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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynman: 1:07pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
I'll answer you. But first I need you to agree that "God" and "god" isn't the same, just as "Bishop" and "bishop" aren't. Go.
What’s the definition of God and god?

Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 1:08pm On May 13, 2023
Maynman:

when you go to market to buy foodstuffs, how do you examine it before paying?

This is dumb cheesy
you want to carry another man's cross? Focus on our discussion.
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynman: 1:09pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
you want to carry another man's cross? Focus on our discussion.
You are little, all your rebuttals are dumb.
You are like a scammer asking us to “believe” you and send our bank details and when we refuse you start bringing examples of “do you know if there are 8 planets”? DUMB

Only if you have knowledge on your religion and your Israelite deity you won’t open this thread.
But still, Yahweh worshipper you will learn cheesy

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 1:11pm On May 13, 2023
Maynman:

What’s the definition of God and god?
one is a name/title, the other is just a noun. One is a proper noun and the other is a common one. Satisfied?
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynman: 1:12pm On May 13, 2023
“The other is a noun”, are nouns not name/title? cheesy

ValeeLove:
one is a name/title, the other is just a noun. One is a proper noun and the other is a common one. Satisfied?
God/god is not a name but a title.
God, god, deity and Deity means same thing.

Yahweh Worshipper, Are you learning?

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 1:15pm On May 13, 2023
Maynman:

You are little, all your rebuttals are dumb.
You are like a scammer asking us to “believe” you and send our bank details and when we refuse you start bringing examples of “do you know if there are 8 planets”? DUMB

Only if you have knowledge on your religion and your Israelite deity you won’t open this thread.
But still, Yahweh worshipper you will learn cheesy
no. I don't want to learn from you. You are rude, disrespectful and other things I won't bother to mention and I don't want to continue this convo cos it's really leading no where. You have a good day.
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynman: 1:17pm On May 13, 2023
Hope you’ve looked up Wikipedia to know why yahweh is called a god or you prefer “God”
ValeeLove:
no. I don't want to learn from you. You are rude, disrespectful and other things I won't bother to mention and I don't want to continue this convo cos it's really leading no where. You have a good day.

Yahweh worshipper I’m just telling you the truth, your ignorance is all over this thread.
Like i said, You are like a scammer asking us to “believe” you and send our bank details and when we refuse you start bringing examples of “do you know if there are 8 planets”?

Don’t you see what religion is turning you to Valeelove, obsessed with beliefs yet in the collection of books you call “bible” they told you to seek knowledge, and people perish because of knowledge.
Ignorant Believer

Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynman: 1:39pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:

What evidence will he have to show you to convince you that he was God (the creator of the universe), if you're actually being sincere?
Which of the gods?
And how will you know it was yahweh and not allah or brahma that appeared to him?

Your rebuttals are weak like your creator yahweh.

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 3:16pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
yes, because that experience is spiritual.
What evidence will he have to show you to convince you that he was God (the creator of the universe), if you're actually being sincere?

So how would I know the experience is spiritual when I don't know what spiritual is?

First he would have to tell me what a god is and how he fulfills the criteria before showing me evidence that matches the criteria.

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 3:22pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
so if a lady told you she loved you, how would you know she was telling the truth?

She will first tell me what she means by that and then she will show that she fulfills the criteria of what she is saying.

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 3:25pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
how would you examine the chair?

Check to see the legs are complete, straight, with no cracks and flat on the ground. Shake the chair to establish it is sturdy. Next put a hand on the seat and press down to ascertain it can support weight. Then finally tentatively sit down without putting all my weight on it in case it fails.

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 4:24pm On May 13, 2023
LordReed:


Check to see the legs are complete, straight, with no cracks and flat on the ground. Shake the chair to establish it is sturdy. Next put a hand on the seat and press down to ascertain it can support weight. Then finally tentatively sit down without putting all my weight on it in case it fails.
"tentatively sit down without putting all my weight on it IN CASE IT FAILS". Truth is we use blind faith daily without even knowing. But I get your point.
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 4:25pm On May 13, 2023
LordReed:


So how would I know the experience is spiritual when I don't know what spiritual is?

First he would have to tell me what a god is and how he fulfills the criteria before showing me evidence that matches the criteria.
you'd know it is spiritual cos it will be real but cannot be understood by your natural mind.
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 4:27pm On May 13, 2023
LordReed:


So how would I know the experience is spiritual when I don't know what spiritual is?

First he would have to tell me what a god is and how he fulfills the criteria before showing me evidence that matches the criteria.
does he really need to? I mean it's there in your dictionary.
So, evidence? What kind?
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 4:29pm On May 13, 2023
LordReed:


She will first tell me what she means by that and then she will show that she fulfills the criteria of what she is saying.
what would you expect her to say? I mean she says she loves you. Isn't that enough? How would she show this criteria? Give me an example.
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 5:19pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
you'd know it is spiritual cos it will be real but cannot be understood by your natural mind.

That does not help me understand anything about what you are saying.
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 5:20pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
"tentatively sit down without putting all my weight on it IN CASE IT FAILS". Truth is we use blind faith daily without even knowing. But I get your point.

