Parachoco:
The most important thing is that

Asiwaju is the President

And he will rule The Federal Republic Of Nigeria till 2031 when he will handover to a Northerner who will be an APC member

Pandora and his Fulani Master will never become the President Of Nigeria

What has your contribution got to do with the topic? You can opt to keep quiet when bereft of ideas.
Tinubu is a president and not some god to be worshipped for chrissssake!

Penguin2:

Are you guys incapable of logic or is this what you could deduce from what is up there?

The dude is so annoying wahlai and does not realize campaign time is over.

Obi won the election hands down and his mandate will be retrieved

Penguin2:
Opening Remark: Without Peter Obi in the 2023 Presidential Election, there wouldn’t have been a Tinubu Presidency. But do Tinubu supporters realize this?

More often than not, you hear some people blaming Peter Obi for contesting the 2023 presidential election; and by so doing, divided opposition and denied Atiku of victory.

Well, you cannot blame people who hold the above view because they have right to think what they want and to speak in favour of what think would have best served their interest.

But contrary to the people who think Obi was wrong to have contested the election, I think Obi was right to have participated and his participation was justified in all ramification, strategy and calculation. I’ll tell you why.

The 2023 Presidential Election was existential to three set of people. First, to southern Nigerians, second, to Southeastern Nigerians and lastly, to Nigerian Christians.

The election was existential to Southern Nigerians because there was a threat of the transition of power from one northerner to another northerner, i.e Atiku trying to succeed Buhari. I am not sure a lot of southerners understood the danger that that portended which was why they were supporting Atiku. The implication is that, had Atiku succeeded, the north would felt the have gotten the magic and formula to perpetuate themselves in power for as long as possible. I don’t think you understand me. Let me explain further. Atiku’s argument for contesting was that no one else can win the election for PDP except for himself, and that PDP should rather think about winning election than following Party’s constitution on zoning. Had he won, in 8 years, another northerner (possibly Kwankwaso) will jump into APC and proffer same argument that only he can win election against PDP’s southern candidate (PDP would wanna go south after Atiku). Then he (the APC candidate) will probably go into alliance with Southwest again to dislodge the PDP candidate who is most likely going to come from either Southsouth or Southeast. The northern APC candidate is most likely to succeed. Then after his own 8 years, another northerner would have jumped into PDP to convince them that only a northerner can wrestle power from APC’s likely Southwest candidate. And that’s how the cycle would have continued. Atiku failed in this mission only because Obi pulled away from PDP and thereby put a wedge on that mission.

Similarly, the election was existential to people of Southeast because after 8 years of Buhari’s southeast-excluding administration, it was imperative and existential that Igbos and southeasterners supported one of their own or a friend of theirs to power so they don’t suffer same fate they suffered under Buhari for another 8 years. Atiku knew this sentiment and that was what he wanted to capitalize on before Peter Obi pulled the rug off his feet. But takeaway Peter Obi and the Southeast and Southsouth would have voted Atiku. You might argue that the turnout may have been lesser but I still would have been enough to cover up Tinubu’s less than 2million vote difference.

Lastly, the 2023 presidential election was existential to Nigerian Christians who were not comfortable in having a transition from a Muslim president to another Muslim president. But was their fear misplaced? No. St. Augustine of Hippo who is regarded as one of the (Catholic) Church Fathers was the Catholic Bishop of Carthage in present day Tunisia. Then Tunisia was a Christian territory but today Tunisia is a Muslim country. Turkey is the birth place of Mary Mother of Jesus. But Turkey is a Muslim Country today. All these were through forced conversion. So, knowing histories like this, one would not blame Christians when they express some misgivings about the religious dimensions of some happenings in our society and political space. Our only solace is that the man who presently holds sway has never shown himself to be a religious fundamentalist.

Now, having background of the above, you would better appreciate it when you hear someone blame Obi for contesting the election.

You might want to find out if he’s a northern hegemonist who wanted power transitioned from a northerner to another northerner, or southeasterner who would have preferred a friend of Ndigbo in power even if the future implication of such occurrence was going to be dire (some people do not think beyond the now though), or is the person a Christian who would have preferred a balanced ticket winning the election and therefore blames Obi for causing the emergence of a Muslim Muslim presidency.

But if you ask me, I would tell you that of all the existentialisms that existed before the election, the one that was most essential was the existential threat that a transition from a northerner to another northerner would have portended to the generality of Southern Nigerians. I say this because since the Southeast is a microcosm of the macrocosm that is Southern Nigeria, it can sacrifice its subjective interest for the objective and altruistic interest of the entire south. In the end, what the Southeast is yearning for is the same thing that the entire south is yearning for - a restructured Nigeria, a Nigeria based on merit and not quota system, the addressing of the obvious imbalances that exists in the Nigerian polity which were designed to favour a particular section of the country, etc. If a southern President (irrespective of where he’s from) achieves this, the demands of the southeast must have been addressed by half or more.

