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Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 10:20am On May 28, 2023
TenQ:

I agree with you. They don't want the Muslim or the reader to be able to do an independent search so that he is fixated on other things than the original question causing the problem.

You will also note that when they translate their Tafsirs, sometimes they just truncate a large part of the discuss to present only the agreeable part.


Most of their problematic books also have not being translated into English.


Indeed, Islam is a religion based on deception. They DECEIVE themselves just as the try to DECEIVE others

Hmmmmmm. The bolded is weighty.

Yet, people like antichristian, legalwolf, drlateef, etc are earnestly praying to die as Muslims in spite of this obvious deception.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 2:11pm On May 28, 2023
FxMasterz:


Hmmmmmm. The bolded is weighty.

Yet, people like antichristian, legalwolf, drlateef, etc are earnestly praying to die as Muslims in spite of this obvious deception.
You'll note that all these your friends gra-gra has reduced on Nairaland. It is difficult fighting against the truth when good EVIDENCES are attached.

What better evidence can one use against Islam? The Qur'an, the Tafsirs, the Hadiths and Books from their Scholars.

Good cannot be defended with lies as it is not necessary! Unfortunately, Islam has to be defended with lies to stand!
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 4:45pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:

You'll note that all these your friends gra-gra has reduced on Nairaland. It is difficult fighting against the truth when good EVIDENCES are attached.

What better evidence can one use against Islam? The Qur'an, the Tafsirs, the Hadiths and Books from their Scholars.

Good cannot be defended with lies as it is not necessary! Unfortunately, Islam has to be defended with lies to stand!

Yes, I noticed that they've mellowed down for some weeks now. I'm even begining to think that legalwolf has left Nairaland.

They should just have their own individual reflections and open themselves up to truth. Loyalty to a religion is useless. No religion saves, including Christianity. The only Person who saves is Jesus.

They should look away from religion and find Jesus because Jesus is always eager to manifest Himself to those who seek Him. Mohammed on the other hand is dead. His fate is eternally sealed. No amount of PBUH that Muslims send to him on a daily basis can save him. He was migthily used of Satan to send many people to hell. And those people went gladly until they came face to face with reality in the hereafter.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by LegalWolf: 6:23pm On May 28, 2023
FxMasterz:


Yes, I noticed that they've mellowed down for some weeks now. I'm even begining to think that legalwolf has left Nairaland.

They should just have their own individual reflections and open themselves up to truth. Loyalty to a religion is useless. No religion saves, including Christianity. The only Person who saves is Jesus.

They should look away from religion and find Jesus because Jesus is always eager to manifest Himself to those who seek Him. Mohammed on the other hand is dead. His fate is eternally sealed. No amount of PBUH that Muslims send to him on a daily basis can save him. He was migthily used of Satan to send many people to hell. And those people went gladly until they came face to face with reality in the hereafter.

Lol! Look at the adamantly dull fella that claimed the Samaritans are not existing is even having the audacity to talk… or are you not the one who claimed the above?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 6:50pm On May 28, 2023
LegalWolf:


Lol! Look at the adamantly dull fella that claimed the Samaritans are not existing is even having the audacity to talk… or are you not the one who claimed the above?
Keep deceiving yourself. I even thought you left Nairaland. I just pray that one day, your eyes would open. And if you love deception this much, ignore all the red flags and embrace the same destination that Mohammed has outlined for you.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by LegalWolf: 7:16pm On May 28, 2023
FxMasterz:

Keep deceiving yourself. I even thought you left Nairaland. I just pray that one day, your eyes would open. And if you love deception this much, ignore all the red flags and embrace the same destination that Mohammed has outlined for you.


Lol, your prayer cannot work. You know why? Your “god” could not even convert his tribesmen who saw him, heard him, dined with him two thousand years ago…. How on earth will he make me believe ?


Is it not dumbness? Your god is the first god in the history of humanity that is not worshipped by his own people . Give me ONE reason why I should take him as a god rather than a human just like myself?

Cc: Future thief TenQ 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by LegalWolf: 7:20pm On May 28, 2023
Hey FxMasterz

Did you not claim that King David, Solomon and the likes never heard the word Samaritan before? Without any explicit proof?

And you expect me to be engaging an hopelessly, adamantly and ignorant fella? Ehn? Humour me please 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cc: potential theif TenQ ooooo
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 7:48pm On May 28, 2023
FxMasterz:


Yes, I noticed that they've mellowed down for some weeks now. I'm even begining to think that legalwolf has left Nairaland.

