Data from Think Tanks such as, Pew Research, shows that more Nigerians, especially the youths, are becoming atheists and agnostics as day passes by . However, it is not clear why this demography is growing. The dominant explanation has been the secularism thesis which assumes that the movement from the primitive sacred to modern secular is driven by science.

But Nigeria, in my opinion, is yet to attain the Comptian positive or scientific age for obvious reasons. Thus, secularism may not sufficiently explain the rising number of nonbelievers in Nigeria.

BIG QUESTIONS FOR ATHEISTS AND AGNOSTICS

1) How did you become a #NigerianAtheist or agnostic?

2) Where and when did it happen?

3) Why do you think that decision is, presently, justified?

Please share your story and enlighten others.

Caveat: your response will provide primary data for an ongoing research. You, through your moniker, will be acknowledged.

The moment you realize there is no God(s).
Intelligence and curiosity. Plus, we were all born without any belief, religion whatsoever!

Wagwanbrethren:
The moment you realize there is no God(s).
Intelligence and curiosity. Plus, we were all born without any belief, religion whatsoever!

I agree with the rest but I believe there's God

SkengRay:
I agree with the rest but I believe there's God

How can you prove or demonstrate it's existence?

Wagwanbrethren:
The moment you realize there is no God(s).
Intelligence and curiosity. Plus, we were all born without any belief, religion whatsoever!

Curious. What's your premise for the statement that there's no God.

Lucifyre:


Curious. What's your premise for the statement that there's no God.

"There is no God". Belief in a deity is a matter of faith which cannot be proven.

The statement I made is based on the premise that there is no evidence that God exists. If God exists, there should be evidence of this. However, there is no evidence of God's existence. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that there is no God.

In my case, I would say it came from a realisation of the limitations in my way of thinking or not thinking.
I read this pop psychology book "The Art of Thinking Clearly" which opened my eyes to the world of fallacies, and I also observed debates between believers and non-believers. Coupled with my dislike for crowds and consequent aversion for church-going, it was easy to detach myself from all things religion.

Wagwanbrethren:

How can you prove or demonstrate it's existence?

The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence

SkengRay:
The absence of evidence isn't the evidence of absence

Ogbeni, prove something you dey yarn dust!

Wagwanbrethren:

Ogbeni, prove something you dey yarn dust!

Just because you don't have evidence that something exist doesn't mean it does not exist. The universe didn't create itself

SkengRay:
Just because you don't have evidence that something exist doesn't mean it does not exist. The universe didn't create itself

Geez, I only requested for a proof of God's existence. That's all.
At least if you claim he does exist, you should be able to prove it! 🤷‍♂️

Wagwanbrethren:
The moment you realize there is no God(s).
Intelligence and curiosity. Plus, we were all born without any belief, religion whatsoever!

If there is no God, then there is no freewill, morality becomes subjective meaning nothing is absolutely, right and wrong.
Existence becomes illogical and meaningless.

Wagwanbrethren:

Geez, I only requested for a proof of God's existence. That's all.
At least if you claim he does exist, you should be able to prove it! 🤷‍♂️

The creation is the proof of a creator.
It takes dumb faith to believe existence pulp out of nothing.
Order and structure always comes from Intelligence.
These evidences are all provable.
and interpreted it according to experience.
How do doctors know there is cancer in someone, they diagnose and interpret the result.

From our experience the bones of a bird is different from that of a mammal.

The evidence for God is this universe, we examines the reality and see that life always comes from life, order and structure always comes from Intelligence, so a well structured and well put together universe plus the existence of life points to an ultimate creator.

Steep:
The creation is the proof of a creator.
It takes dumb faith to believe existence pulp out of nothing.
Order and structure always comes from Intelligence.
These evidences are all provable.
and interpreted it according to experience.
How do doctors know there is cancer in someone, they diagnose and interpret the result.

From our experience the bones of a bird is different from that of a mammal.

The evidence for God is this universe, we examines the reality and see that life always comes from life, order and structure always comes from Intelligence, so a well structured and well put together universe plus the existence of life points to an ultimate creator.

