larride:


It is subsidized because it's still the govt funding the schools which is why the tuition is low and can't give us what we deserve. The standard of education in the public uni is not the same with private uni.

In the breakdown of our fees, tuition is 45k, it was all other fees that add up to make it 95k.

All the money I paid for my 4yrs to study Accounting is not up to the money someone in Redeemers University pay in a year to study the same Accounting.

akwesenana:
I think what he means is if your tertiary education was subsidized, it should be at the same level as that of Redeemers at a lower cost.


Personally, I feel Federal Varsities offer value for the fees paid. Atleast Uniuyo.

DontBullshitMe:

Did he not?

UI was govt funded in first republic. No?

afrodoc:


It is like you were just looking for a way to insult Awolowo.

1) What does Awolowo have to do with a FEDERAL university like UI in the first republic?

2) Tertiary education was not free in the 1st republic.

3) Free secondary education was introduced in the mid 70s at the peak of the oil boom. Free (or subsidized) tertiary university was introduced in the early 80s.

What Awolowo introduced in the 1st republic as the Premier of Western Nigeria was free primary education. How you thought a regional premier was determining the funding of a federal university is miraculous.

Segedinho:

Oh...for clarity

I don't think anybody here is actually 100% against subsidy removal....but the timing and indifferences of d FG over the plight of the common man.
An FG would try to make sure that d devastating effect is not felt too much by rolling out measures as little as he can...otherwise a batch removal would be much appreciated
As far as we knew,about 800m us dolls was borrowed for a reason.

2)A free floating fx would actually result to inflation b4 it stabilises,,,Activating it even when the subsidy inflation wound is still being managed is actually stretching the common man's elasticity.

3)No comment on d tuition fees/students loan? Tuition fees kick starts by September. As it stands now for student loan, a drafted script has been carried by virtually almost all the news outlets and the ingredients in it is extremely too peppery to d common man and this might eventually break him.

Attachments:What is the reason for 7.5% vats on diesel even when the stretched common man is almost dead.

Attachments(2): I think as the number 1 Man,there must be something that must be done to upcoming 40% electricity saga cos it all boils down to d common man's pocket.....

Don't forget that A Nigerian politicians can never be trusted with patience


His appointment,seems appealing due to the fact of clipping d northerners' wings but accolades should be reserved for their displays in their respective offices...


As for Emefiele,even d devil wil definitely remove him and I think he was even to slow to act self...

In all,,,this isn't about obidients..Agbadorians or Atikulated but about Nigerians and every fingers (good or bad) must be pointed to our FG who happens yo be BAT...People are crazily suffering

OasisX:




Don't bullshit him doc.

obainojazz:
You beat me to this lol

abduleez1:


For the subsidy removal, based on past events in Nigeria, there is no time that would be the best to remove it. It's a now or never thing as we're drowning in it. Although, the govt should have put things in place first before removal, I don't think it can be guaranteed that BAT could do much before it's removal since Buhari and co never budgeted for it past June.

It's not too late though for the govt to role out palliatives to cushion the effect. Left to me, I'd suggest about #2tn from our subsidy payment should be used to purchase public mass transit buses in the mold of the CNG/LPG experts are suggesting since they run on far cheaper fuel.

But based on my knowledge of things, these initiatives aren't something you pull off in months for the CNG/LPG stuff cos our support infrastructure is grossly inadequate. Even that for the proposed EVs. The Charging infrastructure etc is absent.

We don't know much about $800mn loan. WB hasn't said anything about it, we don't know if they disbursed it to PMBs govt or not. Even that money sef, the way it would be spent by Buhari and co was largely vague and inept.

As for naira float, it's either that or we kill the small manufacturing sector we're struggling to grow.

VAT on diesel and the incoming electricity tariff is where I'll fault his govt move.
Cos that adds to more strain for consumers and the populace. Costs is going to be transferred from the producers to consumers.

Trailers moving goods and services across the country use diesel for fuel and will pass this down. Same as manufacturers who use both diesel and increased tariff for production who will eventually pass it down.

These two are where I have issues with the new govt. If at all they shouldn't be lumped or implemented at the same time cos as you said this all adds to inflation and more austerity for the common man. The electricity tariff is a review, so let's hope it stays at that till next year.


Too much taxation is one major reason I didn't like the idea of a Tinubu presidency but it's still early days.
Na to observe how they navigate this.

livelongprospa:

Lets do this.
What do you think your experience in university will actually be worth.
Lets assume it is subsidised.
What would do you think your fees will be with everything you experienced?

livelongprospa:


Thank you.
But now I want to know what he thinks the value of the education he received is actually worth.

akwesenana:
Well, value of education varies with each school.


There is subsidy in Federal secondary schools sha. I can't remember paying anything close to what my friends in private sec. schools but there was no gulf in education between us, whether in facilities or quality of teachers.

larride:


At least 200k

larride:


At least 200k

Segedinho:

Baba..this is what I think livelong is talking about and in all honesty it make sense.

