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Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by garfield1: 5:10pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
Melanin80: Inec itself says its guidelines are not mandatory so who are you to challenge them boy? Stop disgracing yourself and read supreme court judgments in akwa ibom,rivers 2015 guber cases,atiku vs buhari 2019 supra |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by garfield1: 5:14pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
Spy360: Yes that is what I am saying.for there to be a rerun,peter must prove that up to 2.8 million votes were invalid or illegitimate which is the margin between him and tinubu.based on these thread,total votes affected is not up to based on the irev calculations.atiku too in his own case must also prove that votes affected are over 1.8 million. The court can only order a rerun in those affected places which will obviously be places where apc dominates and with tinubu in power,he will still win.therefore,it is academic and needless 1 Like |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 5:27pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
garfield1:Keep deceiving yourself 1 Like |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by Enice(m): 5:34pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
frankadrian:big lie. So long as it was not pleaded in his petition, he cannot introduce it now.All this is waste of time |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by Ooni: 7:03pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
garfield1:Simple logic is obviously not your forte. There is a difference between vote subtraction and vote swap. What happened in much of the fraud was vote swap. Removing over a million votes given to Tinubu and adding them to Obi will bring them to par. The rigging was unintelligently done, leaving a lot of traces. Reason APC guys are visibly restless. Like someone said, they seemed to have underestimated LP and had to change plans mid election day. If the courts should order ordinary recount, Tinubu will be in trouble. 4 Likes |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by garfield1: 7:22pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
Ooni: You guys are deceiving yourself.where was obi's votes swapped? How will you prove it was obi's votes? Those evidences you feel are strong are weak and useless. If the court orders a vote recount,it will even be worse for obi.the hardest thing to do is to recount.in 2019 kad polls,votes were recounted and after one week,it was abandoned because it is time wasting.by the time obi finishes counting half of a state,the two months he has is gone.obi cannot make any headway,he will fail |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by BRIMBRAM: 7:30pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
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Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by CEOwatazs: 7:44pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
Whiteangel1234:this can't be true dou. I can bet on anything that the report from. Gombe is false. There was no way Peter Obi could have even scored up to 10% in Gombe. Gombe south the christian dominated area voted massively for Atiku while Tinubu's votes were from Gombe central and the other Muslims dominated areas. |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by pquaver(m): 7:48pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
Dafresh: And how do you know that? Are abure, obinyan n others not going to benefit more from Obi than you? |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by pquaver(m): 7:51pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
Spy360: Well i have told you... I will be here to drink your teats when d time comes. Bookmark this |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by Dafresh: 8:56pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
pquaver:That means you don't know Obi. Obi is coming with countability, but Tinubu is coming to enrich his men like he has been doing. Obi will reduce the cost of governance but Tinubu will borrow, loot and share it with his men 3 Likes |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by XY23: 9:44pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
garfield1: Lol. Beer parlour analysis. They're talking about vote suppression and inflation, you're talking about who actually lost or won. Some are even following INEC's arrangement of 1st, 2nd, 3rd. If you believe, as we all know, for example that PO won Rivers; that would make it his 13th state. Then the actual vote counts in Lagos and Plateau alone not to mention other states across the nation. In what world could BAT have won, talk less with the margin INEC declared? That would mean he scored the highest votes but in fewer states. And then comes BVAS. They know what they're are afraid of. The best APC would get is a rerun (assuming PO didn't get the spread). Otherwise, Nigeria is 'constitutionally' dead; then we can all go back to sleep. 3 Likes |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by garfield1: 10:20pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
XY23: The thing is,can you prove it? How can you prove votes inflation in court? Even if you prove voter suppression,the court won't do anything about it as they deal with votes casted not what happened before voting.in court,you can't just be assuming.that rivers was rigged doesnt mean other states were rigged.even that rivers,you must prove it polling unit by unit beyond irev results.what is the unit by unit evidence of rigging in plateau and plateau? This is a dead end |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by nameo: 11:13pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
garfield1: Dont come and be tying nonsense, Oga. I know I dont frequent this @seun forum again(as it seems he intends to allow it to self-destroy). The guideline of INEC has the force of Law. The electoral Act gives INEC's guidelines the Force of Law. Moreover, INEC itself is a regulatory body, so its guidelines has quasi-judicial and quasi-legislative powers. Any guideline from INEC cannot be breached without consequences. The only time INEC's guidelines do not carry effect is if any of its provisions is contrary to the Electoral Act, the Constitution or any Legitimate orders of the court. 3 Likes |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by nameo: 11:17pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
CEOwatazs: So southern Gombe was the only Christain dominated part of Northern Nigeria that didnt vote for Obi, abi? 2 Likes |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by CEOwatazs: 11:58pm On Apr 26, 2023 |
nameo:oga read what I wrote and what I'm replying to. There's no way Obi would have won the 2416 unit been mentioned by the OP that's a lie. |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by garfield1: 12:12am On Apr 27, 2023 |
