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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 6:43am On May 25, 2023
ken6488:
the day an aircraft is launched from Poland it becomes a target forget NATO



It should already be a target boss. if Poland wasn't NATO Putin would be attacked there already.
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by ken6488(m): 1:43pm On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:



The Aircraft are been moved from Poland to Ukraine, unlikely they would be used as a base for the Ukraine Air force. I was just telling the other guy that Poland has been coordinating weapons transfer and Russia hasn't attacked Poland and won't attack Poland. The weapons in Poland being transferred to Ukraine are military hardware and legitimate target. if Poland wasn't NATO, Russia would have attacked them. Man thinks NATO is overrated.


Ukraine held their own before they started getting weapons from the west. and until the plans for the counter offensive they were receiving little arms compared to the significant arms they are/would be receiving
weapons just move from Poland an attack from Poland is an act of war
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by b4ball: 6:20pm On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:



The thing is other nations also possess Nuclear weapons. The US/West already warned Putin bout the consequences of using the Nuclear weapons and how would Putin explain to Russian citizens who he tells they are winning in Ukraine that as a result of their "victory" in Ukraine they have decided to use Nuclear weapons there. They have a narrative they are following and going Nuclear would expose them.

Support for the war in Ukraine has dropped drastically
@Tiopii; I am forced to ask you this; should Putin nuke Ukraine, what would happen both theoretically and practically? Does the US and west decide Russian military doctrine? Will the US/west as you have put it nuke Russia in response?

I believe you know truthfully that nothing will happen. I believe you know the doctrine of MAD holds true. I also believe the collective west will never sanction their own annihilation in support of Ukraine. I believe you also know that all that will happen will be media vilification and more sanctions from the collective west. I believe you also know at that point Ukraine will take back their country and sign a treaty of surrender.

You also don’t know that the nuclear 5 have nuclear doctrines that guides the use of nukes. In the case of Russia, it’s an armed aggression against the state/allies using WMDs or an aggression that threatens the very survival of state. The Ukrainian war does not fit in any narrative or come close to this doctrine.

Also the war is Ukraine’s loss! What constitutes a win for Ukraine if at the end, it fails to join NATO and loses the Donbass? Is it the MSM celebration of bravery? If they end up settling for a MINSK style peace, what did they die and lose their economy, infrastructure and youth for?

You clearly state in previous threads that you are anti war, whereas you are simply pro-NATO. So tell us; where your lovely US has fought gallantly on their own since WW2 without tagging all its allies for military support. Even ordinary Yugoslavia was attacked by 12 NATO countries with Spain dropping the first bomb. Is it Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Vietnam. Mind you non of these foes were armed militarily by a coalition of more than 50 countries, yet in some cases the US ran away as losers after 2 decades of fighting. Now you know what it means to fight against an army armed, financed, trained by NATO and all its allies, over 50 countries in total and still holding the advantages. That is indeed a super power. You can chose to live in denial, but even the west knows that they have lost. Recently, a European leader said, without western support, the war comes to an end, do you know why? Because Ukraine was defeated in April 2022. Today the US and all of NATO is fighting in Ukraine with men disguised as volunteers and when caught labeled ex-this or ex-that. This war is a lost cause for the US and Ukrainian Zelenskyy, it’s only a matter of when we all arrive at the last Ukrainian for as long as it takes.

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Badassniggga(m): 8:05pm On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:



Russia won't attack Poland, Poland is NATO😂😂😂😂. Poland has been coordinating the weapons transfer from West/US to Ukraine.

Putin won't use Nuclear weapons in this war, Russia isn't the only country with Nuclear weapons let's hear word abeg.

Poland isn't Ukraine, they are far stronger with better NATO tech, the best Russia can do is ignore. I don't know how Ukraine would use the F16s but that's my concern it's UA problem
if Dem born NATO or Poland well, she should let her territory be used as a airforce base for sorties on Russian territory, Dem go know say God no get brother. Nuffsaid.
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 8:43pm On May 25, 2023
b4ball:

@Tiopii; I am forced to ask you this; should Putin nuke Ukraine, what would happen both theoretically and practically? Does the US and west decide Russian military doctrine? Will the US/west as you have put it nuke Russia in response?

I believe you know truthfully that nothing will happen. I believe you know the doctrine of MAD holds true. I also believe the collective west will never sanction their own annihilation in support of Ukraine. I believe you also know that all that will happen will be media vilification and more sanctions from the collective west. I believe you also know at that point Ukraine will take back their country and sign a treaty of surrender.

