raumdeuter:


Who told you DeSantis does not have national appeal? The Democratic party?

There is a reason Trump has taken out millions in attack ads against DeSantis that has not even declared, there is a reason why the entire Democratic party and CNN are panicking about the thought of DeSantis. He dominates their news

There is a reason they decided to tip the scale and push this phoney indictment of Trump to make Trump the nominee so they can have the usual Trump is bad, trump is racist, Trump hates women, Trump was Bankrupt etc attacks on Trump that wouldn't fly with DeSantis

Why can't DeSantis wait for 2028?

Why is he in a hurry?

Biden or whomever the Dems put up in 2024 will win. By 2028, the country is more likely to have Dem fatigue and he can coast to the White House against whomever the Donkeys put up.

Instead, he is kneecapping his chances with core MAGAs, former Bernie Bros, and the #WalkAway Camp. Everyone talks about the McCain republicans that Trump has lost. DeSantis is losing the populists with his pre-emptive run. Establishment Republicans will realize how difficult it is get the flag-waving, vaccine-hating, anti-establishment folks to turn up.

Unless, they plan to deploy the Bush "election fortification" machine for DeSantis. At which point, dude will be hamstrung policy-wise and drop another disaster class like the Bushes and Ford.

-Lord

IjeBos:


You want me to quote me that law?

Article II, Section 12 of the Tennessee Constitution

The expulsion was democratic as well. They were voted out by a 2/3 majority.

That land whale that escaped by a single vote will get what is coming to her as well.

Edit: That's the problem with racism. It's not easily quantifiable and generally people find ways to try rationalize it. So, just go through examples of expulsions. How many expulsions have there been in Tennessee going back to the civil war? 3. 3 Expulsions. What were those people expelled for? (Sexual harassment, Conviction of Fraud, and Conviction of Bribery) Were there similar cases like this where people weren't expelled? Yup. And were there worse cases that people weren't expelled? Yup

But of course this is part and parcel of a larger story in the US. Republicans, using minority rule(not truly minority in this case), to gerrymander state districts to get super majorities to continue their minority rule/and or electoral power.

You may not give a Bleep, but it is a BIG Us story.

They've been expelled. Chant racism until your voice is hoarse. No one gives a sh*t anymore.

This is not 1970 when Conservatives crawl into their shells when you guys use the racist label. It's 2023.

A law was broken. They f*cked around and found out. Demanding decorum when you just cheered to putting a POTUS in jail over business record classification.

The Reds are all out of f*cks.

-Lord

It is from this GOP stock that basilico and benalvino3 take their lies and then come here to spread false statements.

I would be ashamed if I supported the dying republiqan party.

LordAdam16:


Article II, Section 12 of the Tennessee Constitution

The expulsion was democratic as well. They were voted out by a 2/3 majority.

That land whale that escaped by a single vote will get what is coming to her as well.

-Lord

I never thought I would see a nuisance on this board who is supporting the blatant racism we just witnessed.

Ahh you get small shame nahhh

Must you pander to every stupid thing the white supremacists do?

LordAdam16:


Article II, Section 12 of the Tennessee Constitution

The expulsion was democratic as well. They were voted out by a 2/3 majority.

That land whale that escaped by a single vote will get what is coming to her as well.

-Lord

Here is the text of that section. It is arbitrary. And racists love arbitrary laws. There was a range of things that could have happened from nothing to censure to expulsion.

Section 12.
Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings, punish its members for disorderly behavior, and, with the concurrence of two-thirds, expel a member, but not a second time for the same offense; and shall have all other powers necessary for a branch of the Legislature of a free state.Nov 4, 2014

To be fair to you. I edited the post.

Quote me that law.

Edit: That's the problem with racism. It's not easily quantifiable and generally people find ways to try rationalize it. So, just go through examples of expulsions. How many expulsions have there been in Tennessee going back to the civil war? 3. 3 Expulsions. What were those people expelled for? (Sexual harassment, Conviction of Fraud, and Conviction of Bribery) Were there similar cases like this where people weren't expelled? Yup. And were there worse cases that people weren't expelled? Yup

But of course this is part and parcel of a larger story in the US. Republicans, using minority rule(not truly minority in this case), to gerrymander state districts to get super majorities to continue their minority rule/and or electoral power.

