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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by LegendHero(m): 8:28pm On Apr 08, 2023
ozo13:
pity them abeg.edakun

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Hawkler: 8:29pm On Apr 08, 2023
Vinnie2000:


Adolf Hitler of Germany also could NOT Finish what he Started (WW2). 😏

Yet he is one of the Greatest Leaders in History! Go and Read about him. 🙂

Same Way, Ojukwu is one of the GREATEST Nigerian Leader this Country has Produced. cool

Aside Olusegun Obasanjo and Awolowo, He is among the Top 3 GREATEST Nigerians we have Had.
Your comparison is preposterous from the start of mentioning Adolf Hitler, etc.
On April 30, 1945, holed up in a bunker under his headquarters in Berlin, Adolf Hitler commits suicide by swallowing a cyanide capsule and shooting himself in the head. Soon after, Germany unconditionally surrendered to the Allied forces, ending Hitler’s dreams of a “1,000-year” Reich. This is Martyr; he never flew from the anguish he brought into the world and his own country.
Ojukwu is a puppeteer who manipulated his people like puppets, till date Southeastern state is muddled up.

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Legitisreal: 8:30pm On Apr 08, 2023
greenandy:


It's Igbos who keep one Nigeria because Igbos have landed properties in the northern, western and eastern regions of Nigeria. Nobody wants to part with his life savings. Do you have a pin-drop of landed property in the north and east of Nigeria?
what am I having property in those two backward places for

Those areas would be prone to wars either succession or invasion or terrorists

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by prettyliz(f): 8:31pm On Apr 08, 2023
LegendHero:


Source: https://twitter.com/areafada1/status/1644585830722183169?s=46&t=oGAxjhiGeufNKlYA6fDTyA
I agree,As literature student, Achebe s books were dope but Soyinkas books were always tailless,when the way he ended the books were somehow

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Funkyswagzz(m): 8:32pm On Apr 08, 2023
LegendHero:
People should see the hypocrisy of the Ibo people.

They will lie that they are supporting Obi not because of tribe but yet anytime a Yoruba man speak against their candidate, they start accusing the person of tribalism and etc.

Why did Charley boy compare Soyinka to Achebe if not for tribalism? The hateful Chimamanda also mentioned he supported Obi because he is Ibo but if a Yoruba man says that we won’t hear word online again.

In all this, I’ve not seen the useless Falz and Marcaroni come out to condemn this assault on our living legend, but the useless guys will be online to cry about tribalism when a Yoruba celeb give it to these guys hot.

Ogbeni how will this country unit with these battle we are having every day. Is it not the duty of your president elect and the current president to unit this country but they have deliberately left us to trades words everyday to divide us further. If we cannot put ourselves together do you think we will come together when we have a mutual understanding of pain and agony? There game plan is already perfect and we are playing the script
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by BenzEne1(m): 8:32pm On Apr 08, 2023
Vinnie2000:


See your Ignorance in Full Display. embarassed

Chinua Achebe's THINGS FALL APART is Translated and read in 60 Nations across the World. shocked cool
Even Germans still Read the Book till Today. 🙂

His novel, Chike and the River, was read in Kenya, Uganda and many East African countries for Many years,
as their Basic School Supplementary book.

He is BIGGER than Soyinka, Plz. smiley

He's right
You are just bitter and therefore jaundiced to see the Truth.
The highest honour in literature is the Nobel prize.
It's like comparing Jay Jay Okocha to Ronaldinho.
Fantastic footballers both but one is more rounded and versatile.
Soyinka is much more versatile and a better writer. There's the truth and there's our opinions. Facts don't care about our opinions

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Raf4: 8:34pm On Apr 08, 2023
It is very glaring that we Yorubas have been accommodating and allowing our enemies to dwell and flourish among us.
We always show them unconditional love that they have never enjoyed and can never enjoy anywhere else, yet they have been nursing and nurturing hot hatred and bitterness against us.

This is the same Wole Soyinka who risked his life for biafra course and was also jailed for igbo's biafra course. It's a matter of time................

