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Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by maasoap(m): 11:38pm On May 15, 2023 |
1stGenAmerican: Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by 1stGenAmerican(f): 11:39pm On May 15, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Kobo, can I tell you that I couldn’t get their evil faces off my mind for weeks? They promised to send this woman to school when she first arrived and if I’m not mistaken, they were both doctors and living in a city surrounded by community colleges and trade schools with cheap tuition but what did they do? Abuse her and beat her like an animal. Just wicked! And the wicked people trying to justify their actions, even more wicked. 2 Likes |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:42pm On May 15, 2023 |
1stGenAmerican: I'm sorry to say but you're not being objective you're comparing a public forum with what exactly? How about you go on foxnews.com and check out their forum, if you spend more than 1 hour there before feeling enraged or sad, I'll bend! I'm going to explain this again this time slowly, I'm talking about overall results not just a micro evaluation. You know plenty that migrated and are suffering from PTSD, please quantify! 10, 20, 50, 100 or 1000? Now compare it to the average American or European kid suffering from the same from drug use or traumatic experience.......You lot love to talk about your own microscopic experiences but refuse to weigh it against the overall stats. The truth is majority of kids and adults that migrated from Nigeria to the U.S or Europe are well behaved, law abiding, hardworking people, there's nothing to suggest otherwise. Do not be deceived by sensationalism! |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Kobojunkie: 11:43pm On May 15, 2023 |
abbey621:1. Rather, that seems more like your area of expertise. 2. Again, this all amounts to meaningless gibberish given that there are no definitive studies to show that abuse is more rampant in the U.S. or that Nigerian kids are better raised overall than their American counterparts. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Kobojunkie: 11:44pm On May 15, 2023 |
1stGenAmerican:1. I was simply disgusted by the fact that they were both professionals in that story. It wasn't as though they weren't making enough money or something. it was just a ridiculous case of two wicked people to me. 2 Likes |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Nobody: 11:45pm On May 15, 2023 |
Mindlog:it is not always like this. One thing about abroad is that they have imbibed some political culture over many years. But you see their kids? They are the tattoo wearing, vape smoking, every weekend nightclub going kids. Most can't keep a job for 2 consecutive years. All they want is to have fun. But when it comes to politics, they only allow the calm-headed ones to lead unlike Nigeria |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by drlateef: 11:46pm On May 15, 2023 |
techbroX: I don’t think she intends to continue marrying him after the prison sentence. It is very obvious. She is getting back at him because he was not cooperative in getting her the citizenship she wanted so that she could bring her family to UK. She probably has grownup children she was planning to bring to Uk with her citizenship which the man blocked, perhaps for some reason known to him. |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:47pm On May 15, 2023 |
jedisco: Even the police force that you mentioned, the majority of them do not collect bribe openly. The ones on the roads represents less than 10% of the force. Using Nigeria as an example is easy, just look at majority of people that jaapa to foreign countries, what percentage of them are law abiding, hardworking citizens? In the USA, over 70% end up not only excelling in school but they go on to have a very good career. I tell you honestly now, let Nigeria fix it's insecurity, lack of stable electricity, unemployment, you would see more positive actions from people overall. There's a saying that you never really know the true character of a man until he's backed against the wall, this is the reality of most Nigerians, people doing anything just to survive. Even that policeman on the road is a victim as well but you can't see that because you're not in his shoes |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:48pm On May 15, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Oga I gave you links, the Least you can do is READ.....,READ!!! Stop this laziness! |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by InvertedHammer: 11:49pm On May 15, 2023 |
cococandy:/ Valid argument. When your kid mixes up with the wrong crowd in a Junior High School, let me see how you control that with your presence. Right now the most dangerous group in US is 13-15 years who shoot without questioning and brag about spinning the block looking for opps. From Chicago, Memphis, Bowie to parts of Indiana, it is a shooting expedition. If you don’t earn enough to move to the suburbs but reside in the inner city, chances are high that your kids will end up suspects or victims. / |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 11:51pm On May 15, 2023 |
BeLookingIDIOT: Your point? Point of correction, dual citizen here so what do you mean by your country? Ji ma sun! |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Kobicove(m): 11:57pm On May 15, 2023 |
JohnBullMySon: How is it not disrespectful for your child to be calling you by your first name?! There must be boundaries if you want your child to see you as an authority figure in the home |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by cococandy(f): 12:00am On May 16, 2023 |
I don’t know the kind of beating you think will make a 15 year old who didn’t previously respect you to start respecting you. If the foundation is right, you won’t need to beat them at that stage InvertedHammer: 1 Like |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Kobojunkie: 12:00am On May 16, 2023 |
Kobicove:1. If a mother and father train their kids to address them by their first name, how can it be considered disrespectful? Isn't it up to individual parents to decide what is respectful and what is not as far as the relationship between them and their own kids? |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Tinyemeka(m): 12:02am On May 16, 2023 |
