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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by favor914: 11:40pm On Jul 19, 2023
Smithkafors:
DSS is now Jamb….wonders!.
JAMB, or NYSC?
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by favor914: 11:42pm On Jul 19, 2023
Penguin2:
Isn’t it funny that the maker of the document (NYSC) has come to deny that the document originated from them while DSS is coming to defend the authenticity of the document. On what grounds?

When did DSS start issuing NYSC documents?

Does DSS have a database of previous Corpers?

Meanwhile, for the records…

The DSS official who came, came on his personal capacity and not on the mandate of the DSS. He claims he was personally subpoenaed instead of the subpoena being served on the DSS.

Again, his report had no stamp of the DSS nor that of the NYSC.

So the question is, what then authenticates his report?

Where are the documents that he obtained from NYSC that helped him arrive at his conclusion that Mbah’s NYSC certificate is authentic?

This is simply a criminal act.

Lotanna2
Typical Obidient mentality, you summon someone to court, he shows up, & you start wailing?
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by kokoA(m): 11:43pm On Jul 19, 2023
Lol.. DSS go soon defend Mmesoma jamb result grin The guy went to law school, was Chief of staff to the governor and at thesame time a youth corper.. He must be a multipurpose human being.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Penguin2: 11:44pm On Jul 19, 2023
Lotanna2:


No one is questioning her being an Amazon staff but as a neutral org and party,Amazon was supposed to come officially and cannot be said to be partisan.her employment letter was manufactured a day before she testified.all obi's so called evidences are.

Bamidele is directly testifying for apc and tinubu who are parties to the case.he is an interested and a direct partisan witness not a subpoena or neutral witness.miss ogar is coming under subpoena and subpoena witnesses are supposed to be non partisan,neutral and coming to testify generally for the interest of justice or for the benefit of the court not directly for a party.spot the difference
Are you aware that the courts have said that an illegally gotten evidence is admissible in court?

Well, if the courts have said above, it doesn’t matter the political inclination of a witness (subpoenaed or not) what matters is the veracity of her statements and documents.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Lotanna2: 11:56pm On Jul 19, 2023
Penguin2:

Are you aware that the courts have said that an illegally gotten evidence is admissible in court?

Well, if the courts have said above, it doesn’t matter the political inclination of a witness (subpoenaed or not) what matters is the veracity of her statements and documents.

I am aware of everything in legal unlike you.illegally gotten evidence is sometimes acceptable but at the discretion of the court.unfortunately,she didn't say she got it illegally.she lied about the evidence claiming she was the maker when she wasn't.the so called evidence tbh honest is not helpful to obi even if admitted

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Armaggedon: 12:12am On Jul 20, 2023
Lotanna2:


Bayelsa,crs,ebonyi,imo hated apc before.politics is beyond hate
so those states like APC now?
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Penguin2: 12:45am On Jul 20, 2023
Lotanna2:


I am aware of everything in legal unlike you.illegally gotten evidence is sometimes acceptable but at the discretion of the court.unfortunately,she didn't say she got it illegally.she lied about the evidence claiming she was the maker when she wasn't.the so called evidence tbh honest is not helpful to obi even if admitted
Why not leave the court to determine what is useful and what is not useful?

But remember that her reports showed that INEC didn’t suffer a glitch like they claimed. And that’s why she came with reports from six regions.

Then recall that when the INEC witness who is their deputy director of ICT, he was asked if INEC reported to Amazon that they suffered a glitch and he said no.

Now, who does that? You pay billions to ensure something works and helps your project, and on the day you needed it most, it failed. And you failed to lodge a complaint? Almost four months later?

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Lotanna2: 12:54am On Jul 20, 2023
Armaggedon:
so those states like APC now?

To an extend.the motive is to capture the states first

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Lotanna2: 1:02am On Jul 20, 2023
Penguin2:

Why not leave the court to determine what is useful and what is not useful?

But remember that her reports showed that INEC didn’t suffer a glitch like they claimed. And that’s why she came with reports from six regions.

Then recall that when the INEC witness who is their deputy director of ICT, he was asked if INEC reported to Amazon that they suffered a glitch and he said no.

Now, who does that? You pay billions to ensure something works and helps your project, and on the day you needed it most, it failed. And you failed to lodge a complaint? Almost four months later?


I am only trying to prepare your mind and that of others for the looming loss in advance so that you won't accuse the judiciary of being compromised.
Her reports are general health reports,they are not specific or indepth and particular about any particular server.she herself claimed it is possible that inec had a glitch without AWS knowing and she can only know that if she had access to inec local servers.now,the inec ict director brought incontrovertible evidence of them suffering glitches and network issues on that day which was unchallenged.whether they reported it or not is irrelevant,obi half evidence was rebutted as usual.

As an aside,the 18000 blurred results is of no moment as in one of the copies where prof ofoedu claimed that there was overvoting in degema rivers,the hard copy showed there was no overvoting.obi is back to square one

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Armaggedon: 6:11am On Jul 20, 2023
Lotanna2:


To an extend.the motive is to capture the states first
To an extent is not an answer.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Ikaeniyan0: 6:19am On Jul 20, 2023
Penguin2:
Isn’t it funny that the maker of the document (NYSC) has come to deny that the document originated from them while DSS is coming to defend the authenticity of the document. On what grounds?

