Theflint1:
Na the only thing wey dey these APC people head be this, after doctors who next? North Korea lite

liveLongNprospa:


Fix the country and people will stay.
It's not surprising that UK saw more than 200% increase in Nigerians after EndSars happened.

You cannot stop people from leaving.
Oya the politicians nko.. Why them nor stop themselves from going outside for treatment

liveLongNprospa:


Omo.. This is fvcked up guy.
So you want to keep people in the country by fire by force in a career that the FG has refused to take special interest.

Proper laziness

liveLongNprospa:


You say wetin??
Do you think we just get abroad and start practicing medicine... You think the job is just handed over to them because they finished uni in naija.

Why doesn't this apply to the IT sector too?
Abi you know the amount of brain drain occurring in banking IT departments?


Nothing about this is unfair at all

larride:
Those reps Dey craze on a steady sha.

The govt should just make University autonomous and make medical school autonomous. Let them charge the normal standard fees they should charge and let those schools use the money to develop their institutions.

All these talks of cheap university no cut ham.

Your opinion makes it worse, in my opinion

It means only those that can afford it, would attend medical school, and if i can afford it, I can definitely japa.

The problem with japa virus is that they are underpaid and not taken care of.

If the government makes it autonomous, can the same government pay them what they will earn equivalently in UK?

DissTroy:


Actually, Delta should be judged side by side with Akwa Ibom:

- About the population size.
- About the same federal allocations.

But 2.5 times larger than Akwa Ibom by landmass.
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I won't judge you still. No. You have done nothing to me.
Except for few skirmishes, my focus is on promoting my own state.

---
Why don't you like Obi? Forget his tribe or their rhetorics since after the elections; why don't you like him as a GCFR? He represents opportunities and more likely to bring in fresh hands.

Aren't you tired of the old hands who've almost run us to the ground? Why don't you want someone who manages public finances relatively well? Why isn't Obi a catch for you since we couldn't get Osinbajo?

izzou:


Fix the country in how many days? 60, 90 or 120?

As much as i understand why everybody needs to leave, i have also questioned why this has not bothered the government in a long while.

We just finish arguing about poverty. If all the doctors leave, who will attend to medical cases here?

Or has everyone that japaed ensured they carry all their relatives with them?

Something needs to be done.

I am not against anyone's progress oh, but in all sincerity, something has to be done

izzou:


Your opinion makes it worse, in my opinion

It means only those that can afford it, would attend medical school, and if i can afford it, I can definitely japa.

The problem with japa virus is that they are underpaid and not taken care of.

If the government makes it autonomous, can the same government pay them what they will earn equivalently in UK?

Theflint1:
Same doctors they told to go and face farming if they're complaining of low wages and unemployment now decided to kuku leave the country, yet they no want make dem comot. They want to keep them in the country to work as farmers.

liveLongNprospa:


Lmaooo... You are not against anyone's progress but at the same time you are saying you understand..

So nor be fixing the country go solve am.
What has the government done for the medical profession to show how important they are?
What are the special incentives they've provided for them?

Nor be government officials dey brag since about how we churn out graduates each year or how they should go and face farming..

So again.. What should the medical practitioner do?

BlaqFaze:
Lol...you call poverty in Anambra political gimmick...why are they claiming people's land then...

If nor be poverty wey pursue dem...

You want to believe Shettima and El rufai but not Soludu

You also believed when someone said there's no agbero in Anambra was there any stat backing that?

Selecting what to believe like someone selecting fresh bread

seankafor:
delta is the den of yahoo in the whole of the southern states..

Those guys no come play at all

Itsrm:


You seriously can't compare the medical doctors and IT professionals. The absence of one directly leads to loss of lives, the other does not. One can be self taught or learnt in 6 months or less, the other requires several years to master.

The education they receive is seriously subsidised. Go and find out the cost of studying medicine in advanced countries. You can't even get admission to study medicine in some of the countries.

You can't get this training at no significant cost to you and the first thing you do after you qualify is fly to countries that will never have given you admission to study in the first place

The bill is a really good one. If you can't stay 5 years to give back, there are many other courses to study

47c3ee:


Your hatred for Igbos will eventually make you develop high BP soon.

It's very obvious your not doing well in your life, that's why another man's success day pain you.

izzou:


Your issue with the policy is the messenger, not the message..And i totally understand that.

Maybe you are Omo Baba Olowo, but many people that have japa have their families right here.

If their mama get blood pressure, e go still go the same Nigeria hospital wey no get doctor, abi?

My point is simple. Something needs to be done, whether we like it or not.

larride:


If their arguments on based on cheap university fees, doesn’t it make sense to remove the subsidy on the fees, let university charge the true fees they should charge and let the schools use the funds to run the schools properly.

The govt can then give scholarships and educational loans with conditions that you serve for a certain year before you can japa.