techbroX: The woman wanted the man out. That's why she kept on bringing evidences (the kid's injuries at the hospital, the text message from the husband, etc) that she knew would implicate the man and put him in serious trouble. She's probably targeting child support payments from the government. You'll be shocked at the number of marriages that have dissolved because of benefits payments from the government. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:03am On May 16, 2023 |
abbey621: Not only is this a generalization, it’s an outright lie. I don’t fall for sensationalism, instead I base my thoughts/feelings on life experiences and facts. It’s funny that you think that American and European kids are the only ones using drugs or suffering from traumatic experiences when there is an equal amount of African kids (including Nigerian kids) on both the American and European continents suffering from trauma and self-medicating with drugs. The difference? Americans and Europeans don’t hide their shit from their families or the outside world while most Africans(including Nigerians) who are experiencing the same damned things with their children will go to the ends of the earth to hide what’s going on from their families and other Nigerians. Don’t say I’m wrong because I‘m half Nigerian myself and grew up in America around Nigerians and other Africans and witnessed them locking their kids away, beating them into submission, sending them back to Nigeria or whatever part of Africa they came from and bribing poor relatives with money to house/raise them, marrying them off to be someone else’s trouble, or just turning a blind eye and not caring as long as no one they knew found out. You probably also don’t know that when many of these Nigerian/other African kids grow up, they cut their parents off and live life permanently estranged from them. I’m not saying all but I’m saying many and some of the ones that don’t cut them off harbor deep resentment towards their parents and see them as a burden. Chinere Ogazi and other YouTubers are good examples. She speaks about being physically, mentally, and emotionally abused by her Nigerian father and while she and her brother were walking around in America with holes in their shoes, her father was boxing up new clothes to send home to family in Nigeria along with most of the family’s money. Another one speaks about being abused by every male member of her family. You're going to hear more and more stories because unlike older generations, younger generations realize that abuse is not normal are speaking up and calling their elders out on their bullshit. I disagree with the top 20 students all being immigrants because that’s a myth but let me tell you something funny. If you gain the trust of some of the Nigerian-American youth who excel in school, they’ll tell you in confidence that they’re doing well in school and working hard so that they can get the hell away from their parents ASAP. It’s not a rarity for them to purposely attend schools and settle clear across the America from their parents. Children with good sense grow up to hate their abusers. 😏 And those stories about Nigerian women migrating to the West and divorcing their husbands? They’re tired of getting beaten like animals and drop their abusers like the rotten, dead weight they are. 😀 Obviously, you and I won’t agree on any of this so my discourse with you on this subject is done. Goodbye 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:18am On May 16, 2023 |
Razgas: Are oblivious the youth in Nigeria who also wear tattoos, vape and indulge in drugs, go to nightclubs and hotels every weekend, and only care about getting rich quick and having fun? Most can’t keep a job for a few consecutive months and aren’t interested in doing honest work to earn a living. I laugh when I hear Nigerians, even those in my own family, talk about baby mama and a baby daddy culture herein theWest when there’s plenty baby mamas and baby daddies back home. Nigerians=the Emperor’s New Clothes |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Kobicove(m): 12:18am On May 16, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: If you train them to address you by your first name they will see you as an equal and think they have a right to disobey your instructions at will without any consequences |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by cococandy(f): 12:19am On May 16, 2023 |
Someone up there said I was unintelligent for saying that 1stGenAmerican: 1 Like |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by being(m): 12:19am On May 16, 2023 |
Wire caning might be extreme but thank God for u for that. Otherwise u would prolly have been a terrible nuisance to ur society Kobojunkie: |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by abbey621(m): 12:24am On May 16, 2023 |
1stGenAmerican: Again you just don't get it, you can argue all you want but it does not change anything. Please look up top 20 high schools in the USA based on SAT scores or whatever educational criteria you like and then come back here to explain that minorities are not dominating that list. I said dominating I did not say all! So let me get this straight based on your own life experience you can generalize but my own life experience is considered a taboo? The nerve of you people on this forum . You're right, we'll never see eye to eye.....PEACE! |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Kobojunkie: 12:25am On May 16, 2023 |
being:I know kids who were wire canned into their adulthood and have the scars to prove it, but yet ended up in prison in the end. So how does that factor in as far as your conclusion? I was not wire canned. I instead saw the scars left on others as a result of wire-caning. My parent stopped flogging me after an incident at about age 14 by the way. 1 Like |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:27am On May 16, 2023 |
Kobicove: I know of a young man who addresses all of the elders in his family and every adult with much respect by their proper names— he even bows before some of them. That same young man has stolen from his grandmother and aunt multiple times before being given an opportunity to come to the US. A few months after he arrived in his family member’s home, a family member he addressed by his proper title and name, the young man ordered credit cards in his family member’s name and wrote fraudulent checks from the family member’s account. The family member sent him back, I think he should’ve sent him to jail, and he’s back in Naija calling everyone including his parents by their respective titles and acting humble and respectful—but he’s rotten and evil to the core. The way a child or youth addresses someone doesn’t mean he respects or doesn’t respect them. 1 Like |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Kobojunkie: 12:27am On May 16, 2023 |
