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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:02am On May 17, 2023
Let’s look at the reality on ground. Balogun’s chances with England is dicey. Then look at the USMNT’s international record. USA overall has performed beyond expectations at the WC based on the talents they have over the years. Shows they have a great soccer administration. Then also consider which country needs him most. It’s a no brainer! He made the right choice. Me I no go dey play for banana plantation here and there and be arguing over my match bonuses, when I should be getting premium treatment with the US. Then think retirement, you are on your own. Our football admins need to show a high degree of patriotism. Let’s focus on that, and we will have more talents wanting to play for Nigeria.

Odunayaw:
Try de speak for yourself man. Which one be deep down in "our" minds

Like there are no born and bred US borns that haven't chosen to represent this country

No be everybody de reason first for him belly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:23am On May 17, 2023
If I drop the top 5 players from different sources now, wetin u go talk?..
Assuming I mentioned a metric you for don type another long essay.

komekn:


Your need to expand please.

What makes him the 4th best Midfielder in the Segunda division ❓

Those are statistical non contextual ratings and each rating body will have different ones.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 4:12am On May 17, 2023
Nino00:


Nigeria isn't even really in the equation.. It was a choice between England and USA because he already represented England at youth level. So why did he now choose USA? Abi USA is better than England too?


By the way, our national basketball team is filled with US born and breed players who don't have a problem representing Nigeria. In fact, if not for COVID-19 and injuries, we would have had either of Monte Morris and Spencer Dwindde reprsent us at the last Olympic games..they willingly choose to.. The Ogwumike sisters willingly tried to change nationality from the US to Nigeria.. Plenty of Nigerian athletes born and breed in either Nigeria or US are in US colleges and representing Nigeria.. So don't say nobody will pick Nigeria over Us... Sometimes, it isn't about the money or the clout

Bro calm down these are second fiddle basketball players
The once’s that won’t make it to the usa 🇺🇸 starting lineup so no they deceive yourself

If usa came calling none of them would even look back at Nigeria self

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 4:24am On May 17, 2023
typicalgamer:


Bro calm down these are second fiddle basketball players
The once’s that won’t make it to the usa 🇺🇸 starting lineup so no they deceive yourself

If usa came calling none of them would even look back at Nigeria self


He knows d truth but Dey love to deceive dem selves like say na dem Dey patriotic pass, meanwhile I wonder y he didn’t use his original moniker to quote me 😀😀
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 4:31am On May 17, 2023
Joebie:
Let’s look at the reality on ground. Balogun’s chances with England is dicey. Then look at the USMNT’s international record. USA overall has performed beyond expectations at the WC based on the talents they have over the years. Shows they have a great soccer administration. Then also consider which country needs him most. It’s a no brainer! He made the right choice. Me I no go dey play for banana plantation here and there and be arguing over my match bonuses, when I should be getting premium treatment with the US. Then think retirement, you are on your own. Our football admins need to show a high degree of patriotism. Let’s focus on that, and we will have more talents wanting to play for Nigeria.



Ur last statement about welfare summarizes d whole truth , our star players even complain about pitches;wc is one of d least welfarepackage let alone of the main one u highlighted in ur write up …but no,our ppu here loves to deceive demselve
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 5:56am On May 17, 2023
All of this shalaye no neccessary.
He wanted to play for us but we did not make any attempt to invite him. We don't need him.
USMNT was practically begging him to play for them cos they lack good strikers which affected them at the last World Cup.
If Nigeria went in for him he would play for us. Not all players are hungry.
Ziyech, Mane et al do not even collect match bonus playing for their countries. So rest this talk!
Joebie:
Let’s look at the reality on ground. Balogun’s chances with England is dicey. Then look at the USMNT’s international record. USA overall has performed beyond expectations at the WC based on the talents they have over the years. Shows they have a great soccer administration. Then also consider which country needs him most. It’s a no brainer! He made the right choice. Me I no go dey play for banana plantation here and there and be arguing over my match bonuses, when I should be getting premium treatment with the US. Then think retirement, you are on your own. Our football admins need to show a high degree of patriotism. Let’s focus on that, and we will have more talents wanting to play for Nigeria.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Marjoribanks: 6:03am On May 17, 2023
Most of the Senegalese, Algerians and Morrocans players do not take match bonuses playing for their country.
It's pathetic that ignorant people just come here to spit trash!
Folarin practically said he wanted to play for us. Why stress inviting him when we have more than 4 strikers better than him?