Some people say why did Obi contest when he knew the odds were against him and that he cannot win, and I ask, were the odds really against him?

Obi was in pole position of winning 3 regions of Southeast, Southsouth and North Central. He was going to come close second in Southwest, and try to put up considerable outing in Northwest and Northeast which would have been enough to give him victory.

Believe me, the outcome of the election followed that trajectory but like Josef Stalin said, “those who cast the votes decide nothing; those who count the votes decide everything”, those who counted the votes decided what they wanted and now we must leave the courts to review what was done.

But in the meantime, my verdict is that Obi was not wrong to have participated in the 2023 presidential election. Even if the result of that choice is a Tinubu presidency, I believe that is better than having a northerner succeed another northerner at the presidency.

Now, the north has been taught a valuable lesson - that they can’t do without the south and now every section of this country must respect the conventional zoning arrangement that ensures that every section of this country feels that they are part of the project that is called Nigeria.

Penguin is a bird of reason!!!

BabaRamota1980:
Penguin2

This kind lamentation is called buyer's remorse.

My brother, pele o.

Where is the lamentation in this thread Ba Ramota. From day one that Obi declared, i knew he was a big asset for Tinubu.

Campaign and gloating time is over and its time for Tinubu to actually get to work.

DMerciful:
Obi won the election hands down and his mandate manhood will be retrieved

Fixed for you

He Peter Obi contest at wrong time

QuotaSystem:
Self consolation built on fallacies, upon the final realization of Obi’s non-existent mandate.



The North was not taught any lesson, you’re pretending to forget that our Northern governors willfully conceded the Presidential ticket to the South, which makes Tinubu’s Presidency a fulfilled agenda.

We were deliberate and intentional about a Tinubu Presidency for two main reasons:

1. The existence of Nigeria as it is. If we had backed a north-north Presidential transition, more southerners would be disillusioned at the concept of “one Nigeria” and would be drawn the ‘gospel’ of burgeoning secessionist forces. IPOB and Oduduwa agitators would have hijacked the sentiment of discontent for their agenda.

2. We knew Atiku neither had capacity nor track record of performance & was only an opportunistic, corrupt politician that couldn’t provide the kind of progressive governance that Nigeria sorely needs. Now we are in pole position for 2031 Presidency and have earned the trust/loyalty of our SW allies who have pledged to reciprocate in due course.

If it was the north’s intention to retain power, we would have voted en-bloc for PDP and the 2 million votes lead Tinubu enjoyed would have been non-existent and Atiku would have won the election.

In raw numbers crunched by TheCable Index, Tinubu beat Atiku in the north-west, scoring 2,652,824 votes compared to his opponent’s 2,197,824. Not only were Atiku’s margins in some of the states narrow, Tinubu took a whopping half a million votes in Kano alone.
In fact, Tinubu got 30 percent of his total votes from the north-west alone. That is almost one-third.

Another fallacy is the notion that Obi had any chance to win the North Central. That is a notion that existed solely in the heads of typically politically naive obidients that didn’t realize that Niger, Kogi and Kwara are part of their presumed NC/middle belt, and would always vote alongside the NW. The remaining 3 NC states would always be split across parties. Obi didn’t stand a chance in the NC from the word go.

Furthermore, due to his affiliation & sympathies for IPOB terrorists that he never failed to defend, Obi didn’t stand any chance in the NW & NE either. Ever wondered why he had no choice but to appoint fellow Igbos as Campaign coordinators in core Northern states like Sokoto etc.?

The only region that has been taught and re-taught an important existential lesson is the South East; that any candidate can do without S/Eastern votes and still successfully emerge President. In fact going forward, Presidential candidates might consider Eastern campaigns as an avoidable, unnecessary expense.

This has been proven TWICE by a Northerner (PMB) and now a THIRD time by a fellow Southerner…. and an added lesson about the futility of “nzogbu-nzogbu” politics; that it’s impossible to win Presidential elections without building bridges across the country, as some Obidients erroneously thought before the polls.

If anyone reads this post, especially Obidients, and is not enlightened by what QuotaSystem has written, they might as well give up on life.

I fear for the South East, as you've inferred in your last two paragraphs, they are going to turn themselves into an irrelevant afterthought in Naija politics if care is not taken.

Peter Obi is my president.

JAMO84:
There's nothing you've said here that we didn't say before the election

Prophet Jamo84, you even predicted Obi's vote of 6m.

QuotaSystem:
Self consolation built on fallacies, upon the final realization of Obi’s non-existent mandate.



The North was not taught any lesson, you’re pretending to forget that our Northern governors willfully conceded the Presidential ticket to the South, which makes Tinubu’s Presidency a fulfilled agenda.

We were deliberate and intentional about a Tinubu Presidency for two main reasons:

1. The existence of Nigeria as it is. If we had backed a north-north Presidential transition, more southerners would be disillusioned at the concept of “one Nigeria” and would be drawn the ‘gospel’ of burgeoning secessionist forces. IPOB and Oduduwa agitators would have hijacked the sentiment of discontent for their agenda.