They should just have their own individual reflections and open themselves up to truth. Loyalty to a religion is useless. No religion saves, including Christianity. The only Person who saves is Jesus.

They should look away from religion and find Jesus because Jesus is always eager to manifest Himself to those who seek Him. Mohammed on the other hand is dead. His fate is eternally sealed. No amount of PBUH that Muslims send to him on a daily basis can save him. He was mightily used of Satan to send many people to hell. And those people went gladly until they came face to face with reality in the hereafter.
LegalWolf has not left Nairaland.
He rarely comments now as his gra-gra has been met with so many shameful informations about Mohammed, Allah, the Quran and the religion of Islam that he cannot refute without looking stupid.

His usual strategy of occupying space by writing unrelated and uncoordinated spams is painfully obvious to both Muslims and Christians: the Muslims who want an answer are put off as they are not helped by his meaningless rhetorics.

I guess some people wiser than him advised him to keep quiet as silence is sometimes golden.

For the others, they find it strange that Christians are finding information with undeniable proofs against their esteemed religion. Some ot the topics need no further debate as it is a losing battle.

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Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 8:02pm On May 28, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hey FxMasterz

Did you not claim that King David, Solomon and the likes never heard the word Samaritan before? Without any explicit proof?

And you expect me to be engaging an hopelessly, adamantly and ignorant fella? Ehn? Humour me please 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cc: potential theif TenQ ooooo
Unfortunately, you don't know that Northern Israel was also known as Samaria, or Ephraim or the northern kingdom
after the United Israel was divided into TWO kingdoms in the days of Solomon's Son Rehoboam. The Northern kingdom consist of 10 tribes of Israel while the southern kingdom consisted of just two tribes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehoboam
2 Chronicles 10–12,
1 Kings 12 and
1 Kings 14:21-31

Read up if you like: SMH!

No shame!
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 8:08pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:

Unfortunately, you don't know that Northern Israel was also known as Samaria, or Ephraim or the northern kingdom
after the United Israel was divided into TWO kingdoms in the days of Solomon's Son Rehoboam. The Northern kingdom consist of 10 tribes of Israel while the southern kingdom consisted of just two tribes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehoboam
2 Chronicles 10–12,
1 Kings 12 and
1 Kings 14:21-31

Read up if you like: SMH!

No shame!

He won't listen. He's satisfied with the lies he's being fed with. To him, Mohammed knows Israel better than the Israelites themselves. SMH.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 8:13pm On May 28, 2023
FxMasterz:


He won't listen. He's satisfied with the lies he's being fed with. To him, Mohammed knows Israel better than the Israelites themselves. SMH.
Ask LegalWolf to ask ChatGPT if the Samaritans existed at the time of Moses: he will dodge you like a plague.
They hate the truth with a passion: anything that would make Islam look good is welcome!
SMH!
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 8:14pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:

LegalWolf has not left Nairaland.
He rarely comments now as his gra-gra has been met with so many shameful informations about Mohammed, Allah, the Quran and the religion of Islam that he cannot refute without looking stupid.

His usual strategy of occupying space by writing unrelated and uncoordinated spams is painfully obvious to both Muslims and Christians: the Muslims who want an answer are put off as they are not helped by his meaningless rhetorics.

I guess some people wiser than him advised him to keep quiet as silence is sometimes golden.

For the others, they find it strange that Christians are finding information with undeniable proofs against their esteemed religion. Some ot the topics need no further debate as it is a losing battle.

Hahahah.

I always laugh when I see his comedic posts as he dances about on your threads making no meaningful contribution except to be hurling insults and be embellishing your Monika in the most shameful manner.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 8:17pm On May 28, 2023
[quote author=TenQ post=123427796]
Ask LegalWolf to ask ChatGPT if the Samaritans existed at the time of Moses: he will dodge you like a plague.
They hate the truth with a passion: anything that would make Islam look good is welcome!
SMH![quote]

Their loyalty is to Islam. Their souls have no value to them. They do not care.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 8:18pm On May 28, 2023
FxMasterz:

Hahahah.

I always laugh when I see his comedic posts as he dances about on your threads making no meaningful contribution except to be hurling insults and be embellishing your Monika in the most shameful manner.
I even told him that he was making my case but he couldnt reason it out.

His strategy of occupying space by writing unrelated and uncoordinated spams is painfully obvious to both Muslims and Christians.
What he didn't know was that the Muslims who want a good rebuttal are put off as they are not helped by his meaningless rhetorics.

