diogo23:

Pretenders , And you have never see it before? White man wanna be

His next comment will be i stay in foreign country all my life. Or i attended rich man private school in Nigeria

Beautiful topic but have you examined the life is children who are not beaten in the western countries as well. Their lives are rotten mostly.

I guess there has to be a balance, how you get the balancing right is the game changer.

LeyeWrites:
Discipline and learning are two different things.


When I was a child I had asthma. My dad would tell me son don't go and play football, it triggers your condition. I'll go and play football. Then when I come back I got asthma attack. My parents would be unable to sleep throughout the night. The next couple of times I did, my dad start flogging me and it helped.

When I was a student in secondary school, we were flogged for many things. Late coming: that taught me punctuality. Noise making: that taught me I'm partly responsible for the efficiency of any team I'm in. Assignments: that I should meet deadlines on whatever tasks I'm given.


Would you had rather students don't do assignments? And teachers rather talk to them on it? Have you been to northern Nigeria schools?

Look, the benefit of discipline through flogging outweighs whatever medical junks you've been fed by the West.

As far as I'm concerned, I'll discipline my kids the way I was disciplined to make me a better person. You can treat yours the ways you want. But you folks should stop trying to impose your views on a longstanding culture of parenting that have stood the test of times.

Of course, you lots want Nigeria to have young adults like those in West who are now homosexuals and gun shooters.

Thanks for the deep insight!

People have been westernized and have started claiming what they not!

Flogging is one of the best thing that can happen to a child. It’s an instant reset that instantaneously crest that mistake in a child’s brain, never to be repeated again.

Yugoslavia247:


Wow.
You beat women

"Rod" of correction... Bad man is talking about the dick 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Staphylococcus:


Those parents instilled discipline, cleanliness, contentment and why you see that those generations are more instilled with morals and etiquettes. Not all these Yahoo clowns now.

Days that 5 Naira cannot be found with you, and your parents will interrogate you like it’s 1 million Naira.

Why I will always say, the values and etiquettes in Nigeria have been buried. It will only get worse. Ills and crime has become a norm, that it’s even celebrated.

Parents are now so weak, corrupt and gullible.

You have said it all, you can’t even leave home without informing anyhow but this generation ehn I tire

Stupid Africans copying the Whites

You think a well trained child will carry his fathers gun and go shoot others in school

Reason we now have many useless, mannerless, good for nothing children, teens and adults roaming the streets of Nigeria today

Me oooo, I will whooop the spirit of homosexuality, stupidity, rottenness, good for nothing and uselessness out of my children.

Spare the rod and face the consequences

SALLYBERRY01:


You have said it all, you can’t even leave home without informing anyhow but this generation ehn I tire

Leave wetin? you will tell them and they will give you time to return. I am just laughing as I am typing. Remembering those days just bringing smiles to my face.

Jakumo:
That picture of a man beating an underage girl on her ass just makes my blood boil. I would love to face that man in hand-to-hand combat to see how well such a sick sexual pervert can handle himself against a real man versed in martial arts

Is it Taekwondo you know?

I had a bit of a training too yet I'm the first to try and avoid conflict. I only fight when I feel threatened and it'll take a lot to make me feel threatened with all my experience and understanding. I depend on ruse more these days

Morning comrade.

Samantha124:
But it could also mean that she's from an abusive family and she's accustomed to the idea of using violence as it would've been the only thing she learned from home.

If as a child you grow up in a family that uses drugs, chances are you're also going to start using drugs from a very young age because it's a normal thing at home.

Some of these rebellious kids also need help because you'd beat the child up only for you to end up in prison sharing a cell with a cold blooded killer..

There are quite a number of misdemeanors that I was corrected for as a kid by flogging. Truth is... Decades down the line, whenever I want to do them, I remember they are wrong things to do. I once received the flogging when my mom saw me hanging a smoked cigarette butt on my lips. Till this day, I don't and can't smoke (even though I get the urge to try it out sometimes).

palsenator:



In you own brain, the rod directly mean flogging right?? The poster did a good one by outlining the fkaws in flogging.

My kids , can't remember the last time I flogged then yet we'll behaved atleast relatively. I didn't spare them from punishments though but flogging, hell no and no teacher is allowed to beat my kids.

There are many other approaches bro..

Ordinarily, I would not have responded to you but from the insults in your comment I can infer the kind of parent you are and the kinds of children you are trainning. Best of luck!