2. We knew Atiku neither had capacity nor track record of performance & was only an opportunistic, corrupt politician that couldn’t provide the kind of progressive governance that Nigeria sorely needs. Now we are in pole position for 2031 Presidency and have earned the trust/loyalty of our SW allies who have pledged to reciprocate in due course.

If it was the north’s intention to retain power, we would have voted en-bloc for PDP and the 2 million votes lead Tinubu enjoyed would have been non-existent and Atiku would have won the election.

In raw numbers crunched by TheCable Index, Tinubu beat Atiku in the north-west, scoring 2,652,824 votes compared to his opponent’s 2,197,824. Not only were Atiku’s margins in some of the states narrow, Tinubu took a whopping half a million votes in Kano alone.
In fact, Tinubu got 30 percent of his total votes from the north-west alone. That is almost one-third.

Another fallacy is the notion that Obi had any chance to win the North Central. That is a notion that existed solely in the heads of typically politically naive obidients that didn’t realize that Niger, Kogi and Kwara are part of their presumed NC/middle belt, and would always vote alongside the NW. The remaining 3 NC states would always be split across parties. Obi didn’t stand a chance in the NC from the word go.

Furthermore, due to his affiliation & sympathies for IPOB terrorists that he never failed to defend, Obi didn’t stand any chance in the NW & NE either. Ever wondered why he had no choice but to appoint fellow Igbos as Campaign coordinators in core Northern states like Sokoto etc.?

The only region that has been taught and re-taught an important existential lesson is the South East; that any candidate can do without S/Eastern votes and still successfully emerge President. In fact going forward, Presidential candidates might consider Eastern campaigns as an avoidable, unnecessary expense.

This has been proven TWICE by a Northerner (PMB) and now a THIRD time by a fellow Southerner…. and an added lesson about the futility of “nzogbu-nzogbu” politics; that it’s impossible to win Presidential elections without building bridges across the country, as some Obidients erroneously thought before the polls.

You nailed it

JagabanBorgu:

People who voted the president voted him because we needed someone to perform, we trusted him to perform that's why we voted him, so don't bend the story that he is or will perform because of the Iósèrs.

Lol I’m sure Buharists voted with the same intention and yet PMB was a monumental failure with his strong mandate. You guys are always so sensitive for no reason.

It’s a simple fact that the PBAT's weak mandate is putting more pressure on him to perform.

You should be happy as a Nigerian ❤️

Grayoso:
While I am not a fan of Obi, and do not think him fit to be President, I think all pragmatic Nigerians who wish our nation well should thank him for denying PDP the votes that would have seen Atiku emerge President.

Nigerians have short memory but the Northern plots, spearheaded in APC and PDP, to deny a strong and independent minded Southerner becoming President was well organised, well supported and desperate.

We saw this with APC with the way Buhari and his Northern supremacist were happy and willing to destroy their own Party to stop Tinubu emerging the Party's candidate.

Beginning from their deliberate effort to divide and sabotage APC as far back as the needless and totally suicidal self-destructive actions that made the Party lose Edo State.

So much happened in the APC that showed some Northerners have no interest in being loyal to the integrity and efficacy of Political Parties.

Emefiele was even encouraged to attempt to be President in all the confusion and madness Buhari and his crew caused.

The incoherent joke Buhari made the APC saw so many buy Primaries ticket in a shambolic horsetrading charade that indicated factions in the APC were trying to outsmart themselves.

Hardly will you see Political Parties run this disracefully and shambolically anywhere else in the world, let along a ruling Party, but this was what Buhari and his Northern hawks caused because they could not accept that their time is over and that the strongest from the South had the right to contest and win.

PDP was no different with the arrogance and power-drunkeness of Atiku supported by the machinations of Tambuwal etal.

Long and short, the North was desperate to retain power directly, through a PDP Atiku win , or indirectly through a Southern stooge, like Emefiele, as the APC President.

It would have been a disaster and Nigeria will surely not survive a Northern Presidency since Buhari had totally destroyed the nation (security, economy, badly divided citizens etal) and another Northerner, because most mainly only play Conservative, illiberal, non-progressive and expedient politics, would see us finished.

I therefore thank Obi. I believe he saved Nigeria in his own way and God or Karma used him to ensure our nation qas not conceded into hands that would see her fall into the abyss when some had already taken her to the edge of the cliff.

The last 8 years reminded most Nigerians, painfully, that the North is not into developmental politics.
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Spot on

Grayoso:
While I am not a fan of Obi, and do not think him fit to be President, I think all pragmatic Nigerians who wish our nation well should thank him for denying PDP the votes that would have seen Atiku emerge President.

Nigerians have short memory but the Northern plots, spearheaded in APC and PDP, to deny a strong and independent minded Southerner becoming President was well organised, well supported and desperate.

