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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 6:44am On Mar 30, 2023
Emmy450:
An example is SAKA,. Close your eyes
and Imaginee if saka grew up from the street of Lagos, delta, abambra etc,. Do you think the level of football knowledge he has from the street would in anyway be of same level of that of an arsenal academy ?

Exactly

Street football is a hit and miss style to learning football

It's not comprehensive neither is it taught by experts. One just learns on the fly and pucka up bad habits -whether good or bad

For example, Chuks excessive dribbling is a street mentality. Same with Simon moses too

If our wingers were properly taught in a well funded academy, their decision making will be better. Just look at Vic Moses, Osayi Damuel and the likes

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by COOL10(m): 6:54am On Mar 30, 2023
Kog45:
Oga cool,Segun Odegbami 47 games 22 goals has better record and do not forget Emma Amuneke 27 games 9 goals but notwithstanding Victor Moses remains the best Nigeria winger of recent times and really surprising seeing our wingers lacking basic.



When looking at stats, I'm always wary of Wikipedia, because it can be edited. From a more reputable source(TM), Emmanuel Amunike played 39 games and scored just 8 goals.


Nevertheless, I'm glad you compared him(Victor Moses) with people most Nigerians would consider as legends of Nigerian football and not Simon or Chukwueze.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 8:12am On Mar 30, 2023
gatecrash123:
A very good development
fingers crossed.. let's see how it goes..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:13am On Mar 30, 2023
fabyom:
You know they will be blacklisted and might not be able to secure a job anymore. The other option is more secure.

And that is how the rot continues to spread....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:13am On Mar 30, 2023
Blueelf:


Exactly

Street football is a hit and miss style to learning football

It's not comprehensive neither is it taught by experts. One just learns on the fly and pucka up bad habits -whether good or bad

For example, Chuks excessive dribbling is a street mentality. Same with Simon moses too

If our wingers were properly taught in a well funded academy, their decision making will be better. Just look at Vic Moses, Osayi Damuel and the likes

Who is a prime example of a well funded academy in Nigeria

Who’s the product ?

You must be smoking some cheap a$$ weed

Street beats academy anytime of the day

When i mean street do you think these boys that play monkey post with empty legs ??
You freaking clown

I mean these local owned teams
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 8:15am On Mar 30, 2023
gatecrash123:
A very good development

I don't really understand... Is this different from the NPFL super 6 that suooosed to take place after the conclusion of the abridged league or is this the Nigerian version of the MTN super 8 held in South Africa? 🤔
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:16am On Mar 30, 2023
COOL10:




When looking at stats, I'm always wary of Wikipedia, because it can be edited. From a more reputable source(TM), Emmanuel Amunike played 39 games and scored just 8 goals.


Nevertheless, I'm glad you compared him(Victor Moses) with people most Nigerians would consider as legends of Nigerian football and not Simon or Chukwueze.
Emma Amuneke 39 games?transfer market error.He has three good years with eagles and other years were full of injuries.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 8:18am On Mar 30, 2023
gatecrash123:
If it is by geo political zone, my picks are as follows
South West - remo stars vs shooting stars
South East - enyimba vs rangers
South south - rivers utd vs akwa united
North East - El kanemi vs gombe
North West - kano pillars vs katsina utd
North Central - plateau utd vs kwara utd

Bendel insurance will definitely be among the two seeded teams
north Central should be plateau utd vs lobi stars.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 8:20am On Mar 30, 2023
do4luv14:
If naija football no waka, blame it on one man

if SE no fly, blame it on one man,

if Musa get Belle blame it on one man

if naija football fall yakata for ground blame it on one man,

If anything hapun to naija football , heck..... blame it on one man,

Seems that one man runs a sole proprietorship with naija football😁😁😁
nobody blamed it solely o him, but be honest with yourself, he is a major factor in this shambles we are currently in
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 8:26am On Mar 30, 2023
Danielnino00:


I don't really understand... Is this different from the NPFL super 6 that suooosed to take place after the conclusion of the abridged league or is this the Nigerian version of the MTN super 8 held in South Africa? 🤔

It's the former.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 8:30am On Mar 30, 2023
typicalgamer:


Is there an arsenal academy in Lagos ??

