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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Benwallt(m): 12:11pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
I find it quite appalling some of the things I read here and the poster(s) goes free but if I type "I" or any other thing I get banned from that point till the next day. What manner of bigotry is this on the part of these crude mods 3 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Gajagojo: 12:33pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Many bigots championing Achebe here do not read and never opened any of his books This is what he had to say about Ibo culture "Strong men" in Ibo culture do not bend. I think than is a fault in the culture His words That was the story of Okonkwo who ended his life by suicide Nothing has changed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uys3XuJBnro We saw the same obstinacy with Ojukwu entering a war that would end predictably choosing to waste his people for empty pride 19 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by pdppower: 12:34pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
limcar: I believe you know Soyinka completes all the literary genres: prose, drama and poetry while Achebe wrote only prose. He failed woefully at poetry. 36 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Gajagojo: 12:42pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
limcar:It is clear you do not read otherwise you would not ask this ridiculous question You know nothing about literature You do not compare a drummer to a guitarist. They do different things. Shakespeare is considered the greatest figure ever in English literature ever He wrote plays mostly not novels Wole Soyinka is known mainly as a playwright and poet.,for his outstanding plays that have been performed in theatres around the world Have you ever been to a theatre to see a play? I doubt it You are more likely to go to a beer parlour to eat isi ewu Stick to what you know. 57 Likes 8 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by chacoonder(m): 1:49pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
It is obvious Prof..Wole Soyinka is far greater than Achebe. 32 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by LegendHero(m): 2:13pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
limcar: Mynd44 Seun Imagine after saying slurs won’t be allowed on Nairaland, these guys are still doing it. I did not even use any slur before I was banned few days ago. This account need to go down. 12 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by DMerciful(m): 2:23pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
You've really gone tribal but against separation so that everybody returns to their tribal enclaves. You cannot approbate and reprobate at the same time LegendHero: 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by LegendHero(m): 2:33pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
DMerciful: I own my tribal stuff like a man and you won’t see me saying I’m not. But the issue here is some hypocrites from Ibo land who are hardcore open tribalist but still posture as a non tribalist. Why the hypocrisy? This Charley Boy once called Fani Kayode a tribalist, and I laugh hard. Is Charley Boy not a tribalist? Same as Peter Obi who is a religious bigot. Rather than owning up to it like a man, he goes about lying that he is not one. 29 Likes 7 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by DMerciful(m): 2:40pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
We're saying the same thing. Since its obvious no country can make progress when tribalism reign supreme, why do we pretend to want to build a country. I have been consistent in calling for separation because i dont see any other way out and life is too short to use it to experiment the raising of a dead horse LegendHero: 5 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by LegendHero(m): 2:50pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
DMerciful: Do you have the power to effect the separation? Yoruba nation tried clamoring for it and we know how it ends. IPOB also tried same thing and we know how it ends. The only people that can divide this country are the political players, until they get tired together, this country will be indivisible. 24 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by DMerciful(m): 2:56pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
How will the political class get tired when they're benefitting disproportionately from the status quo? We're the victims of this contraption and we unfortunately are the foot soldiers used to enforce the indivisibility of the contraption. Its only a matter of time LegendHero: 2 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by totit: 3:12pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Dame Charley boy that couldn't pay his houserent while he was living in Lagos Island? Lmaooo 17 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by johannu(m): 3:43pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
DMerciful: It's only a matter of time. 4 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by limcar: 3:55pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Gajagojo:didn't you see where I countered the guy that he was into plays? 2 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by limcar: 4:07pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
pdppower:I checked Wikipedia. He wrote poetry, short stories alongside prose. He is regarded as father of African literature 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 4:13pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
babtoundey: Stop beating around the bush. If you combine all Soyinka books together, they can still not compete with the master class, THINGS FALL APART. Things Fall Apart has been translated into over fifty languages and read in over a hundred nations. It is the most popular book ever written by an African author. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 4:15pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