We saw this with APC with the way Buhari and his Northern supremacist were happy and willing to destroy their own Party to stop Tinubu emerging the Party's candidate.

Beginning from their deliberate effort to divide and sabotage APC as far back as the needless and totally suicidal self-destructive actions that made the Party lose Edo State.

So much happened in the APC that showed some Northerners have no interest in being loyal to the integrity and efficacy of Political Parties.

Emefiele was even encouraged to attempt to be President in all the confusion and madness Buhari and his crew caused.

The incoherent joke Buhari made the APC saw so many buy Primaries ticket in a shambolic horsetrading charade that indicated factions in the APC were trying to outsmart themselves.

Hardly will you see Political Parties run this disracefully and shambolically anywhere else in the world, let along a ruling Party, but this was what Buhari and his Northern hawks caused because they could not accept that their time is over and that the strongest from the South had the right to contest and win.

PDP was no different with the arrogance and power-drunkeness of Atiku supported by the machinations of Tambuwal etal.

Long and short, the North was desperate to retain power directly, through a PDP Atiku win , or indirectly through a Southern stooge, like Emefiele, as the APC President.

It would have been a disaster and Nigeria will surely not survive a Northern Presidency since Buhari had totally destroyed the nation (security, economy, badly divided citizens etal) and another Northerner, because most mainly only play Conservative, illiberal, non-progressive and expedient politics, would see us finished.

I therefore thank Obi. I believe he saved Nigeria in his own way and God or Karma used him to ensure our nation qas not conceded into hands that would see her fall into the abyss when some had already taken her to the edge of the cliff.

The last 8 years reminded most Nigerians, painfully, that the North is not into developmental politics.
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Other than your opinion on Obi's fitness for the presidency, it's hard to argue against what you wrote. There is clearly a strong ideological divide between most of the current Northern leaders and the Southern ones.

Everyday I learn more and more about the true extent of PMB's bigotry and nepotism on top of his certified incompetence. PBAT is already showing him up with his short time in office. The next time the North says "it's our turn" we must demand much better.

And I'm not sure they will even wait till 2031. I don't doubt for a second that someone like Kwankwaso is eyeing a North-SE alliance to take power back to the north early in 2027

This is partly why it's so disappointing to see the south divided on here. Everyday hate speech and propaganda lol.

PBAT bears responsibility in all this too. He gave us PMB because of his own personal ambition and I'm convinced he has also fuelled the fire on the southern divide. So if it backfires he can't really blame anyone but himself.

Goodluck to him sha. If he performs well I'll personally be obidiently batified despite the above.

God bless Nigeria ❤️

wegevv:


Lol I’m sure Buharists voted with the same intention and yet PMB was a monumental failure with his strong mandate. You guys are always so sensitive for no reason.

It’s a simple fact that the PBAT's weak mandate is putting more pressure on him to perform.

You should be happy as a Nigerian ❤️

U are the sensitive ones.
PBAT wrote a manifesto before Nîgeriàns went to the polls, he is following what he wrote and boom!!!
Lósers say he is performing because of them.

JagabanBorgu:

U are the sensitive ones.
PBAT wrote a manifesto before Nîgeriàns went to the polls, he is following what he wrote and boom!!!
Lósers say he is performing because of them.

Buhari wrote manifesto too. And he failed woefully.

Weak mandate is added pressure to perform. Just a fact, even a "lóser" like me knows that lol.

God bless Nigeria ❤️

PS: why so angry. You won. Cheer up a bit ❤️

Skyview01:


The dude is so annoying wahlai and does not realize campaign time is over.

Sometimes I wonder if they are being deliberate or that’s really their IQ level.

wegevv:


Buhari wrote manifesto too. And he failed woefully.

Weak mandate is added pressure to perform. Just a fact, even a "lóser" like me knows that lol.

God bless Nigeria ❤️

PS: why so angry. You won. Cheer up a bit ❤️

Trying to Play mind games?
U need to work hard, from being sensitive to being angry now?
U mind games is more like children's play here.
Agree or not, Tinubu never needed ur votes to be president, he wón't be needing it in 2027, we voted him based on his capacity, u can continue to çry, I see u have started preparing lines for 2027 campaign already since u know ur case in court is dead already.

JagabanBorgu:

Trying to Play mind games?
U need to work hard, from being sensitive to being angry now?
U mind games is more like children's play here.
Agree or not, Tinubu never needed ur votes to be president, he wón't be needing it in 2027, we voted him based on his capacity, u can continue to çry, I see u have started preparing lines for 2027 campaign already since u know ur case in court is dead already.

I don't know what is making you this way but e go better

I love you bro ❤️

QuotaSystem:
Self consolation built on fallacies, upon the final realization of Obi’s non-existent mandate.



The North was not taught any lesson, you’re pretending to forget that our Northern governors willfully conceded the Presidential ticket to the South, which makes Tinubu’s Presidency a fulfilled agenda.