Kobicove:There is no truth to that at all. 1 Like |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:30am On May 16, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: No, there really isn’t. 2 Likes |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Kobojunkie: 12:33am On May 16, 2023 |
1stGenAmerican:I think we all know grew up knowing someone like that boy. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by jedisco(m): 12:34am On May 16, 2023 |
abbey621: Let's not make excuse for bad behaviour. It is still thesame adult Nigerians that'd fix Nigeria. As you glorify beating as the ultimate means to making better adults, two things worth pointing out are 1. As someone who's travelled wide, the group of Nigerian kids who get the most beating are almajiris. The koboko each receives in a day, your average city child might not receive in month. How do they turn out? Hooked on drugs, rading villages, raping and killing people. 2. As a nation, one effective way of instilling discipline which we have failed at is holding those in authority to higher standards. Having a drug dealer in leadership makes it extremely difficult to make young ones shy away. Same way giving justice to one thieving politician is more effective than flogging thousands of kids. The streets of our highbrow areas are dominated by our ladies selling their body openly to our politicians. No repercussions. In summary, there are different ways of guiding kids to be better adults. While some argument can be made for some form of corporal punishment in some instances, there are more effective ways of achieving same end goal. 1 Like |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Nobody: 12:38am On May 16, 2023 |
1stGenAmerican:but the difference is that the Nigerian kids have church/mosque and culture which prevents them from being rude to parents, teachers and elders for the most part. In Australia where I live, the kids can't be controlled by their parents |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:41am On May 16, 2023 |
abbey621: I’m a member of a national organization that gives close to a million dollars in merit scholarships to graduating seniors that belong to minority groups every year, matter of fact we’re announcing winners next week, and I help to analyze data to pick the recipients—nothing you tell me will change my mind about what I know. There are literally hundreds of thousands of non-immigrant Black children excelling and attending college just as there are those with immigrant backgrounds. I’m damned proud to be of Nigerian descent but I’m not one of those with the we’re perfect, always wearing blinders Nigerian-elitist mindset. You want me to look up SAT scores which has nothing to do with anything but why don’t you look up some of the shit our Nigerian youth are doing in America and getting caught. Those stories almost never make it back home. We’re surrounded by glass and need to recognize that instead of just throwing stones. Goodbye. |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by 1stGenAmerican(f): 12:48am On May 16, 2023 |
Razgas: Church/mosque culture? Do you consider it a good thing to be very respectful to parents, teachers, and elders while disrespecting, bringing harm to, and scamming other people’s parents, elders, and society as a whole? If church and mosque culture mattered, would there be so much crime in the country or would there be so many leaving the country to commit crimes in other countries? Are you aware of some of the things that go on behind the closed doors of these churches and mosques that the members depart and re-enact on others? There are huge cities in different countries where there’s a church or a mosque on every corner and in those same cities, there are youth and adults committing crimes and sins everywhere between those corners. Show me any religious leader with kids and I can pick out one of those kids that’s living an unholy, wayward life that’s being kept under wraps. There’s a moniker on here who talked about defiling his young female cousin behind a mosque and in the family’s compound and he was called out by several other monikers for his filth. Religious culture didn’t stop him from raping his young cousin and he probably speaks very respectfully to his parents and elders. Matter of fact, there are multiple monikers who speak of doing heinous acts in one thread while being holy in other threads—how respectful they are to parents and elders doesn’t matter because they are evil, rotten people. Church/mosque culture nothing to do with it anything because if they did, your country and many other countries would be extremely safe places. |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by MrBrownJay1(m): 12:59am On May 16, 2023 |
Shokoloko: the above problem is due to POVERTY, not bad parenting... as a great leader once said:" a hungry man is not a free man!" matm: yep, in the US these are the exact same kids (with no boundaries) that will get upset and shoot up the whole school and/or murder their own parents. maasoap: i became a great human being due to the BOUNDARIES that my parents put in my life... and the corporal punishments i received when i stepped out of line and/or disregarded my parents rules and regulations. a child allowed to have NO BOUNDARIES at home is just a time bomb! |
Re: London Court Jails Nigerian Three Years For Flogging Son by Nobody: 1:01am On May 16, 2023 |
1stGenAmerican:white people scammed the world with colonialism. Scam is what people do to change their circumstances if they have the heart. The thing though is that you are checking it from the perspective of Nigeria vs the west. Why not Africa vs the west. Cos I can tell you now that Nigeria, Ghana and Cameroon are the only African countries scamming and committing crimes abroad. The western changing culture is changing the way their kids behave. You see it from mass shootings, from overtly promoting sex and sexuality. Drug using. It is never a bad culture for kids to respect parents and teachers. Never. 1 Like |
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