Did we invite him and he refused? No?
USMNT wanted and needed him desperately and he agreed to play for them. What is all these cry all about?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 6:22am On May 17, 2023
typicalgamer:


Oga quiet 🤫 your dirty mouth stop spitting on me i.mbecile

You talk as if na head to head each team go play
Try to beat the trash in your continent first before you bad mouth another continent werey.

Your team can’t comfortably do anything on the pitch your open your Pes ridden mouth they talk
i.mbecile on top discussion wey you no go gain anything. Abeg no dey quote me again na God I use beg you.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 6:34am On May 17, 2023
Marjoribanks:
Most of the Senegalese, Algerians and Morrocans players do not take match bonuses playing for their country.
It's pathetic that ignorant people just come here to spit trash!
Folarin practically said he wanted to play for us. Why stress inviting him when we have more than 4 strikers better than him?

Did we invite him and he refused? No?
USMNT wanted and needed him desperately and he agreed to play for them. What is all these cry all about?
Sir Majori.Folarin choice is United State not Nigeria.It was stated he picked US over England,Nigeria was not even mentioned.

Senegal,Morocco and Algeria national teams players receive bonuses representing their countries.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 7:27am On May 17, 2023
Amedino99:
i.mbecile on top discussion wey you no go gain anything. Abeg no dey quote me again na God I use beg you.


That’s over the top from me my bad
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nino00: 8:18am On May 17, 2023
typicalgamer:


Bro calm down these are second fiddle basketball players
The once’s that won’t make it to the usa 🇺🇸 starting lineup so no they deceive yourself

If usa came calling none of them would even look back at Nigeria self

elyte89:



He knows d truth but Dey love to deceive dem selves like say na dem Dey patriotic pass, meanwhile I wonder y he didn’t use his original moniker to quote me 😀😀

I don't think either of you follow basketball.. Who are the second fiddle basketball players? The Ogwumike sisters? Or Spencer Dwindde?

Let's goo to athletics..Tobi Amusan had every chance to represent the US especially as she went to college there,but she didn't.. you think the US didn't attempt to woo her or is she also a second fiddle?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nino00: 8:21am On May 17, 2023
elyte89:



Ur last statement about welfare summarizes d whole truth , our star players even complain about pitches;wc is one of d least welfarepackage let alone of the main one u highlighted in ur write up …but no,our ppu here loves to deceive demselve


It's very funny how you're trying to make it look like he picked USA over Nigeria when in reality it is USA over England 🤣🤣

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 8:23am On May 17, 2023
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:32am On May 17, 2023
No player is stupid not to demand match bonus etc playing for Nigeria, a country/FA ran by people who have no iota of patriotism or won’t sacrifice a thing. You are delusional.
Marjoribanks:
All of this shalaye no neccessary.
He wanted to play for us but we did not make any attempt to invite him. We don't need him.
USMNT was practically begging him to play for them cos they lack good strikers which affected them at the last World Cup.
If Nigeria went in for him he would play for us. Not all players are hungry.
Ziyech, Mane et al do not even collect match bonus playing for their countries. So rest this talk!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:42am On May 17, 2023
Nino00:




I don't think either of you follow basketball.. Who are the second fiddle basketball players? The Ogwumike sisters? Or Spencer Dwindde?

Let's goo to athletics..Tobi Amusan had every chance to represent the US especially as she went to college there,but she didn't.. you think the US didn't attempt to woo her or is she also a second fiddle?


E be like na for only your tv them take they show basketball 😂

No make me laugh you’re a clown

Nobody mentioned the female BBall team

Nobody mentioned athletics

Spencer dinwiddie is a role player at best he’s a supporting cast he was never a super star
He’ll never get a super max contract that super stars get

I’m telling you that no franchise star and key man in an NBA team will choose to pick Nigeria ahead of usa

As long as usa shows interest

You won talk to me about basketball no ever try am o
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 8:43am On May 17, 2023
Joebie:
No player is stupid not to demand match bonus etc playing for Nigeria, a country/FA ran by people who have no iota of patriotism or won’t sacrifice a thing. You are delusional.