Of course for a long time, he learnt nothing
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 8:20pm On May 28, 2023
[quote author=FxMasterz post=123427876][/quote]
Still the more reason to realize that the god of this world has imprisoned them and bound them with chains that intelectual confrontation and even conviction alone will not help.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by LegalWolf: 8:26pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:

Ask LegalWolf to ask ChatGPT if the Samaritans existed at the time of Moses: he will dodge you like a plague.
They hate the truth with a passion: anything that would make Islam look good is welcome!
SMH!

Lol! How did I get myself into this circus of rabid mob 🤣🤣🤣. So ChatGPT is the now the standard reference for a point to you lots!


Imbecilic mor0n!

Cc: FxMasterz and future thief TenQ 💃🏽🤣💃🏽💃🏽
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by LegalWolf: 8:31pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:

Unfortunately, you don't know that Northern Israel was also known as Samaria, or Ephraim or the northern kingdom
after the United Israel was divided into TWO kingdoms in the days of Solomon's Son Rehoboam. The Northern kingdom consist of 10 tribes of Israel while the southern kingdom consisted of just two tribes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehoboam
2 Chronicles 10–12,
1 Kings 12 and
1 Kings 14:21-31

Read up if you like: SMH!

No shame!

Lol! Adamant, ignorant and foolish!

At least you accepted at a point that the Samaritans existed long before the time of Jesus. I’m conversant with EVERY part of Kings you referenced.

My question is: what do you even know about the ethnic-religious group called Samaritans and WHY should we have preference for the OT’s account of their history over theirs?

You’re a Nigerian right? do you prefer the British/European version of your history over that of your ancestors?

Cc: TenQ the future theif ooo
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by LegalWolf: 8:33pm On May 28, 2023
[quote author=FxMasterz post=123427876][/quote]

Lol! Why did you avoid the question about your God being able to salvage his family and ethnic group like plague? A whole god ooooo


Cc: Future thief TenQ
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by LegalWolf: 9:12pm On May 28, 2023
Hey my nemesis future theif TenQ and FxMasterz

It just occurred to me that today is Sabbath, and I’ve broken it. My bad 😞! yhwh who worked his ass off for six days and ordered this would be furious. I’ve committed a grace sin equivalent to Kun fa yakun 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Anyways, I’ll be watching inauguration tomorrow and busy with some other things.

Thank you for your time. Till when some other time. And in the meantime, I’ll be begging yhwh to forgive me 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hugs 🫂! From your one and only wolf who hunts doves mentioned in Luke 3
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 9:14pm On May 28, 2023
LegalWolf:


Lol! Why did you avoid the question about your God being able to salvage his family and ethnic group like plague? A whole god ooooo


Cc: Future thief TenQ
Why should I respond to you whose god allah is satan in the shape of a young man with green dress not much different from the Dajjal except that he has two eyes while Dajjal has only one?
Why should I be bothered by your god Allah who is the slave of Mohammed and is a transformer-like shape shifting disabled personality with two right hands on his right shoulder and no left hand?

If I lie: here is the evidence below

You wanted a spanking, here you have it

TenQ:
Muslims are quick to claim that Allah is Indescribable and that nothing can be compared with him. This argument is used especially when they try to show that Allah cannot incarnate into a human form as claimed by Christians that God the Word became a Human incarnate as Christ Jesus.

Here, I want to show how Allah is indeed indescribable through his many shapes.

1. Allah: who has two Right Hands on his right shoulder

Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379 : Book 49, Hadith 1: Vol. 6, Book 49, Hadith 5381
Graduation: Sahih


Here we see that one of the distinguishing characteristics is that Allah does NOT have a left hand but he has two hands BOTH on his right shoulder. You will note that apart from in birth defects, there is no being like this.

The Origin of this hadith:
The Jews were found of tricking Mohammed with bogus narrations from their religion which the unlearned Mohammed will incorporate into his religion. This is one of them. They described to Mohammed the power of God and Mohammed added even to their narratives


2. Allah: with proper Left and Right Hands

Abdullah b. 'Umar reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) saying:
Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, would fold the Heavens on the Day of Judgment and then He would place them on His right hand and say: I am the Lord; where are the haughty and where are the proud (today)? He would fold the' earth (placing it) on the left hand and say: I am the Lord; where are the haughty and where are the proud (today)?
Sahih Muslim 2788a: Book 52, Hadith 7
Graduation: Sahih



Here we see that sometimes, Allah can have his two hands on both his left and right shoulders especially on the day of judgement. In other words, except Mohammed is fabricating narrations about Allah, Muslims should be confused about recognizing their Allah.

