The West won't like this at all, particularly the paranoid US.The idiots felt sanctions would incapacitate Iran and North Korea in their armoury acquisition capabilities and socioeconomically,but the reverse is the case.Iran has finally joined the list of nations possessing hypersonic missiles.
The US government won't have a proper sleep for months to come.

Antiochus:
According to pentagon "Iran has the largest and most diverse missile programme in the Middle East" . I think Israel and America is worried now.

Lol! Exactly my point.They won't have a proper sleep for a long time to come.

Israel is telling them to bring it on

Onyiiobi7735:
The West won't like this at all, particularly the paranoid US.The idiots felt sanctions would incapacitate Iran and North Korea in their armoury acquisition capabilities and socioeconomically,but the reverse is the case.Iran has finally joined the list of nations possessing hypersonic missiles.
The US government won't have a proper sleep for months to come.

If Iran has hypersonic then it was probably provided by Russia and China.
The west which we all thought was smart is actually extremely dumb and has sanctioned way too many countries which is the same with sanctioning it's self.
The sanctioned or antagonised countries have come together and have opened the way to a multipolar world with alternatives to western dominance.

Not it's first, but first home made . Stop confusing the crowd.

Stoplying:

If Iran has hypersonic then it was probably provided by Russia and China.
The west which we all thought was smart is actually extremely dumb and has sanctioned way too many countries which is the same with sanctioning it's self.
The sanctioned or antagonised countries have come together and have opened the way to a multipolar world with alternatives to western dominance.

True.Russia and China are the reason, the West can never dominate other nations socioeconomically and politically.

Onyiiobi7735:
The West won't like this at all, particularly the paranoid US.The idiots felt sanctions would incapacitate Iran and North Korea in their armoury acquisition capabilities and socioeconomically,but the reverse is the case.Iran has finally joined the list of nations possessing hypersonic missiles.
The US government won't have a proper sleep for months to come.

If Russia doesn't have a true unstoppable missile then it is not in Iran..

Themandator:


If Russia doesn't have a true unstoppable missile then it is not in Iran..

There is no air defence as of yet which can stop hypersonic missiles. You are basing your belief on NATO/Ukraine propaganda.
The missile system (patriot) which Ukraine claimed had taken down a kinzhal missile was the target of the missile and it took the missile down by getting hit and destroyed by the missile 🤡

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar5RHdlXIN0

Stoplying:

There is no air defence as of yet which can stop hypersonic missiles. You are basing your belief on NATO/Ukraine propaganda.

Explain this propaganda and why Russia has not used it to end it war in Ukraine

Themandator:



Explain this propaganda and why Russia has not used it to end it war in Ukraine

So now I have to explain Ukrainian propaganda to you 😂
I think it suffices to say that vitali knows nothing about missiles and that what he is holding is not a kinzhal missile. Also as you may have noticed, that which you quote is NATO/Ukraine war propaganda.

Mach 15 or what. Iran are sure say you no dey exaggerate so.
Designing a missle that flies in the lower atmiosphere at such astonishing speed is highly questionable.
Mach 15 is 15×times speed of sound . That is technically (15×380) m/s . I doubt if the shear stress, drag and heat generated will not destroy the missle itself.
I am not disputing such speed in the absolute sense. For instance, rocket can attain Mach 25. However, when you are factor in the fact that the trajectory of the hypersonic missle is in the lower atmosphere. Then serious technical questions and challenges comes up.
I am coming to a conclusion that many of the breakthroughs announced by different in the hypersonic programme are exaggeration of realities That is why most of them are shrouded in secrecy. These countries have attained hypersonic but there is also exaggeration. At the end of the day it may be that non of this missle can travel faster than Mach 6 or 7 or so. Again this is an hypotetical figure.
Russia had always boasted about kinzhal hypersonics. However, the war in Ukraine refuted their claim as several of this missle were successfully intercepted and downed by US patriot defence system.
I am open to further research and knowledge as I don't have all the answers

Antiochus:


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/6/fattah-iran-unveils-its-first-hypersonic-missile

Stoplying:

There is no air defence as of yet which can stop hypersonic missiles. You are basing your belief on NATO/Ukraine propaganda.
The missile system (patriot) which Ukraine claimed had taken down a kinzhal missile was the target of the missile and it took the missile down by getting hit and destroyed by the missile 🤡

You see that you don't have a basic understanding of what you are discussing.... Patriotic missile system is not a single unit sitting in a single location....... The batteries are different from the control and detectors.. There is also a generator

Of the patriot is or was destroyed, why is Russia not taking advantage of this by continuing the air assualt


If the air is opened, why are Russian aircraft avoiding the entire Ukraine airspace?

Patriot unit took a hit and was repaired and put back to service.. Just 2 patriot is in Ukraine

29Ade07:

Russia had always boasted about kinzhal hypersonics. However, the war in Ukraine refuted their claim as several of this missle were successfully intercepted and downed by US patriot defence system.
I am open to further research and knowledge as I don't have all the answers

There is no proof as of yet that any kinzhal missiles has ever been downed.
The patriot system which Ukraine claimed to have downed the kinzhal was destroyed by the same kinzhal.
So I guess the Ukrainians are not entirely wrong, they downed the missile by letting it hit and destroy their patriot system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar5RHdlXIN0

Stoplying:

So now I have to explain Ukrainian propaganda to you 😂
I think it suffices to say that vitali knows nothing about missiles and that what he is holding is not a kinzhal missile. Also as you may have noticed, that which you quote is NATO/Ukraine war propaganda.

He doesn't but you you here knows.. Right!

Themandator:



You see that you don't have a basic understanding of what you are discussing.... Patriotic missile system is not a single unit sitting in a single location....... The batteries are different from the control and detectors.. There is also a generator

Where did I claim that the patriot system was a "single unit" as opposed to being several pieces spread in a 30km radius ?