nameo: Oga,the supreme court right from 2015 has exhausted the difference between electoral act and guidelines.the apex court clearly stated that violation of inec guidelines is not fatal and cannot be a ground to disqualify elections while violation of the electoral act is fatal.see wike vs dakuku supra,see udom vs apc supra..moreover,inec itself stated that electronic transmission just like server in 2019 is not mandatory |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by pquaver(m): 7:06am On Apr 27, 2023 |
Dafresh: Oga go sit down joor, i have seen you that knows Tinubu.. Obi that looted anambra money to Panama, did he remember you? No be only accountability... Lagos financial system is the most transparent in Nigeria, that other states started to copy courtesy of Tinubu.. You come here to open mouth.. Obi is a little crook deported as a criminal he is and nothing more |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 7:29am On Apr 27, 2023 |
garfield1:The new electoral act was signed into law after 2019,so electoral transmission is mandatory.Stop trying to be clever by half. 1 Like |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 7:30am On Apr 27, 2023 |
pquaver:Typical yoruba Muslim reasoning.Obi is too clean to be mentioned with the drug baron 1 Like |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by Spy360(m): 8:58am On Apr 27, 2023 |
garfield1:It does not have to be 2.8m and 1.8m respectively. What will be considered is the algebraic sum. That is addition and subtraction. So any number of votes accrued to Peter Obi is lost by Tinubu and same with Atiku. So we are actually looking at less than 1m votes. |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by Dafresh: 9:04am On Apr 27, 2023 |
pquaver:Obi already has Panama account before he became governor mind you TINUBU also has offshore acct. Lagos finical system is never transparent that's why Lagos keeps borrowing, have you checked how much Lagos is owing courtesy of Tinubu. Tinubu is a drug Lord. Peter Obi was never deported or you want to tell me you don't know the meaning of "DEPORTED" the only thing Tinubu is better than PETER is corruption 1 Like |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by garfield1: 9:12am On Apr 27, 2023 |
Spy360: You still dont get it.they won't just add votes to obi except he shows that those votes belong to him beyond doubt not just based on irev.he must bring prove beyond what is on irev.how will he do that? It is easier for obi to show that votes were invalid or illegitimate rather than it belong to him.based on what has been displayed so far is inadequate for the court to even rule in obi favour |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by garfield1: 9:14am On Apr 27, 2023 |
HIGHESTPOPORI: Oga,no place in the new electoral act calls for mandatory transmission.I dare you to point us to that portion.even inec has stated that it is not compulsory so who are you to vomit rubbish |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by pquaver(m): 9:18am On Apr 27, 2023 |
Dafresh: That is how u make yourself happy.. Obi did not have Panama account before becoming a governor else why did he not state in his form for code of conduct? Why will you hide what you legally earned.. Obi is only better that tinubu in hiding his corruption.. Obi is a grossly corrupt criminal who Nigeria saw his tricks.. Never.. Obi will never happen to Nigeria.. You can wail from now till 2050.. Obi will never be president of a united Nigeria.. Shikena.. Such a thief never |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by HIGHESTPOPORI(m): 9:22am On Apr 27, 2023 |
garfield1:Forensic analysis would revealed the canceled votes written at the polling unit.Let Obi worry about that, he didn't tell you he is finding it hard to prove the votes belong to him |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by Spy360(m): 11:01am On Apr 27, 2023 |
garfield1:Ok I get your point especially the bolded which is true. However, PO said he can prove especially with witness from Amazon Cloud or so, so let's wait and see. Also results on the the IREV are meant to serve as backup to the form EC8A. If INEC cannot justify the IREV then it is clear that they are complicit in election rigging. I saw part of PO's response to the rebuttal by INEC where he accused them of favouring and working for one party while also being an umpire. Something the Appeal Court has frowned upon several times on previous occasions. |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by Spy360(m): 11:07am On Apr 27, 2023 |
garfield1:You agree that INEC failed to follow its guidelines? Let's start from there. So that the issue is now if the failure of observe election guidelines by INEC violates the Electoral Act. |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by garfield1: 11:13am On Apr 27, 2023 |
Spy360: Inec inability to follow its guidelines is not a violation of the electoral act.nowhere in the electoral act is it stated that the guidelines must be followed. Again,inec explained that the non transmission was as a result of a glitch and network errors and out of its hands. |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by garfield1: 11:27am On Apr 27, 2023 |
Spy360: He cannot bring witnesses from Amazon or cloud,they cannot help him.they deal with servers,Internet,connection and has no part to play here.obu needs forensic analysts,mathematicians,polling unit agents,statisticians,voters etc not IT specialists that will deal with results physically and materially and show the court that votes were rigged or belongs to him.... Irev is not the primary backup but results or copies held by lp agents.they must have their copies first before comparing it with irev.obi agents have collated and analysed the irev severally and it shows that tinubu won based on irev therefore irev chapter is closed,obi needs to look for another means of proving his case either by vote recount,forensic analysis,tendering of copies of results by his agents etc Obi accusing or blaming inec is a waste of time.inec is dutybound to defend the results it declared and stand with the winners.even if pdp or lp won,inec will still stand with them. |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by Dafresh: 2:20pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
pquaver:Obi is in opposition party and APC led EFCC couldn't establish corruption case against Obi Tinubu is also in Panama |
Re: Peter Obi Won:2416 Polling Units Result Altered In Gombe And 1568 In Kaduna by Spy360(m): 2:38pm On Apr 27, 2023 |
garfield1:Your points are clear and your opinions are noted. Except that people from Amazon cloud can testify if the server was attacked. Why did you say they can't testify? The point is to show that INEC deliberately sabotaged the elections to allow for manipulations. Those manipulations are everywhere even on the IREV. |
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