That way you solve 2 problems, ASUU and this doctors brain drain wahala

You ended up with their bill.

If you remove the subsidy, you'll have lesser people applying for Medical courses

And anybody that can pay the fees through medical school, can definitely jump on the next Delta flight to Atlanta.

So in the end, almost zero percent stays back.

The issue for a prospective japa doctor is that he is underpaid

The issue for the government is that they are not getting some loyalty for their subsidy.

larride:


If their arguments on based on cheap university fees, doesn’t it make sense to remove the subsidy on the fees, let university charge the true fees they should charge and let the schools use the funds to run the schools properly.

The govt can then give scholarships and educational loans with conditions that you serve for a certain year before you can japa.

That way you solve 2 problems, ASUU and this doctors brain drain wahala

liveLongNprospa:


What has to be done nau..
I have told you the reality of things from a medical personnel's perspective.

I am not a rich man but these guys cannot be forced to stay.. If they down tools today in protest nko.
Wetin you go them?

nihilistjnr:



Ermmmm

The survey, which sampled over 56,000 households across the 36 states of the Federation and the FCT, was conducted between November 2021 and February 2022, and provides multidimensional poverty estimates at senatorial district level.

Highlights of the 2022 Multidimensional Poverty Index survey reveal that:

63% of persons living within Nigeria (133 million people) are multidimensionally poor.
The National MPI is 0.257, indicating that poor people in Nigeria experience just over one-quarter of all possible deprivations.
65% of the poor (86 million people) live in the North, while 35% (nearly 47 million) live in the South.

Ermmmm

I mean they only sampled 56000 families. I'm not i see any facts here.

This is not to say I disagree with the argument that Nothern Nigerians are desperately poor, but I was interested in NBS's definition of the word "poor".

I'm not a statistician but their methodology seems pretty shoddy to me. How do you extrapolate data from sampling 56k families to apply to a population size in the hundreds of millions?

izzou:


That is why i said any government needs to be disturbed.

And that is what they are doing

BlueRayDick:


I once had a discussion around this on the chelsea thread . If I remember correctly we were arguing about unemployment figures and Larride brandished some NBS stats which I just could not agree with cos I know umployment rate is worse than what the NBS stats were saying .

Larride would have none of it and chose to stand by NBS stats favoring Bubu’s administration as (a party man na). So I called Ibime who is a number guy to reason with me based on say 800k sample size in a country of over 100m will never tell the full story.

Well, Ibime told me that the 800k simple size is okay for naija cos even UK unemployment rate is measured by random sampling of 100k adults and that’s it. I don’t know if Ibime was being politically correct in that discourse or he actually believes extrapolating data of 800k people can do justice to whole populace in a place like naija

BlaqFaze:
No cap... I'm from Isoko, I know how the thing be for Uzoro

Where boys dey ever ready to use their mama for yahoo

Segedinho:
These people will make it easy for a fierce revolution one day with their careless propositions and laws

liveLongNprospa:

Lmao they are holding people against their will.
They are not talking about proper compensation..
Better provision of working tools..

None of that.

So what happens if doctors down tools as a form of protest.

Who go lose?

DissTroy:


Actually, Delta should be judged side by side with Akwa Ibom:

- About the population size.
- About the same federal allocations.

But 2.5 times larger than Akwa Ibom by landmass.
----
I won't judge you still. No. You have done nothing to me.
Except for few skirmishes, my focus is on promoting my own state.

---
Why don't you like Obi? Forget his tribe or their rhetorics since after the elections; why don't you like him as a GCFR? He represents opportunities and more likely to bring in fresh hands.

Aren't you tired of the old hands who've almost run us to the ground? Why don't you want someone who manages public finances relatively well? Why isn't Obi a catch for you since we couldn't get Osinbajo?

izzou:


You ended up with their bill.

If you remove the subsidy, you'll have lesser people applying for Medical courses

And anybody that can pay the fees through medical school, can definitely jump on the next Delta flight to Atlanta.

So in the end, almost zero percent stays back.

The issue for a prospective japa doctor is that he is underpaid

The issue for the government is that they are not getting some loyalty for their subsidy.

larride:
Those reps Dey craze on a steady sha.

The govt should just make University autonomous and make medical school autonomous. Let them charge the normal standard fees they should charge and let those schools use the money to develop their institutions.

All these talks of cheap university no cut ham.

liveLongNprospa:


Everybody dey receive subsidised education from the FG Universities.
If the FG knew the profession was that important, then why have they not given them special attention ever since.

Was it not during covid19 pandemic that doctors complained of low hazard pay and these same politicians were hoarding palliatives.
I understand that you are looking out for yourself and people who go to clinic but oga doctor sef na human being and the amount of miracles our medical practitioners dey perform for this country with substandard tools means that they have more than earned the right to take their skills were they will be appreciated.

Omo