You may not give a Bleep, but it is a BIG Us story.

LordAdam16:


Why can't DeSantis wait for 2028?

Why is he in a hurry?

Biden or whomever the Dems put up in 2024 will win.

I'm sorry you are not "Lord"
But what you said is True. President Biden will win again even if he was sleeping and didn't campaign.

If you are feeling the pulse of the nation instead of a distance arm chair punditry you'll know the republiqan party can't win anymore, so they engage in voter suppression tactics.

They also lost young voters and gen z by the way.

IjeBos:


Here is the text of that section. It is arbitrary. And racists love arbitrary laws. There was a range of things that could have happened from nothing to censure to expulsion.



To be fair to you. I edited the post.

Two-thirds of the house agree that the expelled lawmakers contravened that law.

That is democracy.

Anything else is noise!

-Lord

LordAdam16:


Why can't DeSantis wait for 2028?

Why is he in a hurry?

Biden or whomever the Dems put up in 2024 will win. By 2028, the country is more likely to have Dem fatigue and he can coast to the White House against whomever the Donkeys put up.

Instead, he is kneecapping his chances with core MAGAs, former Bernie Bros, and the #WalkAway Camp. Everyone talks about the McCain republicans that Trump has lost. DeSantis is losing the populists with his pre-emptive run. Establishment Republicans will realize how difficult it is get the flag-waving, vaccine-hating, anti-establishment folks to turn up.

Unless, they plan to deploy the Bush "election fortification" machine for DeSantis. At which point, dude will be hamstrung policy-wise and drop another disaster class like the Bushes and Ford.

-Lord

In Politics its about taking your time, 4yers is a long time in politics, People like Chris Christie waited for too long and they are forgotten

DeSantis is not attacking Trump, rather Trump is the one attacking DeSantis. 4 more years of Democratic agenda will not be good for the country but Trump has a lot of baggage which can be used against him in a general election

Just like Biden is using the Clinton election fortification machine, DeSantis can also use the Bush machine too

Machine vs Machine, establishment vs establishment. And we can have it.

Obrigardo:


I never thought I would see a nuisance on this board who is supporting the blatant racism we just witnessed.

Ahh you get small shame nahhh

Must you pander to every stupid thing the white supremacists do?

Obrigardo:


I'm sorry you are not "Lord"
But what you said is True. President Biden will win again even if he was sleeping and didn't campaign.

If you are feeling the pulse of the nation instead of a distance arm chair punditry you'll know the republiqan party can't win anymore, so they engage in voter suppression tactics.

They also lost young voters and gen z by the way.

Miss me with all that sh*t.

No one is above the law. And they were expelled in a democratic vote.

-Lord

wirinet:


You are still on this your obsession to exonerate Derrick Chauvin of George Floyd's murder, which had been determined by a competent jury and court.

How is Coolio's death exactly the case for George Floyd? Is the medical reports exactly the same? Did the medical report of George Floyd which was presented in court rule his murder as accidental?

For the umpteenth time (since your brain cannot process the conclusion of the medical examiner), the cause of George Floyd's death was Homicide and not accidental.

The Jury decides base on what they are told, they can also be political and with malicious intent. there have been countless men in prison wrongly accused of rape or murder and the jury decided that. The juries are not the not the experts, they only listen and make their conclusion base on who is more convincing, or what political influence they are exposed to. This is not rocket science.

but see this incident. you didn't hear about it because he is not black but in another exact manner Floyd died, knee to the neck but the police the conclusion was that nothing they did was wrong. they did all on how they are trained. We know that Chauvin's boss through him under the bus.

Martinez, Calif. – The Contra Costa District Attorney’s Office concludes there is no evidence of criminal offense by Antioch Police officers in the death of 30-year-old Angelo Voithugo Quinto.

The District Attorney’s Office released a Law Enforcement Involved Fatal Incident (LEIFI) report today as part of Contra Costa County’s protocol to investigate incidents when officers or civilians are shot or die during an encounter with law enforcement. The report is available on the District Attorney’s website.