If an aba made gucci is wort 2k,you can't call it subsidised in respect to the original gucci...your money is worth what you got.

If as a guy man,u made modifications by ironing it garnished with good perfumes and then you are respected for it......then it is you hardwork that gave u d respect.


My point is,If you come out successful as a graduate in a Nigeria(sub standard) uni and actually get d job outside..it is more of your hardwork than the facilities u passed thru....

So in brevity,the argument of no subsidy could be right,it just depends on how you look at it....

Segedinho:

Subsidy was removed in May as against the agreed June...

1 month interval to some extent is enough to roll out incentives cos reality have no respect for anybody..

As an FG a (reasonable one)your most important role is to fight for the poor and vulnerable not to input more pains irrespective of the long gain ahead.

Subsidy removal can be done in phase,if you aren't sure of the direct measures to take.


There are some policy that are too grave and as a result shouldn't be carried out in a haste..

To compound d sufferings...more anti-human policy are being rolled out and we are preaching patience when a derica of garri is scaring the masses.



In a country like Nigeria, trust is the thing an FG desired most atleast history of mismanagement and corruption still lingers till now

raumdeuter:

The Aba made gucci is it close in quality of output to Real Milan made Gucci?

A private Uni without subsidy pays like 10times more than Govt uni. If total amount to grad in a Public Uni is 500K, a Private uni grad might be spending 5m for same course

The product after graduation which is the candidate, do you think Private Uni grads are 10 times better than public uni grad?

BlueRayDick:


This is the point most of them arguing there’s no subsidy on tertiary education are missing .

I graduated from a public university and work in the same organization with graduates of private university . The knowledge I acquired from a public university at next to nothing cost qualifies me to do the same thing a person who acquired same knowledge from an expensive private school .

Anybody still arguing further just wan dey help seun increase the number of earnings he makes per click on nairaland .

raumdeuter:

The Aba made gucci is it close in quality of output to Real Milan made Gucci?

A private Uni without subsidy pays like 10times more than Govt uni. If total amount to grad in a Public Uni is 500K, a Private uni grad might be spending 5m for same course

The product after graduation which is the candidate, do you think Private Uni grads are 10 times better than public uni grad?

akwesenana:
My deepest apologies if this sounds offensive, but can you say that all your course mates who graduated with the same grades are capable of working in this organization efficiently?

raumdeuter:

The Aba made gucci is it close in quality of output to Real Milan made Gucci?

A private Uni without subsidy pays like 10times more than Govt uni. If total amount to grad in a Public Uni is 500K, a Private uni grad might be spending 5m for same course

The product after graduation which is the candidate, do you think Private Uni grads are 10 times better than public uni grad?

abduleez1:


Ma own na make we dey look... I no get much to say.

We might have some succour with the Dangote refinery starting commercial operations in September but I doubt if prices will drop down as many expect cos man is out for profits.

One thing I can suggest the govt does is to support and promote the use of the rails massively as a form of transport of goods from the North to the south. More investments on rolling stocks, storage containers for all types of goods (perishables and the likes)
They can at least control food prices significantly with that and reduce supply time.

Also security in the north needs to be tackled urgently and treated as a state of emergency.
Farmers needs to get back to the farms, this I believe is part of the rising food prices.
Hopefully, since almost all the service chiefs have credible experience and have partaken in anti terrorist and banditry operations in the North at some point, there might be hope.

For now Na observation mode I dey...

BlueRayDick:


Not all of them can; just like not all private university graduates can work efficiently in an organization as well.

akwesenana:
On paper, private uni grads have the opportunity to be 10x better than their 'subsidised' counterparts. Due to hard work on the part of the Federal Uni grad or laziness of the private uni grad or both, this gap may be reduced significantly or be non-existential sef.

akwesenana:
So, can we now say your efficiency in this organisation is due to you going the extra mile and not because your quality of education was on par with or close to that of a private uni graduate?

akwesenana:
So, can we now say your efficiency in this organisation is due to you going the extra mile and not because your quality of education was on par with or close to that of a private uni graduate?

BlueRayDick:


No!

The private university graduate and myself wouldn’t get into the organization if we didn’t pass aptitude tests , pass all stages of interview and pass our medicals.

What I’m saying is the knowledge I acquired was the same the person acquired in private university . Most of the lecturers in private university were poached from public universities . There’s nothing special about the knowledge they impart in private universities .

So far ur head carry book, whether na private or public university u go ; the knowledge u acquired in either of the institutions can get u placement in any decent organization . How do u think Nigerians who attended OOU, UNIBEN, Ekpoma , ABU, BUK, UNILAG , UI , etc relocate abroad and get jobs with their Nigerian degree in places like Canada if the subsidized education in public universities is substandard ?

livelongprospa:
Please no offence to government graduates but private university students are mostly better finished products on average.
That you have outliers doesn't change that reality.

Thing is recruitment companies also take that into account when shortlisting but when it comes to base knowledge in most cases the private uni student will be ahead just from what they learnt in uni.