You get strength to quote that block head ?

Football is a job
Ask him to show you a player that plays for top clubs for free
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 8:45am On May 17, 2023
Na kpangolo head e get. I for knack that he ogor with better hammer
typicalgamer:


You get strength to quote that block head ?

Football is a job
Ask him to show you a player that plays for top clubs for free
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 8:57am On May 17, 2023
typicalgamer:


You get strength to quote that block head ?

Football is a job
Ask him to show you a player that plays for top clubs for free


D moment he said most top players play for free for deir respective countries wout mentioning names;I knew he was capping 😊

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 9:49am On May 17, 2023
Nino00:




I don't think either of you follow basketball.. Who are the second fiddle basketball players? The Ogwumike sisters? Or Spencer Dwindde?

Let's goo to athletics..Tobi Amusan had every chance to represent the US especially as she went to college there,but she didn't.. you think the US didn't attempt to woo her or is she also a second fiddle?



True, the Ogwumike sisters are elite players (Nneka mostly). They were both no 1 WNBA draft picks but Nneka has featured the most for USA (mostly at the world cup) and injury hasn't exactly the favourable to them Chiney. Both sisters are very proud of their heritage, but it doesn't mean they would have chosen to play for Nigeria. Nneka only considered playing for Nigeria when it became obvious she was never going to get a chance to feature in the Olympics for team USA even though she deserves and has earned it (she's been snubbed twice).

The Tobi Amusan angle is likely untrue. Tobi's best tournament so far has been the recent world championship. She didn't make the podium at most outings prior (save the diamond league) prior to that. She of course could have chosen to switch, but no way she was seriously lobbied to represent USA.

It's also true that none of the D'tigress players would have made team USA. It doesn't mean as a collective they can't achieve glory globally, but as individuals none is even close to being considered. There's none currently in the WNBA. The closest has been Victoria Macaulay who was giving a training contract by the Aces last year and Connecticut Suns this year and she was cut both times.

We currently have 3 elite players of Nigerian decent in the WNBA (Arike Ogunbowale, Michaela Onyewere and Queen Egbo) with Arike Ogunbowale being the most elite of them (the other 2 have less than 4 years in the league). Arike isn't even considering playing for Nigeria at the moment, she's still hoping to play for USA (she's been invited to several camps and may just make the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by lovewins: 9:56am On May 17, 2023
typicalgamer:


E be like na for only your tv them take they show basketball 😂

No make me laugh you’re a clown

Nobody mentioned the female BBall team

Nobody mentioned athletics

Spencer dinwiddie is a role player at best he’s a supporting cast he was never a super star
He’ll never get a super max contract that super stars get

I’m telling you that no franchise star and key man in an NBA team will choose to pick Nigeria ahead of usa

As long as usa shows interest

You won talk to me about basketball no ever try am o

While I agree mostly with you, I think "most players" as against "no player" would be a better phrasing.

There are players like Ashleigh Plumtre and Udodi Onwuzurike (Athletics) who values heritage and identity to what's most glamorous. Udodi is currently breaking records in Stanford but chose to represent Nigeria from a very young age. Ashleigh is also like that, it's the same reason she has chosen to play for Leicester city (her hometown club) even when she had better offers from better clubs in the WSL.

Victor Oladipo for instance is an elite basketball player (no 2 draft in his time) but didn't even feature for the USA and would probably have represented Nigeria if we had a better structure that makes things easy. Again, I mostly agree that most athlete will go for the better option, but there are always exceptions.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:26am On May 17, 2023
typicalgamer:


Bro calm down these are second fiddle basketball players
The once’s that won’t make it to the usa 🇺🇸 starting lineup so no they deceive yourself

If usa came calling none of them would even look back at Nigeria self
You are buttressing the point that a starting shirt is the most important thing
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 10:34am On May 17, 2023
Joebie:
Let’s look at the reality on ground. Balogun’s chances with England is dicey. Then look at the USMNT’s international record. USA overall has performed beyond expectations at the WC based on the talents they have over the years. Shows they have a great soccer administration. Then also consider which country needs him most. It’s a no brainer! He made the right choice. Me I no go dey play for banana plantation here and there and be arguing over my match bonuses, when I should be getting premium treatment with the US. Then think retirement, you are on your own. Our football admins need to show a high degree of patriotism. Let’s focus on that, and we will have more talents wanting to play for Nigeria.

