Unlimited22:

The people who sponsored this bill and their families do not use public hospitals.

You can't write primaries or even go to nysc camp if you don't have a permanent license, so how will this affect residency training?

I don't even know which ridiculousness to tackle first.

Unlimited22:

Bros people spend 10 years in medical school through no fault of theirs.

We dey here dey see Nezzjnr and wetin do am for Madonna University. A friend of mine in camp spent 12 years in IMSU.

You go read with rechargable lantern for hostel wey no get light and water. Mosquito and bedbug go deal with you mercilessly

when you're doing anatomy dissection the specimens are so bad that you don't even know what parts you're seeing. For book na red, for body na pitch black.

One day they'll come and announce that your school has lost accreditation or that teaching hospital workers are on indefinite strike and months and years will just be passing in limbo.

You'll come out and work like a slave In the name of House job and during NYSC they'll send you to one village that has thatch houses and can't even provide face masks and gloves in their health centres.

You will pay bribe 500-750k to get residency slot that will pay you 250k wey you go dey pay NARD dues, dey read for part 1, dey take calls. And life still dey go on, them go dey hail you Doc Doc for house. Expecting you to shoulder certain responsibilities and maybe even start your own family.

You go dey run PP after punishing hospital schedule because you have to survive.

Then one idiot with yellow teeth that has never worked a day in his life and has gone from SUG politics to National Assembly will come out from nowhere and come and tell you to give back to the nation.

Other professions are doing BDSM na, their hands are tied and they can't give back.

Abeg abeg

izzou:


You read my comment very well.

He is the only person here that would complain and I'll keep quiet.

Apart from that, that bill would most likely be a lifesaver to me, and millions of Nigerians.

izzou:


We have 133 million people in poverty abi?

So, if all the doctors japa, who would treat these 133 million?

Give me a solution, instead of all these back and forth, abeg

izzou:


You read my comment very well.

He is the only person here that would complain and I'll keep quiet.

Apart from that, that bill would most likely be a lifesaver to me, and millions of Nigerians.

Theflint1:
The 133 million persons will stay poor and whatever they think they're escaping today will be waiting for them down the road. By the time people find ways around doing medicine in Nigeria, I wonder who'd be there to treat them in 8 to 12 years time when people stop applying to study medicine here and those that do, do so to offer their services abroad. Imprisoning doctors in Nigeria will drive wages down, whoever is getting a private university medical degree isn't staying back to earn peanuts.

We're only postponing dooms day with this policy.

Unlimited22:

Lol. the experienced doctors will leave and the younger ones will stay and you're assuming it'll be a lifesaver to you and millions.

There are only 12 consultant pediatric nephrologists in Nigeria and one of them, a professor, just left to become an INTERN in the US.

His salary as an intern is somewhere around 40-50k USD annually. His salary as a Professor and a consultant will be less than that if you calculate at 750, and you want people not to leave?


That aside, is the public school education only subsidised for health workers? Abi other professions have nothing to contribute to our country?

Theflint1:
The job of a president isn't to counter propaganda for propaganda. The people that wanted Buhari to speak wanted him to speak on issues, not necessarily to do propaganda vs propaganda. You seem to be rejoicing that Tinubu will essentially replicate Buhari's media absenteeism and get more of a pass because there'd be people to counter demands that he makes himself available with propaganda.

Unlimited22:

Lol. the experienced doctors will leave and the younger ones will stay and you're assuming it'll be a lifesaver to you and millions.

There are only 12 consultant pediatric nephrologists in Nigeria and one of them, a professor, just left to become an INTERN in the US.

His salary as an intern is somewhere around 40-50k USD annually. His salary as a Professor and a consultant will be less than that if you calculate at 750, and you want people not to leave?


That aside, is the public school education only subsidised for health workers? Abi other professions have nothing to contribute to our country?

seankafor:
bro take am easy abeg

Unlimited22:

Bros people spend 10 years in medical school through no fault of theirs.

We dey here dey see Nezzjnr and wetin do am for Madonna University. A friend of mine in camp spent 12 years in IMSU.

You go read with rechargable lantern for hostel wey no get light and water. Mosquito and bedbug go deal with you mercilessly

when you're doing anatomy dissection the specimens are so bad that you don't even know what parts you're seeing. For book na red, for body na pitch black.

One day they'll come and announce that your school has lost accreditation or that teaching hospital workers are on indefinite strike and months and years will just be passing in limbo.

You'll come out and work like a slave In the name of House job and during NYSC they'll send you to one village that has thatch houses and can't even provide face masks and gloves in their health centres.

You will pay bribe 500-750k to get residency slot that will pay you 250k wey you go dey pay NARD dues, dey read for part 1, dey take calls. And life still dey go on, them go dey hail you Doc Doc for house. Expecting you to shoulder certain responsibilities and maybe even start your own family.