Sweetheart, that's your claim and you can't back it up with any proof. I didn't ask what existence popped out of, I only said provide and demonstrate God's existence. Also,if you claim the universe was created by God,and came pop out of nothing,then explain how your God came into existence. Not the rambling, a sensible explanation!

It is important to note that there is a difference between proving and disproving something. Proving something requires that there is evidence that supports the claim
Disproving something, on the other hand, only requires that there is evidence that disproves the claim. With that in mind, it is clear that there is no evidence that supports the claim that the creation is proof of God or that the universe is proof of God. In fact, there is evidence that disproves both of these claims.

For example, the universe is billions of years old, and it is clear that it did not come into existence a few thousand years ago, as some people believe. If the universe was created by God, then it is reasonable to expect that there would be evidence of this. However, there is no evidence of God’s involvement in the creation of the universe. Similarly, the creation is full of flaws and imperfections. If God created the universe, then it would be reasonable to expect that it would be perfect. However, the creation is not perfect, which suggests that it was not created by God.

In addition, there are many things in the world that are not compatible with the idea of a creator God. For example, natural disasters such as earthquakes and hurricanes, as well as the existence of evil and suffering, are not compatible with the idea of a benevolent God. If God created the universe and is all-powerful and all-good, then it is reasonable to expect that there would be no evil or suffering in the world.

It is very reasonable to conclude that the creation is not proof of God and that the universe is not proof of God.🤷‍♂️
Say something else!

Wagwanbrethren:

"There is no God". Belief in a deity is a matter of faith which cannot be proven.

The statement I made is based on the premise that there is no evidence that God exists. If God exists, there should be evidence of this. However, there is no evidence of God's existence. Therefore, it is reasonable to conclude that there is no God.

Ok.
"Only a fool says there's no God"

I recently began to really respect this statement. As it is today, nobody has definitve proof that'll appeal widely across board as objective fact that there is a God or there is none, so every view is obviously subjective. From my pov i know there is a God. If i really want to explain how i came to that conclusion i'ld write a lot way more than this. And i honestly don't really want to, cause i don't know if u'r close minded or open minded and can partake in an open healthy discussion.

Anyways one thing i'll point out is that u atheists are most times just as bad as religious folks/christains. Strong baseless opinions held as facts when not verifiable and unwilling to shift ground when presented with facts to the contrary. Basically u're all close minded.
I think the answer to life is like a puzzle we are tryin to solve. Atheists and Christains(religious peeps), view the puzzle from one angle that stops them from viewing the whole concept of the puzzle and come to differing conclusions while viewing the puzzle from the same limited angle.

How can u solve the puzzle when ure not viewing from a good unlimited angle that shows the whole concept of the puzzle before you come to a logical conclusion. U guys have not even gotten the complete peices of the puzzle but you claim to have solved it. Stop looking through religious lenses only for proof of God. I didn't find my proof of God in the bible, i ironically found it in science. Understanding how the world works and how everything interacts with each other through science made me know there's definitely a God/Gods/Being/Energy.

Releigion for me is simply a precursor to science. Basically how we explained the world before we got more answers through science to know how it really works. Life is really complex and if u view the whole complex system, its quite incomprehensible that this beautiful mad complex design doesn't have a designer. Space, planets, minerals, air, gas, the literal one in a million chance of how the earth exists and how the conditions are somehow favourable is not by accident if u look at the process by which it was formed. Living things and their body structures and how their bodies function, the food chain, the eco sytem, language, behaviors and traits of different species., the vast amount of varying species and how they all interact, music, language, the laws of nature and physics, shapes. How all these things interact is with one another is crazy and complex. Then Life and death.

All these can't just come out of nothing. Just like with all our advancements we've not been able to create a process to create something out of nothing. The system is far too complex to just start out on its own, coupled with the low probabilty of everything been just the right conditions and amount to happen. Instead of seeing this complex world as evidence, the athiests looks through the lenses of religion and sees its filled with man made flawed concepts and take it as evidence that a God like that can not exist. When it is most likely not an accurate depiction of God. God is most likely complex that we can't comprehend, sort of like time dilation and quantum mechanics are. We ubderstand but can't fully comprehend.