chacoonder: Achebe's Things fall Apart is greater than all Soyinka books combined together. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 4:20pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
pdppower: It is good to be jack of all trades , however it is better to be a master in one of them. Wole Soyinka is jack of all trades in Literature. He wrote prose, drama and poetry. However none of his works can compete with the master class , THINGS FALL APART. That is why Chinua Achebe is regarded as the father of African literature. 4 Likes |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 4:25pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
LegendHero: All the books written by Soyinka are inferior to the master class , Things Fall Apart. Achebe is not a jack of all trades. Like William Shakespeare, he deliver master class in his area of specialization. That is why he is the father of African literature. The igbos have also produce a successor to Achebe in Chimamanda Adiche. Can you confided in me the successor to Soyinka since you claim Yoruba are superior to igbos? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by JagabanBorgu: 4:33pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Hedonini:Whoever is not in support of ur disàstèr called Obi is never good in ur eyes. 25 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by JagabanBorgu: 4:38pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Hedonini:Nigèria is not in a time of wàr, election is not an issûé of Iifè or dèàth, Obi has Ióst, deal with it. 23 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by babtoundey(m): 4:40pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica: What's the master class about "Things fall apart"? It was a master class and could not earn him Nobel prize till his death. WS doesn't write for idiots. He wrote for people who are intellectually healthy. Any idiot can read and appreciate "Things fall apart". For you to read WS, you must be with your thinking cap. Once again, Achebe is not a complete writer. He is just a fantastic novelist (storyteller) and nothing more. Soyinka is a writer in and out. So, comparing both men is stupid 37 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by babtoundey(m): 4:44pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
limcar: How old are you? Sorry, I should be asking what class are you. If you are old, you have brain, and you read books that count, you will not open mouth and say Soyinka write mainly plays. WS is a known playwright, poet, novelist, theorist and essayist. 21 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by babtoundey(m): 4:47pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
SamboAnguissa: It's always come to that. You deride what you can't achieve. Anyways, you too should have awarded Achebe Anambla-Oweli Nobel prize to feel great. Bitter goat! 26 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by babtoundey(m): 4:50pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Vinnie2000: That "things apart" could not earn him a Nobel prize". Choke on that. That a book had market success doesn't mean it's has artistic value. Many great books were not even known or published. So, who is ignorant? 26 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by emerged01(m): 4:50pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
LegendHero:U get time replying those impotent coccks 17 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by babtoundey(m): 5:10pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
MikeofAfrica: Lol. William Shakespeare wrote poems and plays. He limited himself to writing those two because he had no intention of publishing his works. He wrote mainly for the stage. Wole Soyinka is a better and a more successful writer. 27 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 5:12pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
babtoundey Nobel Prize in Literature is not a criteria for knowing the best authors. The award is gotten through lobby hence some authors who know their worth are denied the award because they refused to play ball. James Joyce is regarded as one of the greatest English author. He was denied the Nobel Prize while some inferior authors of his time were given the award. Japanese Haruki Murakami and Kenya Ngugi Thiongo we're denied the Nobel prize for not bowing to the western culture. That is one of the reasons, Chinua Achebe was also denied the award. Things Fall Apart has been translated to over 50 languages. It is the most popular book ever written by an African author. The methodology of the book is studied as a course in Western Universities. That is what we call master class. I am not sure if any of Soyinka has been translated to more than five languages. Achebe is the father of African literature. He rejected the national award under Obasanjo because he was not happy with the situation of Nigeria. That was an award Soyinka and other authors were desperate to get. That is to tell you that Achebe can never compromise his principles to get a Nobel prize. He value his Integrity more than any award. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 5:22pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
babtoundey: Things Fall Apart has been translated into over 50 languages and studied as a course in Western Universities. Please can you tell me any of Wole Soyinka's book that has been translated into at least 10 languages ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by MikeofAfrica: 5:25pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
babtoundey: Soyinka got the Nobel prize through the lobby of IBB Government. If Achebe has bow to IBB, he would have also lobby for him to get the Nobel prize. |
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Raskimonojendor: 5:28pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
babtoundey: 1 Like |
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