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I hope you are not part of the people who supported mmesoma even after jamb came out to claim her result is fake.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Cantonese: 6:30am On Jul 20, 2023
Penguin2:
Isn’t it funny that the maker of the document (NYSC) has come to deny that the document originated from them while DSS is coming to defend the authenticity of the document. On what grounds?

When did DSS start issuing NYSC documents?

Does DSS have a database of previous Corpers?

Meanwhile, for the records…

The DSS official who came, came on his personal capacity and not on the mandate of the DSS. He claims he was personally subpoenaed instead of the subpoena being served on the DSS.

Again, his report had no stamp of the DSS nor that of the NYSC.

So the question is, what then authenticates his report?

Where are the documents that he obtained from NYSC that helped him arrive at his conclusion that Mbah’s NYSC certificate is authentic?

This is simply a criminal act.

Lotanna2

A simple investigation will prove to all that money exchanged hands.

How DSS became the issuer of NYSC documents beggars belief. Politicians go all length to support their dubious claims.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Penguin2: 10:14am On Jul 20, 2023
Lotanna2:


I am only trying to prepare your mind and that of others for the looming loss in advance so that you won't accuse the judiciary of being compromised.
Her reports are general health reports,they are not specific or indepth and particular about any particular server.she herself claimed it is possible that inec had a glitch without AWS knowing and she can only know that if she had access to inec local servers.now,the inec ict director brought incontrovertible evidence of them suffering glitches and network issues on that day which was unchallenged.whether they reported it or not is irrelevant,obi half evidence was rebutted as usual.

As an aside,the 18000 blurred results is of no moment as in one of the copies where prof ofoedu claimed that there was overvoting in degema rivers,the hard copy showed there was no overvoting.obi is back to square one

Lol!

Imagine you claim that your wife was murdered in your home by assailants.

3 months later we discovered that you did not report this claim to either your local vigilante nor the police whose responsibility it is to protect you and your wife but went ahead to bury her.

We asked you for evidence and you showed us a broken window as prove that it was indeed assailants that murdered your wife.

Tell me why we should take you seriously.

What if you killed your wife and are claiming she was murdered by assailants?

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Penguin2: 10:19am On Jul 20, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
I hope you are not part of the people who supported mmesoma even after jamb came out to claim her result is fake.
I was.

I hope you are not one of those who are supporting Tinubu?
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Lotanna2: 10:41am On Jul 20, 2023
Penguin2:


Lol!

Imagine you claim that your wife was murdered in your home by assailants.

3 months later we discovered that you did not report this claim to either your local vigilante nor the police whose responsibility it is to protect you and your wife but went ahead to bury her.

We asked you for evidence and you showed us a broken window as prove that it was indeed assailants that murdered your wife.

Tell me why we should take you seriously.

What if you killed your wife and are claiming she was murdered by assailants?

Why do you find it difficult comprehending simple issues? Perhaps you do but refuse to give way to superior reasoning,you rather allow emotions.assertuons, allegations and mere speculations and theories do not work in court but hard,cold evidences which obi does not half.

Assuming that there was actually no glitch,obi must show how it substantially affected the conduct of election,the numbers of votes affected.if it affected online transmission,then it didn't affect manual transmission and manual copies.obi simply went to court to embarrass the govt and inec.

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by reiddecuti: 10:45am On Jul 20, 2023
DSS seems to swear oat of allegiance to whom ever that is elected either through crooks or straight, pook-nosing where they're not supposed all to justify the taskpayers money being wasted on them.

DSS is a shadow of itself.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Ikaeniyan0: 10:49am On Jul 20, 2023
Penguin2:

I was.

Isn’t it funny that you didn't believe the maker of the document (JAMB) when they came out with the real result of mmesoma

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Penguin2: 11:21am On Jul 20, 2023
Lotanna2:


Why do you find it difficult comprehending simple issues? Perhaps you do but refuse to give way to superior reasoning,you rather allow emotions.assertuons, allegations and mere speculations and theories do not work in court but hard,cold evidences which obi does not half.

Assuming that there was actually no glitch,obi must show how it substantially affected the conduct of election,the numbers of votes affected.if it affected online transmission,then it didn't affect manual transmission and manual copies.obi simply went to court to embarrass the govt and inec.

Good you accept that the govt and INEC is being embarrassed which is what they deserve.

But it’s funny you accuse me of being emotional because I tried to bring things into broader perspective so that you can properly grasp it since your cognitive faculties seemed to be failing you.

Somebody is in charge of your security. Now your security was breached (or so you claim) and you couldn’t question or even report to him?

Is that the standard procedure?
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Penguin2: 11:22am On Jul 20, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
Isn’t it funny that you didn't believe the maker of the document (JAMB) when they came out with the real result of mmesoma
Why are you supporting Tinubu?
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by plaindealer: 11:22am On Jul 20, 2023
grin

Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Ikaeniyan0: 11:26am On Jul 20, 2023
Penguin2:

Why are you supporting Tinubu?
Because he performed better than Obi as a Governor.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Penguin2: 11:28am On Jul 20, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
Because he performed better than Obi as a Governor.
And his forged documents?