Most of all those religious texts are filled with man made crap and i don't think its the true accurate depiction of God and what he wants.. Not discounting that there's some truth in there though. I believe, all religions, all psuedo religions, all sciences and all psuedo sciences hold pieces of this puzzle we trying to solve on the question of what is life? and the purpose of it?. The different religions are just trying to reach God and answer the question in thier own way. Science's answers the question with facts and evidences to get closer to the truth.

We are all seeking for answers and have been seeking for answers. We've got some answers but are still a million miles away from the truth. So anyone holding a stance based on about 4000 yrs of happenings according to religion, when the earth has existed for 4.5 billion or doesn't consider the vast complex world and its workings is a joker. Just be open minded bro that's all. My position on all these could change by next year as im always looking at new eveidences and learning everyday. So don't just be fixed. No one has all the answers.

Wagwanbrethren:

Sweetheart, that's your claim and you can't back it up with any proof. I didn't ask what existence popped out of, I only said provide and demonstrate God's existence. Also,if you claim the universe was created by God,and came pop out of nothing,then explain how your God came into existence. Not the rambling, a sensible explanation!

It is important to note that there is a difference between proving and disproving something. Proving something requires that there is evidence that supports the claim
Disproving something, on the other hand, only requires that there is evidence that disproves the claim. With that in mind, it is clear that there is no evidence that supports the claim that the creation is proof of God or that the universe is proof of God. In fact, there is evidence that disproves both of these claims.

For example, the universe is billions of years old, and it is clear that it did not come into existence a few thousand years ago, as some people believe. If the universe was created by God, then it is reasonable to expect that there would be evidence of this. However, there is no evidence of God’s involvement in the creation of the universe. Similarly, the creation is full of flaws and imperfections. If God created the universe, then it would be reasonable to expect that it would be perfect. However, the creation is not perfect, which suggests that it was not created by God.

In addition, there are many things in the world that are not compatible with the idea of a creator God. For example, natural disasters such as earthquakes and hurricanes, as well as the existence of evil and suffering, are not compatible with the idea of a benevolent God. If God created the universe and is all-powerful and all-good, then it is reasonable to expect that there would be no evil or suffering in the world.

It is very reasonable to conclude that the creation is not proof of God and that the universe is not proof of God.🤷‍♂️
Say something else!

I am not a sweet heart by the way.

The existence of evil does not disprove the existence of God no more than a faulty Mercedes benz disproves the existence of a Mercedes auto company.

Look at it this way
You found a shoe in the forest, is it logical to think the shoe got there by itself or is it more logical to think somebody put it there?

It is more rational, to hold the view that there is God because the evidence are overwhelming.

Steep:
I am not a sweet heart by the way.

The existence of evil does not disprove the existence of God no more than a faulty Mercedes benz disproves the existence of a Mercedes auto company.

Look at it this way
You found a shoe in the forest, is it logical to think the shoe got there by itself or is it more logical to think somebody put it there?

It is more rational, to hold the view that there is God because the evidence are overwhelming.

First, you aren't providing any evidence, second you aren't telling me where or how your God popped up since you say the world can't pop up out of nothing. Your God is said to be perfect, why comparing him to a faulty vehicle? 🤣
Why did you even choose to respond to that, and ignore my other points?

In the world, there is much evil. This evil includes natural disasters, diseases, and the suffering of innocent people. If God exists, why does he allow this evil to exist? If God is good, he would not allow evil to exist. If God is all-powerful, he could stop evil. If God is all-knowing, he would know of the evil in the world. This leads to the conclusion that evil disproves the existence of God.

You are still not providing a single evidence of God's existence, neither do you make any attempt to prove how the universe is an evidence of God's existence. For one,there are numerous logical explanation that can be demonstrated on how the universe came about,but can the same be said about your so Called God creation? Explain and demonstrate how he did it!