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by prettyliz(f): 8:34pm On Apr 08, 2023
pdppower:


I believe you know Soyinka completes all the literary genres: prose, drama and poetry while Achebe wrote only prose. He failed woefully at poetry.
Abeggi all those boring poetries..I'm sure you your self got tired of them.... Achebe's books were the best...if you want poetries and adages read his books
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Gajagojo: 8:34pm On Apr 08, 2023
samonak:
if not for politics that made Soyinka clinch the Nobel prize for literature, the global reception of China Achebe's "Things fall apart" which sold 20 million copies world wide and translated into 50 major languages in the world far eclipse any work done by Soyinka. In fact, Times magazine included the novel in its TIME 100 Best English language Novels from 1923 to 2005. Even Nobel laureate Wole Soyinka has described the work as "the first novel in English which spoke from the interior of the African character, rather than portraying the African as an exotic, as the white man would see him." So guy just leave that Nobel laureate stuff, it's just a title. Abiy Ahmed of Ethiopia won the prize for peace, yet he's the one almost annihilating the Tigray people in the northern part, Same goes for Barrack Obama who also won the same prize, (someone who destroyed Libya, that was once a prosperous country under Ghadaffi) so in terms of global impact and recognition, none of Soyinka's work even comes close to China Achebe's " Things fall apart".
Envy,typical

How did politics give Nobel prize to Soyinka.
Sales has nothing to do with anything here. This is literature not busness
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone sold over 120 million copies

The author won't win a Nobel prize

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by GUNITGuy: 8:35pm On Apr 08, 2023
Please can someone tell me what Chinua Achebe stands for apart from being a Literary Icon, story teller, and projecting his ethnic groups as superior beings for the whole world to know through his writings and always spiting Awo and Soyinka through "there was a country"....
The same line is being toed by Chimamanda Adichie from "half of a yellow sun" ..... playing victimhood to the international space to see they has victims in a country that have given opportunities to prosper too...
I have never seen Prof. Whole Soyinka projects Yorubas as superior to Hausa or Ijaw... ...... He's a playwright and an Activist that fought for democracy....
I never see Achebe being arrested for voicing anything against a military government at the height of tyranny but Soyinka was incarcerated for 24minths for Biafra, fled from Abacha, and never lived in Abuja yet he's highly respected .....
But C. A Nothing to say June 12, corruption except perceived injustice meted against his people...

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Putinofrussia: 8:37pm On Apr 08, 2023
I wouldnt be surprise of these Igbo barbarians.
They were still learning how to wear clothes in 2021.

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by idealogical: 8:39pm On Apr 08, 2023
Wole Soyinka won the Nobel and Achebe did not, but they still want us to believe that Achebe the loser was better.

Obi failed and end up 3 spots down in the 3rd place, but they still want us to believe that Obi won and his mandate was stolen.


Do you not see how odious and crooked these people are..?

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by dchamp234(m): 8:39pm On Apr 08, 2023
LegendHero:


Below is Prof. Wole Soyinka openly criticizing the Buhari government and even joined in the call for his impeachment but you believe your own lies that he was inactive.
Mumu, he was criticizing the government of buhari, but has turned dumb because his brother is to become the next president, he's the only professor that sees nothing wrong with the 2023 presidential election unlike his counterparts. It's a big shame, I'm not Igbo but if this is how elections are conducted in nigeria after about 54 years of Independence then we're going backwards to the primitive erra. It's a shame by brother.
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by maestroferddi: 8:40pm On Apr 08, 2023
tishbite42:

No need to argue with you
Things Fall Apart has been translated into 50 different languages and is the highest selling book written by a Black Man and an African.
Quote me when Soyinka achieves half of this.
Oh, I forgot.
Achebe is among the 100 greatest writers that ever lived. In company with Shakespeare and Homer, Milton and Chaucer.
Tell Soyinka to do that.
Bull's eye shooting....

Nothing more to add...

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Gajagojo: 8:41pm On Apr 08, 2023
prettyliz:
Abeggi all those boring poetries..I'm sure you your self got tired of them.... Achebe's books were the best...if you want poetries and adages read his books
What do you know? education is boring . It is not always entertainment.
It is for people with brain power.
Poetry is for spiritually evolved persons
Carnal minds won't get it

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Bigkoko: 8:44pm On Apr 08, 2023
What Nigeria is against isnt only corrupt politicians, but corrupt pastors, professors, imams, civil servants....the list is endless!

Hedonini:
Of course. I lost respect for the old fool the moment I discerned that he was just another rodent in Tinubu's cookie room. The idiot whose voice of condemnation was very loud against the Jonathan administration somehow retreated into his shell and became deaf and dumb throughout Buhari's disastrous 8 years of sorrow.