You also don’t know that the nuclear 5 have nuclear doctrines that guides the use of nukes. In the case of Russia, it’s an armed aggression against the state/allies using WMDs or an aggression that threatens the very survival of state. The Ukrainian war does not fit in any narrative or come close to this doctrine.

Also the war is Ukraine’s loss! What constitutes a win for Ukraine if at the end, it fails to join NATO and loses the Donbass? Is it the MSM celebration of bravery? If they end up settling for a MINSK style peace, what did they die and lose their economy, infrastructure and youth for?

You clearly state in previous threads that you are anti war, whereas you are simply pro-NATO. So tell us; where your lovely US has fought gallantly on their own since WW2 without tagging all its allies for military support. Even ordinary Yugoslavia was attacked by 12 NATO countries with Spain dropping the first bomb. Is it Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Vietnam. Mind you non of these foes were armed militarily by a coalition of more than 50 countries, yet in some cases the US ran away as losers after 2 decades of fighting. Now you know what it means to fight against an army armed, financed, trained by NATO and all its allies, over 50 countries in total and still holding the advantages. That is indeed a super power. You can chose to live in denial, but even the west knows that they have lost. Recently, a European leader said, without western support, the war comes to an end, do you know why? Because Ukraine was defeated in April 2022. Today the US and all of NATO is fighting in Ukraine with men disguised as volunteers and when caught labeled ex-this or ex-that. This war is a lost cause for the US and Ukrainian Zelenskyy, it’s only a matter of when we all arrive at the last Ukrainian for as long as it takes.

Putin won't use Nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
It'd affect both Russia and Putin's image internationally and he would become exactly what the West/US called him.

There would alot of unrest in Russia cos Russia and Ukraine still share certain relations, Russia's narrative is they are winning the Special Operation, so how would he explain to the people that he needs to use Nukes in the war he's already winning.

Just Russia's war in Ukraine prompted Sweden and FinLand to apply to join NATO, Russia would further lose influence among neighbors and the West/US would be justified to isolate him. Russia isn't the only nation with Nukes.

Russia using Nukes in Ukraine has a lot to lose, locally, regionally and internationally.

No Nation decided it's military doctrine in isolation, nations don't control other nations but nations can force other nation(s) to act in a certain way. There are a lot of unwritten rule on Nuclear weapon use.

Ukraine doesn't possess Nuclear arms, and it's objective is to push Russians out of it's territory, there's a UN votes on this as well, overwhelming majority voted for Russia to stop the war and pull back it's troops.
Ukraine pushing Russia out doesn't threaten the Russian state. We're currently under the rules based system and there's hierarchy. No nation would support Russia's nuke use and it would affect their international image.
At the state level, most states don't recognize Russia's claim to Ukraine's territory.

just to cut this long story, there would economic, social and military consequences, no nation is entirely untouchable and esp not a nation without powerful allies

Biden has said in the case of Russia using nukes on Ukraine, there would be a response, I expect it to be conventional response
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 8:48pm On May 25, 2023
Badassniggga:
if Dem born NATO or Poland well, she should let her territory be used as a airforce base for sorties on Russian territory, Dem go know say God no get brother. Nuffsaid.

Poland should already a military target, but cos of powerless you're downplaying Poland's role in the war.

one again, if Poland wasn't NATO, Russia would have attacked Poland and applied pressure to stop coordinating weapons transfer.

Fear NATO.

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Badassniggga(m): 9:20pm On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:


Poland should already a military target, but cos of powerless you're downplaying Poland's role in the war.

one again, if Poland wasn't NATO, Russia would have attacked Poland and applied pressure to stop coordinating weapons transfer.

Fear NATO.
lol it is NATO scared of Russia. Why haven't NATO used the same playbook they used in the Iraq invasion on Russia? Can you tell us what is stopping them? grin grin. They should've captured Moscow by now same way they took Baghdad to safeguard democracy. E reach better country time, Dem chickened out and resorted to proxy. NATO is nothing but scared pussies grin grin
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 10:34pm On May 25, 2023
Badassniggga:
lol it is NATO scared of Russia. Why haven't NATO used the same playbook they used in the Iraq invasion on Russia? Can you tell us what is stopping them? grin grin. They should've captured Moscow by now same way they took Baghdad to safeguard democracy. E reach better country time, Dem chickened out and resorted to proxy. NATO is nothing but scared pussies grin grin

If Putin wants NATO wrath, it's an open secret, attack any NATO territory. simple.
Putin said there would be consequence if NATO armed Ukraine, NATO armed Ukraine no consequence. Also warned against providing Tanks, NATO provided tanks and soon the F16s. NATO has crossed all their "Red lines" without any repercussion.