We were deliberate and intentional about a Tinubu Presidency for two main reasons:

1. The existence of Nigeria as it is. If we had backed a north-north Presidential transition, more southerners would be disillusioned at the concept of “one Nigeria” and would be drawn the ‘gospel’ of burgeoning secessionist forces. IPOB and Oduduwa agitators would have hijacked the sentiment of discontent for their agenda.

2. We knew Atiku neither had capacity nor track record of performance & was only an opportunistic, corrupt politician that couldn’t provide the kind of progressive governance that Nigeria sorely needs. Now we are in pole position for 2031 Presidency and have earned the trust/loyalty of our SW allies who have pledged to reciprocate in due course.

If it was the north’s intention to retain power, we would have voted en-bloc for PDP and the 2 million votes lead Tinubu enjoyed would have been non-existent and Atiku would have won the election.

In raw numbers crunched by TheCable Index, Tinubu beat Atiku in the north-west, scoring 2,652,824 votes compared to his opponent’s 2,197,824. Not only were Atiku’s margins in some of the states narrow, Tinubu took a whopping half a million votes in Kano alone.
In fact, Tinubu got 30 percent of his total votes from the north-west alone. That is almost one-third.

Another fallacy is the notion that Obi had any chance to win the North Central. That is a notion that existed solely in the heads of typically politically naive obidients that didn’t realize that Niger, Kogi and Kwara are part of their presumed NC/middle belt, and would always vote alongside the NW. The remaining 3 NC states would always be split across parties. Obi didn’t stand a chance in the NC from the word go.

Furthermore, due to his affiliation & sympathies for IPOB terrorists that he never failed to defend, Obi didn’t stand any chance in the NW & NE either. Ever wondered why he had no choice but to appoint fellow Igbos as Campaign coordinators in core Northern states like Sokoto etc.?

The only region that has been taught and re-taught an important existential lesson is the South East; that any candidate can do without S/Eastern votes and still successfully emerge President. In fact going forward, Presidential candidates might consider Eastern campaigns as an avoidable, unnecessary expense.

This has been proven TWICE by a Northerner (PMB) and now a THIRD time by a fellow Southerner…. and an added lesson about the futility of “nzogbu-nzogbu” politics; that it’s impossible to win Presidential elections without building bridges across the country, as some Obidients erroneously thought before the polls.

I doubt you are even a northerner. You are probably one Yoruba claiming to be from the Southwest.

But if you are truly from the north, then you are nothing but just another hegemonist.

First, APC had no choice but to concede its ticket to the south. Had Ahmed Lawan gotten it, who would have voted for him? He would have gotten votes in the Northeast and Northwest and then where else? Would Southwest have voted for Lawan? Would Kwara or Kogi have voted for Lawan? Don’t try to claim glory of APC zoning ticket to South; the party had no choice. Anything contrary would have been suicide.

And funny you, and your ilk, to think that you can win Nigerian presidency without Southeast. Goodluck to you, and those you would advise, with that. But I’ll leave you by telling you to add Atiku and Obi’s votes together and know what the result would have been had Obi not been in the race.

What you are doing is just lamentations. Northern hegemonists felt Obi was too disruptive to be allowed to win the election and that’s why they chose to rig the election for Tinubu, only for Tinubu to turn out being more disruptive than Obi ever promised.

Whatever you think in your head is non of my business. My happiness is that by the time Tinubu is done (if Obi doesn’t recover his mandate in court) a lot of things the north had exclusive preserve of must have been taken away from their mouth. Deal with that.

wegevv:


Other than your opinion on Obi's fitness for the presidency, it's hard to argue against what you wrote. There is clearly a strong ideological divide between most of the current Northern leaders and the Southern ones.

Everyday I learn more and more about the true extent of PMB's bigotry and nepotism on top of his certified incompetence. PBAT is already showing him up with his short time in office. The next time the North says "it's our turn" we must demand much better.

And I'm not sure they will even wait till 2031. I don't doubt for a second that someone like Kwankwaso is eyeing a North-SE alliance to take power back to the north early in 2027

This is partly why it's so disappointing to see the south divided on here. Everyday hate speech and propaganda lol.

PBAT bears responsibility in all this too. He gave us PMB because of his own personal ambition and I'm convinced he has also fuelled the fire on the southern divide. So if it backfires he can't really blame anyone but himself.

Goodluck to him sha. If he performs well I'll personally be obidiently batified despite the above.

God bless Nigeria ❤️

Nice post plus objective and fair observations. Love your conclusion as well. The part in bold, in your post, is very important to me personally.

This ia because, as I have always argued, Nigeria needs to evolve urgently like the West so that a powerfully responsible governance system is in place no one can hijack partisanly and as dangerously unchecked as Buhari did.

We could have experienced free-for-all Rwanda-style genocide with how Buhari was leading if not that Nigeria is the biggest black nation on Earth that would mean world intervention would be swift to prevent refugee crisis, humanitarian strife, proliferation of diseases etc.