Themandator:



He doesn't but you you here knows.. Right!

I'm smarter than Klitschko, either of the Klitschkos.
They would rough me up in a boxing ring, but I would rough them up in science, way worse than what they can do to me in the ring.

Sir, I am not a war monger or jingoist.
I am only a scientist debating the claims of these hypersonic research and technology
Please, read through my complete write-up to get the thrust of my arguement. The example of Ukraine/Russia is just to open the floor for exciting intellectual discourse.
Don't just cherry pick.

Stoplying:

There is no proof as of yet that any kinzhal missiles has ever been downed.
The patriot system which Ukraine claimed to have downed the kinzhal was destroyed by the same kinzhal.
So I guess the Ukrainians are not entirely wrong, they downed the missile by letting it hit and destroy their patriot system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ar5RHdlXIN0

Themandator:

Of the patriot is or was destroyed, why is Russia not taking advantage of this by continuing the air assualt
If the air is opened, why are Russian aircraft avoiding the entire Ukraine airspace?

Patriot unit took a hit and was repaired and put back to service.. Just 2 patriot is in Ukraine

Ukraine was part of USSR until 1991.
Ukraine inherited one of the best air defenses in the world from the USSR.
Ukraine also got lots of s300 from former Warsaw pact countries during this war.
I never claimed the Ukrainian airspace was open, the reason the Ukrainian airspace is not open has nothing to do with patriot or kinzhal, it has all to do with Soviet s300 systems.
Russia is doing its best to exhaust those systems and that is already showing results.

29Ade07:
Sir, I am not a war monger or jingoist.
I am only a scientist debating the claims of these hypersonic research and technology
Please, read through my complete write-up to get the thrust of my arguement. The example of Ukraine/Russia is just to open the floor for exciting intellectual discourse.
Don't just cherry pick.

Show me your work on a pdf, then I will take you seriously.

Stoplying:

I don't care that much about Israel and its abuses against Arabs who themselves have abused and keep to abuse blacks, but Israel is in the wrong with respect to Palestine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6foH3Zc82ZQ

I m not against abuse of human rights. But you know Arabs were the first bully and are still bullying especially when they want to expand their religion.
Everyone should just do well for humanity's sake.
If we are all mad, it can't favour the world

Gyrator:

0koro denying his 0su origins

Exhibition of low IQ from you.

Thank you and God bless

Stoplying:

Show me your work on a pdf, then I will take you seriously.

Israel will trap it in 5mins. Iran is joking though, same country that fired missiles at Passengers plane, Killing all onboard, same plane that took off from their airport. This was when Donald Trump killed terrorist revolutional guard leader.

crossbreedwears:
No Arabic country is a match for Isreal. It seems you don't know the capability of Isreal.. I just dey laugh you

Iran is not Arab bruv...

The only country Israel fear in the middle East...

Stoplying:


Ukraine was part of USSR until 1991.
Ukraine inherited one of the best air defenses in the world from the USSR.
Ukraine also got lots of s300 from former Warsaw pact countries during this war.
I never claimed the Ukrainian airspace was open, the reason the Ukrainian airspace is not open has nothing to do with patriot or kinzhal, it has all to do with Soviet s300 systems.
Russia is doing its best to exhaust those systems and that is already showing results.

Wake up.... Ukraine is already moving away from anything soviet era


Russia is fighting against 3rd and 4th generation systems from NATO with their fifth generation systems

Denmark had wanted to sell off their f16 to a private company in the US but now turns then over to Ukraine because they already have the fifth generation versions called f36

Themandator:

Wake up.... Ukraine is already moving away from anything soviet era

What point are you trying to make ?
For your information, Ukraine is running out of Soviet systems due to the war of attrition strategy of Russia.

Themandator:



Explain this propaganda and why Russia has not used it to end it war in Ukraine

That's not a khinzal hypersonic missile, this topic has been trashed weeks ago...

29Ade07:
Mach 15 or what. Iran are sure say you no dey exaggerate so.
Designing a missle that flies in the lower atmiosphere at such astonishing speed is highly questionable.
Mach 15 is 15×times speed of sound . That is technically (15×380) m/s . I doubt if the shear stress, drag and heat generated will not destroy the missle itself.
I am not disputing such speed in the absolute sense. For instance, rocket can attain Mach 25. However, when you are factor in the fact that the trajectory of the hypersonic missle is in the lower atmosphere. Then serious technical questions and challenges comes up.
I am coming to a conclusion that many of the breakthroughs announced by different in the hypersonic programme are exaggeration of realities That is why most of them are shrouded in secrecy. These countries have attained hypersonic but there is also exaggeration. At the end of the day it may be that non of this missle can travel faster than Mach 6 or 7 or so. Again this is an hypotetical figure.
Russia had always boasted about kinzhal hypersonics. However, the war in Ukraine refuted their claim as several of this missle were successfully intercepted and downed by US patriot defence system.
I am open to further research and knowledge as I don't have all the answers

Russia hypersonic missile was not down in Ukraine, unless you mean they hit their target...

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Even the Pentagon, on a drunk day, will not make this claim

Dey suld test it in SE.. enemies of the country

HeartlessMan:
Test it on Aso Rock sir.

Thank you sir and God bless

BentizilL:

Russia hypersonic missile was not down in Ukraine, unless you mean they hit their target...

BentizilL:

Russia hypersonic missile was not down in Ukraine, unless you mean they hit their target...

It's a tricky case. Do you consider an air defence system to have downed a missile if the intended target of the missile was the airdefense system and the missile hit and destroyed the airdefense system ?

It is the same dilemma with blocking punches with your face and ribs.