Same Putin that claimed to attack Ukraine cos of Nazis and cos of their application to join the EU and NATO. if Russia is as powerful as you think, they should have allowed Ukraine to join NATO before attacking them😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂



Just Ukraine exposed Russia's paper tiger army. Russia isn't even fit to take on the US takeless of the entire NATO. And soon you'd realize this. Let's keep following is the war, you won't admit or agree until it plays out.

your reason is If NATO isn't scared of Russia it should attack, NATO is a defensive pact. even Putin can't say the rubbish you're saying that NATO is scared of Russia 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. maybe you think NATO is an African pact.

NATO keeps expanding, Finland and Sweden wants to join, and NATO would be accepting both. NATO is getting stronger and as a result of the war, Russia is getting weaker, Putin prized Hypersonic was intercepted, you don't have any idea how bad it is for your enemies to have the advantage of seeing and studying your best military hardware. Ukraine is forcing Russia's hand in the war. Russia has/are using their latest tech in Ukraine with high losses and the difficulty of replacing certain key components. Wait until the West decides to stop holding back and give Ukraine some of their finest.

Moldova just announced they would arrest Putin if he enters the country, as recently as 2 yrs ago, who thought Moldova would be able issue statements like this.

With time you'd realize how mightily Russia has fallen and how people we all wrongly equated Russia with the USSR.

Just keep following the war.
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by b4ball: 11:18pm On May 25, 2023
Tiopii:


Putin won't use Nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
It'd affect both Russia and Putin's image internationally and he would become exactly what the West/US called him.

There would alot of unrest in Russia cos Russia and Ukraine still share certain relations, Russia's narrative is they are winning the Special Operation, so how would he explain to the people that he needs to use Nukes in the war he's already winning.

Just Russia's war in Ukraine prompted Sweden and FinLand to apply to join NATO, Russia would further lose influence among neighbors and the West/US would be justified to isolate him. Russia isn't the only nation with Nukes.

Russia using Nukes in Ukraine has a lot to lose, locally, regionally and internationally.

No Nation decided it's military doctrine in isolation, nations don't control other nations but nations can force other nation(s) to act in a certain way. There are a lot of unwritten rule on Nuclear weapon use.

Ukraine doesn't possess Nuclear arms, and it's objective is to push Russians out of it's territory, there's a UN votes on this as well, overwhelming majority voted for Russia to stop the war and pull back it's troops.
Ukraine pushing Russia out doesn't threaten the Russian state. We're currently under the rules based system and there's hierarchy. No nation would support Russia's nuke use and it would affect their international image.
At the state level, most states don't recognize Russia's claim to Ukraine's territory.

just to cut this long story, there would economic, social and military consequences, no nation is entirely untouchable and esp not a nation without powerful allies

Biden has said in the case of Russia using nukes on Ukraine, there would be a response, I expect it to be conventional response





1) Putin won’t use nukes in Ukraine is simply because the conflict does not fit into its nuclear doctrine full stop and not because of what you insinuate.

2) Biden has said this and that, I asked you, what do you think the US would have done in such scenario? Nuke Russia back? Even Americans would rather impeach Biden than have Biden nuke Russia for Ukraine! So the only response is the one we all know, sanctions and more sanctions, maybe tit for tat total expulsion of ambassadors from all of the west and normal media vilifications. What else?

3) You said no nation decides it’s nuclear doctrine on its own? You lie! The only unwritten code in nuclear Armageddon is MAD. The US has doctrine of first use in nuclear war, who did it consult before deciding on first use.

My argument is simple. This conflict does not qualify for nukes, so no need assuming nonsense. Again; if by your assumption Ukraine is winning. What constitutes a win for Ukraine outside the normal MSM narrative? If Ukraine does not take back Crimea, the Donbass republics and does not join NATO, what did its people die for? What did it lose its land, economy, infrastructure and population for? To receive wonderful BBC cheers and appraisals? Be specific and tell what constitutes a win for Ukraine and how achievable it is.

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Badassniggga(m): 7:15am On May 27, 2023
Tiopii:


If Putin wants NATO wrath, it's an open secret, attack any NATO territory. simple.
Putin said there would be consequence if NATO armed Ukraine, NATO armed Ukraine no consequence. Also warned against providing Tanks, NATO provided tanks and soon the F16s. NATO has crossed all their "Red lines" without any repercussion.