Well good for you if you use blind faith, I strive not to, including for gods and spirits.
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynmann: 5:30pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
does he really need to? I mean it's there in your dictionary.
So, evidence? What kind?

Have you ever looked up the definition of God in dictionary?
Which among these Gods, the christian one?

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynmann: 5:31pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
you'd know it is spiritual cos it will be real but cannot be understood by your natural mind.

How can he know it’s real if he can’t understand it by his natural mind?
Don’t you need to understand it before knowing what’s real or not?

Do you even understand what you are saying?

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynmann: 5:33pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
does he really need to? I mean it's there in your dictionary.
So, evidence? What kind?
Have you ever looked up the definition of God in dictionary?
Other monotheistic religion deities are also called “God”.

Weak!

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 5:36pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
does he really need to? I mean it's there in your dictionary.
So, evidence? What kind?

Yes since there may be some discrepancy in what humans are calling a god, I'd like to hear from the horse's mouth.

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 5:37pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
what would you expect her to say? I mean she says she loves you. Isn't that enough? How would she show this criteria? Give me an example.

What is the point of these line of questions?

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Dantedasz(m): 6:32pm On May 13, 2023
LordReed:


What is the point of these line of questions?


grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 7:36pm On May 13, 2023
LordReed:


What is the point of these line of questions?
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1. To prove to you that you can actually believe in something you don't know.
2. Emotion and intellect is one of the ways of convincing an atheist that another civilization exists outside the physical. This is because the soul (mind) is a connection between the physical and spiritual realms. So if I ask you a question concerning emotions and thoughts and you can't explain them, it will serve as a semi-proof that the spirit world actually exists. You get what I'm saying? You see images in your head everyday, from what you've seen and what you haven't seen, how can you explain that? The spirit realm has something to do with it. You feel things, joy, fear, sadness; there are so strong and yet are not physical, cannot be seen. Can you explain that? The spirit realm has something to do with them.
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 7:51pm On May 13, 2023
LordReed:


Yes since there may be some discrepancy in what humans are calling a god, I'd like to hear from the horse's mouth.
you see, that's the problem. You can't believe what you don't know, so how do you ascertain he isn't a scammer. You claim you can't be scammed, but even the best of us can be. We only trust because we have to, not because we are a 100 % sure. This is where faith in God comes in; the Bible says he that comes to God must believe he exists and is a rewarder of those who deligently seek him. Bro, to KNOW God, you must first BELIEVE.
Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynmann: 8:00pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
You claim you can't be scammed, but even the best of us can be. We only trust because we have to, not because we are a 100 % sure.

LIAR!

Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynmann: 8:03pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
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1. To prove to you that you can actually believe in something you don't know.
2. Emotion and intellect is one of the ways of convincing an atheist that another civilization exists outside the physical. This is because the soul (mind) is a connection between the physical and spiritual realms. So if I ask you a question concerning emotions and thoughts and you can't explain them, it will serve as a semi-proof that the spirit world actually exists. You get what I'm saying? You see images in your head everyday, from what you've seen and what you haven't seen, how can you explain that? The spirit realm has something to do with it. You feel things, joy, fear, sadness; there are so strong and yet are not physical, cannot be seen. Can you explain that? The spirit realm has something to do with them.
Animals feels joy, fear, sadness, they are called Feelings.
No wonder religion thrives mostly among uneducated people.

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by Maynmann: 8:04pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
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1. To prove to you that you can actually believe in something you don't know.
Of course you believe what you don’t know, the absence of knowledge creates beliefs lol

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 8:53pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
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1. To prove to you that you can actually believe in something you don't know.
2. Emotion and intellect is one of the ways of convincing an atheist that another civilization exists outside the physical. This is because the soul (mind) is a connection between the physical and spiritual realms. So if I ask you a question concerning emotions and thoughts and you can't explain them, it will serve as a semi-proof that the spirit world actually exists. You get what I'm saying? You see images in your head everyday, from what you've seen and what you haven't seen, how can you explain that? The spirit realm has something to do with it. You feel things, joy, fear, sadness; there are so strong and yet are not physical, cannot be seen. Can you explain that? The spirit realm has something to do with them.

The images I see "in my head" are function of my brain operation, it doesn't require "spirt realm" to explain. The emotions I feel are operations of the various organs and secretions they produce, also doesn't require "spirit realm" explanation. If you were hoping to use those as a reason to believe in something I don't know then you have been mistaken.

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by LordReed(m): 8:54pm On May 13, 2023
ValeeLove:
you see, that's the problem. You can't believe what you don't know, so how do you ascertain he isn't a scammer. You claim you can't be scammed, but even the best of us can be. We only trust because we have to, not because we are a 100 % sure. This is where faith in God comes in; the Bible says he that comes to God must believe he exists and is a rewarder of those who deligently seek him. Bro, to KNOW God, you must first BELIEVE.

Kindly point out where I claimed I can't be scammed.

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Re: Atheists This Message Is For You Guys. by ValeeLove(m): 6:23pm On May 14, 2023
jaephoenix:

There are many of them gods? Be specific bro
the creator of the universe.

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