Or are there no Jambites that Mmesoma performed better than even by her real score?

Why are you not also supporting Mmesoma if performance is your criteria and not the morality of her action?
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Lotanna2: 11:31am On Jul 20, 2023
Penguin2:


Good you accept that the govt and INEC is being embarrassed which is what they deserve.

But it’s funny you accuse me of being emotional because I tried to bring things into broader perspective so that you can properly grasp it since your cognitive faculties seemed to be failing you.

Somebody is in charge of your security. Now your security was breached (or so you claim) and you couldn’t question or even report to him?

Is that the standard procedure?

If your cognitive capacity was full capacity,you would have recognized and accepted that obi has failed woefully.the tribunal jurisdiction is narrow,any broader perspective you have should be taken to a civil court commonsensically.learm from edeoga and try again in 2031.

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Ikaeniyan0: 11:33am On Jul 20, 2023
Penguin2:

And his forged documents?

Or are there no Jambites that Mmesoma performed better than even by her real score?

Why are you not also supporting Mmesoma if performance is your criteria and not the morality of her action?
Which document did Tinubu forge? Tell me

Mmesoma lied that she has the highest score in jamb, jamb came out and told her her real result, but she came out and claim Jamb lied about her score... I can never support such a person. She's lucky she only got her result withdrawn and suspended from taken part in jamb exam for 3 years

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Penguin2: 12:26pm On Jul 20, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
Which document did Tinubu forge? Tell me

Mmesoma lied that she has the highest score in jamb, jamb came out and told her her real result, but she came out and claim Jamb lied about her score... I can never support such a person. She's lucky she only got her result withdrawn and suspended from taken part in jamb exam for 3 years
She learnt from Tinubu.

Tinubu is her role model.

She’s just a child who thought doing things the Tinubu way was the right way.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Penguin2: 12:31pm On Jul 20, 2023
Lotanna2:


If your cognitive capacity was full capacity,you would have recognized and accepted that obi has failed woefully.the tribunal jurisdiction is narrow,any broader perspective you have should be taken to a civil court commonsensically.learm from edeoga and try again in 2031.
Any attempt to prepare ground for the Judiciary to deliver kangaroo judgment will never work. Go and tell your paymasters that.

If INEC encountered glitches in all sincerity, why did they not report to AWS who hosts their website almost four months after the election.

Only a criminal who never set out for transparency from the very start will do that.

INEC is a criminal organization that intentionally rigged the 2023 presidential election for Tinubu.

No amount of rationalization, rhetorics or twisting of narratives will change this reality that the entire world knows.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Ikaeniyan0: 1:01pm On Jul 20, 2023
Penguin2:

She learnt from Tinubu.

Tinubu is her role model.

She’s just a child who thought doing things the Tinubu way was the right way.
You are just saying nonsense to make yourself feel good

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Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by fergie001: 8:24pm On Jul 20, 2023
Lotanna2:
So onyechi ikpeazu that is representing obi at pepc is mbah's lawyer.
Yes nah, he also represents APC in Adebutu v Abiodun whilst Olanipekun is representing PDP in Enugu.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Lotanna2: 8:46pm On Jul 20, 2023
fergie001:

Yes nah, he also represents APC in Adebutu v Abiodun whilst Olanipekun is representing PDP in Enugu.

No,you are getting it wrong na.if ikpeazu is representing mba,wole can't represent them too na.
Sam onuigbo has been compensat nedc.
Ben kalu has a tough case at tribunal.his name has discrepancies
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by fergie001: 9:26pm On Jul 20, 2023
Lotanna2:
No,you are getting it wrong na.if ikpeazu is representing mba,wole can't represent them too na.
I must have mixed it up.

Sam onuigbo has been compensat nedc.
Ben kalu has a tough case at tribunal.his name has discrepancies
Good for Onuigbo........

Kalu will scale through but the fear is exactly what happened at Imo North Senate in 2015.... The election could be nullified.
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by Lotanna2: 9:33pm On Jul 20, 2023
fergie001:

I must have mixed it up.


Good for Onuigbo........

Kalu will scale through but the fear is exactly what happened at Imo North Senate in 2015.... The election could be nullified.

Ben with obi out of the pix will easily win bende.if he loses,miriam onuoha will replace him.shes been so active in the house,making contributions everyday.ben looks far younger than his age,he looks 30+he has been chairing proceedings in the house lately..
It seems ministerial screening will start on tuesday
Re: Governor Mbah Didn't Forge His Nysc-dss Report by fergie001: 9:45pm On Jul 20, 2023
Lotanna2:
Ben with obi out of the pix will easily win bende.if he loses,miriam onuoha will replace him.shes been so active in the house,making contributions everyday.ben looks far younger than his age,he looks 30+he has been chairing proceedings in the house lately..
It seems ministerial screening will start on tuesday
Well, with the fuel price hike and apparent suffering in the land, it will not be easy for him.

Again, it doesn't look like OUK is still with him... Unless he aligns with Otti, it will be difficult.

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