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popizaino:



So list the other coaches that have built dynasty with real Madrid let see?

To answer your question, Vicente del Bosque, and Miguel Muñoz are two popular names and they did achieve a lot with the Whites.

Imo, poch and Enrique are the best options..
People are quick to judge Enrique with his Roma days as if pep can even do something with Roma
Enrique's good celta performance earned him the barca job...

FirstbornWds:


That piece you quoted also encompasses me writing that even Madrid weren't going to offer that.

But then, there was no way Zidane was going to build a dynasty in Madrid. He isn't that kind of coach to achieve with a long term plan, and equally, Madrid with all of its ambition was definitely not gonna offer that.

The bolded are not my words but yours,the statement is pretty clear now tell us the kind of coaches to achieve a long term with real madrid......simple!

Melvyn11:


Zidane is a mid coach but Enrique is world class. Every and anything related to Barcelona is always the best thing since slice bread. I don't know why you guys still bother with those people.

He quoted me, Please show me where I said zidane was a mid coach ?

I said he do selects the job he wants and that’s it ,so that means I said he is a mid coach ?

I said zidane selects his job and there is nothing wrong about what I said ,some people also accuse pep for that ,if una too carry the matter for head na una sabi

FirstbornWds:
Whoever rates Enrique above Zidane is either mad or just bantering.

But Pep... Nah.. He is not his mate, by a long stretch.

Leave that one wey lack comprehension because emotions don cover am

Saying zidane selects his job doesn’t mean Enrique is better than him

Pep can be accused for selecting job ,but dem hear zidane name dem begin cry

EmmanuelScott1:


Boehly should respect himself and find a good coach that will manage Chelsea. Chelsea is not an experimental club, where you come and do try and luck (we have passed that).

Nagelsman and that Ruben guy are mid coach like potter, they're on the same grade. He can't even dominate Bundesliga with Bayern, I wonder what magic he will do with us. I will even prefer conte than sign those 3cbs mid coaches.

Right now, Pochettino and zidane remains the best option with a good C.V, he should go for them.

Nagelsman and Ruben Almiron of Sporting are not mid coaches. I will take Nagelsman over any options currently available. Anybody recommending Pochettino and an inept Enrique are enemies of the club.

popizaino:



I also agree with everything but Zidane being a mid coach is a No No fot me.

Opinions. But then, it's best to explain my stance to offer better insight.

Zidane has achieved a great deal of success during his time at Madrid but there are some disadvantages to his game.

Firstly, Zidane has not had the opportunity to develop his own style of play and tactical approach in the way that some more experienced coaches have. While he has been successful in adapting his tactics to different opponents and situations, it's fair to say that he hasn't had the chance to experiment with different systems and styles of play in the way that some other coaches have.

Also, Zidane has had the benefit of working with some incredibly talented players during his time at Real Madrid, which has undoubtedly helped him to achieve success. While he deserves credit for getting the best out of those players and creating a winning culture at the club, it's fair to say that he hasn't faced the same challenges as some other coaches who have had to work with less talented squads, even with a fat check, as some of you choose to call Pep.

Also, Zidane has also been criticized for his handling of certain situations, such as his reluctance to rotate his squad or give opportunities to younger players. While he has been successful in managing the egos of some of the biggest stars in world football, he has also been accused of being too conservative and relying too heavily on his established players.

andrew444:


He quoted me, Please show me where I said zidane was a mid coach ?

I said he do selects the job he wants and that’s it ,so that means I said he is a mid coach ?

I said zidane selects his job and there is nothing wrong about what I said ,some people also accuse pep for that ,if una too carry the matter for head na una sabi

You didn't see where your fellow colleague called Zidane a mid coach right?

FirstbornWds:


To answer your question, Vicente del Bosque, and Miguel Muñoz are two popular names and they did achieve a lot with the Whites.

Aside,the fact that Zidane achieved much more than Vincete Del bosque with this real Madrid, how is his 4years an evident of long term plans with real madrid?

airmark:


Pls don't let thunder fire you o.

