raumdeuter:


Because he feels the urge to have sex like every male which is not a crime as long as he didn't force them and it was consensual

Actually, there is a power play there which makes it wrong. Just like a boss in a work place and a junior staffer. There is a power dynamic there which makes it difficult for the lower person to fully express their minds whether they truly want it or not for fear of ostracization and the knowledge of negative consequences if they turn down the approach.

GloriousGbola:


we all know what feminism is

we also know that what we have today is for want of a better word, third wave, my way or the high way feminism


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaHLd8de6nM

No mind Donj. He refused to accept that the feminism we have today is no longer what it was originated for.

Melvyn11:

A pastor should not be sleeping with his church girls especially the married ones. That's abuse of authority.

No pastor has authority over your towtow. If you decide to consensual have sex with a pastor it's not rape it's not a crime

There is nothing in the criminal code that says you cannot, if there is let me know

seankafor:
what of the pastors that do gets countless of these rape accusations?

You'd see a girl that has slept with a man for up to 5 times non stop.. when shit goes out of hand , shed start coming out with false rape accusations and everyone will be towing on same lane like zombies

Just like this Mendy case. Babe that was caught on video having consensual sex accuse him of rape. It was the first case the court throw out.

How many people who they accuse of rape have video evidence to exonerate themselves?

Emaprince:
No mind Donj. He refused to accept that the feminism we have today is no longer what it was originated for.

When feminism first started the men at that time said the same thing.

donjazzet:


Actually, there is a power play there which makes it wrong. Just like a boss in a work place and a junior staffer. There is a power dynamic there which makes it difficult for the lower person to fully express their minds whether they truly want it or not for fear of ostracization and the knowledge of negative consequences if they turn down the approach.

So therefore it should be called ra.pe?

donjazzet:


Actually, there is a power play there which makes it wrong. Just like a boss in a work place and a junior staffer. There is a power dynamic there which makes it difficult for the lower person to fully express their minds whether they truly want it or not for fear of ostracization and the knowledge of negative consequences if they turn down the approach.

I agree with this but it's still not rape if its consensual. It is abuse of power/office.

raumdeuter:


No pastor has authority over your towtow. If you decide to consensual have sex with a pastor it's not rape it's not a crime

There is nothing in the criminal code that says you cannot

Baba no pastor should sleep with his church members especially the married ones. Let's not even go to that direction to justify nonsense.

Melvyn11:

A pastor should not sleep with his church members. The werey will now climb purpit on Sunday forming holy.

It is morally and spiritually wrong.

Emaprince:
No mind Donj. He refused to accept that the feminism we have today is no longer what it was originated for.

Actually it's still the same. It's just that a lot of people like you seek to highlight voices of "extremists" as if they define the whole movement and use those extremists as a means to denigrate the entire idea.

You guys fail to ever highlight the nuances.

A plain example, once any entitled girl talks about how she expects a man to spend untop of her head. Even though this is antithetical to the core ideology of feminism, you guys will say that that is what feminism is. The privilege of men spending while female holds power. The persistent attempt to do damage to that word "feminism".

There are rational feminists and there are irrational feminists, what doesn't change is the ideology itself which seeks equal rights for women across board.

Melvyn11:

Baba no pastor should sleep with his church members especially the married ones. Let's not even go to that direction to justify nonsense.

That is your own opinion which you have a right to. It's not law and it's not part of the criminal code

You can say human should not do this and that, that's your own belief not law

larride:


I agree with this but it's still not rape if its consensual. It is abuse of power/office.

and she will simply tell you due the power dynamic she couldn't say no to his advances due to fear which can be interpreted as Rape. A Pastor should not even be doing such nonsense.

larride:


It is morally and spiritually wrong.

Moral and spiritual are not crimes

Eating pork is morally and spiritually wrong for Moslems yet its not a crime

Melvyn11:

Why is a pastor sleeping with church girls in the first place.

Is it a crime?

Itsrm:


Is it a crime?

Yes it's a crime both spiritually and legally. Some of you like to defend nonsense.

raumdeuter:


Moral and spiritual are not crimes

Eating pork is morally and spiritually wrong for Moslems yet its not a crime

Thank you

Itsrm:


Is it a crime?

Nobody is saying it's a crime. He made an analogy towards something else and people are pointing out that even if it's not a crime, that doesn't mean it's alright. There is still "wrongness" there.

Melvyn11:

and she will simply tell you due the power dynamic she couldn't say no to his advances due to fear which can be interpreted as Rape. A Pastor should not even be doing such nonsense.

There is no prosecution for anyone who sleeps with the other in a lower power dynamic. Bosses marry secretaries all the time

Seniors at work or school date juniors all the time

Melvyn11:

Yes it's a crime both spiritually and legally. Some of you like to defend nonsense.

Which law makes it a crime?

Melvyn11:

Yes it's a crime both spiritually and legally. Some of you like to defend nonsense.

Quote the law which makes it a crime in any constitution

Melvyn11:

Why is a pastor sleeping with church girls in the first place.

it goes both ways.

women are always drawn to men in position of authority or celebrity or success

monica lewinsky actively came on to bill clinton when she flashed her thong at him.

if they had not been busted then, today it is possible monica too would be accusing bill clinton of sexual assault

raumdeuter:


That is your own opinion which you have a right to. It's not law and it's not part of the criminal code

You can say human should not do this and that, that's your own belief not law

Some law says you can marry 12years old yet it still wrong and I will call it out. A pastor shouldn't try it and I stand by it.

donjazzet:


Nobody is saying it's a crime. He made an analogy towards something else and people are pointing out that even if it's not a crime, that doesn't mean it's alright. There is still "wrongness" there.

This is interesting coming from you especially.

Wrongness according to who? The bible you have spent pages on this forum discrediting?

GloriousGbola:


it goes both ways.

women are always drawn to men in position of authority or celebrity or success

monica lewinsky actively came on to bill clinton when she flashed her thing at him.

if they had not been busted then, today it is possible monica too would be accusing bill clinton of sexual assault

The only law Bill Clinton flouted was perjury not sleeping with an intern

raumdeuter:


There is no prosecution for anyone who sleeps with the other in a lower power dynamic. Bosses marry secretaries all the time

Seniors at work or school date juniors all the time

There's prosecution. The girl can simply say she couldn't say no due to his position so she went ahead against her will. That can count as rape.

Melvyn11:

Some law says you can marry 12years old yet it still wrong and I will call it out. A pastor shouldn't try it and I stand by it.

As long as it's not a crime in that jurisdiction it's not a crime simple

You can call it out all you want

People call out anything they want. Eating dog, eating fish, eating any type of animal, even wearing leather

As long as it's not a crime, all you get is your right to call out

Itsrm:


This is interesting coming from you especially.

Wrongness according to who? The bible you have spent pages on this forum discrediting?

Melvyn11:

There's prosecution. The girl can simply say she couldn't say no due to his position so she went ahead against her will. That can count as rape.

look at what is coming out of your mouth 😭

Itsrm:


Which law makes it a crime?

Mr man you can get are arrested for molestation and assault if you are reported to the police.

Melvyn11:

Mr man you can get are arrested for molestation and assault if you are reported to the police.

molestation say you have sex with person

seankafor:
look at what is coming out of your mouth 😭

Maybe you don't work in an office where there's power dynamic that's why you are typing all these ones.

Melvyn11:

Mr man you can get are arrested for molestation and assault if you are reported to the police.

A pastor sleeping with his church member is molestation and assault?