3. Allah: who looks like the Da'jjal (with the exception of the eye)

‘Ubadah ibn al-Samit reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Verily, I have told you so much about the False Messiah that I fear you will not understand. Verily, the False Messiah is a short man, pigeon toed, curly haired, with one eye that is blind, neither protruding nor sunken. If you are confused about him, then know that your Lord does not have one eye.”
Source: Sunan Abī Dāwūd 4320
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani


It is amazing that Mohammed did not compare the false Messiah with the real Messiah. He compared Da'jjal with Allah AND it seems that the basic difference is that Allah is not one eyed. The Da'jjal is short, fat AND one eyed

4. Allah: who is a Young Man
Mohammed claimed:

"I saw my Lord in the form of a young man having plenty of curly hair in a green dress."

Narrator: [/b]Abdullah bin Abbas | The narrator: Ibn Taymiyyah |
[b]Source:
Statement of Dressing the Jahmiyyah,
page or number: 7/290
| A summary of the hadeeth’s verdict: Sahih
Graduation: It was included by Ibn Uday in ((Al-Kamil fi Al-Du’afa’) (2/260), Al-Bayhaqi in ((The Names and Attributes)) (938), and Ibn Al-Jawzi in ((The Infinite Illnesses)) (16) with a slight difference


Let me also give you the Arabic link
https://www.dorar.net/h/9k1WPsJH

Here Mohammed compared his Allah with a YOUNG man with curly hair. Who are those Muslims still insisting that there is nothing comparable to Allah! Is it their wishful thinking?

5. Allah: who is yet Unknown but another form with covered a "shin"

Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 532
Narrated Anas:

The Prophet said, "The believers will be kept (waiting) on the Day of Resurrection so long that they will become worried and say, "Let us ask somebody to intercede far us with our Lord so that He may relieve us from our place.
....

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 532s:
...
Let every nation follow what they used to worship,' and now we are waiting for our Lord.' Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say , 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, 'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation.
.....


Here we see Allah coming to Muslims in ANOTHER shape which Muslims feel is beneath Allah . If not because Allah showed the Muslim his legs, they would have rejected their God.

Conclusion:
You can see that it seems the reason why Allah is Indescribable is simply because he transforms into several shapes and forms so that it is difficult to pin him down to one shape


LegalWolf,
You never learn!

Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 9:19pm On May 28, 2023
LegalWolf:


Lol! Adamant, ignorant and foolish!

At least you accepted at a point that the Samaritans existed long before the time of Jesus. I’m conversant with EVERY part of Kings you referenced.

My question is: what do you even know about the ethnic-religious group called Samaritans and WHY should we have preference for the OT’s account of their history over theirs?

You’re a Nigerian right? do you prefer the British/European version of your history over that of your ancestors?

Cc: TenQ the future theif ooo
As Stubborn as a Billy Goat!
The Challenge was for evidence, You've gotten it.

Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 10:13pm On May 28, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hey my nemesis future theif TenQ and FxMasterz

It just occurred to me that today is Sabbath, and I’ve broken it. My bad 😞! yhwh who worked his ass off for six days and ordered this would be furious. I’ve committed a grace sin equivalent to Kun fa yakun 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Anyways, I’ll be watching inauguration tomorrow and busy with some other things.
Thank you for your time. Till when some other time. And in the meantime, I’ll be begging yhwh to forgive me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hugs 🫂! From your one and only wolf who hunts doves mentioned in Luke 3
If Your Allah isn't satan, why did he turn Jews into Monkeys for fishing on Saturday when he was the one who prevented fishes from surfacing during the week but only on saturday?

Tafsir ibn kathir Quran (7:163)
(And indeed you knew). This Ayah means, O Jews! Remember that Allah sent His torment on the village that disobeyed Him and broke their pledge and their covenant to observe the sanctity of the Sabbath. They began using deceitful means to avoid honoring the Sabbath by placing nets, ropes and artificial pools of water for the purpose of fishing before the Sabbath. When the fish came in abundance on Saturday as usual, they were caught in the ropes and nets for the rest of Saturday. During the night, the Jews collected the fish after the Sabbath ended. When they did that, Allah changed them from humans into monkeys, the animals having the form closest to humans. Their evil deeds and deceit appeared lawful on the surface, but they were in reality wicked. This is why their punishment was compatible with their crime. This story is explained in detail in Surat Al-A`raf, where Allah said:
(And ask them (O Muhammad ) about the town that was by the sea; when they transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath (i.e. Saturday): when their fish came to them openly on the Sabbath day, and did not come to them on the day they had no Sabbath. Thus We made a trial of them, for they used to rebel (disobey Allah).)
(We said to them: "Be you monkeys, despised and rejected"wink means, "Allah changed their bodies into those of monkeys and swines. The young people turned into monkeys while the old people turned into swine." Shayban An-Nahwi reported that Qatadah commented on,
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 10:27pm On May 28, 2023
LegalWolf,
Please help me to explain this hadith