Oga airmark, I no dey for unah agenda oo

But which coach you prefer?

Melvyn11:

You didn't see where your fellow colleague called Zidane a mid coach right?

Zidane is a world class coach

A mid coach won’t win 2 ucl with Madrid ,let alone 3

Capaldi:

Nagelsman and Ruben Almiron of Sporting are not mid coaches. I will take Nagelsman over any options currently available. Anybody recommending Pochettino and an inept Enrique are enemies of the club.

You are a big joke .

popizaino:



Aside,the fact that Zidane achieved much more than Vincete Del bosque with this real Madrid, how is his 4years an evident of long term plans with real madrid?

Stability is one of the hallmarks of a long-term plan but Zidane's time at Real Madrid was marked by a degree of instability. He resigned as coach at the end of his first spell, citing the need for "a different voice" in the dressing room, before returning to the club less than a year later. He then resigned again at the end of his second spell, citing a need for "a change for the good of everyone" and the club not listening to him as he said "Perez didn't trust him enough."

Simply put, he didnt represent a long term solution for the club as his coaching philosophy was largely built around getting the best out of the club's existing players, rather than developing young talent or building for the future.

FirstbornWds:


Opinions. But then, it's best to explain my stance to offer better insight.

Zidane has achieved a great deal of success during his time at Madrid but there are some disadvantages to his game.

Firstly, Zidane has not had the opportunity to develop his own style of play and tactical approach in the way that some more experienced coaches have. While he has been successful in adapting his tactics to different opponents and situations, it's fair to say that he hasn't had the chance to experiment with different systems and styles of play in the way that some other coaches have.

Also, Zidane has had the benefit of working with some incredibly talented players during his time at Real Madrid, which has undoubtedly helped him to achieve success. While he deserves credit for getting the best out of those players and creating a winning culture at the club, it's fair to say that he hasn't faced the same challenges as some other coaches who have had to work with less talented squads, even with a fat check, as some of you choose to call Pep.

Also, Zidane has also been criticized for his handling of certain situations, such as his reluctance to rotate his squad or give opportunities to younger players. While he has been successful in managing the egos of some of the biggest stars in world football, he has also been accused of being too conservative and relying too heavily on his established players.

There's no meaning to your first paragraph. Everybody doesn't have to be Pep with horizonal and vertical tactical innovation and other gibberish of modern football. The best Tactics is adapting to the players you have and playing to their strength while winning.


I have never seen you discredit Pep by saying he has worked with talented players all through his career. How exactly is that a disadvantage for Zidane but an advantage for Pep.

andrew444:


Leave that one wey lack comprehension because emotions don cover am

Saying zidane selects his job doesn’t mean Enrique is better than him

Pep can be accused for selecting job ,but dem hear zidane name dem begin cry

Gradually, Pep is becoming the standard for those seeking for long-term solutions for their club whilst competing for every title.

Capaldi:

Nagelsman and Ruben Almiron of Sporting are not mid coaches. I will take Nagelsman over any options currently available. Anybody recommending Pochettino and an inept Enrique are enemies of the club.

Why did you say they're not mid coach? Their C.V is not top notch, new into coaching, managing club in Bundesliga and Portuguese is different from Epl, they're using the same formation (3cbs). If we really want 3cbs coach, conte is better deal than both.
I don't fancy Enrique because MSN made him look good, Pochettino is better.

Ibime:


Both Enrique and Nagelsmann have major question marks

Hoffenheim and Leipzig are clubs with conveyor belts of players going to higher destinations and strong technical directorship. Nagelsmann failed at handling big players in his first big club, Bayern. Players have been fighting him at Bayern since his first month. Come to Chelsea where players are sitting on 7 year fúck-you money contracts and you will see player power in action

Enrique was a scrub in Roma who got lucky with MSN and has done nothing since. He has a strong face that is not welcoming to anyone under his reporting line and a nasty dictatorial attitude. He is like the Spanish Roy Keane in the way he relates to people

Pochettino remains the best of the feasible options

poch failed in psg

Melvyn11:


There's no meaning to your first paragraph. Everybody doesn't have to be Pep with horizonal and vertical tactical innovation and other gibberish of modern football. The best Tactics is adapting to the players you have and playing to their strength while winning.