Now after a sham election has supposedly produced a bloody thief and drug baron as president, the useless Soyinka has found his voice again, not in condemnation of the election or of the disreputable criminal that was dubiously pronounced winner, but against the people yearning for a change. Obedients are repugnant fascists and he is ready to do a debate with Datti, but he conveniently has nothing to say about INEC, Tinubu, and the APC. This is the final straw.
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by akins088(m): 8:46pm On Apr 08, 2023
So Prof. Wole Soyinka is a fool to you? Then we should know who the real fool is, if you don't agree with his submission. That word fool is too big for your mouth, look at people looking for change, is this how foolishly you want to givern Nigeria?
Hedonini:
Of course. I lost respect for the old fool the moment I discerned that he was just another rodent in Tinubu's cookie room. The idiot whose voice of condemnation was very loud against the Jonathan administration somehow retreated into his shell and became deaf and dumb throughout Buhari's disastrous 8 years of sorrow.

Now after a sham election has supposedly produced a bloody thief and drug baron as president, the useless Soyinka has found his voice again, not in condemnation of the election or of the disreputable criminal that was dubiously pronounced winner, but against the people yearning for a change. Obedients are repugnant fascists and he is ready to do a debate with Datti, but he conveniently has nothing to say about INEC, Tinubu, and the APC. This is the final straw.

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by eyinjuege: 8:47pm On Apr 08, 2023
KosiGee:


Charley boy is not wise. If he was, he shouldn’t have brought Achebe into his grievance with Soyinka. Soyinka is human and everyone can be criticised, go back and read Charley Boy’s post. That wasn’t a criticism. Achebe would find his words repulsive and disrespectful.

Charley Boy should leave Achebe alone and fight his demons.

Charley Boy is only trying to be mischievous by sneaking in Achebe's name. He just wants to further fan the embers of discord, especially since both men are from different regions.
Because what has literature got to so with all of this?
Literature is the only common denominator amongst the 2, so why bring literature in with regards to the current political clime ?
Soyinka has always been an activist , even as a young man in his 20s and 30s. Achebe was never an activist
So what is the comparison about gangan?
See everyone discussing their literary works, over a matter that has nothing to do with that.

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by DriveByKiller: 8:47pm On Apr 08, 2023
LegendHero:
Achebe died an envious unfulfilled man and legend has it that envy for Wole Soyinka contributed to his death.

Why I love God is that he always make Yoruba triumph, we have bested the Ibos in all strata of achievement if we go head to head.

Below is Prof. Wole Soyinka telling the world how embarrassed he was on the kind of envy and hatred Achebe showed when he won the Nobel Laureate.

Soyinka is more of just a writer, he is an icon. A million Achebe can not measure up to him.
attack Charlie the confused gay but do not speak of the dead in dispresct, you soulless, cultureless fool.

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by ArsenWinner: 8:48pm On Apr 08, 2023
Vinnie2000:


See your Ignorance in Full Display. embarassed

Chinua Achebe's THINGS FALL APART is Translated and read in 60 Nations across the World. shocked cool
Even Germans still Read the Book till Today. 🙂

His novel, Chike and the River, was read in Kenya, Uganda and many East African countries for Many years,
as their Basic School Supplementary book.

He is BIGGER than Soyinka, Plz. smiley
So, where is the Nobel price to show that he is greater.

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Gajagojo: 8:48pm On Apr 08, 2023
tishbite42:

No need to argue with you
Things Fall Apart has been translated into 50 different languages and is the highest selling book written by a Black Man and an African.
Quote me when Soyinka achieves half of this.
Oh, I forgot.
Achebe is among the 100 greatest writers that ever lived. In company with Shakespeare and Homer, Milton and Chaucer.
Tell Soyinka to do that.
Highest selling book written by a black man?
More Aba made lies. What is the source of this bullshit?
Traders only understand sales
I can tell you do not read
Shakespeare wrote plays not novels
Did Achebe write any play?
Did Achebe sell as much as James Hadley Chase or Jackie Collins
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone sold over 120 million by your logic
JK Rowling is greater than Shakespeare
Bitter truth is Achebe was not good enough to win a Nobel prize
Not good enough

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Raf4: 8:49pm On Apr 08, 2023
danvon:
Wole Soyinka brought cultism to Nigeria he has played a big role in the degradation of Nigerian morals, however criticizing him based on politics and not on his own works is extraordinarily foolish.

You forgot to tell us how Wole Soyinka established okija shrine in your enclave.

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Odemok(m): 8:51pm On Apr 08, 2023
Then you are rightly aware that it's marginalization that south east doesn't have a sea port despite being the key player in commercial activities nation wide... Yet you expect them to fold hands and not fight for there fare share.

