TheGoodJoe:


Football is long term. Those such games do not mean as much as improving yourself as a tactician. With time, you will seat with the big boys and others will get kicked out because their titles is short lived than tactical masters that last long at the big table.

Odunayaw:
With time, with time

1st Decade: Mourinho wins 2 trophies
2nd Decade: Another 2
3rd Decade: 1 in the bag, another 50/50

Accurate time keeper

TheGoodJoe:


You mean Conference right?


Another is trying to win the English Premier League five times out of six seasons.

Odunayaw:
There's a reason why one league bears the name of the continent and the other is local

TheGoodJoe:


I am more excited about the future with Guardiola disciples rising.

Xabi Alonso looks a true student of Guardiola principles. Same with Xavi and Company. More will rise and the game will be played in a far lovelier fashion with more tactical points to talk about.

Papi85:
and didn’t they win trophies for city after the spending?

I am not trying to say both are at the same level with pep or better than him but the end point is that they won the epl and other English cup titles same as pep hv done over the years

Odunayaw:
Modern football= learning how to lose

TheGoodJoe, 2023AD

Odunayaw:
Modern football= learning how to lose

TheGoodJoe, 2023AD

forgiveness:


My point is Guardiola spent huge money to achieve success in Mancity.

Mourinho spent huge money at Manchester United to crash them.

TheGoodJoe:



Championship Champions - Burnley - Manager -- Vincent Kompany - Style -- heavy possession football
La Liga Champions - Barcelona - Manager -- Xavi Hernandes - Style -- heavy possession football
English Premier League (likely champions) - Manchester City - Manager -- Pep Guardiola - - Style -- heavy possession football[/i]

Modern football is long term winning strategy. Not short term wins and praises.

Finito.

Philosopher1979:


Yeah i admire Guardiola
because he is definng a new era of Football.
Without Guardiola football will loose its fans.
A ten year old boy will not enjoy watchng Maurinho teams
and with Maurinho 30 years from now football may loosed its popularity
Its becuase of creative players like pele, maradona, ronaldo, messi etc\
that football became popular not boring 1 nill wins where you win a 38 match league by
scoring only 45 goals.

Secondly, Guardiola's method are truly innovative.
I think he invented the concept of the midfield playing full back.
Maurinho may not be remembered for nothing except winning.
He is not bringing beauty to football.
50 years from now, everyone will be talking about Guardiorla.
His style will be copied for a long time

TheGoodJoe:


In the long term, the possessive/offensive side will succeed more.

That is why Pep is winning multiple leagues in the Premier league and Mourinho can't win one.

The final has to do with luck and not tactical brilliance

Finito.

Hanibal:


Alaye Pep keeps winning because he has oil money to spend at city, he had Messi at Barca, and he walked into a Bayern team that won a treble the season before he arrived.

The statement you made above is the reason why Pep isn't popular among most football fans.... His fans like yourself always make it seem like he's some demigod.

Guardiola is a brilliant tactician, no one disputes that fact, but he isn't the best untill he can achieve what folks like Klopp, Ancelotti, Mourinho and Diego someone have achieved with less fancied sides and with far less resources.

He can buy three 50million pounds leftbacks in one season and three 40 million pounds centre back the same season and end up not playing any of them! How many coaches have that luxury?
Abegee

Hanibal:


Alaye Pep keeps winning because he has oil money to spend at city, he had Messi at Barca, and he walked into a Bayern team that won a treble the season before he arrived.

The statement you made above is the reason why Pep isn't popular among most football fans.... His fans like yourself always make it seem like he's some demigod.

Guardiola is a brilliant tactician, no one disputes that fact, but he isn't the best untill he can achieve what folks like Klopp, Ancelotti, Mourinho and Diego someone have achieved with less fancied sides and with far less resources.

He can buy three 50million pounds leftbacks in one season and three 40 million pounds centre back the same season and end up not playing any of them! How many coaches have that luxury?
Abegee

Hanibal:


Alaye Pep keeps winning because he has oil money to spend at city, he had Messi at Barca, and he walked into a Bayern team that won a treble the season before he arrived.