Sahih Muslim 1453c: Book 17, Hadith 35
Ibn Abu Mulaika reported that al-Qasim b. Muhammad b. Abu Bakr had narrated to him that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail b. 'Amr came to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) and said:

Messenger of Allah, Salim (the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa) is living with us in our house, and he has attained (puberty) as men attain it and has acquired knowledge (of the sex problems) as men acquire, whereupon he (Mohammed) said: Suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard to marriage) for you He (Ibn Abu Mulaika) said: I refrained from (narrating this hadith) for a year or so on account of fear. I then met al-Qasim and said to him: You narrated to me a hadith which I did not narrate (to anyone) afterwards. He said: What is that? I informed him, whereupon he said: Narrate it on my authority that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) had narrated that to me.

Question:
1. Where did Muhammad receive his command for breastfeeding adult males?
2. Where is the Quran on Breastfeeding Adult males?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by 43Ronin: 10:47pm On May 28, 2023
bros TenQ, 10Q for putting them wahabis in their place. I remeber when antichristIan just dey bé. ever since you showcase the manchi don pin. be like him alfa advice am to fall Islam hand. press their neck bro we go keep your page alive
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by 43Ronin: 11:02pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:

Why should I respond to you whose god allah is satan in the shape of a young man with green dress not much different from the Dajjal except that he has two eyes while Dajjal has only one?
Why should I be bothered by your god Allah who is the slave of Mohammed and is a transformer-like shape shifting disabled personality with two right hands on his right shoulder and no left hand?

If I lie: here is the evidence below

You wanted a spanking, here you have it


LegalWolf,
You never learn!
wait na Allah be like Goro. TenQ no go kee person grin
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 11:06pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:
Mr AntiChristian,
If we ask you now, you can't speak Arabic: you are very ignorant of what your Islamic Scholars says.

All you can say is to make fun of Google-translate. Unfortunately, the chain that hook your leg is more than one.


Your argument failed: I'm sure you'll still say I have gone to David Wood to ask for rebuttal.



1. Several Qur'an translations use the word AORTA for ٱلْوَتِينَ (I-watina)
2. Translation by Sunnah.com of
Sunan Abi Dawud 4512: Book 41, Hadith 19
translations use the word AORTA for abhari (al-abhar)

3. You AntiChristian says "Al-Wateen used in the Qur'an verse is not the same as Al-Abhar" but then you went on to claim that "So in essense, Al-Wateen is part of Al-Abhar."

4. Your Islamic website agree that Al-Wateen and Al-Abhar are used synonymously.
https://www.call-to-monotheism.com/prophet_muhammad__peace_be_upon_him__and_the_taking_of_poison

5. Google translate of أَبْهَرِي (qataeat 'abhari) as used in Sunan Abi Dawud 4512 says YOU CUT MY AORTA

If your Islamic Scholars translate both Al-Wateen and Al-Abhar mean AORTA, how is that my Problem!

Please find another excuse!


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The person arguing with you in the Arabic language of his religion is doing so for argument sake. As far as the revealed language of the Bible is lost , what is your problem with the revealed language of Islam holy Book? Your efforts to corrupt it is dead on arrival as long as you are illetrate of it.
Was it Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek languages in which LIE AND VAIN have similar meaning as their translations to ENGLISH in the Bible Jeremiah 8:8 as you and I have qouted ?
This is your holy Bible linguistics problem, courtesy of interpolation, adulteration and infiltration, you have been unable to answer, but find pleasure in arguing with other religion language of revelation.
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by LegalWolf: 11:27pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:

Why should I respond to you whose god allah is satan in the shape of a young man with green dress not much different from the Dajjal except that he has two eyes while Dajjal has only one?
Why should I be bothered by your god Allah who is the slave of Mohammed and is a transformer-like shape shifting disabled personality with two right hands on his right shoulder and no left hand?

If I lie: here is the evidence below

You wanted a spanking, here you have it


LegalWolf,
You never learn!

Hahahaha future thief o
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by LegalWolf: 11:29pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:

As Stubborn as a Billy Goat!
The Challenge was for evidence, You've gotten it.