[quote author=efficiencie Even erring women also need the "rod" of correction to set their ass straight. So spare the rod and spoil the babe.[/quote]I hope you repeat these statement when it befalls one of your own
Imagine your daughter or your sis being beaten with a rod in her marriage
I hope you praise the hubby when you see the scars

wehdone:



There are quite a number of misdemeanors that I was corrected for as a kid by flogging. Truth is... Decades down the line, whenever I want to do them, I remember they are wrong things to do. I once received the flogging when my mom saw me hanging a smoked cigarette butt on my lips. Till this day, I don't and can't smoke (even though I get the urge to try it out sometimes).

Some people on the thread would say, your mum should have talked to you about the butt.

Beating will crest some things in your head that, you will never forget. I do many things now involuntarily and it’s all because of how I was raised. There are lines I have been programmed as a kid to never cross.

Let me take u up here again.
Take some time? U think kids have all the time in d world.. b4 u know it they are adults.
Flogging gives them that sense of urgency to change. A small child cannot cope with d pain of flogging so once he smells the cane, he IMMEDIATELY finds a way to control himself against the bad habit you are trying to correct and that SELF CONTROL stays with him.

Kobojunkie:
I was reading newspapers at age 6. I wasn't daft or dumb and yes, I was able to reason as early as 6 years of age. Kids are not imbe_ciles that you think they cannot be talked to. It may take them some time to get it but you continue until they do. It is how they learn. No one comes into this world prewired with knowledge of any or everything. They learn by picking these things up as they go. Flogging it into them does not help them in learning anything aside from the fact that if you are around you are a hindrance to their freedom. That is why the same kids you flog go on to become arseholes and crooks as adults. They never got to in fact learn anything real.

gannod:




Ordinarily, I would not have responded to you but from the insults in your comment I can infer the kind of parent you are and the kinds of children you are trainning. Best of luck!

I had to read the intro again and I must admit that I started wrongly. Pardon my error bro. I have edited it

Hussein035:


You came with good points but did you think African homes can afford the cost and knowledgeable of using psychological methods to apply good classical and operant conditioning as behavioral modification for children.

Are you aware that lack of applications of flogging and too much freedom is the reason why we have LGBTQ today and worse is even expected to become social norms due to the fact that the world power allows us to practice any behavior as long as there's large number of people who accept it and they find it fun-filled.

Flogging was part of European culture decades ago especially to contain maladaptive behaviors but a better approach was discovered through psychological methods and the fact that their government provide a good and moderate standard of living even for the poorest who still have access to better life compared to Nigeria.

Did you think if Nigerians have access to good economy, where life is so pleasant and sweet to live just like the UK citizens, they will have time to even correct any child or complain about anyone, it is the kind of hard environment that instil the believe in flogging and I pray Nigeria become as great as UK soon

LGBTQ has been long.

In the bible they are called the male cult prostitute.

Yes now..Even the book of Proverbs affirms it!

BRIMBRAM:


okay her neck would have been better.

It is the palm you flog.

See this guy o.. They instilled very sterling qualities in you and u don't value it enough to see that your children should also have it?
Is it not an awesome thing u look very responsible despite ur environment? Is it not great that by 7pm, u would be thinking about how to get home to your wife and children?

seanwilliam:
Beating na him make me no Dey social till now .

When I was young , I would go out to play from morning till night , na torch light my mama go Dey use to find me for neigborhood , my papa was working with a construction company then , if my mama don report me to him, chai I don finish that day . Dem go beat me like a criminal.
Till now, if I go out wether to visit person or to buy something or social gathering, I will always feel the urge to go back home as soon as possible. 7pm, my mind go don Dey my house, even if I no get anything to do. ( now I’m old enough small to be father too o and the fear still Dey affect me till now). And no matter
The situation , it’s extremely unlikely for me to sleep over for person house , as in I must reach my house o, even if I travel and lodge, e go still Dey do me like mske I don Dey house,
My parents frowned at omota lifestyles , now ehn, if you jam me for street, I look so responsible and mature sotey , u go think say na deeper life dem brought me up, but na lie, I be confirm pako.


Yes, beating works on some kids ( like me)

But I won’t raise my kids with beating . It affected my social life,

Yes, moderate flogging is very necessary.

That's why u should sort out things that needs to be sorted out b4 then

Spanki:


Flogging is between 3.6years-10 years old. After then nothing sinks. Sorry...

Yugoslavia247:
Despite all the flogging, we are still the most corrupt nation. High rate of internet fraud, hook up.

Flogging never actually worked.

Many parents flogg and gave up. Children revolt and fight back. Children become more dangerous and beast mode is activated.

Alot of children want to stay away from home.

At the end the flogging will at a point be needless. That is when most parent use the real parenting skills of advise and pleading.

You can not flog an 18 year old. He will fight you.