Legitisreal:
Ipob would deceive you that they were looking for one Nigeria progess

Their frustration on not getting obi is now exposing their bigotry

Chimanda supported Obi cos he is Igbo
Ojiakor supported because they would get seaport
Charleyboy supported to have one over yorubas which failed as usual

These are those that have confessed openly, the ones that haven't are now attacking yorubas as a people as a tip of their intentions



Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by imgoinghigher05: 8:51pm On Apr 08, 2023
SamboAnguissa:


Shhhhh. Achebe achieved more than Soyinka. The Nobel Laureatte given to Soyinka was fake. It was given by the Lagos- Ibadan ewedu press. This internet age has exposed their lies.

Nobody likes your post why?? 😁😆

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by Chechem: 8:52pm On Apr 08, 2023
From what I read hear, we are not one Nigeria and truly will never be...

Really do not know how it is almost impossible after all these years for us to go our separate ways...

We hate ourselves so much!!!
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by stanbright(m): 8:52pm On Apr 08, 2023
pdppower:



You refer to somebody old enough to be your grandfather an old fool. That shows the kind of background you have and typical of your tribe. Ọmọ iran kiran.
sharap
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by tishbite42: 8:54pm On Apr 08, 2023
Gajagojo:

Highest selling book written by a black man?
More Aba made lies. What is the source of this bullshit?
Traders only understand sales
I can tell you do not read
Shakespeare wrote plays not novels
Did Achebe write any play?
Did Achebe sell as much as James Hadley Chase or Jackie Collins
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone sold over 120 million by your logic
JK Rowling is greater than Shakespeare
Bitter truth is Achebe was not good enough to win a Nobel prize
Not good enough
I understand your tears
Facts can puncture fantasies
All I said is in public domain
Keep on crying
Achebe is in a class of his own
Personally, the only person that comes close is Cyprian Ekwensi. The People of the City and An African Night Entertainment were mad classics. Chukwuemeka Ike is a honorable mention too.

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by bizzibodi(m): 8:55pm On Apr 08, 2023
This Tribalism is killing us as a nation but wole soyinka fall hand ooo. cry cry cry
Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by broadman20: 8:55pm On Apr 08, 2023
LegendHero:
People should see the hypocrisy of the Ibo people.

They will lie that they are supporting Obi not because of tribe but yet anytime a Yoruba man speak against their candidate, they start accusing the person of tribalism and etc.

Why did Charley boy compare Soyinka to Achebe if not for tribalism? The hateful Chimamanda also mentioned he supported Obi because he is Ibo but if a Yoruba man says that we won’t hear word online again.

In all this, I’ve not seen the useless Falz and Marcaroni come out to condemn this assault on our living legend, but the useless guys will be online to cry about tribalism when a Yoruba celeb give it to these guys hot.




Look at who is talking?

Would you have accepted the outcome of the results if it didn't favour the Drug Lord?

Yoruba people and Hypocrisy is 5 and 6.

Just take a look at what somebody said about Yoruba people years back.

Was he an Igbo man?

Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by maestroferddi: 8:57pm On Apr 08, 2023
GUNITGuy:
Please can someone tell me what Chinua Achebe stands for apart from being a Literary Icon, story teller, and projecting his ethnic groups as superior beings for the whole world to know through his writings and always spiting Awo and Soyinka through "there was a country"....
The same line is being toed by Chimamanda Adichie from "half of a yellow sun" ..... playing victimhood to the international space to see they has victims in a country that have given opportunities to prosper too...
I have never seen Prof. Whole Soyinka projects Yorubas as superior to Hausa or Ijaw... ...... He's a playwright and an Activist that fought for democracy....
I never see Achebe being arrested for voicing anything against a military government at the height of tyranny but Soyinka was incarcerated for 24minths for Biafra, fled from Abacha, and never lived in Abuja yet he's highly respected .....
But C. A Nothing to say June 12, corruption except perceived injustice meted against his people...
The problem is not Achebe but you who obviously doesn't read extensively....

It is like the saying in football....A team is as good as its latest match...

Soyinka is culpable for not being circumspect enough before mortally harming his reputation with an insanely insensitive and partisan interview...

He ought to have known better....

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Re: Charly Boy Said Wole Soyinka Can Never Be The Man Achebe Was by davodyguy: 8:59pm On Apr 08, 2023
Vinnie2000:


Ur head nor Correct, Sir. 😕

Justice Oputa, of the Famous Oputa Panel that invited IBB, Gani Fawehinmi,etc? shocked

U think we are talking about Festus Keyamo?

U Smoke Ciga this Morning? 😏
The panel was merely a truth and reconciliation panel set up by Obasanjo. Hence, they had no constitutional backing and anyone they invited can decide not to come, with nothing happening for rejection.

It's like Confab.

Recommendations can be rejected

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