit it
Recently Bayelsa state forfeited oil wells to Rivers state and so on

fernandez1:
U be propagandist was he the CJN then….. una go still lule with this nonsense again and again!

So, his definition of the term will automatically change now that his the CJN?
Or are you saying he wasn't qualified to preside over the case then in 2014??
Nawaoo!

You guys are just horrible creatures!

Unfortunately, you all still expect the country to prosper with this kind of mentality.

PureFace1:
It happened in United state not Nigeria

Law enforcement agencies can seize your asset in the US without officially filing criminal charges against you

Did the US authorities specifically label it 'Civil forfeiture'?
Abi na you classify the case for them?

NICENEDU29:
Ok, if you are saying that forfeiture in Tinubu's case does not relate to crime, then tell us the civil obligation he breach or the civil duty he neglected so as to make the forfeiture civil related and not criminal related.

He does not have to provide any explanation
Those who say otherwise have to prove what they say

There is no duty to prove innocence that is The default presumption

ChybuzzDD:


Did the US authorities specifically label it 'Civil forfeiture'?
Abi na you classify the case for them?

There cannot be a criminal forfeiture without a conviction
https://www.justice.gov/afms/types-federal-forfeiture

IyaebeTheGreat:
if some of you meet me physically you'll lose your self esteem, I'm just playing with you people here. Enjoy the privilege of a faceless forum

So Madam, who are you?

ManOfMan:


So Madam, who are you?

Mary, mother of Jesus?

ChybuzzDD:


Did the US authorities specifically label it 'Civil forfeiture'?
Abi na you classify the case for them?

There cannot be a criminal forfeiture without a conviction
https://www.justice.gov/afms/types-federal-forfeiture
Forfeiture is part of a sentence and the offence is explicit
What is the offence

Every offence has a name and code
E.g in Nigeria 419 obtaining by deception

Urchins have now acknowledge THEIR DRUG KING-PIN IS AN EX-CONVICT!
They have now switched mouths to 'it was over 10 years ago'!
Hiaaaaaaaaaaaaaahn!

CONVICT NA CONVICT.
We DO NOT WANT!
Period.

Na abuse be una motto……. Una go lule for Supreme Court….. fake news peddlers!

Faber:


Okay, now that he is the CJN, his definition of forefeiture will change abi? I thought you were only useless before, I never knew you no get brain join...wetin full your head na used baby diapers



I no want slap you, na waste of slap. The slap way I get now, are reserved for IyaebeTheGreat and other shameless, hopeless, homeless and broke urchins

Bashet:
Breach of obligation or neglect of duty.

It's not about crime. It can be civil offence

if you breach the terms and condition of a contract, can u be charged to court ?

if your negligence of your duty results to loss of lives and properties, can the person be equally be charged for such crime ?

PureFace1:
It happened in United state not Nigeria

Law enforcement agencies can seize your asset in the US without officially filing criminal charges against you

Even in Nigeria there have been forfeitures without conviction e.g
Dieziani Allison
Patience Jonathan
Ekweremadu
And so many others

The reason is simple to secure a conviction you need to prove
BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT
To secure forfeiture for suspected proceeds of crime you need to prove that
ON BALANCE OF PROBABILITY
The assets are likely to be proceeds of crime
And the holder may be required to prove how he got the money
It is easier to get a forfeiture than a conviction

Just go to Google
Type

EFCC Asset forfeiture

Google is a decoration if you don't know how to use it

Bashet:


It's a civil defence!

crime is crime

nonhuman:
crime is crime

Crime involves getting arrested and convicted! Tinubu was never!

Yam is yam

Bashet:



Crime involves getting arrested and convicted! Tinubu was never!

Arrested?
Not necessarily especially for offences where the penalty is a fine of where there is a plea bargain

omonnakoda:
Arrested?
Not necessarily especially for offences where the penalty is a fine of where there is a plea bargain

I know. But in most cases (if not all) where the defendants were convicted, they were previously arrested.

Tinubu was never arrested, let alone convicted. So how did he commit a crime?

Bashet:


Crime involves getting arrested and convicted! Tinubu was never!

he was arrested and convicted and the penalty was forefiture of 460k dollars

nonhuman:
he was arrested and convicted and the penalty was forefiture of 460k dollars

Says an Ipob brain. Provide evidence of his arrest or shut your hole

Obidients are digging out a lot buried truth