The statement you made above is the reason why Pep isn't popular among most football fans.... His fans like yourself always make it seem like he's some demigod.

Guardiola is a brilliant tactician, no one disputes that fact, but he isn't the best untill he can achieve what folks like Klopp, Ancelotti, Mourinho and Diego someone have achieved with less fancied sides and with far less resources.

He can buy three 50million pounds leftbacks in one season and three 40 million pounds centre back the same season and end up not playing any of them! How many coaches have that luxury?
Abegee

Hanibal:


Alaye Pep keeps winning because he has oil money to spend at city, he had Messi at Barca, and he walked into a Bayern team that won a treble the season before he arrived.

The statement you made above is the reason why Pep isn't popular among most football fans.... His fans like yourself always make it seem like he's some demigod.

Guardiola is a brilliant tactician, no one disputes that fact, but he isn't the best untill he can achieve what folks like Klopp, Ancelotti, Mourinho and Diego someone have achieved with less fancied sides and with far less resources.

He can buy three 50million pounds leftbacks in one season and three 40 million pounds centre back the same season and end up not playing any of them! How many coaches have that luxury?
Abegee

TheGoodJoe:


Mourinho spent huge money at Manchester United to crash them.

lbrichman2:


Smartly omit the fact that he delivered UEL trophy his first season
Anyway continue with your agenda
Suit yourself

Papi85:
oga with possession football and 1000 shots on target who made it to the final?

Or are you trying to tell me that possession coupled with shots on target is now effective than achieving result which is the main objective in a football match?🥺😳

comodo:

Don't mind him. Maybe him no sabi say Romance without penetration no dey give belle.

TheGoodJoe:


Mourinho believes he is tactically weaker, and deploys system to help him deal with opponents he considers tactically superior.

Finito.

Philosopher1979:


Yeah i admire Guardiola
because he is definng a new era of Football.
Without Guardiola football will loose its fans.
A ten year old boy will not enjoy watchng Maurinho teams
and with Maurinho 30 years from now football may loosed its popularity
Its becuase of creative players like pele, maradona, ronaldo, messi etc\
that football became popular not boring 1 nill wins where you win a 38 match league by
scoring only 45 goals.

Secondly, Guardiola's method are truly innovative.
I think he invented the concept of the midfield playing full back.
Maurinho may not be remembered for nothing except winning.
He is not bringing beauty to football.
50 years from now, everyone will be talking about Guardiorla.
His style will be copied for a long time

TheGoodJoe:



Championship Champions - Burnley - Manager -- Vincent Kompany - Style -- heavy possession football
La Liga Champions - Barcelona - Manager -- Xavi Hernandes - Style -- heavy possession football
English Premier League (likely champions) - Manchester City - Manager -- Pep Guardiola - - Style -- heavy possession football[/i]

Modern football is long term winning strategy. Not short term wins and praises.

Finito.

SucroseDeport:
A big manager like Jose Mourinho should be playing in the Uefa champions league and not the Europa league or conference league.

What on Earth would take Pep to conference league or even Europa league, that's a very big downgrade.(can't even imagine that)

A win against small teams like Bodo glimt, Dinamo Tirana, Braga, gent e.t.c are not worth celebrating.

TheGoodJoe:


I don't see Tuchel having a history of losing or Xavi losing. No need making up things to score points.

typicalgamer:


Pep will never coach a second favorite in a league know this and know peace

It’s either top dogs or nothing.

typicalgamer:


Pep will never coach a second favorite in a league know this and know peace

It’s either top dogs or nothing.

TheGoodJoe:


If Mourinho's style brings the most victories and success, he would be coaching a top club today. Same man that got kicked out from clubs due to his poor tactics, you are trying to sell such poor style as 5 star general.

daveP:
it's been a poor year for super Eagles players in EPL. Those outside are doing excellently. To imagine super Eagles players used to shine in this league a decade ago......


Fell off.