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1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Creeper: 1:34pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Things to note: - Yoruba = Oyo - Oke-Odan = Egba (most likely Owu-Egba since there’s also Egba in the census). - Jebu = Ijebu - Ketu = Yorubas from Republic du Benin - Popo = another group of Yorubas from Republic du Benin + Ogus (Eguns). - Lagos = Saros and Amaros. Finally, it shows almost Yoruba subgroups have always been in Lagos, from Ijeshas, to Egbas, to Aworis, to Oyos, to Ijebus, to Ondo, to Ife, all the way to Yorubas from Republic du Benin and most likely Togo. The only non-Yorubas who co-existed with Yorubas albeit in very small numbers were Tapas (Nupes) and Hausas. 19 Likes 5 Shares
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Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Creeper: 1:34pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
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Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Creeper: 1:35pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
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Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by CivilianJTF(m): 1:37pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
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Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Mynd44: 1:46pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Wait this was not known before? A lot of people forget that before 1967, most of Lagos was just the island. It was when Lagos state was created that Ikeja, Agege, Mushin, Ikorodu, Epe, Surulere, and Badagry were added after cutting them out of the bold western region. These areas are actually larger than half Lagos state and these areas were previously in Ogun state. Anyone who thinks the only indigenous of Lagos state are the Eguns and the Lagos Island folks is just playing around. This means that the Aworis, Egbas, Ijebu and Oyo who owned farmlands, fishing villages and also generational land in these areas automatically because indigenes of both Ogun and Lagos or Oyo and Lagos. Examples include Yayi, Obasa and Hamzat. Maybe me as my family has village in Ogun and also a homestead in Ikeja 29 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gaabasky: 1:49pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
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Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 1:52pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Creeper: Lagos State did not exist at that time. It was created in 1967 Whatever that census was for it was not Lagos state that we know today 3 Likes |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by id911(m): 2:01pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Creeper:The socalled census you referred to wasn't actually Lagos because Lagos as at then was a very tiny island. It was around 1967 or I think after the war due to state creation that so many independent places were cut and added to what it's now known as Lagos today. 2 Likes |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by kettykings: 2:07pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
id911: That seemed to be the beginning of the problems of Lagos . The addition of parts of ogun to Lagos without resettling the inhabitants of Lagos is / was the genesis of the problems of lagos city/ state. This is why I have proposed a new commercial city for Nigeria between Abuja and kogi state in the vast uninhabited areas or around Northern part of cross river. Where the indigenes can be resettled. So Nigeria can move forward. Imagine attaching parts Niger,kaduna and kano to Abuja and forming a state out of it. The whole world will not have peace . The dragging of Lagos will be a child's play compared to how hausa and fulani (ganduje and kwankwaso kind of drag) would drag Abuja with anyone and everyone. |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Sltp: 2:13pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
If your state of origin is not Lagos, shut up, you're not indigenous. Because Lagos exists, all Yoruba people have turned indigenes 3 Likes |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Ogene001: 2:17pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
So those Hausa and Nupe are also indegenous to Lagos? See how person dey shoot himself for leg. |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Armaggedon: 2:19pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Egun are not yoruba. Secondly, the census clearly called them 'Oyo yoruba' indicating they are native to oyo yet you call them indigenes. Following your logic it would be safe to call everyone captured in today census an indigene of Lagos. No one proves Lagos a no-man's-land more than Yorubas. Native lagosians can't breath! |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by money121(m): 2:20pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
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Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by jom28gy(m): 3:20pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
This things not clear |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by jmoore(m): 3:51pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Some people have allowed tribal bigotry to block their brains. You are only an indigene of your state of origin. You can't come from Iragbiji and start claiming to be an indigene of Lagos state. |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by crestedaguiyi: 4:39pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Una never the law sef fight don start. We go kuku see opportunity to buy up the remaining places. |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by demmie1: 4:59pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Armaggedon: Lagos is no mans land for Yorubas, not for chest beaters 11 Likes |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 5:12pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Mynd44: kettykings: id911: Gajagojo: You know anytime you guys come up with this claim that Lagos was just a tiny island I start laughing, Lagos airport was built during the second world war between 1939 to 1945 and that airport is at Ikeja and it was called Lagos airport, why didn't they call it Ogun, Oyo, midwest or southwest airport, that was because all that region was already mapped out as Lagos, Lagos was the capital city of Nigeria from 1914 until 1991. The creation of Lagos state in 1976 was just an amendment of status which made it a state and FCT at the same time, FCT restricted to the island and the state with its governor covering other parts of Lagos, The name Eko originally was Lagos Island but the name Lagos was more than Lagos Island, that is why the Airport that was built around 1940's was called Lagos airport in Ikeja. For the second part of you guys claim on Indigenous people of Lagos, if you are not an indigene you're not an indigene, the census there is like every census that they count people and draw data from where they come from, there are Hausas there and Nupe people, would you call them indigenes? You guys are just trying to force things to be, It is like an Egba man going to Ondo state to start claiming indigene because he lives there, The trouble you guys are about to cause if that law is passed will affect a whole lot of things because the question that will be up in everybody's lips is who is an indigene and who is not, a whole new revelation will start which might bring a whole lot of conflict... https://www.airport-suppliers.com/airport/murtala-mohammed-international-airport/ 1 Like |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Christistruth03: 5:21pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