I think real parenting is the ability to use the other forms of effective punishment and reward approach. Because advise is the best.

In school the most notorious are still the most flogged. Did they stop being notorious? No.

The most pampered are more willing to excel academically.

In parenting, the ability to use the carrot and stick approach effectively works to a very large extent.

Children get use to beating and it becomes ineffective.

At a point you would not be able to beat that child. What will you do?

This is Africa where we we teach morals to children and encourage corruption of adults

Spits


In Africa is where a Father teaches his children not to steal while he loots his place of work endlessly

We actually are too lazy in African schools to imbibe theories of parenting and teaching. We prefer the easier route. Using pain and fear.

If many Nigeria teachers were living abroad they will learn patience and respect for children rights.

We most certainly do not respect that in Nigeria.

Many wealthy politicians sent their children to these schools in Nigeria where no one hits their children.

These same children end up the in elite and political class. They very confident and outspoken.

Flogging is for the poor.

Yes, it does work. The wisest man that lived on earth, Solomon recommended it but the following should be noted;

1. You can't flog a full grown child. It is done at the early stage of life.

2. Don't flog them like an animal.

3. It shouldn't be done too frequently.

4. Show your children love also. Let them know that you love them. So, when you correct them by flogging, they will not revolt.

5. Let them know why you are flogging them.

6. Don't flog to injure them.

That's why u should cane and sort out things that need to be sorted out b4 then.
Though I concede that for Christians, apart from flogging, they need to pray for their kids, set good examples and also teach them(Bible)regularly

Spanki:


Flogging is between 3.6years-10 years old. After then nothing sinks. Sorry...

The comments are against flogging because most of the contributors are singles. Over average counts of parents will support flogging

Yes it is a very part of Parenting. No one should bring western life to my door mouth. I am an African and we have our ways of doing thing. Flogging is what made some of us who are today. It makes us very respectful and very discipline, especially in public. I take no nonsense.

Jakumo:
That picture of a man beating an underage girl on her ass just makes my blood boil. I would love to face that man in hand-to-hand combat to see how well such a sick sexual pervert can handle himself against a real man versed in martial arts

At the mention of the name Ijakumo.

Blacks are stubborn , it was flogging that corrected many for good, otherwise, the rate of criminals and uncultured ones would have been outrageous.

It's part of it,at some stage. It Changes as they begin to get older. Understand it, parenting we be easy

Geovanni412:


Flogging is ineffective because you cannot flog away reality

A hungry man will do whatever that is necessary to survive

Prisoners can plan for 10 years to escape a prison

What makes people think that flogging is correction is beyond me?

The most effective form of punishment is psychological control

That's why a woman can control a man despite being half his size

There is no perfect method case study USA

Yugoslavia247:
Despite all the flogging, we are still the most corrupt nation. High rate of internet fraud, hook up.

Flogging never actually worked.

Many parents flogg and gave up. Children revolt and fight back. Children become more dangerous and beast mode is activated.

Alot of children want to stay away from home.

At the end the flogging will at a point be needless. That is when most parent use the real parenting skills of advise and pleading.

You can not flog an 18 year old. He will fight you.

I think real parenting is the ability to use the other forms of effective punishment and reward approach. Because advise is the best.

In school the most notorious are still the most flogged. Did they stop being notorious? No.

The most pampered are more willing to excel academically.

In parenting, the ability to use the carrot and stick approach effectively works to a very large extent.

Children get use to beating and it becomes ineffective.

At a point you would not be able to beat that child. What will you do?

This is Africa where we we teach morals to children and encourage corruption of adults

Spits


In Africa is where a Father teaches his children not to steal while he loots his place of work endlessly

We actually are too lazy in African schools to imbibe theories of parenting and teaching. We prefer the easier route. Using pain and fear.

If many Nigeria teachers were living abroad they will learn patience and respect for children rights.

We most certainly do not respect that in Nigeria.

Many wealthy politicians sent their children to these schools in Nigeria where no one hits their children.

These same children end up the in elite and political class. They very confident and outspoken.

Flogging is for the poor.

Your Opening statement, "Despite all the flogging, we are still the most corrupt nation. High rate of internet fraud, hook up." sums it all. What justification do adults who break laws flagrantly have to flog others? I see adults drive now way, throw dirts out of their cars, cheat in promotional exams, hide palliative, tell lies etc and yet no one flogs them.

Children are flogged over flimsy reasons. You came late, you got low marks. Is that the only way to correct a wrong doing.
Flogging only dehumanized us. It is still this correction mentality that makes spouses beat one another. Can you imagine you are punching someone you called, "honey", "My dear" sometime ago?
Flogging only instills fear and not respect.