I personally think there should be more anger against what Buhari and his cabal did, and more determination against a future repeat of it, than the singular focus of many Nigerians to dwell on who "brought Buhari" or supported him to power.

We now must charge Tinubu to deliver robust legislative laws, appropriate contitutional amendments, greater state and regional autonomy and strong institutional autonomy, plus legally-enforceable checks and balances, that will mean a Buhari will never happen to us again.

Buhari owed many Fulanis, who did not know better, Awolowo-type 'teach a man to fish' leadership.

Instead he chose to provide protection for deficiencies any wise leader would know he must eradicate from his people as Awolowo determined to provide free and quality education as a way to elevate and emancipate Yorubas forever.

Nigeria should heal and no one, from any ethnic group , should be prevented from being Presidenf in future.

The focus should be on working to deliver strong reforms that must mean a Hitler-type bigot, if he somehow fools enough Nigerians to get the vote to become President, cannot partisanly destroy the security, socio-economic wellbeing and even monetary integrity of Nigeria in pursuit of an ethnocentric or sectional agenda.

No UK Prime Minister today can tacitly, using the police and army, empower caucasians to run through minority-dominated areas killing, raping, pllillaging and maiming folks there.

That PM would not last even an hour in office. Yer Buhari did it for years and the entire Nigeria kept slient, tolerated it and even accepted it as a way of life.

That is what we have to change so we can become like Nations with strong laws and institutions. I would consider Tinubu failed if he does not deliver this.

ObJ, Yar Adua, GEJ ans Buhari have their fans and praise-singers for some good they did but the only President Nigerians can/should praise as successful would be one who evolutionarily reforms Nigeria so, for example, savagery and brutality are a thing of the past because State/regional policing exist rather than leaders (OBJ and GEJ) who will declare "Nigeria not ripe for State policiing" or those (like Buhari) who will not even indulge the idea let alone be open to discussing it.

Penguin2:

And funny you, and your ilk, to think that you can win Nigerian presidency without Southeast. Goodluck to you, and those you would advise, with that.

Una jus like to dey argue wen una no get point sha.

As the guy write in his eloquent post, Buhari did it twice and President Tinubu, despite 95% and above votes for Obi in the South East, has just done it again.

aswani:


Una jus like to dey argue wen una no get point sha.

As the guy write in his eloquent post, Buhari did it twice and President Tinubu, despite 95% and above votes for Obi in the South East, has just done it again.

That’s why I said that you people are right na.

Tell Tinubu to exclude the Southeast; they don’t matter.

But just a little education…

Buhari was able to win the election in 2015 and 2019 with northern and western votes because Buhari is overly popular in the north.

In 2023, the reason you are talking about Tinubu now is because Obi took the votes of southeast and Southsouth away from Atiku and Atiku was forced to make due with only northern votes.

Again, there was a certain Kwankwaso to help waste northern votes.

I don’t expect you to accept this reality. I expect you to comfort yourself with what makes you happy.

But don’t forget to advise Tinubu to exclude the Southeast since their votes is useless.

Meanwhile, this is one of you below claiming (before the election) that Obi will not score 744k votes. I’m sure Obi didn’t even score up to 500k votes nationwide….

Grayoso:


Nice post plus objective and fair observations. Love your conclusion as well. The part in bold, in your post, is very important to me personally.

This ia because, as I have always argued, Nigeria needs to evolve urgently like the West so that a powerfully responsible governance system is in place no one can hijack partisanly and as dangerously unchecked as Buhari did.

We could have experienced free-for-all Rwanda-style genocide with how Buhari was leading if not that Nigeria is the biggest black nation on Earth that would mean world intervention would be swift to prevent refugee crisis, humanitarian strife, proliferation of diseases etc.

I personally think there should be more anger against what Buhari and his cabal did, and more determination against a future repeat of it, than the singular focus of many Nigerians to dwell on who "brought Buhari" or supported him to power.

We now must charge Tinubu to deliver robust legislative laws, appropriate contitutional amendments, greater state and regional autonomy and strong institutional autonomy, plus legally-enforceable checks and balances, that will mean a Buhari will never happen to us again.

Buhari owed many Fulanis, who did not know better, Awolowo-type 'teach a man to fish' leadership.

Instead he chose to provide protection for deficiencies any wise leader would know he must eradicate from his people as Awolowo determined to provide free and quality education as a way to elevate and emancipate Yorubas forever.

Nigeria should heal and no one, from any ethnic group , should be prevented from being Presidenf in future.

The focus should be on working to deliver strong reforms that must mean a Hitler-type bigot, if he somehow fools enough Nigerians to get the vote to become President, cannot partisanly destroy the security, socio-economic wellbeing and even monetary integrity of Nigeria in pursuit of an ethnocentric or sectional agenda.

No UK Prime Minister today can tacitly, using the police and army, empower caucasians to run through minority-dominated areas killing, raping, pllillaging and maiming folks there.

That PM would not last even an hour in office. Yer Buhari did it for years and the entire Nigeria kept slient, tolerated it and even accepted it as a way of life.

