CLATHRIN:


If we claim to love God, we must love each other and help one another. Whoever claims he/she has no obligation to help others does not love God or has no portion in Christ Jesus.

If you or anyone reading this is a Christian, it is a spiritual and necessary obligation to help others. The bible has made this so clear. If I can help you by giving you food when you are hungry but I don't do that or I just wish you well and proclaim that God will take care of you, then I am a fraud. Do you know that in the early church, the bible says that the early christians were carrying each other's burden to the point that "no one had any need that wasn't met"

There's no point rehashing banal platitudes such as the claim that "no one has an obligation to help you"
I have the obligation to help you and that is because I love gGod and loving God means that I have to love you too.

Thank you. You are wise. People use this unobligated theory to excuse themselves from helping humanity. ironically we are directly or indirectly helping ourselves it's all we do. Every profession to the very least is a service to humanity. So saying you are aren't obligated is contradictory. There's nobody that has never been helped in one way or the other.

If you do these ( clothing, feeding,care, shelter) for ur neighbors,you are doing it for me~ JESUS.


So if we claim to love God,then we will obey him n help ourselves

You entitled to your opinion.

bukatyne:



Did he tell you his uncle was evil or he was paying him back with evil?

Skyview01:
I have adult relatives who are willfully poor and have refused to take up a job or learn a skill.
I sent some to the universities and after graduation have refused to work but want me to place them on monthly salaries.

I even got a job in a multinational company for one and he left the job without letting me know.

Do i fucking look like an ATM machine?

There is nothing wrong in being poor if it is by indolent choice.

I will rather help friends or serious stranger than some useless relatives.

I think your narrative is delifferent from the real talk though made sense.

The effects of cultism and ritual,if not why will I have money and my family members will not enjoy it.We my little salary I still make sure I do my best for my relatives.Love matters in every family,when love lead in a family you see everyone smiling.

scholes23:


Reminds me of this old movie titled DIED WRETCHED when he was
alive, he begged his nephew whom he trained and was doing well for assistance which he refused but when he died, he was burried with the most expensive casket and clothes
Just like Patoranking, Celebrate me, now when I dey alive

Oooh I remember this movie "Die wretched".
Tony Umez is the rich nephew who neglected his uncle,Njemanze who trained him.
Nostalgia

scholes23:


Reminds me of this old movie titled DIED WRETCHED when he was
alive, he begged his nephew whom he trained and was doing well for assistance which he refused but when he died, he was burried with the most expensive casket and clothes
Just like Patoranking, Celebrate me, now when I dey alive

Oooh I remember this movie "Die wretched".
Tony Umez is the rich nephew who neglected his uncle,Njemanze who trained him.
Nostalgia

Moh247:


No family is obligated to help you, help only who helped you... You are not God

And do you think those who helped you would have done so if they wanted to help only those who helped them. Help those you can if you can. It's common sense.
I'll give you a story of my life.
My dad gave my cousins and their mum a portion of our house in the village after they lost their dad in the early 90's which they normally use whenever they are home on Xmas or any other period.
When I got admission, my parents were already old and couldn't really afford to assist me. Guess what? Those my cousins were always there whenever I got choked.
Presently, things are not really moving so well for one of those my cousins at the moment since the wife got retrenched and he moved overseas. Guess what? I helped them pay part of their children's school fees with an amount of money no one has ever given me for free in my whole life just two weeks ago. He asked me to lend him, but I gave him for dash. I'm waiting for the day he will try to refund and then I'll shock him be telling him not to bother.

Now you see how the table keeps turning.

Bottom line, help when you have and when you can. It always comes back.

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No family is obligated to help you, help only who helped you... You are not God.

Your rationality and morality is impaired.
You need God to fix your mind.
It is very sick.
The fact that you don't know the primary purpose of family, to rally round each other and help themselves rise shows how damaged and deficient your upbringing and how dysfunctional your family is.
People should stay far away from people like you.
Your mentality is dangerous to humanity.
Repent.
Let Jesus fix your heart.

judedwriter:
■ No wonder why Jesus said:

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
— Matthew 10:36

True family isn't obligated to help you, but many times our toughest enemies come from our families.

I guess that's why help isn't rendered as due.

Stop posting rubbish! In that passage of Matthew 10 vs 34 - 39 Jesus Christ instead began by saying that the enemies between family members would be brought by Him to the family of those who choose to become His followers. Stop using scripture as backing for your many lies abeg!

kingthreat:
These days the number one defense of selfish people is to claim others have entitlement mentality

But it is entitlement to expect others to rescue you after you have made many foolish decisions --- not even mistakes--- without first consulting them by the way.

Yes, people are selfish but many are equally entitled.

CLATHRIN:


If we claim to love God, we must love each other and help one another. Whoever claims he/she has no obligation to help others does not love God or has no portion in Christ Jesus.