The purpose of the report is to independently determine criminal liability in fatal incidents when law enforcement is involved. During a criminal trial, the District Attorney’s Office – which represents The People of the State of California — has the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that a death was not justified.

Part of the LEIFI report contains a legal analysis of the evidence in the death of Quinto. That analysis determined the Antioch Police officers engaged with Quinto in a manner that was lawful and objectively reasonable under the circumstances. Moreover, the report notes that the officers utilized reasonable force during their contact with Quinto [PC 835a(a)(3)].

The circumstances surrounding this incident were initiated with a 911 call from Angelo Quinto’s sister on December 23, 2020, at around 11:10 pm. Quinto’s sister wanted law enforcement’s help after Quinto was being erratic, physically aggressive, and harming his mother. Quinto’s mother could be heard in the background of the call saying “I can’t breathe. Stop it.” while Quinto’s sister told the 911 operator that he was strangling Mrs. Quinto.

Antioch Police officers arrived about a minute later. They were met by Quinto’s sister, who was clutching a hammer to protect herself from her brother. Officers heard a commotion coming from Quinto’s bedroom. When they entered the room, they saw Quinto’s mother struggling with him in a bearhug hold on the ground. Officers separated the two. One officer kneeled and placed one knee on Quinto’s shoulder to handcuff him while the other held onto his legs. This was the extent of force utilized by the two officers to restrain Quinto, and to prevent him from harming himself, family members, or the officers.

Police told Mrs. Quinto that her son was not under arrest. Rather, emergency responders were on their way to transport him to a hospital for any physical injuries. He would also receive a mental health evaluation while being treated at the medical facility. While one officer went to his patrol vehicle to get the needed paperwork, emergency medical crews arrived on the scene. They rolled Angelo over and noticed he was unconscious, his face was purple in color, and there was blood on the floor and his face. The officers did not strike Quinto in any way, and the autopsy revealed bite marks to Quinto’s inner cheek and tongue. Life-saving measures were administered, and Quinto was transported to a hospital in Antioch — where he died on December 26th.

An autopsy was performed on December 28th by the Contra Costa County Coroner’s Office. The cause of death was Excited Delirium Syndrome due to drug intoxication, psychiatric conditions, physical exertion, and cardiac arrest.

A toxicology report by the Coroner’s Office showed that Angelo Quinto had the presence of caffeine, Levetriacetam (a therapeutic for adults and children with epilepsy), and Modafinil – a drug to stimulate wakefulness – in his system. The County of Santa Clara Medical Examiner-Coroner reviewed the autopsy findings and agreed with its conclusions.

The Quinto[b] family commissioned an independent autopsy[/b], and its findings note the cause of death was restraint asphyxiation. The private autopsy lists petechial hemorrhaging as the basis for such conclusion. An independent toxicology report also found the presence of Fentanyl in Quinto’s blood – in addition to Modafinil and Levetiracetam.

However, of critical importance to the investigation, an internal examination showed no bone fractures or damage to Quinto’s larynx and trachea. While there are conflicting medical opinions as to the cause of death, the accounts of what transpired in the bedroom are consistent among all witnesses in that no police officer applied pressure to Quinto’s neck.

After reviewing the evidence, the method of restraining Angelo Quinto by Antioch Police officers on December 23rd was objectively reasonable under the totality of the circumstances. Therefore, when applying the applicable law and the California District Attorney’s Uniform Crime Charging Standards, there is no evidence of a criminal offense committed by the Antioch Police officers involved in restraining Angelo Quinto.

Contra Costa District Attorney’s Office will take no further action in this case.

raumdeuter:


In Politics its about taking your time, 4yers is a long time in politics, People like Chris Christie waited for too long and they are forgotten

DeSantis is not attacking Trump, rather Trump is the one attacking DeSantis. 4 more years of Democratic agenda will not be good for the country but Trump has a lot of baggage which can be used against him in a general election

Just like Biden is using the Clinton election fortification machine, DeSantis can also use the Bush machine too

Machine vs Machine, establishment vs establishment. And we can have it.