Same Putin that claimed to attack Ukraine cos of Nazis and cos of their application to join the EU and NATO. if Russia is as powerful as you think, they should have allowed Ukraine to join NATO before attacking them😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂



Just Ukraine exposed Russia's paper tiger army. Russia isn't even fit to take on the US takeless of the entire NATO. And soon you'd realize this. Let's keep following is the war, you won't admit or agree until it plays out.

your reason is If NATO isn't scared of Russia it should attack, NATO is a defensive pact. even Putin can't say the rubbish you're saying that NATO is scared of Russia 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. maybe you think NATO is an African pact.

NATO keeps expanding, Finland and Sweden wants to join, and NATO would be accepting both. NATO is getting stronger and as a result of the war, Russia is getting weaker, Putin prized Hypersonic was intercepted, you don't have any idea how bad it is for your enemies to have the advantage of seeing and studying your best military hardware. Ukraine is forcing Russia's hand in the war. Russia has/are using their latest tech in Ukraine with high losses and the difficulty of replacing certain key components. Wait until the West decides to stop holding back and give Ukraine some of their finest.

Moldova just announced they would arrest Putin if he enters the country, as recently as 2 yrs ago, who thought Moldova would be able issue statements like this.

With time you'd realize how mightily Russia has fallen and how people we all wrongly equated Russia with the USSR.

Just keep following the war.




Oga spare me this long note you wrote. You haven't answered my question which is:

why haven't US and NATO invade Russia like they did to Iraq? What is stopping them from using the Iraq playbook style on Russia instead of resorting to proxy war? Did Iraq do half of what Russia is currently doing before US invaded her? Democracy must be fought for and safeguarded according to Murica. What are they afraid of when it comes to Russia? Answer these questions first before I have the time to look at the other irrelevant stuff underneath in your reply.

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 8:45am On May 27, 2023
Badassniggga:
Oga spare me this long note you wrote. You haven't answered my question which is:

why haven't US and NATO invade Russia like they did to Iraq? What is stopping them from using the Iraq playbook style on Russia instead of resorting to proxy war? Did Iraq do half of what Russia is currently doing before US invaded her? Democracy must be fought for and safeguarded according to Murica. What are they afraid of when it comes to Russia? Answer these questions first before I have the time to look at the other irrelevant stuff underneath in your reply.


😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. You want to argue US/Russia under Ukraine thread..

Even Russia claim to be a democracy, with native adaptions. while it isn't like the Western style Democracy they still claim to be a democracy regardless.

what benefits would it be for the NATO to invade Russia? Wetin concern Lion for cat and mouse matter?? Russia isn't a threat to NATO, NATO is a threat to Russia's influence in Eastern Europe. NATO has it's Territories and areas of influence on lockdown it's Russia that's struggling to exert influence in her sphere and even in former USSR states.

You said did Iraq do half of what Russia did?😂😂😂😂😂. What is Russia doing that has affected the US interest anywhere in the World??

The only reason Russia is getting this attention is cos if it's war in Ukraine, Militarily Russia has gone backwards like 20yrs, Economically like 30yrs and it's getting worse every day.

Modern Russia is at its weakest at the moment and also possibly the strongest it'd be for some years. The war is downgrading Russia, but like everyone govt they won't admit it. unlike WW2 they don't allies to support them.

This Russia can't battle NATO even without the US. We have seen the best Russia has to offer and it hasn't been enough in little Ukraine. Russia can't annex a country they share land border with. while I don't support US actions in Iraq, but they occupied a country by going through the Atlantics.

One thing is certain, if it was US and Ukraine, it won't take this long and there would be coalition supporting Ukraine. this should give you an idea between how different the US and Russia is in global affairs.

Weapons would keep coming in for Ukraine, and the sanctions would only get worse for Russia.

since Russia attacked Ukraine, Finland and Sweden has applied for NATO membership. And there's serious possibility they Ukraine joins after the war.

I want you to realize that in the War between Russia and Ukraine, it is NATO that is holding back and not Russia. Putin treasured Nuclear weapons won't be used in Ukraine. theres one quote I read here one time "if the whole world cook for you, you no fit chop am finish" That's the situation Russia is in rn

And the war is between Ukraine and Russia. leave NATO out of this abeg.. let Russia focus on little Ukraine abeg.