The Npfl players aren’t fully fledged players

But you expect the academy players to be godlike tier
🤡 😂 you humor me

Streets beats academy every time with basic training or not
hot trash!! Your itchy fingers to reply made you disgrace yourself,. A street kid in Lagos cannot in anyway be compared to An academy player in Europe , get that into your empty skull
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 8:33am On Mar 30, 2023
typicalgamer:


There’s no wide margin skill gap between a street kid and an academy kid in Nigeria 🇳🇬
Get that into your skull or get the f*ck out of town.

The difference between a local soccer player and your Npfl player is fitness level
Skill wise they’re all the same
another trash!! So in your retarded mind I was talking about skills?? 😂😂😂, So basic football knowledge are now skills? 😂😂😂 Such a dummy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:33am On Mar 30, 2023
Blueelf:


Exactly

Street football is a hit and miss style to learning football

It's not comprehensive neither is it taught by experts. One just learns on the fly and pucka up bad habits -whether good or bad

For example, Chuks excessive dribbling is a street mentality. Same with Simon moses too

If our wingers were properly taught in a well funded academy, their decision making will be better. Just look at Vic Moses, Osayi Damuel and the likes
Finidi George na street o and understand the game wella.I disagree that Chuckwueze and Simon excessive dribbling was due to street mentality....Emma Olisadebe was damn street footballer who played jeun jeun football in the streets of Ilorin but within two years he led Poland to World Cup.Sunday Johnson was a street footballer in Kaduna but came down to Ilorin and in a year made Nigeria Sydney 2000 Olympic team as only outfield player.Injury failed him during Ajax trial.Emma and Sunday are friends who didn’t have any academy training but are solid footballers with sense of modern football....Street or no street,footballing mentality is in built and left for individual to harness his potential to the fullest.Remeber Simon Moses was unplayable during 2008 WC qualifiers.

I agreed academy harness and bring good quality in a player with basic things but notwithstanding we still have guys out there who are real crosser of the ball and highly intelligent....a young chap told me Olosunsun playing ground shaped Osimehn

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 8:36am On Mar 30, 2023
typicalgamer:


Answer this question if there were to held an open trial for academy spots and Npfl spots

Do you think all the academy players will retain their spots by the end of the trials

Or all the Npfl players will retain their spots

Don’t fool yourself go and sit down
what are you even saying gees!!!!! Okay what point are you trying to make? Man don't coat me with such gibberish again....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:41am On Mar 30, 2023
Emmy450:
what are you even saying gees!!!!! Okay what point are you trying to make? Man don't coat me with such gibberish again....

Who’s the great product that our academy has produced and that said player played almost equivalent to his European opposite number

You just open your wahhhhh and be talking

Super eagles from day zero has no play style not long ball not tiki taka not pressing and you expect academy to produce the next saka 🤡
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:43am On Mar 30, 2023
Emmy450:
another trash!! So in your retarded mind I was talking about skills?? 😂😂😂, So basic football knowledge are now skills? 😂😂😂 Such a dummy

Guinea ain’t got no skill but they locked down the most inform striker on the planet

They locked down so called god tier wingers

You’re delusional and retarded if you think academy is. Where the best players are

Keep picking academy players see you at u23 Olympics 🤡
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:45am On Mar 30, 2023
Emmy450:
hot trash!! Your itchy fingers to reply made you disgrace yourself,. A street kid in Lagos cannot in anyway be compared to An academy player in Europe , get that into your empty skull

You illiterate Bleep, nonentity of the highest order
Delusional creep of a faggoted redbone

I simply asked is there an arsenal academy in Lagos ??
How can you produce the next saka when you don’t have an academy like that of arsenal in Nigeria ??

Keep advocating foolishness
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:47am On Mar 30, 2023
Kog45:
Finidi George na street o and understand the game wella.I disagree that Chuckwueze and Simon excessive dribbling was due to street mentality....Emma Olisadebe was damn street footballer who played jeun jeun football in the streets of Ilorin but within two years he led Poland to World Cup.Sunday Johnson was a street footballer in Kaduna but came down to Ilorin and in a year made Nigeria Sydney 2000 Olympic team as only outfield player.Injury failed him during Ajax trial.Emma and Sunday are friends who didn’t have any academy training but are solid footballers with sense of modern football....Street or no street,footballing mentality is in built and left for individual to harness his potential to the fullest.Remeber Simon Moses was unplayable during 2008 WC qualifiers.