If you or anyone reading this is a Christian, it is a spiritual and necessary obligation to help others. The bible has made this so clear. If I can help you by giving you food when you are hungry but I don't do that or I just wish you well and proclaim that God will take care of you, then I am a fraud. Do you know that in the early church, the bible says that the early christians were carrying each other's burden to the point that "no one had any need that wasn't met"

There's no point rehashing banal platitudes such as the claim that "no one has an obligation to help you"
I have the obligation to help you and that is because I love gGod and loving God means that I have to love you too.

God bless you, my dear brother.
This generation is finished.
Devil has really damaged and deranged people this end time.
May God keep us sane and safe these last days.

Samantha124:
So? What does you going to church to ask for financial assistance has to do with every member of the church coming from a family?

If you don't want to go to the church to ask for help, then keep quiet and stop expecting those who wake up every morning to go to work to give you free money just because you feel entitled to it.

Them being your family members does not mean that they'll always be there because they too have their own lives and challenges they face on a daily basis.

we know you are South African where wickedness comes from but stop depicting it on public forum,it's not good .

Kobojunkie:
But it is entitlement to expect others to rescue you after you have made many foolish decisions --- not even mistakes--- without first consulting them by the way.

Yes, people are selfish but many are equally entitled.

Are you without mistakes? Biko go and rest.

Kobojunkie:
Stop posting rubbish! In that passage of Matthew 10 vs 34 - 39 Jesus Christ instead began by saying that the enemies between family members would be brought by Him to the family of those who choose to become His followers. Stop using scripture as backing for your many lies abeg!

Can you please explain what you wrote up there??

I don't understand you when it comes to religious articles.

You are so confusing in your write ups!

Sure hope you ain't doing it purposely to mislead people.

With reference to the stated subject -

Why Do We Ignore Poor Loved Ones To Die, Then Start Contributing For Burial?

This is a serious problem in the Nigerian community here in the USA, and includes friends too. When someone dies, people get together and form groups to contribute money. Sometimes it's hometown associations that contribute. It's gotten so bad that the money contributed is targeted for all sorts of frauds and shenanigans.

Everyone should get life insurance. It's an essential part of living in these modern times, whatever country you live in. It's a simple and accessible solution that promotes self reliance communal harmony.

Thanks.

Gospel2Day:
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@ Gospel2day, yr post should be one of the best comments i have read here this year .I mean,i was reading on ghost mode like i mostly do but i had to log in to thank you for putting that ignoramus in place just the way i would've done.Every word made concrete sense.

Evil people hovering everywhere trying so hard to confuse the few sane people left in this aggressively corrupt world.

kingthreat:
Are you without mistakes? Biko go and rest.

What is this one talking about now? How is having 2 or more kids you could not cater properly to from the beginning a mistake?

JeffreyJunior:
Before you beg that brother or uncle for money to solve your problems, please sit quietly and think about the problems he may also be facing?

I'm not trying to justify some actions but we all have problems. While you call that rich uncle for help, he may also be calling someone to help him solve his own problems.

The man in your story sent ambulance to take his dead brother to the village, do you know if he had money to pay for it or if someone just returned him a favor?

Don't lump everyone together and judge them because we are not in people's shoes.

Abeg shush…. You sound like one of the people that the OP is talking about.

Always full of excuses for your inhuman behaviour.

The guy is asking a simple question: All that big money you’re sending now for burial ceremony, why couldn’t you send 1/5th of that to the guy while he was struggling and you knew he was struggling?

Simple question, and you’re here blowing grammar.

Careful now, hero. Nigerians are not grateful, one should know his limits.

Love is not only about money, its about genuine relationships, trust, respect and good consideration.

CLATHRIN:


If we claim to love God, we must love each other and help one another. Whoever claims he/she has no obligation to help others does not love God or has no portion in Christ Jesus.

If you or anyone reading this is a Christian, it is a spiritual and necessary obligation to help others. The bible has made this so clear. If I can help you by giving you food when you are hungry but I don't do that or I just wish you well and proclaim that God will take care of you, then I am a fraud. Do you know that in the early church, the bible says that the early christians were carrying each other's burden to the point that "no one had any need that wasn't met"

There's no point rehashing banal platitudes such as the claim that "no one has an obligation to help you"
I have the obligation to help you and that is because I love gGod and loving God means that I have to love you too.

You can't help some people in life
If you give them any help they will waste it and come back and still tell people that you're wicked

Is not everybody that deserve help in life

Darlingme:
My thought exactly. Someone you can't help why he/she is alive, why helping to give a befitting burial?

Don't mind them o. It's simply because they had always wished the person dead all along. So, when death eventually comes, they jubiliate over the person's death while pretending to be mourning.

That's how dark most people's hearts are

MoneyMustBMade:
You can't help some people in life
If you give them any help they will waste it and come back and still tell people that you're wicked

Is not everybody that deserve help in life

But you will help with their burial.