Chris Christie never had a chance.

DeSantis is everyone's first draft pick when Trump predictably bows out.

Who's going to challenge him? Haley, Cotton, Tulsi?

The US will survive 4 more years of Biden or whatever cornstalk they replace him with. Trump burned too many bridges. In hindsight, he should have been softer with the Republican Old Guard. Ease them into retirement rather than use a sledgehammer. You know how egos can be in the GOP.

But DeSantis is the best we've had in a long time. Certainly better than Romney and McCain. And rather than wait his turn, he is making himself to be the establishment cudgel which is not a great lapel pin for a sizable minority of the Trump coalition.

If he had waited his turn, many would have turned up their nose and voted for him in spite of his establishment credentials. But now, there is a real risk that after 2024, a lot of disaffected Trump voters will stay home in 2028 if Desantis is on the ballot.

I have no doubt that the Bush machine will be unleashed for DeSantis. But he still needs Trump voters as Quarterbacks.

-Lord

LordAdam16:


Two-thirds of the house agree that the expelled lawmakers contravened that law.

That is democracy.

Anything else is noise!

-Lord

Complete your argument... Racist things done that are rooted in law are ________
Emit Till's murderer was found not guilty by an All white jury. Tell me, what does that mean?

benalvino3:


The Jury decides base on what they are told, they can also be political and with malicious intent. there have been countless men in prison wrongly accused of rape or murder and the jury decided that. The juries are not the not the experts, they only listen and make their conclusion base on who is more convincing, or what political influence they are exposed to. This is not rocket science.

but see this incident. you didn't hear about it because he is not black but in another exact manner Floyd died, knee to the neck but the police the conclusion was that nothing they did was wrong. they did all on how they are trained. We know that Chauvin's boss through him under the bus.

The Scooby Snack black is back to cooning. Not only is he a White American, but he is now also a world renowned medical and Jury expert.

IjeBos:


Complete your argument... Racist things done that are rooted in law are ________
Emit Till's murderer was found not guilty by an All white jury. Tell me, what does that mean?

There is nothing to complete.

A law was broken. A vote was taken. They were expelled.

Period.

-Lord

IjeBos:


The Scooby Snack black is back to cooning. Not only is he a White American, but he is now also a world renowned medical and Jury expert.

yet you are the one actively looking for white man's approval.

certified Token Nigga

IjeBos:
I'm sorry. Just wrong.

To give you a background. I'd probably be one of those "acceptable" black people white people like to talk about, you know the "non thuggish type". Highly educated, top schools, doing well, etc. etc.

benalvino3:


yet you are the one actively looking for white man's approval.

certified Token Nigga

Lol. I'll tell you a secret, I call you a coon (well because you are one) because I know you'll reply by calling me a "token nigger". Exposing the fact that you are coon. And you seem not be able to help your self or even understand it.

I am seeking the white man's approval? Lol. Spoken from someone who has never spent a day in the US nor worked in Corporate America.
The cooner from Nigeria, cooning for people who don't even know he's there, talking to me about the struggle of having to assimilate to a degree to make it in Corporate America. Miss me with that stupid nonsense.

IjeBos:


Lol. I'll tell you a secret, I call you a coon (well because you are one) because I know you'll reply by calling me a "token nigger". Exposing the fact that you are coon. And you seem not be able to help your self or even understand it.

I am seeking the white man's approval? Lol. Spoken from someone who has never spent a day in the US nor worked in Corporate America.
The cooner from Nigeria, cooning for people who don't even know he's there, talking to me about the struggle of having to assimilate to a degree to make it in Corporate America. Miss me with that stupid nonsense.

Does not change the fact that you are a token Nigga with all your Jibby Jabba. All talk no brain.
Looking for approval of the white man.

Here is the thing you need to know. I will drag George Floyd from now till eternity. Saying coon is not new lol. Many have tried that since 2020 and i am still dragging the Criminal.

You had a date with a white man the other day, and you posed like his bitch for selfie... you are still seeking to be more accepted as a token nigga for the white man.

this accurately describe you Mom and Dad.
despite all the black eye, she won't leave him because of money and she had you to tie him down. you are an anchor baby with daddy issues

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeprzFOA64

IjeBos:
I'm sorry. Just wrong.