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:17pm On May 27, 2023
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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by mojounited(m): 9:15pm On May 28, 2023
Badassniggga:
if Dem born NATO or Poland well, she should let her territory be used as a airforce base for sorties on Russian territory, Dem go know say God no get brother. Nuffsaid.
More reason why Russia placed tactical nukes in Belarus. If Poland allows sorties from Poland to bomb Russia and return to land in Poland, then Poland will definitely get hit!

Even US and NATO would advise Poland against such recklessness unless NATO are fully ready to join the war.

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by korede181: 8:46pm On Jun 01, 2023
Tiopii:


Putin miscalculated, no one expected the war to last this long. after the war we would understand better the extent of the losses and it's consequences. Russia as it is isn't a threat anymore in the global scene.
give me the proof where putin estimated a number of days or weeks or years the war was going to take?
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by coke75: 11:24pm On Jun 01, 2023
Badassniggga:
lol it is NATO scared of Russia. Why haven't NATO used the same playbook they used in the Iraq invasion on Russia?
When did NATO invade Iraq?
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 2:10am On Jun 02, 2023
korede181:

give me the proof where putin estimated a number of days or weeks or years the war was going to take?


since English is your problem you shouldn't be here
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:51am On Jun 02, 2023
korede181:

give me the proof where putin estimated a number of days or weeks or years the war was going to take?

USA evil nato propaganda lies media used Milley words and twist it to putin words lol.

Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Kingsnairaland(m): 4:55am On Jun 02, 2023
Tiopii:



since English is your problem you shouldn't be here
USA said Russia will win in three days so that if it passes three days the congress can think that Ukraine will have hope so they can fund the war on Ukraine lol.

Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 3:22pm On Jun 02, 2023
korede181:

give me the proof where putin estimated a number of days or weeks or years the war was going to take?

so miscalculation relates to only span of the war?? pls rest abeg.
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Bossly: 5:03pm On Jun 02, 2023
You neva even see anything. You go cry Taya.

Those western terrorists who enslaved your ancestors must be dealt with. Their crimes against humanity will hunt them forever.

As for Ukraine, that sh¡thole remains destroyed.

Tiopii:


so miscalculation relates to only span of the war?? pls rest abeg.
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Bossly: 2:14pm On Jun 03, 2023
Tiopii:


so miscalculation relates to only span of the war?? pls rest abeg.

You go wail taya 😭😭😭, you neva even start.
lgbtqPEDO terrorists will NEVER dictate to sovereign nations anymore.

Game over b¡tches!

Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 6:05am On Jun 04, 2023
Bossly:





You go wail taya 😭😭😭, you neva even start.
lgbtqPEDO terrorists will NEVER dictate to sovereign nations anymore.

Game over b¡tches!

so decisions of 5 economies at most go take precedence over 50+ economies with the West having bout 9 of the top 10 economies?

you have problem with common sense.

You don't want the US to dictate to other sovereign nations, but you want Russia to dictate to Ukraine, the hypocrisy.
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 6:09am On Jun 04, 2023
mojounited:

More reason why Russia placed tactical nukes in Belarus. If Poland allows sorties from Poland to bomb Russia and return to land in Poland, then Poland will definitely get hit!

Even US and NATO would advise Poland against such recklessness unless NATO are fully ready to join the war.

Russia can't use nukes in Ukraine, take less of Poland, it isn't bout NATO ready to join the war, it is bout what cost Russia is willing to bear.. Russia isn't the only nation with nukes. we are tired of this Nukes narratives.

While it is unlikely that Poland would be used as a Ukraine base, even worse case scenario still no nukes anywhere. Russia can't afford to start hostilities with Poland takeless NATO.
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by mojounited(m): 9:49am On Jun 04, 2023
Tiopii:


Russia can't use nukes in Ukraine, take less of Poland, it isn't bout NATO ready to join the war, it is bout what cost Russia is willing to bear.. Russia isn't the only nation with nukes. we are tired of this Nukes narratives.

While it is unlikely that Poland would be used as a Ukraine base, even worse case scenario still no nukes anywhere. Russia can't afford to start hostilities with Poland takeless NATO.
The US would definitely not allow, Support nor be a party to F-16 sorties to/fro Poland to hit Russia.

If and when that happens, that particular airfield or base the F-16s fly from would be a legitimate target! It is one thing to pass on weapons to Ukraine from Poland, but it is a completely different ball game if you station weapons platform in Poland, take-off and fly from Poland, hit Russia and return to base in Poland. That is an outright declaration of war!