Hahahaha future thief!!! What evidence is this? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

You’re a mor0n!
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by gaskiyamagana: 11:32pm On May 28, 2023
TenQ:
LegalWolf,
Please help me to explain this hadith

Sahih Muslim 1453c: Book 17, Hadith 35
Ibn Abu Mulaika reported that al-Qasim b. Muhammad b. Abu Bakr had narrated to him that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Sahla bint Suhail b. 'Amr came to Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) and said:

Messenger of Allah, Salim (the freed slave of Abu Hudhaifa) is living with us in our house, and he has attained (puberty) as men attain it and has acquired knowledge (of the sex problems) as men acquire, whereupon he (Mohammed) said: Suckle him so that he may become unlawful (in regard to marriage) for you He (Ibn Abu Mulaika) said: I refrained from (narrating this hadith) for a year or so on account of fear. I then met al-Qasim and said to him: You narrated to me a hadith which I did not narrate (to anyone) afterwards. He said: What is that? I informed him, whereupon he said: Narrate it on my authority that 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) had narrated that to me.

Question:
1. Where did Muhammad receive his command for breastfeeding adult males?
2. Where is the Quran on Breastfeeding Adult males?

TenQ , please help your other fellow Christians to defend CONTRADICTIONS in the following verses:
1 "I was sent to the LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL " MATHEWS 15:24.

2. "........ GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL " MATHEWS 10:5-6.

These 2 verses VERSUS the below 2 verses.
3. "..........GO INTO ALL THE WORLD AND PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL TO THE WHOLE CREATION" MARK 16:5.
4. " AS YOU HAVE SENT ME INTO THE WORLD, I HAVE SENT THEM INTO THE WORLD" JOHN 17:18.
In the above verses, Mission Coverage of Jesus and his disciples is muddled: lost sheep of the house of Israel, the world, whole creation, which is which?
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 8:34am On May 29, 2023
I had answered your questions at least twice now unfortunately, it wouldn't upload probably because of the attachments. The second time was on sunday morning. Notwithstanding, here is your response again
gaskiyamagana:

The person arguing with you in the Arabic language of his religion is doing so for argument sake. As far as the revealed language of the Bible is lost , what is your problem with the revealed language of Islam holy Book? Your efforts to corrupt it is dead on arrival as long as you are illetrate of it.
Was it Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek languages in which LIE AND VAIN have similar meaning as their translations to ENGLISH in the Bible Jeremiah 8:8 as you and I have qouted ?
This is your holy Bible linguistics problem, courtesy of interpolation, adulteration and infiltration, you have been unable to answer, but find pleasure in arguing with other religion language of revelation.
It is a blatant lie to say that the revealed language of the bible is lost
1. The Bible was not revealed as the Quran: human beings wrote the bible
2. Almost all the Books of the Old Testament was Written in Hebrew with the exception of Ezra and Daniel which was written in Aramaic. Aramaic (related to Hebrew language) was the language spoken by the Jews during and after their slavery in Babylon till the time of Jesus (Aramaic was like pidgin English while Hebrew was used in the Temple and in Worship).
3. The New Testament was Written in Greek because Greek was the lingua franca of the Eastern Mediterranean during that time period. Greek was widely spoken and understood, and it served as a common language for trade, commerce, and communication across different regions.

a. Aramaic language till today is primarily spoken by communities of Assyrian, Chaldean, and Syriac Christians in different parts of the Middle East, particularly in Iraq, Syria, Iran, and Turkey.
b. Hebrew language till today is spoken in Israel
c. Greek is still spoken till today as the official language of Greece and Cyprus.

Are these languages still lost?

You Said:
"Your efforts to corrupt it is dead on arrival as long as you are illiterate of it."
My Response:
If you check carefully, I mainly use Islamic literatures to disprove Islam. I use your Quran, Tafsirs, Hadiths and other Books from your trusted and respected Islamic Scholars. If you check carefully, I dont even use Ahmadiyah literatures or literatures from the Shia Muslims to disprove Islam. I use mainly Sunni Muslim Sources. Why? Because 95% of Muslims in Nigeria are Sunni Muslims.


I am not corrupting the Quran, I am exposing the lies behind it!

You said:
What is your problem with the revealed language of Islam holy Book?

My Response:
I have no problem with Arabic language in which the Quran was written. Arabic is a Semitic language just like Hebrew and Aramaic.
I have problems only with LIES told in the name of God.
Since the Quran itself according to you Muslims is the direct words of Allah, I then perform basic tests that the Almighty cannot fail.
When I prove from the Quran that Allah's level of knowledge does not surpass that of the average Arab living at the time of Mohammed, I conclude that the author of the Quran cannot be God but an ordinary man doing 419 with Gods name.