Wagwanbrethren:

First, you aren't providing any evidence, second you aren't telling me where or how your God popped up since you say the world can't pop up out of nothing. Your God is said to be perfect, why comparing him to a faulty vehicle? 🤣
Why did you even choose to respond to that, and ignore my other points?

In the world, there is much evil. This evil includes natural disasters, diseases, and the suffering of innocent people. If God exists, why does he allow this evil to exist? If God is good, he would not allow evil to exist. If God is all-powerful, he could stop evil. If God is all-knowing, he would know of the evil in the world. This leads to the conclusion that evil disproves the existence of God.

You are still not providing a single evidence of God's existence, neither do you make any attempt to prove how the universe is an evidence of God's existence. For one,there are numerous logical explanation that can be demonstrated on how the universe came about,but can the same be said about your so Called God creation? Explain and demonstrate how he did it!

There are no numerous logical explanation, either the universe is eternal or There is a creator.
By the way if you ate thinking eternal universe then sorry, it has bei g debunked.
All evidence points ro the fact that the universe has a beginning and the ultimate cause should be outside of space and time.
So evidence for God actually exist.
It takes faith to believe the something can come into existence without a cause it is in fact stupidity of the highest degree.


No you got it wrong, the faulty vehicle represent this world and its people.
Just as a faulty vehicle does not disprove an auto maker so an evil world does not disprove a creator.

Secondly, without God there will be no ultimate basis to morality no meaning to life no free will, just mindless atoms floating about

Steep:

There are no numerous logical explanation, either the universe is eternal or There is a creator.
By the way if you ate thinking eternal universe then sorry, it has bei g debunked.
All evidence points ro the fact that the universe has a beginning and the ultimate cause should be outside of space and time.
So evidence for God actually exist.
It takes faith to believe the something can come into existence without a cause it is in fact stupidity of the highest degree.


No you got it wrong, the faulty vehicle represent this world and its people.
Just as a faulty vehicle does not disprove an auto maker so an evil world does not disprove a creator.

Secondly, without God there will be no ultimate basis to morality no meaning to life no free will, just mindless atoms floating about

I see you have a problem providing evidence to prove the existence of God. Why are you dodging all my questions? 🤣🤣
This is so funny.

Again, provide evidence for the existence of your God, if you say the universe can't Pop out of nothing, then logically demonstrate and prove how God came into existence 🤷‍♂️

We can see the manufacturer of the vehicle, we when know where they work at. Can you say the same about your God? 🤣
The manufacturers do not claim to be perfect, but your God claim to be. Comparing the two is an insult to your god's personality! 😄

I will be waiting for an answer to my question, or you run around the circle again like usual. 🤣

Cekpo34:
Data from Think Tanks such as, Pew Research, shows that more Nigerians, especially the youths, are becoming atheists and agnostics as day passes by . However, it is not clear why this demography is growing. The dominant explanation has been the secularism thesis which assumes that the movement from the primitive sacred to modern secular is driven by science.

But Nigeria, in my opinion, is yet to attain the Comptian positive or scientific age for obvious reasons. Thus, secularism may not sufficiently explain the rising number of nonbelievers in Nigeria.

BIG QUESTIONS FOR ATHEISTS AND AGNOSTICS

1) How did you become a #NigerianAtheist or agnostic?

Agnostic here

It wasn't a simple decision that happened in one day. you could consider it a journey that took place over a long period of time.

It started as a mild curiosity about certain things being said by the bible, and then it evolved to claims being made by the bible (events, and so on), and then to the claims being made by other religions, and the philosophy of it all.

2) Where and when did it happen?

Nearly 10 years ago. I don't understand what you mean by 'where'

3) Why do you think that decision is, presently, justified?

Justified to whom? Justified how?

Please share your story and enlighten others.

Caveat: your response will provide primary data for an ongoing research. You, through your moniker, will be acknowledged.

Wagwanbrethren:

I see you have a problem providing evidence to prove the existence of God. Why are you dodging all my questions? 🤣🤣
This is so funny.

I have provided evidence but you just would not accept it.