You go dey run PP after punishing hospital schedule because you have to survive.

Then one idiot with yellow teeth that has never worked a day in his life and has gone from SUG politics to National Assembly will come out from nowhere and come and tell you to give back to the nation.

Other professions are doing BDSM na, their hands are tied and they can't give back.

Abeg abeg

seankafor:
But does PDP supporters exist?

It seems everyday.. it's obidients vs Batists..

This rivalry no get any second oo


Hahahaha

DeadPresidents:


Bro, I had a roommate called Jesse who was doing his MBBS when I was in Uniport. I and Jesse were in 100L together, I left school 2017, worked at 3 different companies, married...even japa and Jesse is currently doing his housemanship through no fault of his.

Omo, e reach to punch pesin for teeth wey misyarn.

raumdeuter:


Obidients are the online media arm of PDP

liveLongNprospa:


Honest question though. Coz I believe it would be a partial solution.


Do you think an increase of salary, and basically better compensation will help slow down the medical brain drain?

Unlimited22:

The solution is staring people in the face. But it doesn't affect them directly so they don't care.

Better working conditions, better remuneration. Gaskiya that is all.

The average salary in the English Championship is around 25-30k pounds per week if I'm not mistaken.
I have been a doctor officially since Feb 4, 2019. And in those 4+ years combined, I haven't earned up to a quarter of that.


How much do Nigerian lawmakers earn?

Go check the average starting salaries for agencies like NIMASA.

It's simple but nooooooo.....why should they want to leave? Who will we see to oppress??

DeadPresidents:


The same PDP wey dey fear APC and only get power to attack Obedients

DeadPresidents:


The same PDP wey dey fear APC and only get power to attack Obedients

DeadPresidents:


Bro, I had a roommate called Jesse who was doing his MBBS when I was in Uniport. I and Jesse were in 100L together, I left school 2017, worked at 3 different companies, married...even japa and Jesse is currently doing his housemanship through no fault of his.

Omo, e reach to punch pesin for teeth wey misyarn.

Theflint1:
You probably entered Uni 2012, so plus the 5 years imprisonment, Jesse go don spend 17 years before he's free to dictate how he wants his career to go

izzou:


Now, imagine a case where everybody leaves

liveLongNprospa:


Izzou

Unlimited22:

Why should the burden be on the doctors alone? Are they not humans?


Recently I had to irrigate a patient's eye to even see what I was dealing with. Make I raise eyelid to put under saline pump, nurse wey dey duty say saline pump no dey work and gloves no dey.

Had to do that with pure water sachet and my bare hands.

Imagine if I got an infection. My hazard allowance monthly despite all the talk is still 5k.


But look at how much money is being wasted by the country and stolen daily.


You were asking for solutions and they are simple.

Better working conditions, employ more hands, make it easier for foreign trained doctors to join the workforce, and better remuneration.


No be my fault. Me, I'm an only son and I want the best life for my family too. Me sef I like snow.

izzou:


I do not like to argue blindly, bros

If we are discussing, let us be realistic and not running here and there

Nigerian doctors deserve at least £5,000 per week.

Which government can pay that now?

Just start from here first.

izzou:


I do not like to argue blindly, bros

If we are discussing, let us be realistic and not running here and there

Nigerian doctors deserve at least £5,000 per week.

Which government can pay that now?

Just start from here first.

izzou:


I am not arguing anything with you, neither am i defending the government

My opinion is clear; If you all leave, millions will die, including some of us here.

I did not say you are being paid well or the hospitals are equipped. I did not say you shouldn't go either

If all of una go, people go die. This is a fact nobody here has countered, at least

izzou:


Maybe our UK brothers can help me, but this is what my Google says.

So how well will you pay a doctor, that he wouldn't consider running away to UK?

liveLongNprospa:

You just dey swing go the extreme end with this pay talk.

How many doctors do we have in this country that government cannot pay properly since they have discovered just how important they are.
Literally allocate a part of our budget to the medical industry and pay them.. Then you can iron out requirements and whatnot.

You keep screaming how the US and UK pay more.
My guy the US and UK pay more for almost all jobs except 1..guess which..just guess....

OH yes to be a legislator 😂😂😂.

Once again not every doctor who japas actually wants to japa but these guys dey suffer shege.

I talked about hazard allowance before Unlimited22 and he has mentioned it.

Nawa.. I don tire to repeat myself

Ibime:


This is entry level

A houseman can expect to earn £50k to £65k

A general practitioner £90k

A Consultant £100k plus whether a specialist, Radiologist or Pathologist

This is for NHS work. Most Consultants and some GPs have private practice and rake in hundreds of thousands to millions. The ones that don't have private practice lecture on the side