Devil.

Why help with their burial? It’s not as if they won’t be buried without you.

So you should also use that as a reason not to help.

we don't contribute for burials!!

Personally i dont like burials that is why i prefer to give to the living.

In my village, people love burials because its an opportunity to eat and drink, since i lost a loved friend, i decided its better to cherish the living.

and i try to change, my attitude if possible to cherish the living

Jman06:
Don't mind them o. It's simply because they had always wished the person dead all along. So, when death eventually comes, they jubiliate over the person's death while pretending to be mourning.

That's how dark most people's hearts are

Darlingme:
This has nothing to do with entitlement mentality.

No one is an island and we all need each other to live peacefully.
So, a man died in my neighborhood and his children has forbidden their rich and wealthy uncles from contributing to the burial. Accordingly to the children, their poor father died of starvation, which they have been appealing to relatives, also his only brother who works in an oil company in PH for assistant and he has always promised to help, but never did. This uncle happens to be the first person to send an ambulance to convey the corpse to the village, and the children rejected his offer.
I don't understand. Why do we have rich family members, friends, yet we suffer poverty?
Why is it always easy for people who can save their fellow humans from death, starvation, depression always ignore them, but once he/she dies, it's easy to raise money for burial.

Even on social media, we bully, humiliate each other, push some people into depression with our words and write up, but once the person commit succid, we tend to start posting pics with lovely write ups. Condemning their suicidal action and blaming them for not voicing out?
why? Is it our environment, social way of behaving?

Have you ever experience any of this? Can you share such experience?
What's your general opinion about this?

My dear you just said the bitter truth, family most times can be a person's worst enemy, more especially when you're succeeding or when the senior ones dont want their junior siblings to get ahead of them or the other way round. So they just ignore them, and decide not to help, some even with the support of their wives. But ones dey hear death they'll start bringing money.




This shit happens all the time, more especially Nigeria here.

Its better to not need help from anyone, self reliance is better.

With this mindset, and by the grace of God, one will not need to ask anyone for anything and one can give freely also.

I expect nothing from anyone, but i want to give as i can, without grudging or feeling exploited or drained.

And i do not hold any grudge to anyone who did not help me, but i am thankful for every small thing.

Ideally, everyone should have something to share, it does not have to be money, it can be encouragement or motivation or sharing time, information, knowledge, or even some assistance that is not money or greetings. It how healthy community works

But when people only recognize money, they may become shallow.

achimendy:




My dear you just said the bitter truth, family most times can be a person's worst enemy, more especially when you're succeeding or when the senior ones dont want their junior siblings to get ahead of them or the other way round. So they just ignore them, and decide not to help, some even with the support of their wives. But ones dey hear death they'll start bringing money.




This shit happens all the time, more especially Nigeria here.

The party jellof

CLATHRIN:
■ If we claim to love God, we must love each other and help one another. Whoever claims he/she has no obligation to help others does not love God or has no portion in Christ Jesus. If you or anyone reading this is a Christian, it is a spiritual and necessary obligation to help others. The bible has made this so clear. If I can help you by giving you food when you are hungry but I don't do that or I just wish you well and proclaim that God will take care of you, then I am a fraud. Do you know that in the early church, the bible says that the early christians were carrying each other's burden to the point that "no one had any need that wasn't met"
There's no point rehashing banal platitudes such as the claim that "no one has an obligation to help you"
I have the obligation to help you and that is because I love gGod and loving God means that I have to love you too.

We ruin these sorts of discussions by continually attempting to drag the name of God down into them. Nigeria is the most religious country, at last check, yet the majority of the people do not agree on who God is or what God says. Most don't care for God's Law or God's ways. Rather it is just God's name they openly brandish and use in furthering their personal wills. So, yeah, this no be God matter we dey discuss for here.

On another thought, I think some relatives turn their backs against their own for genuine reasons.

Take for instance, I know that many families in this part of the world train their children by what I call cooperative interaction ie they train the first borns( sometimes up to the 3rd) who are then expected to train the younger ones.

However in many cases, these first borns don't care to train their younger ones but would rather hurriedly get married and start raising their own families. And we all know how most wives readily turn their husbands against their families. But would rather have him spend his money on her own family.

Now, because wealth is fleeting, it is possible that the man may later become poor while those siblings he neglected may turn out rich. In such scenario, it is common for the man's wife and children to start telling lies about how their dad trained so and so persons in his family only for them to abandon him in his time of need.

In such instance, I'll not blame the siblings for not caring for their brother. What goes around comes around. The man should better seek help from his wife's family. What a man sows is what he shall reap

Kobojunkie:
What is this one talking about now? How is having 2 or more kids you could not cater properly to from the beginning a mistake?

You are calling me this one? When your parents disagree with your views, is that how you address them? Guy or Woman or Transexual, see I dey my dey, I no mention you. stop trying to celebrate your ignorance over my mentions.