As was said many times before At least 8 Yoruba Clans have Ancient Ancestral Territories in Lagos State awori with the most population,ijebu , ilaje,egba,Egbado,Oyo,Owu,Ketu,Ijesha,Igbomina Every one of them arrived before Gbadebo Rhodes Enslaved returnee Ancestors Ifako Ijaiye belongs to the Oyo O! Ketu belongs to the Ketu People Owu Mushin belongs to the Owu Abule Egba belongs to the Egbas Abule Ijesha belongs to the Ijesha Lekki Ibeju Ajah Sangotedo,Epe Ikorodu belongs to the Ijebu Egbado Areas full badagry LG and Ogudu belongs to Igbominas The egun descendants of Oduduwa’s Son the Olupopo own badagry Town Not to mention the Fathers of Lagos themselves the Awori Countless places are still unmentioned Lagos was Practically a Mini Yoruba Confederation ... 15 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by laiperi: 5:34pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Interpret Lagosians or indigenes anyway you want for your convenience, It is a fight between outsiders trying to ramota. Lagos is a very small village and even a small state. They all know one another and define themselves. These your silly arguments to disprove the obvious can only work against outsiders. You will be shown your way out. How successful have you been so far compared to your grandparents who know their place. The harder you try to claim what is not yours, the more you lose. All the goodwill your humble grandparents built have evaporated! 2 Likes |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 5:39pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Brendaniel:You laugh out of Ignorance So I will.educate you Take a look at this http://libsysdigi.library.illinois.edu/ilharvest/Africana/Books2011-05/3064634/3064634_1898_lagos/3064634_1898_lagos_opt.pdf The colonial report of 1898 Open and study it details earnings from agricultural produce From the entire West of Nigeria that we now call SW Oyo was Taken in 1895, Ilorin in 1897 and the entire place that later became known as Western Region was administered by Britain under an administrative entity. Known as ". Colony and Protectorate of Lagos" = Colony of Lagos. + Protectorate of Lagos As such Lagos meant anything all the way to Oyo. Lagos colony was The capital So even if t the airport was built in Abeokuta in 1945 It would still be Lagos The area East of the Niger was administered as Southern Nigeria Protectorate with Calabar as Capital The two were merged in 1906 And renamed Colony and Protecorate of Southern Nigeria Under British law there was a difference between Colony and Protectorate. A Colony treaty was signed with the Oba of Lagos. Whilst the rest of the South was a Protectorate I don't have time to explore that in detail save to say that Colony was a Crown Possession and people whose parents were born in Lagos Colony can still claim British citizenship. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 5:58pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Gajagojo: Oga you have not validated anything, so you are now telling me Oyo could have been classified as Lagos for the sake of protectorate, you are just trying to confuse yourself.. |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 6:06pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Brendaniel: Not COULD Open the report I assert with 100 % certainty that Until 1906 The Area was Colony and Protectorate of Lagos in British law They were two distinct entities administered with the Colony as Capital. That arrangement persisted in 1906 when the two Southern Colonies were merged and in 1914 till independence. When the official title was Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria Colony referred to Lagos as it then was . Based on the 1861 Treaty it was the property of the British Monarch Learn today ,if you never knew,that the rest of the country LEGALLY was never a Colony in British law but a Protectorate 2 Likes |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Christistruth03: 6:13pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Brendaniel: Lagos Airport was built at Ikeja because the National Government had run out of Land on Lagos Island the Capital as far back as the 1870s when Glover had to beg the Oloto of Otto to settle the Ifole Riots Refugees at Ebutte Meta More that 95% of lagos was carved out of the Western Region Only lagos Island was the FCT Below is the 1962 map of lagos the dot at the bottom was where the lagos Island Capital Was all the rest was under the western region You can see that more than 97% of Today’s lagos was in Awolowo’s western region Even lagos Island was handed back to Awolowo as part of the western region at Independence the western region allowed the National Government to Continue using lagos Island as the Capital only out of Consideration for the National interest Even Lagos Island was Yoruba Awori Territory 7 Likes
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Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 6:13pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Gajagojo: Oga you are talking a different thing from what the discussion is about here, we are talking about Lagos and indigenes.... Who is talking about protectorate? |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 6:17pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Christistruth03: But somehow it was called Lagos airport, why don't Ogun state buid their airport in Ibadan and call it Ogun state airport, Oga your lie has no direction, you cannot even back up your lie with a link or document that says the government ran out of land... |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Armaggedon: 6:34pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
demmie1:fixed |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Gajagojo: 6:35pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Brendaniel:I responded to your foolish quote about the airport in 1947 Who was talking about airport? That was historical point based on ignorance so I needed to school you on the history of Lagos 1 Like |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Brendaniel: 6:53pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Gajagojo: I only used a landmark project such as the Lagos airport to counter the claim you guys made that Lagos was only the island and other parts like Ikeja were not part of Lagos till Lagos state was created in 1976, please note the dates I was very specific with my dates and my dates did not exceed between 1939 and 1991 which covered the period you guys were using to give credence to your claims. my points were only raised in regards to the period of time you guys said which is 1976 both before and after, so for you to start talking about protectorate and 1880's is already way of out of when Lagos was even made FCT which is totally out of the range of discussion Also if Lagos airport you claim was built in Oyo or Ogun please provide a document or article as at the time of it's construction to back up your claim and I will provide mine to prove to to you that it was built in Lagos as part of Lagos and had nothing to do with Oyo or Ogun state Lastly you are so uncouth, learn to argue without insults.... |
Re: 1888 Census Of Lagos Colony Showing The Indigenous People Of Lagos by Blazebond(m): 6:55pm On Jun 11, 2023 |
Stop explaining yourself to people,na Yoruba get Lagos,any other tribe when say otherwise is only being mischievous and the Yoruba people of lagos must make sure that henceforth,no other tribe should e allowed to contest elections in their state again,over liberalism na em dey affect Lagos Yoruba people now so. 7 Likes |
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