DeadPresidents:


You’re making a lot of sense.

This policy will be counterproductive. It’s actually going to precipitate japa movements because why are you trying to hold medical professionals down?

larride:


There are lots of private universities in Nigeria and a lot of people are attending those Universities.

I’m definitely sure that if subsidy is removed on public tertiary education, the amount still can’t compete with the private university. Uniosun that I attended is fairly run independent of Odin State Govt and they charge 95k per session while I was there (I don’t know if they have increased it).

Those that can’t afford the fees can apply for scholarships and education loans with those conditions applied.

I do agree that medical personnel wages, allowances and welfare should be prioritized as they are critical essential workers.

Itsrm:


Did they just realise their skills will not be appreciated after they finished from medical school and got their license?

They actually have an option ab initio, go to the countries where their skills will be appreciated to study medicine.

It's not after you study with taxpayers money you carry the knowledge away from the same taxpayers who need your service.

It's not like they are totally preventing them from travelling. 5 years is all we ask for.

BlueRayDick:


I once had a discussion around this on the chelsea thread . If I remember correctly we were arguing about unemployment figures and Larride brandished some NBS stats which I just could not agree with cos I know umployment rate is worse than what the NBS stats were saying .

Larride would have none of it and chose to stand by NBS stats favoring Bubu’s administration as (a party man na). So I called Ibime who is a number guy to reason with me based on say 800k sample size in a country of over 100m will never tell the full story.

Well, Ibime told me that the 800k simple size is okay for naija cos even UK unemployment rate is measured by random sampling of 100k adults and that’s it. I don’t know if Ibime was being politically correct in that discourse or he actually believes extrapolating data of 800k people can do justice to whole populace in a place like naija


Here is the link : https://www.nairaland.com/920248/official-chelsea-fan-thread-champions/8932#89818193

seankafor:
bro, university is not even supposed to be for everybody.. it's not even a criteria for success..

Most white people I talk to, most of them don't even go to university.. but the have jobs and some create jobs for themselves..

What a serious government should create is industrial training learning enablement..

Most people who go to university in Nigeria are there because they don't pretty have any other good choice or due to parental and societal pressure and coercion..

I think our university is very very over saturated.. if people who are meant to go to university are the ones there, I don't think we will be having all these half baked graduates that they keep churning out that can't even defend shiit..

izzou:


We are saying the same thing

Anybody that can spend, say 10 million to study Medicine in Covenant, can comfortably go abroad.

If government schools begin to charge this equivalent, then 90% of the students will be at Walter Carrington immediately after their housemanship abi na homemanship

If you say Scholarship, you have narrowed the number, and we will have fewer doctors willing to commit for that 5 years

Theflint1:
So I should ignore consistent patterns from statistical firms and rely on what makes sense in my or your head, even when neither of us is a professional statistician?

liveLongNprospa:


Do you even follow news properly?
The japa wave and rate of brain drain we are experiencing started with this apc government.

Doctors have not been leaving this country in an alarming rate till this party got into power.

This same party has come out through the minister to say the doctors should go and farm and even bragged about the graduates we are expecting from universities.
Instead of listening to the plight of these doctors.
During covid19 again.. During covid19 they paid peanuts to these doctors as hazard allowance. Infact outside Lagos state, how many other states paid doctors well that period.

You think that doesn't affect doctors who are in university?

Okay again I ask.. If the doctors decide to stop working for only 3 months because of this, what will any of you do?

nihilistjnr:


This one is 56k not even 800k


Like bruhhh

nihilistjnr:


This one is 56k not even 800k


Like bruhhh

Amigoss:


No video bro, just twitter post ni oo

Itsrm:


Nice spin

The fact that doctors are now leaving in large numbers has more to do with covid than APC. Countries were in serious crisis and labour shortage hence the need for medical professionals which made them relax migration rules.

Most of those doctors have always wanted to leave, the path just became easier with covid.

I'm sure no one is forced to study medicine, if you can't give 5 years back, look for other courses to study or go to those countries that appreciate skills to study.