I have no problem with arabic, it is r the only language understood by Allah!
LOL!!

You said:
Was it Aramaic, Hebrew, Latin or Greek languages in which LIE AND VAIN have similar meaning as their translations to ENGLISH in the Bible Jeremiah 8:8 as you and I have quoted ?

My Response:
In Jeremiah 8:8, The Hebrew words used as vain in the KJV are
לַשֶּׁ֣קֶר (laš·še·qer) MEANING lie, lie to, bluff, deceive, liar, liars, fool, tell, falsely, falsehood, false, deception
שֶׁ֥קֶר (še·qer) MEANING lie, liar. lied, cold, falsehood, false, lying, fake, untrue, not true, fib, bullshit, perjury
https://context.reverso.net/translation/hebrew-english/

"Bullshit" can also refer to the act of making false statements or engaging in deceptive or insincere communication. It implies that the information being presented lacks truthfulness, integrity, or substance. Which was presented as VAIN

The Strong's Exhaustive Concordance translates (98266) לַשֶּׁ֣קֶר and שֶׁ֥קֶר as:
without a cause, deceitful, falsehood feignedly, liar, lie, lying, vain thing, wrongfully
From shaqar; an untruth; by implication, a sham (often adverbial) -- without a cause, deceit(-ful), false(-hood, -ly), feignedly, liar, + lie, lying, vain (thing), wrongfully.

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/8266.htm

I personally think that the strongest TRANSLATION of the Hebrew words (98266) לַשֶּׁ֣קֶר and שֶׁ֥קֶר should be closer to lie, liar. lied, falsehood, false, lying, fake, untrue, not true, perjury rather than fib or bullshit, . I don't know why KJV used the inconspicuous meaning as most translations used what I consider as the salient meaning.

Here are other translations of Jeremiah 8:8

King James Bible
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
New International Version
“’How can you say, “We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD,” when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?
New Living Translation
“‘How can you say, “We are wise because we have the word of the LORD,” when your teachers have twisted it by writing lies?
English Standard Version
“How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.
Berean Standard Bible
How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the Law of the LORD is with us,’ when in fact the lying pen of the scribes has produced a deception?
New King James Version
“How can you say, ‘We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us’? Look, the false pen of the scribe certainly works falsehood.
New American Standard Bible
“How can you say, ‘We are wise, And the Law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie.
NASB 1995
“How can you say, ‘We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie.
NASB 1977
“How can you say, ‘We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie.
Legacy Standard Bible
“How can you say, ‘We are wise, And the law of Yahweh is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie.
Amplified Bible
“How can you say, ‘We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us [and we are learned in its language and teachings]’? Behold, [the truth is that] the lying pen of the scribes Has made the law into a lie [a mere code of ceremonial observances].
Christian Standard Bible
“How can you claim, ‘We are wise; the law of the LORD is with us’? In fact, the lying pen of scribes has produced falsehood.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
“How can you claim, ‘We are wise; the law of the LORD is with us? In fact, the lying pen of scribes has produced falsehood.
American Standard Version
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of Jehovah is with us? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes hath wrought falsely.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
How do you say: ‘We are wise and the Law of LORD JEHOVAH is with us?’ Truly the lying pen of the Scribes is made for falsehood!
Brenton Septuagint Translation
How will ye say, We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us? In vain have the scribes used a false pen.
Contemporary English Version
You say, "We are wise because we have the teachings and laws of the LORD." But I say that your teachers have turned my words into lies!
Douay-Rheims Bible
How do you say: We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us? Indeed the lying pen of the scribes hath wrought falsehood.
English Revised Version
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes hath wrought falsely.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
" 'How can you say that you are wise and that you have the LORD's teachings? The scribes have used their pens to turn these teachings into lies.
Good News Translation
How can you say that you are wise and that you know my laws? Look, the laws have been changed by dishonest scribes.
International Standard Version
How can you say, 'We're wise, and the Law of the LORD is with us,' when, in fact, the deceitful pen of the scribe has made it into something that deceives.
JPS Tanakh 1917
How do ye say: 'We are wise, And the Law of the LORD is with us'? Lo, certainly in vain hath wrought The vain pen of the scribes.
Literal Standard Version
How do you say, We [are] wise, | And the Law of YHWH [is] with us? Surely, behold, it has worked falsely, | The false pen of scribes.
Majority Standard Bible
How can you say, ‘We are wise, and the Law of the LORD is with us,’ when in fact the lying pen of the scribes has produced a deception?
New American Bible
How can you say, “We are wise, we have the law of the LORD”? See, that has been changed into falsehood by the lying pen of the scribes!
NET Bible
How can you say, "We are wise! We have the law of the LORD"? The truth is, those who teach it have used their writings to make it say what it does not really mean.
New Revised Standard Version
How can you say, “We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us,” when, in fact, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie?
New Heart English Bible
How can you say, "We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us?" But, look, the false pen of the scribes has worked falsely.
Webster's Bible Translation
How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain he hath made it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
World English Bible
“‘How do you say, “We are wise, and Yahweh’s law is with us?” But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made that a lie.
Young's Literal Translation
How do ye say, We are wise, And the law of Jehovah is with us? Surely, lo, falsely it hath wrought, The false pen of scribes.