I agreed academy harness and bring good quality in a player with basic things but notwithstanding we still have guys out there who are real crosser of the ball and highly intelligent....a young chap told me Olosunsun playing ground shaped Osimehn

I’m beating my chest drop an open trials from the u23 to u17

And you’ll notice that 70% of the players won’t retain their positions

Nigeria when every f*cking body sabi play ball na some guys here they talk rubbish

Super eagles that play like Sunday league team 😂 nobody talk go there

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 8:48am On Mar 30, 2023
kennysville:


Lemme ask you in return. How much scouting has been done? How did we arrive at such a conclusion that our own kids only have the least basic skill only all because of academy training. Let's take an Arsenal academy for example. How many of those supposed kids made it to the big leagues? How many are still relevant? Football has changed. Yes but to be debating our own talents because they lack exposure to facilities is not enough. As i mentioned earlier in a few posts back, what have the supposed exposed ones in the eagles offered? We can even hardly tell a discernible pattern in our play which only lends credence to the narrative that our wards lack the basics. Truth is if we did the appropriate scouting you will get natural skilful players and won't be looking for supposed finished article from England who don't share our football passion or culture. Take it or leave it, the earlier we stick to our identity as Africans and stop this copy copy attitude of anything foreign is the best. They have so tailored the game to work for them Including refereeing.

While I have nothing against the modern game, our identity is who we are which we are fast losing because we want to supposedly comply with modern football. Now we lose at home and say to ourselves there are no minnows anymore. It is that mentality that we need to stamp out. What I hate the most is knowing the cause of a problem and continue papering the cracks and hoping things get better. Small success vs going back to the first principle.

I cam go on and on but alas, we all don't see it the same way.
once again good points.. but I'm not talking about skills or how to dribble pass a player, those are talents and they are all over the street in Nigeria, we have a large pool of talented young footballers scattered in every area in Nigeria, even in farthest part of the north, but my point is a child in the street doesn't know the basics of football like a perfect "one two" passes, diagonal play, positional awareness etc. All this are learnt from academies or proper football team not on the street my bro..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 8:50am On Mar 30, 2023
Attention...Emmy450 and typicalgamer .. remember your comments are for us to learn and makes contributions for general discourse but you guys turned it to nagging...Pls let’s always showing respect for ourselves here abeg una let it slides.One ❤️

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 8:51am On Mar 30, 2023
Blueelf:


Exactly

Street football is a hit and miss style to learning football

It's not comprehensive neither is it taught by experts. One just learns on the fly and pucka up bad habits -whether good or bad

For example, Chuks excessive dribbling is a street mentality. Same with Simon moses too

If our wingers were properly taught in a well funded academy, their decision making will be better. Just look at Vic Moses, Osayi Damuel and the likes
thank you, they think football is all about dribbling while neglecting all other aspects.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 9:00am On Mar 30, 2023
Blueelf:


Exactly

Street football is a hit and miss style to learning football

It's not comprehensive neither is it taught by experts. One just learns on the fly and pucka up bad habits -whether good or bad

For example, Chuks excessive dribbling is a street mentality. Same with Simon moses too

If our wingers were properly taught in a well funded academy, their decision making will be better. Just look at Vic Moses, Osayi Damuel and the likes
we just saw how osimhen a "word class player" was caught offside several times, largely because of
uncalculated passes from chukweze and
zaidu(ball speed didn't match his pace) this was corrected in Napoli were the players know when to release the ball(time his runs), but also positionalll awareness of osimhen was bad that day.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gatecrash123: 9:08am On Mar 30, 2023
Danielnino00:


I don't really understand... Is this different from the NPFL super 6 that suooosed to take place after the conclusion of the abridged league or is this the Nigerian version of the MTN super 8 held in South Africa? 🤔
no its not, it's a preseason tournament just like the dozy mmuobosi tourney that was played b4 the commencement of the current season
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 9:08am On Mar 30, 2023
Emmy450:
we just saw how osimhen a "word class player" was caught offside several times, largely because of
uncalculated passes from chukweze and
zaidu(ball speed didn't match his pace) this was corrected in Napoli were the players know when to release the ball(time his runs), but also positionalll awareness of osimhen was bad that day.
Sir I enjoy your analysis but I disagree on Osimehn offsides positions even in Napoli it happens especially last season....I don’t want us to go too far on street or academy cuz it’s known facts that academy players would be more basic than street footballers but do you know that we have many academy players in top clubs that are not different from Chuckwueze and Zaidu.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gatecrash123: 9:10am On Mar 30, 2023
Emmy450:
north Central should be plateau utd vs lobi stars.
I feel kwara utd have been more consistent than lobi in last few years. All in all it's the fans votes that counts

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 9:13am On Mar 30, 2023
typicalgamer:


Guinea ain’t got no skill but they locked down the most inform striker on the planet

They locked down so called god tier wingers

You’re delusional and retarded if you think academy is. Where the best players are

Keep picking academy players see you at u23 Olympics 🤡
now I know I have been wasting my Time with you.. they give you washed up European players who couldn't cut it in Europe and you expect them to play well in Africa, where everybody does jamboree football? Such a clown.. time wasted with you..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gatecrash123: 9:15am On Mar 30, 2023
owbabs:


Another one not well thought out. Can Nigerian pitch hold that many matches in a short space of time.

A club in Tanzania will still beat the winner of the tournament in a 2 legged fixture
onikan can but as for uyo, with proper care during the tournament, it can. Btw only 6 games will be played in uyo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 9:16am On Mar 30, 2023
typicalgamer:


You illiterate Bleep, nonentity of the highest order
Delusional creep of a faggoted redbone

I simply asked is there an arsenal academy in Lagos ??
How can you produce the next saka when you don’t have an academy like that of arsenal in Nigeria ??

Keep advocating foolishness
😂😂😂😂 I don't blame you, you can't grasp the most basic things, how won't you ask such silly questions ... You like tagging people as clowns, but we all know you're the biggest clown in the room 😂😂😂😂😂
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 9:18am On Mar 30, 2023
Kog45:
Attention...Emmy450 and typicalgamer .. remember your comments are for us to learn and makes contributions for general discourse but you guys turned it to nagging...Pls let’s always showing respect for ourselves here abeg una let it slides.One ❤️
so sorry sir,.. got carried away. Nevertheless wasn't the one who brought insults into civil discuss.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:20am On Mar 30, 2023
Kog45:
Attention...Emmy450 and typicalgamer .. remember your comments are for us to learn and makes contributions for general discourse but you guys turned it to nagging...Pls let’s always showing respect for ourselves here abeg una let it slides.One ❤️

Bro One love 💕

Who be that person when say fight never burst out for like for days now self 😂

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Emmy450(m): 9:22am On Mar 30, 2023
Kog45:
Sir I enjoy your analysis but I disagree on Osimehn offsides positions even in Napoli it happens especially last season....I don’t want us to go too far on street or academy cuz it’s known facts that academy players would be more basic than street footballers but do you know that we have many academy players in top clubs that are not different from Chuckwueze and Zaidu.
lols true sir. In every class we have the brilliant, average and the dull students,.same as those academies, what you just pointed out are the dull ones
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 9:24am On Mar 30, 2023
Emmy450:
once again good points.. but I'm not talking about skills or how to dribble pass a player, those are talents and they are all over the street in Nigeria, we have a large pool of talented young footballers scattered in every area in Nigeria, even in farthest part of the north, but my point is a child in the street doesn't know the basics of football like a perfect "one two" passes, diagonal play, positional awareness etc. All this are learnt from academies or proper football team not on the street my bro..

I strongly disagree sir I strongly disagree again no insults

But we all watch soccer on tv ? Right we all have smartphones computers to do our own research 🔬 and understanding.

I’m still standing by this your above statement can’t be far from the truth.

My elder bro no enter university anyday but he’s an expert coder and computer programmer. Self taught

My point is that all what they’ll teach you in an academy is already out there for you to learn yourself

The difference between academy and street is opportunity.

Skill wise none is superior no matter the training

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