That is what we have to change so we can become like Nations with strong laws and institutions. I would consider Tinubu failed if he does not deliver this.

ObJ, Yar Adua, GEJ ans Buhari have their fans and praise-singers for some good they did but the only President Nigerians can/should praise as successful would be one who evolutionarily reforms Nigeria so, for example, savagery and brutality are a thing of the past because State/regional policing exist rather than leaders (OBJ and GEJ) who will declare "Nigeria not ripe for State policiing" or those (like Buhari) who will not even indulge the idea let alone be open to discussing it.

Great submission but you couldn’t help but betray the fact that you are a Tinubu man.

Till eternity, Tinubu will continue to take blame for Buhari disaster.

Buhari had already retired to Daura when Tinubu went and excavated him and used media to dress him up as a refined democrat and other crap.

And considering the characters behind Buhari and how bloodthirsty they were, they imported mercenaries to cause mayhem should Buhari lose which was why GEJ caved in. The resultant effect was a Buhari disaster.

And you say we should stop blaming Tinubu?

Someone causes you to be imprisoned for 8 years and when you are finally out, you will say, “there’s no need blaming him”, really?

Parachoco:
The most important thing is that

Asiwaju is the President

And he will rule The Federal Republic Of Nigeria till 2031 when he will handover to a Northerner who will be an APC member

Pandora and his Fulani Master will never become the President Of Nigeria

Person wey go die, go die.

Penguin2:

That’s why I said that you people are right na.

Tell Tinubu to exclude the Southeast; they don’t matter.

But just a little education…

Buhari was able to win the election in 2015 and 2019 with northern and western votes because Buhari is overly popular in the north.

In 2023, the reason you are talking about Tinubu now is because Obi took the votes of southeast and Southsouth away from Atiku and Atiku was forced to make due with only northern votes.

Again, there was a certain Kwankwaso to help waste northern votes.

I don’t expect you to accept this reality. I expect you to comfort yourself with what makes you happy.

But don’t forget to advise Tinubu to exclude the Southeast since their votes is useless.

Meanwhile, this is one of you below claiming (before the election) that Obi will not score 744k votes. I’m sure Obi didn’t even score up to 500k votes nationwide….

You are changing the subject slyly. The discussion is that people are winning elections comfortably without South Eastern votes, not that they are excluding Igbo people in anything.

President Tinubu is an inclusive person and you can check his Lagos State governance team.

The guy is actually incredibly forgiving on top (this is relating to those whose career he boosted that then turned on him).

By the way, who are the "one of you"? Don't link me with people who I am not politically aligned with abeg.

ajailer:
See the OP trying to change the narrative as if say we dey suffer from short memory. We will never forget that the easterners wanted Obi of LP and if he can’t win, they will be fine with Atiku winning as long as it’s not BAT. Now see as he dey change the narrative wey never reach one year say If Obi no win then they will be happy with BAT. They were operating from a tribal sentiment and that a northerner handing over to another northerner was never a concern to them. In fact, it was the batist that were concerned about this.

Obidients have never been a sincere group and it was easy for me to see through their drama. Batists are more sincere, they know their man no get too good a record and dem no polish am up, instead their selling point was on BAT past record of performance but what do we say bout the obidients(kettle calling pot black)

If we wanted Atiku, why didn’t we vote for him?🤔

Skyview01:


Where is the lamentation in this thread Ba Ramota. From day one that Obi declared, i knew he was a big asset for Tinubu.

Campaign and gloating time is over and its time for Tinubu to actually get to work.

Using your pivotal statement, I guess we might as well declare if it wasn't for colonial government there never would have been a Nigeria, and Tinubu could not have been president. Colonial exploitation made him President.

Let's face the now. Tinubu used Utomi to splinter PDP and destroy Atiku's chance. Tinubu eye was on Atiku, not anybody else.

Frigga13:
Penguin is a bird of myopic reasoning..

Oga decamp with your full chest and stop playing bacarnista tony..

You were all warned .. a vote for Obi is an advantage to tinubu Apc..
op in particular damed it .. only to write English

Nairaland kids

As an Atiku man and a northerner, I understand your pain.

You people really wanted to transition from a northerner to another northerner while southern regions would just be your useful idiots.

SenatePresdo:


Person wey go die, go die.

Gbam!

monakii:
As a Nigerian, Obi was never wrong to contest and will never be. If anybody was wrong to contest, though on morality ground, it has to be the northerners, Atiku (and perhaps, kwankwaso) based on existential arrangement i.e zoning between South and North.

However, a part of your argument that it is the turn of the Christian, South and southeast, made me realize people like you are why Obi lost and will likely lose future elections.
Are Muslims from the south not Nigerians enough to be presidents? Are Christians in the North not human beings? Religion is not part of our mix. It's just a tool Politicians adopt to maneuver and gain cheap control over the minds of gullible electorates.
May be Obi would have won a direct electoral contest against Tinubu. May be! But the question is- after all that southeast has invested in PDP, why is Atiku not wrong to take the turn of the Southeast in PDP but Tinubu was demonized to the pit of hell for pursuing his legitimate ambition within APC where he has waited patiently and invested all his resources?