https://biblehub.com/jeremiah/8-8.htm


I have shown you my opinion of how the two words VAIN and LIE/FALSEHOOD with evidence that you can crosscheck.
I have attached the interlinear translation of Jeremiah 8:8

Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by TenQ: 8:34am On May 29, 2023
gaskiyamagana:


TenQ , please help your other fellow Christians to defend CONTRADICTIONS in the following verses:
1 "I was sent to the LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL " MATHEWS 15:24.

2. "........ GO RATHER TO THE LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL " MATHEWS 10:5-6.

These 2 verses VERSUS the below 2 verses.
3. "..........GO INTO ALL THE WORLD AND PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL TO THE WHOLE CREATION" MARK 16:5.
4. " AS YOU HAVE SENT ME INTO THE WORLD, I HAVE SENT THEM INTO THE WORLD" JOHN 17:18.
In the above verses, Mission Coverage of Jesus and his disciples is muddled: lost sheep of the house of Israel, the world, whole creation, which is which?
I guess you do not know the meaning of a contradiction.
A contradiction would be
Statement 1: "I was sent to the lost Sheep of the House of Israel!"
Statement 2: "I was NOT sent to the lost Sheep of the House of Israel!"

These two statements above would be contradictions.
However,
The verses you mentioned, Matthew 10:5-6 and John 17:18, do present differing scopes of Jesus' mission.

SHORT ANSWER:
1. While Jesus was Alive, His ministry was to the House of Israel and He sent His Disciples to preach in Israel
2. After the Death and Resurrection of Christ, His ministry was to the World and He sent His Disciples to preach to the whole World



LONG ANSWER:
Let's examine these Scriptures:
In Matthew 10:5-6, Jesus is speaking to His disciples and instructs them as follows:
"These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: 'Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel.'"

Here, Jesus specifically directs His disciples to focus their mission on the "lost sheep of Israel" and not to venture among the Gentiles or Samaritans. This can be seen as a limited scope of the mission at that particular time.

On the other hand, in John 17:18, Jesus is praying to God the Father just before His crucifixion, and He says:
"As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world."

In this context,
Jesus is referring to His disciples and expresses that just as God sent Him into the world, He is sending His disciples into the world.
This broader statement suggests a mission that encompasses more than just the lost sheep of Israel.

While there may appear to be a contradiction between these verses, it is important to consider the different contexts in which they were spoken. Matthew 10:5-6 reflects a specific instruction to the disciples at a particular moment, emphasizing their initial mission among the Jewish people. John 17:18, on the other hand, expresses a broader understanding of the disciples' mission and their subsequent role in spreading the message to the world.

In Christian theology, these passages are reconciled by interpreting the initial focus on the lost sheep of Israel in Matthew 10:5-6 as part of a gradual unfolding of the mission, which eventually encompassed all nations as depicted in John 17:18 and the Great Commission given later in Matthew 28:19-20.

Overall, these statements can be understood in light of different stages and aspects of Jesus' mission and the progression of the early Christian movement.


Finally, Jesus did exactly the same with His disciples
1. Stay in Jerusalem until you are endowed with power
Lk 24:49
“And now I will send the Holy Spirit, just as my Father promised. But stay here in the city until the Holy Spirit comes and fills you with power from heaven.”
2. Only after this can they expand and go into all the world
Acts 1:8
But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.


Sorry Bro!
Re: The Proof that Allah Killed Muhammad For Falsifying The Quran? by FxMasterz: 2:58pm On May 29, 2023
LegalWolf:
Hey FxMasterz

Did you not claim that King David, Solomon and the likes never heard the word Samaritan before? Without any explicit proof?

And you expect me to be engaging an hopelessly, adamantly and ignorant fella? Ehn? Humour me please 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cc: potential theif TenQ ooooo
The more you post, the more you display your ignorance. Why not read up on the texts TenQ referred you to? Do your soul some good, even if it would be for once.

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