Iskander-M or Kinzhal and other conventional weapons, without a nuclear-tipped warhead, would definitely be used by Russia to hit those airfields / bases in Poland if the above scenario plays out. If you think otherwise then you're naive, because the US would sure distance itself from Poland in that particular scenario...

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 10:11am On Jun 04, 2023
mojounited:

The US would definitely not allow, Support nor be a party to F-16 sorties to/fro Poland to hit Russia.

If and when that happens, that particular airfield or base the F-16s fly from would be a legitimate target! It is one thing to pass on weapons to Ukraine from Poland, but it is a completely different ball game if you station weapons platform in Poland, take-off and fly from Poland, hit Russia and return to base in Poland. That is an outright declaration of war!

Iskander-M or Kinzhal and other conventional weapons, without a nuclear-tipped warhead, would definitely be used by Russia to hit those airfields / bases in Poland if the above scenario plays out. If you think otherwise then you're naive, because the US would sure distance itself from Poland in that particular scenario...

Okay
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Bossly: 10:59am On Jun 04, 2023
Mumu boy, today is a good day to wail profusely. 😭😭😭
Donate more salty tears.

Again, those terrorists who enslaved your ancestors and destroyed millions of lives will perish.
Cry all you like, it will change nothing.

Degenerate lgbtqPEDO satanic demoniacs, will never dictate to sovereign nations anymore.
Game over b¡tches.

Tiopii:


so decisions of 5 economies at most go take precedence over 50+ economies with the West having bout 9 of the top 10 economies?

you have problem with common sense.

You don't want the US to dictate to other sovereign nations, but you want Russia to dictate to Ukraine, the hypocrisy.

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Bossly: 11:03am On Jun 04, 2023
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You neva even start. 🤣

The final collapse of the degenerate West is fast approaching.

Useless fools who were silent during the invasion and destruction of Iraq and others, want to lecture us about Ukraine. 🥱

CURSED FOOLS!
🤮
🤡


Tiopii:


Russia can't use nukes in Ukraine, take less of Poland, it isn't bout NATO ready to join the war, it is bout what cost Russia is willing to bear.. Russia isn't the only nation with nukes. we are tired of this Nukes narratives.

While it is unlikely that Poland would be used as a Ukraine base, even worse case scenario still no nukes anywhere. Russia can't afford to start hostilities with Poland takeless NATO.

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by RiceProducers: 12:09pm On Jun 04, 2023
F16s in Ukraine are a big thing for just the opposite of these reasons the people in.rhis thread who think they know dint know.

There is a set of weaponry, an operational configuration and a suite of operational tactics that kill all the advantages that Russia has in terms of SAMs and other things.
The F16s operating in net centric mode would make Russian SAMs irrelevant and the recent debut of dummy target missiles would just screw up Russian systems.

This has probably been practised over and over by the newly trained pilots or if you are too naive to understand it, retired NATO pilots recruited for Ukraine.
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 7:27pm On Jun 04, 2023
Bossly:
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The final collapse of the degenerate West is fast approaching.

Useless fools who were silent during the invasion and destruction of Iraq and others, want to lecture us about Ukraine. 🥱

CURSED FOOLS!
🤮
🤡




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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Tiopii: 7:29pm On Jun 04, 2023
Bossly:
Mumu boy, today is a good day to wail profusely. 😭😭😭
Donate more salty tears.

Again, those terrorists who enslaved your ancestors and destroyed millions of lives will perish.
Cry all you like, it will change nothing.

Degenerate lgbtqPEDO satanic demoniacs, will never dictate to sovereign nations anymore.
Game over b¡tches.



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Don't cry yet na, Let the Ukraine counter offensive start proper.

Russia is the US bi+ch
Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:52pm On Jun 04, 2023
Bossly:
More premium tears 😭
You neva even start. 🤣

The final collapse of the degenerate West is fast approaching.

Useless fools who were silent during the invasion and destruction of Iraq and others, want to lecture us about Ukraine. 🥱

CURSED FOOLS!
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Biden thought the world will back him up against Russia not knowing

Nato cup is full lol.

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Re: Can F-16s Fly Combat Sorties Over Ukraine? — A Discussion by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:55pm On Jun 04, 2023
Tiopii:



The fact you're cussing shows you're in the Fourth stage of grief, and that's depression.

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Slava Ukraini!

Lol Czech president said Slava Ukraine is like the same slogan Hitler used in war lol.

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