In fact, If you dig my past comments, hereon, you will see where I said the next president must come from the south but I disagree with mocrozoning to any specific sub-region because I, personally hate bigotry and extremism. Nigeria needs a nationalist as president not an ethnic opportunist or a quota system beneficiary. No president can emerge in Nigeria with such luck - Not even the popular Buhari of the almighty Northern hegemony. He failed on multiple attempts! Hence, the Buhari-Tinubu alliance of 2015.
If Obi (and/or anyother Ibo politicians in PDP) had succeeded in winning the PDP presidential tickets to their region, I may have voted for him/them. But I perished that idea immediately after seeing what the Ibos were doing to Tinubu but couldn't look Atiku in his face. And for that, I will continue to respect Wike- for challenging his audacity.

Finally, I am above all, happy for the twists in our political trajectories and space- including the legal fireworks and multiplicity of oppositions and how it will likely provoke some necessary development and change we all seek as a Nation. The President has no breathing space hence, he must explore all avenues to assuage and heal the sufferings of all and the angst of some.


PS: I advise that the Ibos need more bridgebuilding especially with the Yorubas and southsouth to form an invincible south that can effect the needed change to birth a new and better Nigeria.

Peace.

Sorry, but are implicitly calling Obi an “ethnic opportunist”?

And what kind of bridge do you want the southeast to build with the Southsouth and Southwest that it hasn’t built?

aswani:
For me, I will always be grateful to Peter Obi for being a genuine third way in Nigerian politics in these elections.

With these elections, we as Nigerians have made incredible strides and I was pleasantly surprised seeing results come in. Tinubu losing in Lagos, PDP winning in Osun, Tinubu beating Atiku in the North and winning Rivers. Obi winning in Edo ad Abuja.

Overwhelming Peter Obi victories in the South East were quite dissapointing but you can't have it all.

Sadly however, thanks to those toxic Obidients, all the gains from the elections have dissappeared into thin air. Obidients have successfully turned Peter Obi into an Igbò project.

If the elections were nullified and held again, Obi is coming an even more distant third and worse still, we would be back under the APC and PDP choke hold.

What a shame. 2 steps forward and three steps back. Obidients una well done ó.

Breaking News: if the election is nullified, Tinubu would equally be disqualified which means that you would be left with either Atiku or Obi.

Thanks!

Grayoso:
While I am not a fan of Obi, and do not think him fit to be President, I think all pragmatic Nigerians who wish our nation well should thank him for denying PDP the votes that would have seen Atiku emerge President.

Nigerians have short memory but the Northern plots, spearheaded in APC and PDP, to deny a strong and independent minded Southerner becoming President was well organised, well supported and desperate.

We saw this with APC with the way Buhari and his Northern supremacist were happy and willing to destroy their own Party to stop Tinubu emerging the Party's candidate.

Beginning from their deliberate effort to divide and sabotage APC as far back as the needless and totally suicidal self-destructive actions that made the Party lose Edo State.

So much happened in the APC that showed some Northerners have no interest in being loyal to the integrity and efficacy of Political Parties.

Emefiele was even encouraged to attempt to be President in all the confusion and madness Buhari and his crew caused.

The incoherent joke Buhari made the APC saw so many buy Primaries ticket in a shambolic horsetrading charade that indicated factions in the APC were trying to outsmart themselves.

Hardly will you see Political Parties run this disracefully and shambolically anywhere else in the world, let along a ruling Party, but this was what Buhari and his Northern hawks caused because they could not accept that their time is over and that the strongest from the South had the right to contest and win.

PDP was no different with the arrogance and power-drunkeness of Atiku supported by the machinations of Tambuwal etal.

Long and short, the North was desperate to retain power directly, through a PDP Atiku win , or indirectly through a Southern stooge, like Emefiele, as the APC President.

It would have been a disaster and Nigeria will surely not survive a Northern Presidency since Buhari had totally destroyed the nation (security, economy, badly divided citizens etal) and another Northerner, because most mainly only play Conservative, illiberal, non-progressive and expedient politics, would see us finished.

I therefore thank Obi. I believe he saved Nigeria in his own way and God or Karma used him to ensure our nation qas not conceded into hands that would see her fall into the abyss when some had already taken her to the edge of the cliff.

The last 8 years reminded most Nigerians, painfully, that the North is not into developmental politics.
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I know you are a Tinubu man but thanks for getting my point.

Had the north succeeded in 2023, they would have seen different regions of the south as useful idiots and take turns to align with any region they choose at different point in time to retain power.

That’s a pattern that Obi stopped from even kickstarting. But some of your fellow Tinubu supporters that are shallow minded are too myopic to see and admit this.