I have never seen you discredit Pep by saying he has worked with talented players all through his career. How exactly is that a disadvantage for Zidane but an advantage for Pep.

Simple answer. Pep has developed talents, even the yet unknown ones to become world-class players whereas Zidane hasn't managed to do that. Whatever I said about tactics is just for reference sake so you can do whatever you like with it.

Android17:
Zidane's wife does not want to live in England and Zidane's English is not good.

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EmmanuelScott1:


Oga airmark, I no dey for unah agenda oo

But which coach you prefer?

Conte or Enrique.

Ibime:


What's wrong with Pochettino

Tuchel already told you that managing PSG is not a coaching job but a political diplomat job. No coach can implement their tactical vision with a strolling front 3. I'm not rating anyone based on coaching PSG

Poch did very well in Spurs

Can he actually take us beyond the finishing line? Nigga lost many finals in Tottenham.

FirstbornWds:


Opinions. But then, it's best to explain my stance to offer better insight.

Zidane has achieved a great deal of success during his time at Madrid but there are some disadvantages to his game.
[quote author=FirstbornWds post=122266166]
Firstly, Zidane has not had the opportunity to develop his own style of play and tactical approach in the way that some more experienced coaches have. While he has been successful in adapting his tactics to different opponents and situations, it's fair to say that he hasn't had the chance to experiment with different systems and styles of play in the way that some other coaches have.

Pep Guardiola cemented his world class status with Barcelona, never had the chance to experiment with different systems and style of play in the way that some other coaches have,so why setting a different standard with Zidane?

FirstbornWds:

Also, Zidane has had the benefit of working with some incredibly talented players during his time at Real Madrid, which has undoubtedly helped him to achieve success. While he deserves credit for getting the best out of those players and creating a winning culture at the club, it's fair to say that he hasn't faced the same challenges as some other coaches who have had to work with less talented squads, even with a fat check, as some of you choose to call Pep.

Think pep Guardiola at Barcelona again.

FirstbornWds:

Also, Zidane has also been criticized for his handling of certain situations, such as his reluctance to rotate his squad or give opportunities to younger players. While he has been successful in managing the egos of some of the biggest stars in world football, he has also been accused of being too conservative and relying too heavily on his established players.

This is no point. You do what makes you win,if his reluctance to rotation was why he won the UCL back to back to back with real Madrid, then i don't see why this should be criticised.

Greatihex:
Can he actually take us beyond the finishing line? Nigga lost many finals in Tottenham.

Who won finals with Tottenham?

Greatihex:
poch failed in psg

Who excelled with PSG?

airmark:


Conte or Enrique.

With Conte we just have to kiss the UCL goodbye for good.

airmark:


Conte or Enrique.

I prefer Conte than Enrique

Greatihex:
Can he actually take us beyond the finishing line? Nigga lost many finals in Tottenham.

But he won final in PSG right?

Tottenham is cursed, Mourinho was even trophless in that club.

popizaino:



With Conte we just have to kiss the UCL goodbye for good.

He will break that jinx one day, you know?

EmmanuelScott1:


I prefer Conte than Enrique

Yeah.

We have exciting wingers and wingbacks that Conte could bring the best out of them.

FBS:
Not the type to be happy when someone gets the sack but man, that was a horrible experience.

Lampard must be relieved now, the title of Chelsea's worst manage in history has just been passed on.

So, who is in-coming?

Lampard and worst? I don't agree. Lampard's first season can be used to forgive his second season.

airmark:


He will break that jinx one day, you know?

You should have broken the jinx by winning league with Tottenham first.