To give you a background. I'd probably be one of those "acceptable" black people white people like to talk about, you know the "non thuggish type". Highly educated, top schools, doing well, etc. etc.

Say it after me..

The
Republiqan
Party
Is
Dead

IjeBos:


The Scooby Snack black is back to cooning. Not only is he a White American, but he is now also a world renowned medical and Jury expert.

😂😂😂😂😂

Obrigardo:
Say it after me..

The
Republiqan
Party
Is
Dead

Yes it is. The sound of death rattle has been blaring across the land for several years.

The Republican Party is Dead. Not only do I have no love for them, I have no love for men with filthy, decrepit, and empty refrigerators and imaginary friends that fancy themselves honorary members of the Republican Party. Where’s OSHA when you need them?

IjeBos:
Holy Tennessee. The South stands up again. Back story, the Tennessee legislature had 3 members up for expulsion for protesting Child gun violence. They ended up expelling the only the 2 Black Lawmakers while the white lawmaker was not expelled.
Our resident cooners will tell us there is no racism in the US. Will probably say it was these black legislators fault for not knowing their place.
An aside: These politicians couldn't even help themselves. Their racism got in the way of their political sense. This was political malpractice.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/07/tennessee-republicans-racism-democrats-expelled

Leaving out racism, I would like to know more about what the duo did.
The links provided does not mention what the underlying issue was

Obrigardo:
benalvino3, the man who hates black excellence, come and check this.

BLACK UNEMPLOYMENT RATE STATS!

Highest Rate Ever was 21.2% (January 1983) in the Reagan Administration

Now the Lowest Rate Ever is 5.0% (March 2023) in the Biden Administration

So what's that your point again that the Democratic party is bad for Black people?
I and my siblings have never been out of work for more than a week, and just like that, we get a better paying job.

Do you have any anti-black propaganda to spread?

Link https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000006

Flipping burgers?

1stGenAmerican:


Yes it is. The sound of death rattle has been blaring across the land for several years.

I predict they will become a full-blown terrorist organization after 2024.
Imagine a house of rep member will be facilitating bomb making materials to a group so they can attack democratic states.
Imagine maga cops setting up mass shooting and giving way to school shooters.
What mtg jewish space laser is doing now will be child's play compared to the full-blown insanity the republiqans will exhibit after the loss in 2024.

At this rate, anything you predict about the republiqan insurrectionist party will play out. They have gone full fascist. History has told us what happens next won't be palatable.

Basilico, get out of the cult now, while you can.

basilico:


Flipping burgers?

Do you know even a burger flipper earns well than you right now? I don't care what you do, but I swear, you don't earn more than a Mcdonalds burger flipper.

1stGenAmerican:
The Republican Party is Dead. Not only do I have no love for them, I have no love for men with filthy, decrepit, and empty refrigerators and imaginary friends that fancy themselves honorary members of the Republican Party. Where’s OSHA when you need them?

Imagine they are now out to investigate children's genitals!

Meanwhile in the decrepit state of Tennessee, only 2 out of 104,000 student athletes are transgender!

basilico, are you connecting the dots? When i keep showing you the pedos who are mostly white republiqan leaning, there's a strong case I'm making. They are obsessed with kids sexuality and in that same state, they don't mind child marriage and cousing fvcking.

This is the party that inspires basilico. Tueh!!

Obrigardo:


I predict they will become a full-blown terrorist organization after 2024.
Imagine a house of rep member will be facilitating bomb making materials to a group so they can attack democratic states.
Imagine maga cops setting up mass shooting and giving way to school shooters.
What mtg jewish space laser is doing now will be child's play compared to the full-blown insanity the republiqans will exhibit after the loss in 2024.

At this rate, anything you predict about the republiqan insurrectionist party will play out. They have gone full fascist. History has told us what happens next won't be palatable.

Basilico, get out of the cult now, while you can.

I’m backing your predictions up. The most visible and vocal members are acting irrationally and erratically while the sensible portion that are in the think tank are distancing and disassociating themselves.