Simple as ABC

larride:


Why waste 10m to study medicine here when you can japa and go study medicine outside the country? 😂

We are not saying the same thing. Even as cheap as university fees are currently, there are still thousands if not hundred of thousands that can afford it. Scholarship and educational loan will take care of it. That’s why i also included that their remunerations and welfare packages should be prioritized also.

BlaqFaze:
well... Obi is actually among the old hands...he only contested from Labour party because he lost primaries at PDP.

At the beginning, what made alot of people key into him was that North and Muslim have ruled the country enough, it's time for South east... it's time for an Igbo man to become president

That zoning stuff really pissed me because people around me were seeing at as a right for him to become president and not about what he has done.

In conclusion...I feel people went into this obidient stuff just because they don't want Tinubu and Muslim-Muslim...But everybody has the right to contest an election

And let's not forget the online bullying, the moment you support PDP or Apc, obidients deem you a witch... everybody has the right to vote his/her choice.

And also the massive amounts of insults Tinubu received from obedients...all those balablu...town hall stuff....it really made me want Tinubu to win.

I supported Atiku btw...I think he's the one with the brains that will get Nigeria working and end poverty, create jobs for youth bla bla bla....but it iz what it izzz... Tinubu will be president and he's more qualified than Peter Obi at least.

izzou:


As long as they can earn 1 extra dollar above what we pay here, they will Japa

Or is it today you know that their packages are shitt?

Like Itsrm said, commit to 5 years sounds favourable, and that is a fact.

The moment you remove that subsidy, nobody will remain here.

Itsrm:


Nice spin

The fact that doctors are now leaving in large numbers has more to do with covid than APC. Countries were in serious crisis and labour shortage hence the need for medical professionals which made them relax migration rules.

Most of those doctors have always wanted to leave, the path just became easier with covid.

I'm sure no one is forced to study medicine, if you can't give 5 years back, look for other courses to study or go to those countries that appreciate skills to study.

Simple as ABC

liveLongNprospa:
The president elect travels outside the country for medical purposes.
The current president travels outside the country consistently for medical purposes.

We have a senator who is in UK jail for medical crimes.

But see wetin these idiots dey plan😂😂

larride:


Will this bill apply to those that attend private university and paid premium money to become doctors or just for FG owned universities graduates? 😂

Them suppose flog you and those reps in the 10th assembly.

izzou:


As long as they can earn 1 extra dollar above what we pay here, they will Japa

Or is it today you know that their packages are shitt?

Like Itsrm said, commit to 5 years sounds favourable, and that is a fact.

The moment you remove that subsidy, nobody will remain here.

Ellexy:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/04/nigerias-hollow-democracy/673647/

Itsrm:



The argument can be made for those who attend private universities but to the best of my knowledge they still do their housemanship in government owned hospitals

One way or another, they are still drawing from tax payers money.

On the contrary, people like me are needed in HOR to make difficult but unavoidable decisions like this.

izzou:


I am even surprised that Nigerians living in Nigeria see it as a wicked policy

Until you go to a hospital (Public or private), and they tell you there is no doctor on duty, or you have to wait 5 hours to see one, na that time the person go understand the problem wey dey on board.

BlueRayDick:


Abeg post the Twitter screenshot make I see myelf and form an opinion .

Itsrm:



The argument can be made for those who attend private universities but to the best of my knowledge they still do their housemanship in government owned hospitals

One way or another, they are still drawing from tax payers money.

On the contrary, people like me are needed in HOR to make difficult but unavoidable decisions like this.

liveLongNprospa:


She is the queen!!!!

liveLongNprospa:


If you pay these people very well, some of them will not consider leaving ASAP as they are graduating from college.

The process for doctors to japa is not easy and some people would take their chances of being in naija and flexing this country while doing their jobs.

Surely this cannot be too hard na.
Infact some will not bother to leave at all.

Okay what if UK and US relax restrictions for them even further to counter this move by the FG.

Wetin you go come talk then?