Again, provide evidence for the existence of your God, if you say the universe can't Pop out of nothing, then logically demonstrate and prove how God came into existence 🤷‍♂️

God is not creation so I don't know what you are talking about

We can see the manufacturer of the vehicle, we when know where they work at. Can you say the same about your God? 🤣
The manufacturers do not claim to be perfect, but your God claim to be. Comparing the two is an insult to your god's personality! 😄

I will be waiting for an answer to my question, or you run around the circle again like usual. 🤣

what has the perfection or imperfection of a manufacturer got to do with its existence? You are the one running from facts.
Going by your logic if you see a broken down car that you don't see the manufacturer, then that car was not made?

Steep:
I have provided evidence but you just would not accept it.

God is not creation so I don't know what you are talking about

what has the perfection or imperfection of a manufacturer got to do with its existence? You are the one running from facts.
Going by your logic if you see a broken down car that you don't see the manufacturer, then that car was not made?

Ooh, you mean your God appeared out of nowhere! 🤣

You only made a claim without evidence. I asked you to prove and demonstrate how the universe or creation is a proof of God's existence!

We know the name of the manufacturers and who to hold responsible when things go wrong. We know where there office is located, and how to contact them,we know who to call,we can even search them up. Can the same be said about your God? 🤣

Atheism is the result of falsehood in religion!

Only one religion belongs to God so Satan who doesn't want anyone to believe (trust) God is the one behind the rest, he spread lots of lies about God so when a sane person sits down to think many questions will start coming into the heart and since the answers are far fetched the confused individual will conclude:
There is no God!

Please don't misconstrue professed atheists with deceptive individuals who claims that God exist but whose actions is saying otherwise! Psalm 14:1 compare to 2Timothy 3:5

Many atheists are sincere individuals they're only lost due to the lies and contradictions that characterized false religions in which most found themselves! Revelation 12:9

Wagwanbrethren:

Ooh, you mean your God appeared out of nowhere! 🤣

God by definition one of God's attribute is uncreated.

You only made a claim without evidence. I asked you to prove and demonstrate how the universe or creation is a proof of God's existence!

Simple you can't have a creation without a creator.

We know the name of the manufacturers and who to hold responsible when things go wrong. We know where there office is located, and how to contact them,we know who to call,we can even search them up. Can the same be said about your God? 🤣

So what if the manufacturer is dead you assume he didn't exist, the car must have made itself?
For example you can no longer contact the person that invented the telephone so, it is safe to assume the telephone made itself?

Steep:
God by definition is untreated.

Simple you can't have a creation without a creator.

So what if the manufacturer is dead you assume he didn't exist, the car must have made itself?

So, because you can't have a creation without a creator you then conclude that the creation was created by God? If you can't have a creation without a creator, then who created your God? He also needs a creator!🤣
If you can't answer that, the that shows you know nothing of what ya speak about.

Dude, it's called a brand for f:k sake. Your argument here is not convincing enough. No sane person will argue against the fact that a vehicle needs a manufacturer, plus there are surplus evidence to support it, search it up, their office is there, everything you need to know, realistic evidence, the one you can verify. Can you say the same about your God??

Tell us how your God created human, show us proof and the process he went about it. Still you skipped my previous and previous questions. This is hilarious! 🤣

Wagwanbrethren:

So, because you can't have a creation without a creator you then conclude that the creation was created by God? If you can't have a creation without a creator, then who created your God? He also needs a creator!🤣
If you can't answer that, the that shows you know nothing of what ya speak about.

God by definition is uncreated, you are illogical.

Dude, it's called a brand for f:k sake. Your argument here is not convincing enough. No sane person will argue against the fact that a vehicle needs a manufacturer, plus there are surplus evidence to support it, search it up, their office is there, everything you need to know, realistic evidence, the one you can verify. Can you say the same about your God??

what if it is a single person and the company closed down when he died? Would you then concluded the car made itself?
So you have to rely on evidence without actually seeing the manufacturer that is interesting yet again it is one thing to gather evidence it is another thing to interpret those evidence.

Tell us how your God created human, show us proof and the process he went about it. Still you skipped my previous and previous questions. This is hilarious! 🤣

I skipped you previous question because they don't make sense.
The evidence of God is everywhere. For example life cannot come for no life so it means there is an ultimate life called God.