Even when our football administration was better in the yesteryears we still had people choose to rep another country, no?

I'm not arguing about better working environment. But do you not agree a shirt is Balogun's priority?

Think of it na, next world cup is in that country. What's the easiest way to be at that WC grin

Ọmọ ọgbọn ni Folarin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 12:22pm On May 17, 2023
lovewins:


While I agree mostly with you, I think "most players" as against "no player" would be a better phrasing.

There are players like Ashleigh Plumtre and Udodi Onwuzurike (Athletics) who values heritage and identity to what's most glamorous. Udodi is currently breaking records in Stanford but chose to represent Nigeria from a very young age. Ashleigh is also like that, it's the same reason she has chosen to play for Leicester city (her hometown club) even when she had better offers from better clubs in the WSL.

Victor Oladipo for instance is an elite basketball player (no 2 draft in his time) but didn't even feature for the USA and would probably have represented Nigeria if we had a better structure that makes things easy. Again, I mostly agree that most athlete will go for the better option, but there are always exceptions.

You don’t understand my point bro

Victor oladipo is an elite player, rebounder and 2 way scorer and an all around good player,( aside injuries)

What I’m saying is this

They’re are guaranteed a starting role
Drop. Nigeria 🇳🇬 and usa 🇺🇸
On the table 10/10 will pick usa

You think if iwobi was hotshot and England was calling

Do you think okocha words would have changed his minds

The sad truth is that we’re always second choice to players who didn’t make it in their country of birth

Guaranteed a first shirt

Zaha would pick Ivory Coast over England

It seems we all forgot why INAKI WILLIAMS
Followed ghana to the World Cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 12:25pm On May 17, 2023
Odunayaw:
You are buttressing the point that a starting shirt is the most important thing

It’s better to go to the World Cup or iaaf and be an unused sub that’s your definition of a successful career ?

Aside starting shirt usa/England eclipse us in all aspect of sporting activities
From facilities, to education and opportunities

I’m saying it again and again

Even you won’t pick Nigeria ahead of usa if you were to be presented the chance right now.

Sports aside
What job do you do ?
Doctor ?
Engineering?
Clerk to name a few.

You’re saying you rather be a first class doctor in Nigeria than a first class doctor in usa ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 12:27pm On May 17, 2023
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Toylove: 12:37pm On May 17, 2023
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:43pm On May 17, 2023
typicalgamer:


It’s better to go to the World Cup or iaaf and be an unused sub that’s your definition of a successful career ?

Aside starting shirt usa/England eclipse us in all aspect of sporting activities
From facilities, to education and opportunities

I’m saying it again and again

Even you won’t pick Nigeria ahead of usa if you were to be presented the chance right now.

Sports aside
What job do you do ?
Doctor ?
Engineering?
Clerk to name a few.

You’re saying you rather be a first class doctor in Nigeria than a first class doctor in usa ?
The thing you are missing is that the player in question is not a superstar. It's not hard to see that he will go where he is wanted and cherished (a shirt)

Facility? Education? For someone who grew in Arsenal?

You don't even need to assume what I'd pick. We have people who "settled" for SE. Why?

Right of choice becomes narrow when you are not spectacular and no disrespect to Folarin, we can't describe him as spectacular

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 12:45pm On May 17, 2023
Papi85:
https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2023/05/17/pitso-mosimane-tops-list-of-five-coaches-lined-up-by-nff-as-potential-replacement-for-super-eagles-coach/
How many days ago this site was saying it was Salisu, now Pitso

They named the site well. Owngoal truly
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 12:46pm On May 17, 2023
Odunayaw:
How many days ago this site was saying it was Salisu, now Pitso

They named the site well. Owngoal truly
salisu will be appoint on interim basis
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 12:47pm On May 17, 2023
Good move if it happens

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Papi85: 12:50pm On May 17, 2023
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by femianski: 12:51pm On May 17, 2023
According to reports, it seems Osimhen is injured

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