Steep:

God by definition is uncreated, you are illogical.

what if it is a single person and the company closed down when he died? Would you then concluded the car made itself?
So you have to rely on evidence without actually seeing the manufacturer that is interesting yet again it is one thing to gather evidence it is another thing to interpret those evidence.

I skipped you previous question because they don't make sense.
The evidence of God is everywhere. For example life cannot come for no life so it means there is an ultimate life called God.

Dude, you are contradicting yourself. You said every creation needs a creator. So tell us who created your God,and how he was created. 🤣

Have you ever heard about history? 🤷‍♂️
You can simply Google search everything about the manufacturer even after closing down, everything you need to know can be found,even his photo. Can the same be said about your God?

You ignored my question because you are not mentally capable to answer them! 🤣
Answer them and stop running around. Love, this is not how you convince someone!

I will be waiting for sensible answers to my questions, and if you keep vomiting this same trash, then I would have to leave you to your foolery! 😉

Wagwanbrethren:

Dude, you are contradicting yourself. You said every creation needs a creator. So tell us who created your God,and how he was created. 🤣

Have you ever heard about history? 🤷‍♂️
You can simply Google search everything about the manufacturer even after closing down, everything you need to know can be found,even his photo. Can the same be said about your God?

God is by definition is not creation.
Do you know who Jesus is?

You ignored my question because you are not mentally capable to answer them! 🤣
Answer them and stop running around. Love, this is not how you convince someone!

Tell me is it mentally OK to believe something can come out of nothing?

I will be waiting for sensible answers to my questions, and if you keep vomiting this same trash, then I would have to leave you to your foolery! 😉

The evidence for Hod is the creation, life can only come from life, order and structure can only come from Intelligence, morality can only be true if there is God.
All these are solid proof that there is God. Arguing against these is stupidity at its best.

Steep:
God is by definition is not creation.

Tell me is it mentally OK to believe something can come out of nothing?

The evidence for Hod is the creation, life can only come from life, order and structure can only come from Intelligence, morality can only be true if there is God.
All these are solid proof that there is God. Arguing against these is stupidity at its best.

But you believe God came out of nothing na? 🤣
Does that make you mentally ill? Explain how God came into existence na. You don't want to accept that the existence of universe doesn't prove God's existence, but you want me to believe that your existence is as a result of God's existence that you can't prove. Does that not make you a blockhead?🤣

Talking about morality. This confused God plagued Egypt with various disease when he could easily do it in a more accurate way. The same god killed his whole creation including children and pregnant women!🤣
Comot morality Abeg.

Just because something is powerful doesn't mean that it is good. Hitler was powerful, but that doesn't mean that he was good. Finally, morality doesn't have to come from God in order to be true. There are many reasons why people might think that certain actions are morally right or wrong, and not all of them have to do with religion. This is basic sense na! 🤷‍♂️

Wagwanbrethren:

But you believe God came out of nothing na? 🤣
Does that make you mentally ill? Explain how God came into existence na. You don't want to accept that the existence of universe doesn't prove God's existence, but you want me to believe that your existence is as a result of God's existence that you can't prove. Does that not make you a blockhead?🤣

Talking about morality. This confused God plagued Egypt with various disease when he could easily do it in a more accurate way. The same god killed his whole creation including children and pregnant women!🤣
Comot morality Abeg.

Just because something is powerful doesn't mean that it is good. Hitler was powerful, but that doesn't mean that he was good. Finally, morality doesn't have to come from God in order to be true. There are many reasons why people might think that certain actions are morally right or wrong, and not all of them have to do with religion. This is basic sense na! 🤷‍♂️

I asked steep if lying to save yourself from death is wrong just as yahweh told abraham to lie about his wife, she is yet to answer .

Maynmann:

I asked steep if lying to save yourself from death is wrong just as yahweh told abraham to lie about his wife, she is yet to answer .

Yet he speaks about morality. 🤣

Wagwanbrethren:

Yet he speaks about morality. 🤣

Steep is a woman.